Facts and opinions, though they must be kept apart, are not antagonistic to each other; they belong to the same realm. Facts inform opinions, and opinions, inspired by different interests and passions, can differ widely and still be legitimate as long as they respect factual truth. Freedom of opinion is a farce unless factual information is guaranteed and the facts themselves are not in dispute. In other words, factual truth informs political thought just as rational truth informs philosophical speculation. Hannah Arendt
A colleague, Professor Doug Rossinow, recently published an op-ed in the Minneapolis Star Tribune. An American historian who specializes in the 1960s, Doug has written extensively on the New Left. In his column, “Flash: ’60s radicalism predated Obama,” Rossinow unmasks an unscrupulous campaign tactic of guilt by association: the linking of Barack Obama to a former member of the notorious Weather Underground.
The day his column appeared, I sent an e-mail to our university community with the subject heading “Prof. Doug Rossinow exposes campaign ‘Swiftboating’ in today’s Star Tribune.” I also pasted the op-ed into the e-mail with the following preface: “Doug Rossinow provides Minnesotans an invaluable civic service in today’s Star Tribune. In the best tradition of a citizen-scholar, Doug exposes a presidential campaign fiction that the news media has failed to adequately fact check. He has done Metro State proud.”
As the old saying goes, no good deed goes unpunished. I received several irate e-mail responses. The following message was the most cogent.
“Opinions are opinions. Facts are facts.”
Hi Mr. Bute,
While I’m not sure that a broadcast political message to faculty colleagues is an appropriate use of MnSCU/Metro State resources, I’ll let that rest for now. Remember that Professor Rossinow’s article is an opinion piece, not news and if you wanted to alert your colleagues to the article, you might have done so without repeating the content.
There is room for disagreement in the article, and I quite readily admit that I do disagree with several of Rossinow’s (and by extension, your own) conclusions. Allow me to be clear, up front. I have been a committed Democrat since my first campaign in the Fifties–1950s not 1850s. I have been very active in every election since 1992, holding office in the local DFL organization and being campaign treasurer for four legislative campaigns.
I am not a committed Obama supporter, nor am I a committed Hilary supporter. My choice didn’t make it past Super Tuesday. I am fully prepared to support whoever emerges from the Convention as the nominee, flawed though he or she may be. While Rossinow may be a scholar of the Sixties and I am not, I lived through them. That should allow me to view the times through my perspective.
Professor Rossinow talks about the Weathermen as if they were “the gang who couldn’t shoot straight.” I admit they were no Al Qaeda. A group who knowingly planted bombs and set them off, perhaps killing anyone who happened to be in the vicinity, is, to me at least, a violent and threatening group.
Rossinow writes “[Bill] Ayers and other Weatherveterans may have become wholesome, productive citizens since returning to polite society.” Sara Jane Olsen became a productive citizen but is sitting in a jail cell today. There is evidence that she was a “brainwashed” pawn. Ayers was a militant leader in a terrorist group.
Rossinow soft-pedals their actions but does not the term “terrorist” fit? They were not teens hopped up on testosterone doing stupid things they were dangerous terrorists trying to overthrow our government by violence, or at least trying to get newspaper space and their message out. With Al Qaeda’s money and today’s technology, how dangerous could they be now?
Rossinow continues, “Hillary Clinton–at long last, having no shame–suggests that Ayers’ comment that ‘we didn’t do enough,’ in an interview published on 9/11, was an endorsement of Al-Qaeda’s attack on America. She certainly knows that Ayers’ interview was done before 9/11. Whatever he meant, the timing of the interview’s publication was simply unfortunate.”
Wait a minute. Two conjectures, both wrong (in my opinion). Rossinow cannot deny that Obama’s relationship with Ayers was a continuing one. More than just being a neighbor, they served together on a Board of Directors. They appeared together on at least one public panel. Rossinow’s implication that Ayer’s comment “We didn’t do enough” was innocuous because it was uttered before 9/11 is flat out stupid.
What did Ayers mean? Did he mean “We didn’t plant enough bombs?” “We didn’t kill anyone. Maybe we should have?” However he meant it, a former terrorist who says that, even before 9/11, doesn’t regret what he did do, he regrets what he didn’t do. Those aren’t the words of a “wholesome, productive citizen.” Anyone who knows history or lived through the Sixties should be shaken by that comment.
The fact that Obama sees nothing wrong with their association shows poor judgment on his part at best. Personally, I’d stay as far away from Ayers as I could. Hillary’s comments on the association are fair game. Can she claim Obama was sympathetic to terrorists in the Sixties? Of course not. Can she imply that Obama’s continuing and voluntary association with a Sixties terrorist who apparently has no regrets for his past actions show poor judgment on Mr. Obama’s part? Hell, yes!
