A while back, Lisa posted a video of clips of Bob Barker harassing women — sorry, “girls,” as he invariably referred to them — on The Price Is Right. Sadly, that video has been yanked from YouTube. But reader Melissa sent in another example of harassment and general creepiness on game shows, this time from the 1980s Canadian show Just Like Mom. Host Fergie Olver seemed to have a running gag of trying to get the young female contestants on the show to kiss him, even trying to sneak kisses after girls had very clearly said no (Note: A couple of readers suggested a warning that the video might be particularly uncomfortable or upsetting for some viewers because of the content):
Aside from the harassment, it’s a great example of changing social norms. Presumably many people may have found the behavior disturbing at the time the show (and others with similar behavior) was on the air, but it was sufficiently acceptable for an adult man to try to force young girls to kiss him that he was allowed to do it repeatedly on air. While harassment and infantilization of adult women is still widespread on reality TV, the increased stigma surrounding pedophilia and moral outrage about sex offenders makes me suspect that a male host forcing kisses on girls week after week today would meet with a significantly more negative response.

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Rogerabutterfield — October 25, 2011
Maybe I'm being overly sensitive (I'm reading Lolita right now *shudder*) but you might want to put a trigger warning on that above image. This whole thing is creepy.
Smf — October 25, 2011
this is so sickening..I have no problem with watching anything but I've seen this before and there's no way I'll watch it twice. What I find most ironic is knowing that something like this would not even been tolerated in a less developed country, a country where women and children enjoy no rights at all. This is absolutely paradoxical.
Kat — October 25, 2011
How is that dude different from this dude:
http://texasflds.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/jeffs-kiss21.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zxcBkOB_h-I/TjwG9nzcQXI/AAAAAAAAAN4/oR34c0LkCJk/s1600/JeffsCameo.jpg
Arovd — October 25, 2011
The family feud guy always creeped me out. Don't remember his name?
Kazoo — October 25, 2011
I don't think Rogerabutterfield is being overly sensitive. I could only take a couple of seconds of the video and I don't have any nasty memories that could be triggered. It's downright frightening behavior, and I think a warning is appropriate.
pg — October 25, 2011
Here's an older Saturday Night Live clip that deals with the same thing... ~4 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xY4drATYRQ&feature=player_embedded
Part of what makes the Just Like Mom footage so creepy is that he is relentless even when the girls say no explicitly...and even goes so far as to tell them that if they don't give in then they won't win the show.
Whether or not it is a norm to kiss/not kiss your elders/kids, etc... it *is* a social norm to *not* seek active, verbal consent, and it *is* a norm to coerce or force people who are clearly denying consent. just sayin...
Ang — October 25, 2011
I would be very interested to hear Lee Anns (the contestant) memories of the whole thing, how it made her feel at the time, and what she thinks, watching it now. The thing creeps me out, I wonder how it really was recieved back in the day, and what was said about him by contestants among themselves, if he had a negative reputation...
Aitch Slavic — October 25, 2011
I was born in the early sixties and grew up watching a lot of TV, sometimes it was used as a baby-sitter. This type of thing was not an uncommon sight on the mass media. It was more acceptable then. We view it through the eyes of today where it is revealed as a violation and a power play.
Anonymous — October 25, 2011
The interaction with the 3rd girl shown in the clip struck me as the worst. The others almost could have been scripted' but that one was definitely disturbing. It's not okay to coerce a grown woman into kissing you, and I doubt he could have done it, but he uses his authority as an adult, and even tries to bribe her, to kiss him, even when she doesn't want to. Just....not okay. I wonder who it is who muttered "dirty old man."
Vincci Tsui — October 25, 2011
Wait... the moms are sitting NEXT TO the girls in this video?
Dean Peters — October 26, 2011
Nowadays we're very inclined to see this in the light of paedophilia, but I'm not sure that's appropriate. This guy may or may not be sexually attracted to the young girls, and I don't think his behaviour here necessarily says much about that.
That's not to say the behaviour isn't a form of harassment and possibly very uncomfortable for the girls. To me it looks like most of his enjoyment comes from exerting the power that his gender and age gives him over them. I think there's also an element of "coaching" to what he's doing - he's teaching these girls to be receptive to the sexual coaxing of men. And like many social roles, this lesson is being taught via a kind of play-acting.
Tom Megginson — October 26, 2011
My God, that's awful. Have a seat right over there.
