I thought this was going to be some horrible perverse video before I saw it. It was very tasteful, and though I'm not sure what else he has posted, I see nothing wrong with this.

I am all for women's rights and support them 110%, but nothing will every stop me from finding them beautiful, us beautiful. That is part of being human, a good part.

I think the name could have been different, but overall, the film showed intelligent, beautiful, women doing something they believed in. Awesome.

I actually think this is pretty awesome, and found myself wishing there were a Hot Guys of... well, anything, that was shot like this and included such a broad and diverse idea of beauty.

As an activist I find myself not going to a lot of actions because of shit like this. The tumbler and video of "hot chicks" is disgusting and the movement would be better off without frat boys like him in it. No one is saying don't find women attractive or don't meet attractive people at the protest. What people are pissed about, Rebecca Traister put it best, "The larger, simpler argument, outside of consent or permission, is: This video is sexist.
It’s an example of women participating in public life — political,
professional, social — and having their participation reduced to sexual
objectification. That’s what happened here, nothing more, nothing less."
Creating a blog and a video dedicated to showing women at a protest with
the sole purpose of reminding men that women at the protest are hot?
That does reduce women to objects of male attention. It’s another
reminder, for women, that how seriously we’re taken and how valuable we
are depends on how sexually attractive we’re deemed.

That's not all either. Look at how the women are depicted in what they say and do: painting signs and faces, handing out food, making music, dancing etc. These are all tasks assigned by gender roles, and if it weren't for the specs of politics, it could have been a culture festival he's talking about. And even then, when the omen themselves get to speak, he picks the ones fitting the female stereotype. The astrologist (spirituality, superstition), the one who's there for the children she doesn't even have yet and the women spouting idealism (naivete), and the woman who is just amazed at the whole thing (admiration). Where are the educated folk, the cynics, the pessimists and the ones who've just had enough? Obviously not in this guy's mind, they don't fit the pedistal he's placed these women on.

What bothers me about this is the seeming lack of permission. It is an invasion of privacy - if these women did not consent to their image being used.

People just love to miss the point on issues like this, saying things like 'the video isn't sexist, it's really tasteful!' as though 'sexist' and 'tasteful' are mutually exclusive. Whoever has gone and filmed these women has done so because they found them physically attractive, not simply because they thought they were smart, or because they represented a decent cross-section of the people at the protest. 'Hot Chicks at Occupy Wall Street' reduces women's worth to their physical appearance, even if they are adding 'isn't it great that these attractive women have brains?' Greenstreet liked that the 'super smart' women were also 'hot', and that the women making signs etc had 'pretty faces'. Some of the voices of dissent about the Tumblr weren't even saying it was sexist, they were saying the women weren't actually good looking. Says it all really. 

Greenstreet also apparently made a rape joke on his Facebook page, making him what I would politely call not a very nice man. 

First off, they are identifying the girl as 18 because she's being arrested.  And I do agree that this is a project that transformed from something that could have been degrading to something that is empowering.  Look at those women - look at their strength, their power, their intelligence, and yes - their beauty.  I actually find this site far less degrading than the hot men of occupy wall street!  And the video is truly great.  If someone presented this video as "sharing the voices of women participating in Occupy Wall Street" instead of as a part of a string of pics of attractive women, we'd be cheering.

The video is nice, but calling these people "hot chicks" is not.

Were it not for the language this could be fine. How about "Women of OWS" or something? Why "chicks"? Why is "hot" the chosen adjective here. :/

I agree that finding someone attractive is a compliment and it is really cool to see such a diverse selection of people all called beautiful, but these people are not out there trying to be "hot." They are out there working their asses off for something they believe in and THAT is what he should have highlighted.

How about "Voices of OWS Women" or something? I don't know. Anything but hot chicks.

I view his response as very passive aggressive, and I see him using violent communication in it.

He writes:
"It was not my intent to do that and I think the spirit of the video, and the voices within, are honorable and inspiring."
In reality, it does not matter what his intent is or was. If women feel disrespeted and dishonored because of it, then it IS disrespectful. If he is aware of these feelings then does nothing about it, then he is blatantly sexist, and has no respect for women and their opinions. He is in a non-target position on this (being a male in a discussion about gender) and he is asserting his dominance with this statement. Remember: I am not saying he doesn't have a right to 'free speech,' I am referring to the extra-legal point of basic human kindness and respect.

He writes:
"...if you disagree with me, I encourage you to use that as an excuse to create constructive discussions about the issues you have."
Here he excuses himself from blame by claiming that those angered by his blog could turn it into something positive and use it as a point of discussion. The reality is, that we (who find this offensive) are sick and tired of having to explain, teach, and admonish offenders. Non-target populations should be responsible for teaching THEMSELVES about these issues. He, while encouraging "constructive discussions" is, at the same time acting destructively.

I find this blog and his response utterly shameful.

A link just went up for the "Hot Dudes of Occupy Wall Street".  Is this offensive too?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/60364683@N08/

I am utterly puzzled that an article can write about this and not mention this:
http://persephonemagazine.com/2011/11/occupy-wall-street-how-about-we-occupy-rape-culture/

Nasty responses to mean-spirited videos only increases the meanness in the world. Not to say that you should "elevate the discourse," but your case would be a lot more effective without the petty sarcasm, which only plays to your base and rallies them to vote for you.

The upsetting thing is that I know one of these women, and when she found out about this, she had been totally unaware that someone was taking pictures of her. These pictures are not being taken with the permission of these women. Also, she's under the age of 18, which makes it doubly inappropriate.