Did Hillary know Ayers’ interview was before 9/11? I don’t know that. Maybe Rossinow does. If she knew it and still tied Ayers’ reference to 9/11 that was wrong. Shameful? I don’t know that.
The point of this all? Opinions are opinions. Facts are facts. Professor Rossinow doesn’t let the facts get in the way of his opinions. The article should be read that way.
Mike
“Factual truth informs political thought.”
Mike,
First off, I sent out that e-mail with pride; a Metropolitan State University faculty member had a column in the state’s premier newspaper. One distinguishing characteristic of Metro State is that our faculty tries to communicate not only with specialists in our fields but with the well-informed public as well. As a faculty member at a university that gets little or no respect, I admit I am quick to point out our achievements.
Second, it’s interesting that you insist on identifying Professor Rossinow’s op-ed as a “political message,” which you deem as inappropriate for ‘broadcast” on a workplace e-mail system. Internal communication about faculty achievements is quite common. Harvard, Princeton, and Yale are only too glad to have their faculty’s op-eds in the New York Times, Washington Post, or Wall Street Journal identified with their respective universities. They don’t make such a sharp distinction between “fact” and “opinion” because this line of demarcation is far murkier than you allow.
You seem to have an ideological criterion for distinguishing “fact” from “opinion.” I read Rossinow’s column as an example of solid investigative reporting: he busted journalists for passing off “opinion” as “news.” He exposed the new media’s failure to vet a planted story.
As for William Ayers, no matter how odious his behavior in the 1960s, he is, and has been for years, a professor at Illinois State in Chicago. Until this story broke, I doubt that most of his colleagues were aware of what he had done 40 years ago. It is also unlikely that Barack Obama knew of his background as a leader of the Weather Underground.
Over the past 40 years, I have served on numerous boards and spoke on many panels. No doubt some of my fellow board members or panelists have committed past transgressions that I have no knowledge of–just as some of them would be startled by some of my activities in the Sixties. The point being, one is not guilty by association with someone whose previous behavior we have no knowledge of.
Yes, the Weather Underground would be, by today’s standards, a “terrorist” organization. Yes, they were a physical danger to innocent victims who might have been injured by their bombings. Your next assertion, however, is a perplexing equivocation: “They were dangerous terrorists trying to overthrow our government by violence, or at least trying to get newspaper space and their message out.”
You got half that sentence correct: yes, they were self-promoting caricatures of media-inspired fantasies; no, they were not real revolutionaries who were trying to violently seize power. A pathetic lot, they had almost no support, even among radicals of the day. Further, they did not have the foggiest notion of how to make revolutionary change. And even if we were to allow that they were “dangerous terrorists,” what does that have to do with Obama, particularly if he had no knowledge of Ayers’ ancient history?
By failing to ”fact check” these spurious claims made by Hillary Clinton and Republican operatives, the mainstream media has been engaging in “opinion.” If the Obama-William Ayers’s story is not a case of media complicity with “Swiftboating,” I would love to see evidence for your explanation of these events.
In conclusion, I remember reading the September 11, 2001, issue of the New York Times. When I finished the Ayers’ interview that morning I thought, “what an unreconstructed moron that guy is.” Only later in the day, after the terrorist attacks, did I recall the Times interview. I saved that issue and, to this day, it sits on display in my office. If Hillary’s brain trust did not realize that the interview had occurred days before publication, they are too stupid to be in the White House; if they did realize it, they are too treacherous to be in the White House.
Monte
I am a firm believer in the people. If given the truth, they can be depended upon to meet any national crises. The great point is to bring them the real facts. Abraham Lincoln
Does Lincoln’s 19th century faith in the people’s ability to discern truth and to confront national crises extend to the American polity of the 21st century? The answer to that question may depend upon whether we can “bring them the real facts” before November 4, 2008.
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Bob Velez — April 28, 2008
Stick that in your pipe and smoke it, "Mike"...
Heh heh heh...
Cox — April 28, 2008
Ha ha! This is just what I needed to read. I had forgotten that Rossinow had published again. I took his Vietnam class when you told me to go dissect frogs or some such thing. I understand why you were urging me to study the circulatory systems of small creatures, but I was happy to ignore you. :)
Monte — April 28, 2008
Cox,
And what Mickey Mouse natural science course did you finally take to qualify for your prestigious social science degree?
Best,
Monte
P.S. Yes, you did have an unofficial major in "Anarchism!"