Student — October 26, 2011
I was reffered to this article by my sociology professor, and I literally can't watch it in the library because I'm so creeped out. I have my headphones in and scrolled all the way down on the page so people can't see what I'm watching because its so sketchy. I feel like the social stigma against sex offenders is largely unfounded and unfair, my best friend being one and having seen it up close how easily that particular system screws people's lives up, I'm happy that at least it prevents freaks like this guy getting a 7 o'clock spot.
Snarlez — October 26, 2011
maybe it's just my upbringing, but I found the reaction to this just plain silly. I bet that man has never had a sexual thought about a child in his life. The comments saying that he was hiding his secretly pedophilia through the times.... ridiculous. Yeah, fine, argue that it wasn't okay that it was more socially acceptable to force yourself onto kids then, but FFS, that man is not a pedo.
Another thing this video always reminds me of, people find it really creepy taht growing up I kissed my parents on the lips. you'd have to have grown up with it to see how incredibly not creepy it actually is if you are actually innocent minded.
Snarlez — October 26, 2011
why was my comment deleted.... =(
At — October 28, 2011
Damn... I really appreciate the trigger warning, because I was able to have my mouse poised over the pause button and the mute button which I ended up using.
I feel sick. Its not that often that this blatant sexual harassment of children is on video, so it's not too often that I have to relive some of my childhood trauma, but it sucks.
William Hitzel — March 15, 2016
This kind of thing was too common in that time period. Though it was something that happened the other way around as well. Women trying to force kissing or other forms of physical affection on young boys.
David — May 10, 2016
GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT !!!
It's not Bob Barker, it's Fergie Olver.
David — May 10, 2016
Sorry sorry, I just read thee entire paragraph you've written..
Sorry lol
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Mettā — January 18, 2017
I'd say he's trying to break the ice if it wasn't for the sexual chemistry.
PeopleLike — November 15, 2017
Men shouldn't kiss young girls (minor) Women shouldn't kiss young boys (minor).
I'm a woman, I'm more affectionate to girls than boys because I know it's better for each gender to receive validation of love from their own gender
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Crowbar — October 22, 2018
These children are girls, not women. The conclusion that it was something people were okay with or it was just a “gag” doesn’t hold up when you hear that “dirty old man” comment from the audience.
I think people didn’t feel that they could speak out but not that it was seen as less weird or creepy.
Kristi — October 30, 2018
I have a nine year old daughter and if that were to happen to her id be in prison. The bribing is what made it more sick. That poor girl being told she was going to win. I don't care how long ago this was. In no way is it acceptable behavior.
Greg Martin — March 1, 2019
I agree with commenter who found the reaction to this a little overwrought. Oliver’s behavior is without a doubt inappropriate, and there is no excuse for putting children in so uncomfortable a position; I very much doubt that any of them relished being kissed by this man. Still, words like pedophile and pervert should not be thrown about lightly. In any case, where were the CTV network executives who never should have permitted such behavior to continue over scores of episodes?
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Christopher Lord — April 14, 2019
That's what kind of sick world we live in when everybody think it's okay for some grown man to kiss a little girl or if a husband lets a man kiss his wife it's very inappropriate he shouldn't be in jail or executed for child molestation
Anonymous — April 14, 2019
I meant to say he should be executed or in prison for child molestation how is it okay back in the day but if some grown man goes up to a little girl and kisses her he would be in jail how is that guy from Family Feud kissing everybody not in jail I don't understand
Christopher Lord — April 14, 2019
I meant to say he should be executed or in prison for child molestation how is it okay back in the day but if some grown man goes up to a little girl and kisses her he would be in jail how is that guy from Family Feud kissing everybody not in jail I don't understand
Christopher Lord — April 14, 2019
That's why you ain't supposed to respect any old people because they allowed a grown man to kiss a minor on the lips and 0n National Television that is so sick I'm sorry but if I had a daughter in a grown man kissed my underage daughter he would be dead
Radek Novák — March 11, 2020
This is not acceptable manner in my country(Czechia) now and back in the day too.English speaking nations are weird....your society let the man to kissing girls on entire show and now you wish him death or live in prison.So what do you want? Liberty on high level but high punishments? If this happened in our country he should be put in mental asylum fast and dont have chance to be in TV.I feel bad for that children.
Followerscart.uk — December 4, 2020
These children are girls, not women. The conclusion that it was something people were okay with or it was just a “gag” doesn’t hold up when you hear that “dirty old man” comment from the audience.
I think people didn’t feel that they could speak out but not that it was seen as less weird or creepy.
USA Followers — December 4, 2020
I meant to say he should be executed or in prison for child molestation how is it okay back in the day but if some grown man goes up to a little girl and kisses her he would be in jail how is that guy from Family Feud kissing everybody not in jail I don't understand
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