Thank you for this data. I'm going to be using it on my Race Haven Podcast. Race Haven is solution focused dialogue about race relations in America.

Thank you so much for this. Really good example for how to teach statistics using real data.

Using your logic men are killed at an alarming rate compared to their proportion of the population(95% of victims vs about 49% of population). Where is the outcry? You'll then point out I am using the wrong denominator because men commit more crime, are more violent, and therefore are more likely to be confronted by police. Possible you got the other denominator incorrect? When is the appropriate denominator. It sure isn't percent of the general population.

I would be interested to see someone drill a little deeper into this dataset. In particular I think it would be worthwhile to look racial makeup of victims vs total population within a defined geographic location ie. City or neighborhood where the killing took place. The stats above would be more relevant if racial makeup was a normally distributed population across the nation. It seems to me that narrowing our area of interest (within reason) would remove some potential bias from the analysis.

What is the breakdown of number of crimes REPORTED in black, white, hispanic etc neighborhoods.

THANK YOU! The next time someone says that African Americans are the only innocent ones getting gunned down by police I'll be sure to show them this!

I found this because in the wake of the killing of Philando Castile, somebody shared it on Facebook with the caption "Data doesn't lie." Data doesn't "lie" but it can easily be misinterpreted. I'm not a sociologist, statistician, or PhD, but I have some comments to offer.

The author's conclusion, based on the data, is "This data further solidifies the concerns and demands of the Black Lives Matters movement; there is a pattern of police using deadly force disproportionally on blacks that needs to be addressed by policy makers and police departments across the nation."

But that is an interpretation superimposed on the data; the data doesn't explicity say that, and is actually insufficient to support that claim. (Note that I am not saying the claim is false, only that the data as presented isn't enough to prove it.)

An equally valid interpretation, according to the author's methodology, is that "there is a pattern of police using deadly force disproportionally on MALES that needs to be addressed by policy makers and police departments across the nation". After all, the data show that "Most, 95.2%, of those killed by police in 2015 were men. The pie chart below shows that only 4.8% of the victims identified as anything other than male." That is a far greater disproportion than the racial breakdown.

So what gives? Obviously there must be some additional factor(s) not used in the correlation of the data. The author gives a hat tip to it. But he doesn't factor it in before reaching a conclusion. Among those killed by police - of any race, of any age, by any means - what were the circumstances? Was it during the commission or investigation of a crime? Did the victim resist? Did the officer happen upon the victim, or was he responding to a complaint? Was it sunny and clear, or dark of night? What was the race of the officer?

In these emotionally-charged times, please do not think I am trying to excuse unwarranted killings by police; they should be investigated and justice should be served. But faulty analysis - especially when presented as self-evident "data" - doesn't help the situation, it can only lead to the wrong solutions.

Flawed. You need to show the crime rate in each category.

So, you are comparing people killed by cops in 2015 to population census data from 2014. Why not compare data from the same year? Are you sure there are more hispanic/latin americans than blacks in the US? I want to see the raw numbers, not just race/ethnicity proportions (i.e. percentages) of US population.

This data is meaningless without including statistics to address the percentage of each race committing crimes. If a particular race is

I looked at the article, but did not read the whole thing. Did I miss the stats on the percentage of violent crime committed by each of the listed ethnic groups compared to their percentage of the population?

now, show data about crime rate by race...you will get an answer for why the percentage is so high for black deaths...they simply cause more crime.

Nice work.

Why are you comparing The Guardian's data to general demographics instead of those who have been approached by the police?

There are statistics on a vast array of scenarios here, but I was curious as to whether statistics are kept concerning the killing of police by people of different ethnic backgrounds. Could you steer me in the right direction?

Certain racial groups are charged with more crimes by our justice system and have frequent police encounters. How does this not weigh into this "exhaustive" study.

Unless, I'm missing something, if the object is to prove whether race matters in a lethal encounter with the police, the important data point is not the percentage of each ethnic/racial group in the the total population, but their representation in encounters with the police. That is, how many Whites, Blacks, Hispanics, etc. were stopped by police and not killed. I doubt that data is easy to come by. I'm pretty sure blacks have proportionally more encounters with police than Whites in the US (which may well indicate structural and direct racism among other factors), so this may account for at least some of the disproportion with respect to the total US population. No?