Colin — April 30, 2008
It is sad to see how easy it has been for Obama's opponents to portray him as some sort of violent radical because of both his "association" to Ayers and the sermons that his minister, Jeremiah Wright, gave that were very critical of America.
For one thing, Barack is just is so darn likable and friendly that one would have to get a case of serious brain-cramps trying to make him out to be a terrorist-by-association. And another, he's been so boringly-centrist in his Senate career that claims of his radicalism should have run smack up against the brick-wall of fact and be in intensive care surrounded by family members by now.
It is simply amazing to me that people are eating this shit up! Obama a black separatist? Grab the guns! Obama a junior-Weatherman? Ship him off to "Gitmo"!
The sad thing is, it shows how impossible it would be to elect a truly "radical" candidate--one who would have no qualms with cutting military funding, pushing for a negative income tax and free healthcare for those of us who are poor, and making sure that every kid/adult in America has access to good K-12 and post-secondary educations.
You get somebody like that and then we'll truly see a media smear campaign.
Monte — April 30, 2008
Hi Colin,
Great comments. I have been most disturbed by how much he has been thrown off his game--you would never know this is same candidate that we saw on Super Tuesday.
I'm hoping that he is capable of a "Religion in America" speech this coming Sunday that bookends his "Race in America" speech. He needs to answer by raising the level of discourse once again.
I really think that the next six weeks will be a test of the Lincoln quote that I put at the end this post. If the American public fails to respond to these crises, there is no one to blame but ourselves--the liberal-left side of continuum has been inept for nearly 35 years. I am not hopeful.
Best,
Monte
Bryan — May 6, 2008
I believe the current presidential administration made it clear as to where the relevance of facts stand:
''. . . the reality-based community,'' which he defined as people who ''believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.'' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ''That's not the way the world really works anymore,'' he continued. ''We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality -- judiciously, as you will -- we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.''
From “Faith, Certainty and the Presidency of George W. Bush
By RON SUSKIND October 17, 2004
Monte — May 7, 2008
Bryan,
What a perfect quote to demonstrate how important the struggle is to bring to the American people, in the words of Lincoln, "the real facts."
The resounding win in NC and a virtual tie in Indy demonstrated that Obama's truth telling overcame three weeks of negative spin. His victory speech in NC was all about a campaign of truth telling.
I remember reading Suskind's quote but I can't recall who actually said. Would you remind me?
Monte
Jeanne — June 9, 2008
I'm struck by one thing in Mike's letter: his attack on fellow Democrats.
Why are we bickering about "the facts" among ourselves when we have to work to change the course of our country now? Why do we point out flaws over and over and over again when what we need to do is emphasize our candidates' strengths?
This is why we've been inept, I think; we've been made so by the "divide and conquer" strategy of conservatives.
We forget to counter the right's innuendo about Obama's supposed Weathermen associations with the facts Rossinow points out as well as the fact that conservatives have been actively race baiting for forty years (gleaned from "The Fall of Conservativism," by George Packer and published in the May 26 2008 New Yorker).
Packer writes "The result [of Nixon's plan to polarize the left] was violence like nothing the country had seen since the Civil War, and Perlstein emphasizes that bombings, assaults, and murders committed by segregationists, hardhats, and vigilantes on the right were at least as numerous as those by radical students and black militants on the left."
(http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/05/26/080526fa_fact_packer)
In the New Yorker article, Packer describes a memo written by and given to him by Pat Buchanan from 1971. Packer writes:
Drawn up with an acute understanding of the fragilities and fault lines in “the Old Roosevelt Coalition,” it recommended that the White House “exacerbate the ideological division” between the Old and New Left by praising Democrats who supported any of Nixon’s policies; highlight “the elitism and quasi-anti-Americanism of the National Democratic Party”; nominate for the Supreme Court a Southern strict constructionist who would divide Democrats regionally; use abortion and parochial-school aid to deepen the split between Catholics and social liberals; elicit white working-class support with tax relief and denunciations of welfare. Finally, the memo recommended exploiting racial tensions among Democrats. “Bumper stickers calling for black Presidential and especially Vice-Presidential candidates should be spread out in the ghettoes of the country,” Buchanan wrote. “We should do what is within our power to have a black nominated for Number Two, at least at the Democratic National Convention.” Such gambits, he added, could “cut the Democratic Party and country in half; my view is that we would have far the larger half.”
Mike's email is a testament to the fact that we (the Democrats) are living the Republican dream, as written by Pat Buchanan in 1971. Clinton supporters vociferously vocalize their support for McCain at every opportunity they get. Edwards supporters actively point out the flaws of Obama. Kucinich supporters lament Obama's centrism.
Keep it up and we're going to see four (if not eight) more years of what we've seen in the last eight.