When I worked at the Renaissance Festival, I looked up from what I was doing to
see a strange man hiding behind a pole taking pictures of me. Freaked
me out, and it made me feel like meat. I loosened my corset and hiked up
my shirt after that, and I was pretty pissed that I had to change my
behavior or risk being objectified in the creepiest way. I would be doubly mad if I had been participating in something meaningful and had my voice erased by sexist videos. Being photographed without my permission while I was working was bad enough.

The funny thing is that many people would say that I couldn't expect anything else, as I was wearing a corset. You know, for being a woman in public...

The other thing that bother me is the assumption that since there are pretty young mostly white girls pictured, this is supposed to help legitimize the movement? The people who are most affected by our corporate economy are the elderly, the poor, and minorities. So if they were all out there protesting, would this make the movement less valuable in Steven's view?

Sorry, that video was showing how beautiful and strong these women are. There was nothing degrading, in fact it seemed to be glorifying them. A videographer is free to choose whatever subjects he should like, so long as he isn't invading their privacy unduly. The video was not disrespectful. It was aesthetically pleasing, and why shouldn't it be? In another context, it could be used for a film for a UN women's event. What, do you have to put shots of 'unattractive' women in there to ensure that you are not focussing on the physical? Leave the man. It's his personal project. It's not like he specifically took boob or ass shots or something.

First, no one in a public place has any right to an expectation of privacy, and permission is not required to take their photo, or publish it. Consider, for a moment, what life would be like if that were not true. Second, if women show up at a protest having carefully planned their attire to alight a reaction, dressing up as a cop for example, they are getting one. The suggestion that they are victims is absurd.

All the Occupy Sydney protesters outside my office in Martin Place were disgusting feral skanks. Some of these pigs shat in the street. Most of them are from privilege and just lazy ignorant attention seekers. I don't have a clear line of fire from my room, otherwise several of them would be gone by now.

I just watched the video above - what a bunch of pretentious privileged young wankers. I could smell the sanctimony from here. They are not strugglers. Their bourgeois leftism makes me sick.

That is so.... unbelievably sad and horrible. :*( Oh why, oh why couldn't he have made a similar movie including men and women of all shapes and ages? It could have been about the beauty of engagement and the movement itself - I quite like his style, actually, he obviously can film. So why did he choose to make something so obviously sexist and degrading?

I recently did a response photo essay called "Awesome Women of Occupy" that I am sharing on my website all this week: www.kittenswithmittens.com.

http://kittenswithmittens.com/2011/11/21/feminism-original-awesome-women-of-occupy/

Im a current art student, and being so am exposed to many great converstaions, so I will leave you with a questions to ponder on.
Is it sexist because is was created by 2 males? would you think it was sexist if created by females?
Do you think it is a possibility to focus on the "beautiful" because the OWS movement is often thought of as composed of dirty lazy individuals

Wow.  Incredibly over-sensitive feminists offended by a nice video of beautiful woman standing up for what they believe in.  Really, its all in the minds eye.  You can twist anything you want and make it seem as if it is "bad".  Thats why some feminists really need a reality check.  This isnt a "sick" man doing "sick" things.  REALLY.  Get OVER yourselves.  If there is any injustices here, it is YOU folks going overboard on someones creativity thats honestly not sexist.  Would you even stand up for "Hot Men Occupy Wall St".  SERIOUSLY, none of these woman were naked, and I think you are jealous of their beauty.  Minimal, if any "breast" shots, etc.  COMMON.  get real people.  Spend your energy fighting for something that is truely deserving of it.  Shame on you!

Wow. You guys, have really missed the point. There's a fight agin in this country between the haves and the marginalized and you want to further weaken your team by creating a sexual division? You're going to get your way and then re-define what is "right" so that no one will ever fit the description. Come On!!! It's called "Hot Chicks at Occupy" to drive up viewership! These women were not portrayed in a sexual or diminutive way. Oh, except one...the hottest girl in the video. You know, the one that didn't say anything. The one that was obviously only in the video for the still. It's called marketing and it works. You're mad because they're portrayed as painting signs? They weren't portrayed as painting signs. They WERE painting signs! It's a protest. That's what you do at a protest. 
Those of you who have commented negatively on this video are more concerned with your own personal baggage than this movement. Rebecca Traister is more concerned with personal power, mostly found in the collection of agreement, than she is in moving society forward. Does sexism suck? Yes. Does it suck that you aren't as attractive as your sister? Yes. Does the abuse of the poor and middle class, which is currently at Industrial Revolution proportions, in this country today suck? Yes. Ask yourself, which is more important right now?  Now, I have only seen the video on this page. I know nothing about the website. As a former activist and amateur film maker I see this as a cleverly conceived, beautifully shot, well edited attempt to bring the Occupy message to a larger audience.  Or...just a video about hot chicks, who by the way are only attractive. NONE of them fit the standard "sex object" definition of hot. No fake boobs. No giddy laugh. If Greenstret is trying to "objectify" women by showing that they can have a positive, caring message and can deliver that message eloquently while wearing clothing and hairstyles that enhance their individualism and create an identity as artistic concerned citizens then ok. He objectified them. Jeezus people. He didn't make them all look like strippers. Except the stripper. If anything, he has highlighted the difference between these women and strippers.

One more thing....
Hi Steve, 
I am third person on this video, the egyptian face painter. 
Just wanted to thank you for capturing the feminine side of the story and let you know that i do not care if you call me a hot chick. It’s actually humorous and i love it! 
To me, it isn’t about the words used, its about who is saying them and I can tell you have the best of intentions. 
I have been called a “lady” by men that treat me like shit, and a “hot mama” by men who treat (me) with respect and dignity. 
On that note, thank you again. 
Sincerely, Dania

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