I disagree with the author's implication that the differing shooting rates is largely a result of police racial bias (as claimed by Black Lives Matter). Blacks, due to socio-economic reasons, have much higher rates of police interaction, due to the high crime areas so many find themselves living. (stemming from destructive gov programs IMO). This much higher interaction will lead to higher rates of violent encounters that result in police use of force. The perception of police oppression can further be expected to create a more hostile environment and result in further escalation of resistance. In fact if you consider arrest and incarceration rates by race, you would expect the death rate among blacks to be much higher.
Note again that nearly twice as many whites were killed as blacks.

By limiting the data to race relative to percentage of population, this study ignores factors that may lead to quite different conclusions. The study shows that, "compared to their portion of the overall population, blacks are disproportionally the victims of lethal force by law enforcement officers, even when they are unarmed." What if the population figures were limited to the areas where most killings take place? If most law enforcement killings take place in inner cities and the population there is predominately black, then this might account for the increased percentage of black deaths.

What about population percentages relative to crimes? Are there more police shootings in areas with very high crime? Are blacks disproportionately represented in high crime areas, and therefore more likely to be victims of those shootings? And what percentage of the black killings were by black officers (and vice versa)?

By focusing solely on race versus general population, this study implies that police shootings are racially motivated. If other factors are considered a different picture may be presented. And if a distorted or incorrect cause for these killings is reached and accepted by the public and those in government, steps that are taken to correct this problem will not only be ineffective, they may worsen the problem.

Something has to be done, but basing policy and law on incomplete and potentially incorrect studies is not going to solve anything. The authors of this study should be looking at all the potential possibilities, rather than settling for the easy one.

I would hope that truth was more important.

Now, please, do a study on race and crime. The two go hand in hand. It is clear blacks are disproportionately the victims of lethal force but someone needs to answer the question of WHY. The answer is far more complicated than racism. The answer lies somewhere in a muddled concoction of history, fading racism, poverty, and crime. Before we can EFFECTIVELY address and resolve the problem, we as a nation need to understand the cause.

Thanks for sharing this disturbing (but important) analysis), Todd. I had a read a similar piece recently (sorry, can no longer locate) that suggested the underlying racism if our society was more to blame (people of color were more likely to be living in high-crime areas, for example) then racism of police. Thoughts?

Where in your article did you mention that blacks comment a higher disproportionate amount of violent crime? Does that not explain why the police are many more times likely to confront Blacks than whites?

Wouldn't it be more accurate to compare the percentage killed against the number of interactions with police instead of overall population? The general population totals include ages 0->100, disabled or otherwise incapacitated, etc. A large portion of the population does not interact with law enforcement at all or only in situations of a benign nature. I believe it would be more accurate to look at the numbers involving situations where police became involved due to the probability of laws being broken, threats of violence, etc. What is the percentage of police involved situations that turn violent and/or deadly? What about the race of the officers, not just the suspects involved? These are the numbers that would truly reflect a problem with race by law enforcement.

Excellent article. Being in a technical field we always look to root causes to slice problems. I would expect Dr. Beer to dig deeper in to the causes of disparity found by race and not simply assume racism as the cause. Compare these numbers against the race of police officers involved; Perhaps a review of crime statistics by race as published by the FBI and marry the 2 data sources to build evidence based hypothesis before jumping to a conclusion. I have done this and have a hypothesis that police are not 'racist' because of society but because of personal experience on the job and have been conditioned subconsciously to have biases tied to the offenders race. Such that race becomes an intermediate marker as to the causal. In the high level data this presents itself as apparent racism by police , regardless of the race of the officer. Police have a very difficult role and should be given training to help individualize thier tactical response. On the other hand addresses causes of crime in specific populations at a root cause level would address the other side of this issue. Oversimplification doesn't help solve the issue.
Regards,

"If we lived in a society where one’s race had no impact, then we would expect to see the portion of each racial/ethnic group killed by police equal to that of the portion in the general population. "
The thesis is flawed. There are two critical stats that are missing in order for the thesis to hold:
1) the proportional rate of crime per group (more crime = more run ins with police)
2) the race of the shooting police officer.
The authors given data processing the old expression, "there are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies and statistics.

