Elizabethe Payne is director of the Queering Education Research Institute (QuERI). Her work focuses on advancing the well-being of gender and sexual minority students through research-to-policy efforts at the state and federal levels. She is currently completing a 10-year research project exploring implementation of LGBTQ-inclusive state anti-bullying law in New York. Dr. Payne was the recipient of the 2022-2023 American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Educational Research Association Congressional Fellowship. She also serves on the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) Committee for Bullying and Cyberbullying. Her work has appeared in a number of publications including Teachers College Record, QED: A Journal of GLBTQ World Making, and Educational Administration Quarterly. You can find her on bluesky @ecpayne. QuERI is on bluesky & FB @QueeringEDU. Here I talk to her about her book, Queer Kids and Social Violence: The Limits of Bullying
AMW: What are some of the broader social forces you see at play when queer kids experience violence in school settings and how do schools often overlook them?
EP: Bullying, as a concept, does not currently encompass the range of behaviors that regulate gender expressions. The majority of bullying research has been “gender blind”–failing to look at the sociocultural context of bullying and the ways many bullying behaviors are rooted in reinforcing the rules for “appropriate” gender behavior and sexuality. When discussions of bullying do turn to gender, they largely reinforce gendered stereotypes and essentialized norms of masculinity and femininity rather than exploring the policing of gender boundaries as a primary social function of bullying behavior. Bullying behaviors are not antisocial but rather highly social acts deeply entrenched in the perpetuation of cultural norms and values. Significantly, those norms usually require a fixed relationship between (cis/hetero) gender, sex and sexuality. Students’ speech, behavior, and self-presentation are regulated by cultural rules mapping the “right” way to exist in the school environment, and youths’ everyday gender policing practices often fail to draw adults’ attention because these behaviors largely align with educator beliefs and the institutional values of school. Young people’s attitudes about difference are partially formed in a school-based social scene that rewards conformity. Youth regularly regulate and discipline the boundaries between “normal” and “different” along the lines of sex, gender, and sexuality and their intersections with race, class, ability, and this process can be a mechanism for acquiring and increasing social status. These patterns of aggression occur constantly throughout the school, producing and reproducing systems of value based on gender conformity, and they often occur within friendship groups making it all the more difficult to see and to intervene. It is, therefore, important to examine the various ways in which schools institutionalize heterosexuality and cisgender identity, silence and marginalize queerness, and support social positioning practices that privilege idealized cisgender and heterosexual identities and behaviors. Current understandings of and responses to bullying depoliticize violence against queer kids, which is part of the continued appeal. Aggression targeting LGBTQ+ students needs to be understood within a broader system of gender regulation that is experienced by all people and in multiple contexts.
AMW: In what ways do you think our current focus on anti-bullying programs might be missing the mark when it comes to actually protecting queer students?
EP: Over time, it has become clear that “anti-bullying” and other individualized interventions are not creating significant change. Anti-bullying programs and policies may be successful (at least temporarily) at decreasing overtly violent acts and making adults more aware of harmful peer dynamics, but such behavioral changes do not challenge norms or values upholding discrimination against sexuality and gender diversity and these discriminatory norms provide permission for youth to target their peers. Patriarchal, cisheteronormative power structures in which these norms are anchored have been largely undisturbed in Western elementary and secondary schools. These are the cultural conditions in which youth learn lessons about gender hierarchies, queer stigma, and gender policing. Portrayal of bullying is decoupled from structural power relations, and focus is placed on the actions of individual students reinforcing the binaries of bully/victim, bad kid/good kid. Intervention efforts are directed toward the individual youth involved in the interaction rather than the structural inequalities that allow for some groups of students to be the targets and others to be the perpetrators. This also enables blame to be placed outside the school—poorly socialized children bring the problem into the school—and avoid examination of the school culture and its role. The bullying discourse has produced a simplistic, taken-for-granted narrative about bullied youth that schools and other institutions can uncritically absorb. Anti-bullying programs are more often pushing violent behavior underground than they are calling systemic privileging and marginalization into question. Additionally, the increased surveillance and reporting that often accompanies anti-bullying programs disproportionately impacts already marginalized youth including LGBTQ+ youth and students of color.
AMW: What do you hope educators, parents, or even fellow students take away from this book—especially those who want to create lasting, positive change for LGBTQ+ youth?
EP: The questions most often asked about bullying are behavior management questions not questions about the ideological roots of persistent, predictable, patterns of peer targeting. Policies and practices should not only address bullying as it occurs, but also identify and address cultural systems that stimulate and support bullying behaviors and the targeting of difference. Bullying is a complex social problem, not the effect of individual bad children. Educators need to understand the social tools youth use to discriminate, link those tools to institutional culture, and take action to address school participation in supporting categories of marginalization. We know from past intervention efforts that a “just say no” approach is ineffective. We need to make their patterns of targeting visible to youth, talk with them about why they feel it is OK to target others based on a particular identity or characteristic. We need to have uncomfortable conversations about the ways that adults in a school, and outside it, also use gender norms to shame and degrade young people. Bullying is social, not anti-social behavior. It serves a social function and policies boundaries between normal/acceptable and different/not tolerated. We want educators, parents, students to come away from the book seeing bullying as a social problem, not only an individual one, and ready to think in new ways about it.
Alicia M. Walker is Associate Professor of Sociology at Missouri State University and the author of two previous books on infidelity, and a forthcoming book, Bound by BDSM: Unexpected Lessons for Building a Happier Life (Bloomsbury Fall 2025) coauthored with Arielle Kuperberg. She is the current Editor in Chief of the Council of Contemporary Families blog, serves as Senior Fellow with CCF, and serves as Co-Chair of CCF alongside Arielle Kuperberg. Learn more about her on her website. Follow her on Twitter or Bluesky at @AliciaMWalker1, Facebook, her Hidden Desires column, and Instagram @aliciamwalkerphd

