As so many have said in replies, although not as directly as I will, this analysis of the data is misleading and is confounding our understanding of the situation. As a result, it is making everything worse. To repeat a point that was stated by a few, the prevalence of males in the list of "victims," by this same simple logic, would "prove" that the police hate men. The fact that the data cannot be normalized by several important but unrecorded factors is not justification for ignoring these factors. The author unwittingly escalates matters by encouraging all people of color to identify with violent criminals who confront police. This simple treatment combines with anecdotes of truly poor judgment by police to reaffirm a preconception that makes no sense: police everywhere hate black people.

Would be good if you also added the perspective from a police officer. A Police Officer makes up 806k of the population and had 130 death while on the job. It certainaly is another perspective.

It only makes sense to use the number of interactions with police as the denominator in this case, IF you assume that would be an unbiased sample. Which it's not. Profiling begins far before a person is killed. Profiling is part of the reason that blacks are killed at higher rates - because law enforcement believes that they are more dangerous from the start.

By the way, this is also the reason that men are killed more often than women. Law enforcement officers think men are more dangerous from the start - similar to the way they think black people are more dangerous. Obviously there's a bias there too. That doesn't invalidate the original claim - it's a separate but related issue.

So many of the responses above show that people still want to believe that those who were shot deserved it. In short, their presupposition, while accusing the article of having an underlying bias (which I think it does) is that more blacks are shot because more blacks (per percentage of the population) are involved in crimes and violence. I think we still really, really want to excuse a systematic problem because it doesn't line up with our view of what America is about. This is called denial. I think (I work in mental health) that there is such a thing as an addiction to power (think domestic violence), and that too many people are drawn to law enforcement with its guns and power, who have this addiction. The over use power because the use of power is a drug. This group needs to be weeded out. If they are not, they endanger all the good people who are part of the police community. And they endanger all of us. I think the disparity is significant. Some deviation in % can be explained away, but when the rate is double? However the most startling statistic is simply the raw number of American's killed by those charge to serve and protect. Open carry is making this number rise (a policeman will shoot quick with less provocation if the other has a gun, legally or not). But we must address the number of people killed, white, black, asian, hispanic...all

The article does not take in to account that crime rates affect police

Given the history of the US I'm sure there is racial bias in the way the law is enforced. But comparing deaths vs. % of general general population is simply insufficient to draw firm conclusions about racial bias. What about other contributing factors to the deaths? How many attempted arrests involved a struggle? How many deaths were related to reports of violence by the suspect? How many acts of violence against police are committed by each race? It's a complex topic, but to really figure out solutions and prevent people from dismissing the data, you have to conduct a more thorough analysis.

I see many are trying to edge in the criminality by race. I guess then, maybe it will go into educational and economical disparities and inequalities since we're still seeking to vilify blacks on the basis of supposed higher criminality. Nice try. Amass ALL the data since we got off the boats in stolen America and you'll still come out having to swallow the pill you run from.

Thank you for putting together this page, super comprehensive and much-needed. The only tweak I would make is to the column in the first table labeled "percentage of THOSE killed by police." It's not wrong, but it could be more clear to distinguish "those" since it can construed as "the percentage of people of ___ race that were killed by police with respect to the total number of people killed by police." -Or- "the percentage of ___ race that were killed by police." Obviously it's the first and not the latter because 50.1% of all white people weren't killed by police...However, the second is an interesting statistic as well that I was looking for, specifically, and the title of that column in that chart threw me off upon first glance...a minor critique for an otherwise excellent statistical study.

I must beg to differ with the professor. His data is skewed.
Where his numbers are flawed is he is comparing incidents with the general population. He fails to understand it must relate to the criminal population in contact with the police.
Until they do that these numbers will be flawed.

Where in your article did you mention that blacks comment a higher disproportionate amount of violent crime? Does that not explain why the police are many more times likely to confront Blacks than whites?

Where in your article did you mention that blacks comment a higher disproportionate amount of violent crime? Does that not explain why the police are many more times likely to confront Blacks than whites?

Where in your article did you mention that blacks comment a higher disproportionate amount of violent crime? Does that not explain why the police are many more times likely to confront Blacks than whites?

– FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.
More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.
– FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.
– FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.

It would great to see this data sorted by City/State/Region. In my area you do not hear of the Police killing any unarmed people and we do have several cities with poverty and large pubic housing complexes.

How many Police forces do things the right way and are there clusters of areas where excess force is used?

Rachele: Capitalizing the word "fact" doesn't make the information factual. None of the statements are accurate. It looks like you blended an argument you've heard about disproportionality, with the actual commission of crimes. The major issue is inequities in sentencing and the use of plea deals with the most vulnerable communities in the US. For actual facts, see Michelle Alexander's The New Jim Crow, she did really excellent work explaining these distinctions, and also several chapters of Bryan Stevenson's Just Mercy discuss disproportionate sentencing in great detail.

Okay blacks are 12-13% of the population but are responsible for 50% of all crime, so they do not get killed at a disproportionate rate of those who are white!

Certain racial groups are profile but thats profile I dont think the numbers are right

I find no flaw with your numbers, BUT, I just want to ask, when using this per capita analysis to make the comparison "fair", how come I never see it used to show why, out of homicides committed every year, ( forgive my lack of actual numbers ) that very similar numbers exist for the murders committed/ I believe it was 2015 that I had read those figures, and it was around 2,700 murders committed by BOTH races, they were within a few hundred of each other, and only 189 blacks were killed by whites, and 400 or so whites were killed by blacks, but why such a high number of murders by blacks on blacks "per capita"? They are such a small portion of the population, then why do they commit as many murders as whites?

Who commits the most Crime? Allocation of LE resources suggest the greater LE representation should be in areas where the most crime is committed. Second the greater threat due to crime. Lastly, politically sensitive areas. Blacks represent the smaller minority of unarmed lethal force however, they represent the largest demographic of criminal expectation. Therefore it is more likely that an LE officer will expect a black to engage in crime, even deadly crime in an area known for crime and would be justifiably so. This is rational not emotional. Race should not be a factor in unarmed deaths of bystanders as they were not the intended target

First I dislike the article quoting second hand statistics. Secondly the more interaction any racial group has with law enforcement the greater likelihood of a shooting incident occurring. The data and any conclusions need to reflect that.

Blacks are 13.2% of the population according to the article but nowhere in the article did they shoe DOJ figures showing that blacks commit more than 50% of homicides in US as well as a disproportionately larger number of violent crimes. They are also often poor and do more likely to commit crimes involving violence like drugs, mugging sand murder. In my life I have been mugged three times - twice by blacks and once by Hispanics - no whites. This goes a long way to explaining the increases interaction with police and more violent interactions.

Nationwide, the Black Homicide Offender Rate soared under Barack Obama from 10.8 to 12.4 murders per 100,000.

That makes the black murder rate 9-times HIGHER than "white America".

In sewers like Baltimore and St. Louis, the murder rate is 40-times HIGHER than "white America".

Here is what everyone is missing.
1) in every chart more whites were killed by police. (period)
If more whites were killed how does that make blacks the most killed of everyone?
2) everyone is saying that the crimes committed by blacks is way higher than that of whites.
So black people have more run ins with the police.

NOW CHECK THIS OUT!! I
f white people have less run ins with the police and more whites are killed than blacks.
That means that whites are more likely to be killed not blacks.
Because if blacks say (for example) have twice as many run ins with police and have fewer deaths than whites.
The run in to death ratio is higher for whites.
It doesn't matter what bias you have if one group has more dead than the other the one with the most dead is the one with the most dead.
Simple as that!!
if I have a million dollars and you have one hundred. even if I have more than triple the amount of people in my family than you.
I still have more money than you.
and it doesn't matter if you see your family more often than I do.
if I have more I have more.
so more dead in one group does not ever make the group with less dead have more dead.
578 white people killed and 301 black people killed=779 people (humans)
that were basically murdered by police.

that is the issue!!
we wont get nothing solved if instead of addressing the fact that humans are being killed
we want to argue over who is getting killed the most
then we stay stuck trying to figure that out instead of coming together and finding a solution to how we prevent humans from being killed by police unnecessarily.
I think it is by design that these articles are written
because if you notice they first separate us by race
then they separate us by political party.
cause in this article there are articles saying the conservative logic on this issue and liberal this and conservative that.
it's all done to keep us chasing our tails and arguing over race and political party and never addressing the loss of human life.

it's called divide and conquer.
we need to unite and win or we will be arguing over what race gets killed more for another 10 years.
lets just stop the unnecessary killing of unarmed humans.
because if we just focus on that then less of every race will be killed
it only makes sense if we stop the killing less of every race will be killed.
the way I see it if 1,000 white people get killed and only 1 black person it is still 1,001 humans that should not have been killed and it doesn't matter who lost the most to the ones who lost someone they loved.
no unarmed human regardless of any other factor should be met with deadly force by a firearm. (unless the person is in the process of killing someone with their bear hands)
there's only one race and it's called human.

Kind of interesting how nobody is addressing that elephant in the room ... that 'blacks' account for 27% of the victims .. but only account for 13% of the population ...
So .. why do blacks account for such a large amount of the country's crime?

Maybe the fact that 133 blacks shot other blacks LAST WEEK in an 8 square mile area of Chi can answer some of these questions.

Go back to police carrying only night sticks.

Inner city american blacks are just dumb nasty animals, cant ignore what I see in documentaries on america, they dont hide it. Every dead one of them is another teenaged girl safe from rape, and teen boy safe from getting violently robbed. Think on that, chumps

This "report" is itself clearly biased. For example, when figures of those killed who were unarmed are given, the writer says the blacks and Hispanics were "completely unarmed." When unarmed whites are mention, the writer simply called them "unarmed" and omitted the adverb "completely." Is there another definition of unarmed than unarmed. Were the blacks and Hispanics more unarmed than the unarmed whites? It's a simple glaring inconsistency in the "facts" of this racist article.

Gunfight at the O.K. Corral:

The Gunfight at the O.K. Corral was a 30-second shootout between lawmen and members of a loosely organized group of outlaws called the Cowboys that took place at about 3:00 p.m. on Wednesday, October 26, 1881, in Tombstone, Arizona Territory. Wikipedia

Location: Tombstone, Arizona Territory, United States
Date: October 26, 1881
Total number of deaths: 3
Result: Virgil and Morgan wounded, Holliday grazed; Tom and Frank McLaury and Billy Clanton killed
Participants: Virgil Earp, Morgan Earp, Ike Clanton, Tom McLaury, Frank McLaury, Billy Clanton, Billy Claiborne

This Police Shooting in Arizona 1881 was understood when they fought against armed outlaws resisting arrest.

But, the 4th Amendment of the United States Constitution concerning probable cause being required for search and seizure is too often ignored by Law Enforcement Officers. The Courts have not examined this fairly and justly on many occasions. This will result in more protests by the Community and less cooperation by the Public when Law Enforcement need help to solve crimes.

Police Shooting of unarmed civilians is illegal. They should pull-out a Notebook and Pen and question the person about their location and activity.

Issue respectful and courteous advice on where the person can receive Social or Financial help in the community.

If illegal activity has occurred, than issue a Traffic Ticket to appear in Court or call a Supervisor for assistance.

Exception, when a violent crime is in progress like a Bank Robbery, Store Robbery, Illegal Drug Sale, Attempted Rape or Sexual Assault or Sex Trade, Kidnapping, School Shooting, Gang Fight, etc...

Conclusion, in the 1960's in New York City there was a wonderful program called the Police Athletic League (PAL). Helping kids with different sports during the hot summer and issue many colorful team shirts for Basketball, Baseball, Football, Track and Field events. They would have Police volunteers organize teams in each neighborhood to play games and the winning teams receive trophies / medals. Police, Sherriff and Marshals across the United States are now experiencing negative Public Relations reports and this is not good for our country.

The number one cause of police shootings is not racism. It has nothing to do with the color of one's skin at all in fact. It has nothing to do with percentages of race within the population, percentages of whose committing more crime. It has to do with one simple thing: compliance, or lack thereof. If you are compliant with a PO's commands 99% of the time you will walk away; you may go to jail or get a ticket, but you will walk away. The other 1% accounts for actually bad cops, of which there are fewer than we would like to believe for some odd reason.

It is pertinent to look at the correlation of number of crimes committed/shot by police/%population. Blacks are 13% of the population committing 62% of the crime with 25% of total shot by police vs. whites that are 63% of the population committing 28% of the crime and yet are still 58% of those shot by police. The statistic I couldn't find was the actual % of blacks shot by police vs. the total number of crimes committed by blacks. Maybe I just missed it but I doubt that it's anywhere near 25% of all blacks charged with a crime anymore than 58% of all white people committing a crime are shot by police. Maybe all of the wannabe thugs should stay out of those situations by NOT COMMITTING A CRIME! Just a thought.

Wow this was so educational for me , not the article because I found it bias , but the comments I learned so much . Thank you for so many insights.

Main point I see that is flawed. The author needs to go down and do some leathal force training, especially edged weapon training. He states cops should only use deadly force when encountering someone with a gun. An edged weapon is as or more dangerous than a firearm. The perp can conceal it better even when deployed. A subject with an edged weapon in hand standing at a distance of 25 feet from a cop can close that distance in under 3 sec. so a cop has to draw his weapon from a triple retention holster and try and get a shot off. Yes many hours by officers train for that. But you still have to be lucky.

Your conclusion is flawed, the true measure cannot be determined by using absolute numbers(total population percentages). The true measure comes from how many police encounters by race. Not every citizen of each race has encounters with police. If the total encounters are equal or very similar then whites are more likely to be shot. Last I checked on the fbi database whites and blacks commit roughly the same amount of crimes while other non whites commit fewer, and the same for police encounters. 1502 people shot in the last fiscal year and over 700 were white over 300 black over 300 other non whites. If whites and blacks have same amount of police encounters whites are 2x more likely to be shot during an encounter with the police, if the same amount of other non whites are shot as blacks they too are more likely to be shot. See, this is how math actually works. You have to plug in all the information, you cant just leave stuff out. We should not be protesting police brutality against one race, we should be protesting it for all citizens. Protesting anything to increase the quality of life for only your race is true racism. Think about that, and wake up America. May all citizens of this nation come together and fight against all the true oppressers who constantly create division amongst us all. Stop letting the media whether right wing or left wing dictate what you think and believe. This country was in a decent place before the media got so heavily involved in politics, and started voicing their own opinions to the public in an effort to manipulate the young minds of Americans. What a sad time we live in right now in America. 10 years ago the idea of socialism wasn't accepted on any side of the political fence, now we have people trying to push it down our throats. I could care less if it's Democrat or Republican, all politicians are crooks, and for the few that aren't, gone it some time and they will be. But socialism????? Really????? Might as well move to Cuba, Russia, China, Korea, etc..... I know people will respond with those places have communist governments, but know this. Communism starts at socialism. If socialism takes hold, eventually everything will fall under government rule. That means say good bye to the private sector of everything.

"unarmed" doesn't mean they don't pose an imminent danger to the police. A scuffle with an "unarmed" civilian could very well end up with a police officer being shot with his own weapon. This article is missing so many variables that it renders it almost invalid.

In some cases it doesn't appear that the stats mentioned in the text match the figures displayed. For example, figure 2 indicates 11 unarmed blacks were killed in 2018 by June. The last sentence in the 3rd para of the text below figure 2 states that "49 blacks were killed by June 2018 that had no gun". Such mismatching stats lead to confusion and a question about the accuracy and credibility of the data.

Also not clarified is the distinction of unarmed blacks killed by police is how many were by white police vs non white police. I suspect a fair number of unarmed blacks are killed by black police distorting the white-on-black race bias portrayed in the media.

To make any sense you have to compare the number of blacks killed compared to the number of arrests, confrontations or crimes committed, NOT to the percentage of the population!!!! Where the hell did you study logic????

Men are killed at much higher rates than women. Does that mean police are also sexist? If not, why not? Police have been killed or seriously injured by "unarmed" suspects. So there are situations when killing an unarmed suspect is justified as self defense.

I think that there are way too many (probably white) people trying to prove this wrong by saying that black people have done things to deserve this disproportionate and discriminatory over policing of minorities found within our American justice system. They wan to ask but what about the crime rate and claim blacks are arrested in their areas because of high crime rates. If they were honest and not trying to push fourth their agenda of racial bias there are other data sets for them to demand as well. If you want to add the amount of crimes committed cool but don't forget to also research the fact that blacks have been found to be falsely accused of crimes 7x more than whites when dna evidence was presented.

You who want to challenge this data in this way but not also include the false accusation data are guilty of trying to push forward a false narrative against African Americans. You only want to demand data on the crime rate but ignore the level of injustice that the same legal system has dished out as if the crime rate statistics from a system that over polices black people in the first place is somehow going to be reliable.

Do a crime rate and false accusation rate test together, and do not just try to use the crime rate to excuse racial discrimination that is rampant in our police system.

Which was the point of the whole article that went over MANY peoples heads from what I'm reading in this comment section. I never thought I'd have to endure the hive mind of stupid that I just witnessed and thanks to them I am sure that I have cancer now. Thanks a lot!

Sure there is racism in the world!but i think alot of this comes from a culture who thinks they are to good to respect police or they shouldnt have to cause there relatives were slaves 150 years ago and its all the white mans fault.but truth be told if they would have never been brought here they would be slaves today! Now we are all seeing the nasty,hateful,anger of ungrateful muslims and the stench of what they call there prophet.I have always had an open mind and accepting of all! That has changed and white and black americans will come together and salt the land of these horrible human beings

Yeah. Let’s believe a source as credible as the Washington Post as a source. How about the fact that African Americans (who as states DO make up only 13% of the population in America) do 60%+ of the crime in the country. They are also more likely to resist arrest. Police have put activist leaders through simulations to show them how hard of a choice it is. The activists shot the gun at the people more times than the cops did in the simulation. It’s a tough call for police. If a police officer, who wants to get back home to his family too, sees a person and knows that, statistically, they are more like to get hurt by this person, then it is perfectly reasonably for him to be more cautious. That is why COMPLIANCE IS KEY!

I'm a sociologist (a tenured full professor at a major research university), and this just makes me despise my field that much more. The conclusions being drawn here from these descriptive statistics are absolutely absurd. For an intellectually honest analysis of this issue, you'd need to know A LOT more about the circumstances that led up to the shootings. The author, who is a professor at a liberal arts college, might start by educating himself at least a little bit on police use of deadly force--an issue he clearly knows absolutely nothing about. Zilch. This statement really reveals his awful ignorance: "While someone confronted by police without any weapon certainly does not deserve to be killed by police gunfire, I would argue that even those with a weapon other than a gun, should be able to be apprehended by police without the use of lethal force. Police should have the training, skill, and expectation that an encounter, even with a non-cooperative or fleeing citizen, should be resolved by means other than lethal force." No understand of police deadly force at all. Pathetic. No one cares what someone "would argue" when they don't understand the complexities of a topic. Here's my favorite quote from Marcus Aurelius about my own sad field: "The opinion of 10,000 men is of no value if none of them know anything about the subject." Interestingly, 10,000 is about what's left of the declining ASA membership. Stay away students. It's a cult awash in identity politics. It's dying. Get a real job in a useful, honest, meaningful field. Don't waste your time with this gibberish.

Whenever theres a police shooting the blacks always try to say the guy was shot soley on the color of his skin. Grand jury and coroners inquests show the facts surrounding the incident show the offender presenting a clear and present danger during a lawful arrest. The black community has staged violent protests on these false assumptions. The Blue Lives Matter organ of the police departments has all their black officers and their families as an alliance to the justice community in the interests of law and order.

Wow. Way to lie your way right into the headlines, racist piece of race-baiting shit. You should feel ashamed and disgusted with your race-baiting self, trying to use black folks for your own agenda's progression not to mention the betterment of your own self. Yes, whites are shot and killed in larger totals overall, and then as you attempted to apply your bullshit in the form of mentioning that "whites try to use the fact there are more of them to justify this,". You then, in true leftist trash, hypocritical form, fail to account for the fact that despite representing only 13% of the entire US population, those fine, innocent and harmless black folks as you portray them also account for over 50% of all murderers each and every year not to forget the fact they're also responsible for over 43% of all police officers killed in the line of duty. It stands to reason that if any group, let alone a small minority, commits THAT much and THAT drastically disproportionate amounts of crime, that they will indeed come into not just contact but violent contact far more often than would other demographics you dimwitted fool.

Wow just saw this and people get mislead by the blatant disregard for percentage of crimes committed.. not general population.. if more blacks are committing crimes this stat will be higher.. way to create more civil unrest