See update below on LA District Attorney, Steve Cooley-30 September 2009 11:25 PDT.
First off, my opinion is that director Roman Polanski is guilty of rape, a rape that took place in 1977. A few days ago, he was arrested in Switzerland, after police there were tipped off by US authorities. Here’s an overview::
Over on the Salon.com broadsheet, Kate Harding wants us all to remember that Roman Polanski raped a child. I often take issue with Salon, as several times in the past they have used gender as a wedge issue, intentionally framing things so as to stir controversy. In this case, Harding wants the Polanski case reduced to one note:: child rapist. While this may strengthen the emotional impact of her argument, it negates and dilutes the complexity of the situation and how others involved need to be held accountable for their actions that have led us to this point.
Those wanting the lurid details can easily find them online thanks to the prosecution, so I won’t go over those here. I will state what Polanski was initially charged with back in 1977::
“rape by use of drugs, perversion, sodomy, lewd and lascivious act upon a child under 14, and furnishing a controlled substance (methaqualone) to a minor.”
The prosecution, stating they wanted to spare the the girl the trauma of having to go through a trial, offered a plea bargain, where Polanski copped to the charge of ::
“engaging in unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor.”
So, why did he flee the country and avoid extradition back to the US for over 30 years?
Allegedly, word got out that the media hungry judge, Laurence J. Rittenband, the “judge to the stars,” was getting a sense that the public would be outraged by this plea deal and was set to throw the book at Polanski. Polanski fled. This judge later went on record stating that he would stay on the bench until Polanski was returned. That didn’t happen. He retired from the bench in 1989 and died of cancer in 1993. When he retired, he quoted Gilbert and Sullivan stating, “I got him [Polanski] on my list.” {Don’t get me started on crank judges quoting showtunes and Shakespeare.} Now, echoing those statements, Los Angeles County District Attorney Steve Cooley wants justice to be done::
“He received a very, very, very lenient sentence back then, which would never be achievable under today’s laws, and we’ll see what the court wants to do in terms of the sentence and the parameters within the case settlement they had back then.”
First off, one has to be suspect of the political motives for a DA to go after such a high-profile figure, which is reminiscent of the book/film, Bonfire of the Vanities. It seems odd to suddenly be going after a 75 year old fugitive from justice.
Update:: I have found out that Steve Cooley is on his third term as District Attorney. He will likely be seeking another term in 2012, after successfully blocking a referendum instituting term limits for the office. – more background
I think there are more dangerous criminals who, I’m just throwing this out there, are in the LA area that pose a greater threat. So, I find this to be a curious “triaging” of pressing cases by Cooley. Moreover, Cooley has allowed lurid details to get out and the victim herself just wants the matter dropped ::
“[The District Attorney] has, yet one more time, given great publicity to the lurid details of those events for all to read again…True as they may be, the continued publication of those details causes harm to me, my beloved husband, my three children and my mother…I have become a victim of the actions of the district attorney.”
She received a civil settlement from him and just wants to go on with her life.
Harding in Salon will have none of that::
“Shouldn’t we be honoring her wishes above all else?
In a word, no. At least, not entirely. I happen to believe we should honor her desire not to be the subject of a media circus, which is why I haven’t named her here, even though she chose to make her identity public long ago. But as for dropping the charges, Fecke [a blogger] said it quite well: ‘I understand the victim’s feelings on this. And I sympathize, I do. But for good or ill, the justice system doesn’t work on behalf of victims; it works on behalf of justice.'”
Really. In the same article she reminds us::
“Regardless of whatever legal misconduct might have gone on during his trial, the man admitted to unlawful sex with a minor.”
So, legal misconduct doesn’t factor into justice. This isn’t a cafeteria where one can choose aspects of the case to embrace or ignore and legal misconduct sure factors into the appeal process. So, those hoping for a Polanski extradition should be cautious of what they wish for. It begs the question, is this really about justice or is it about vengeance and retribution? What precisely is the difference in a sociocultural sense of US values? How does this relate to the feminism{s} of today?
I’m far from a Polanski apologist, but I do care about how the system of jurisprudence operates. I dislike the reduction of complexity to catchy and emotion-stirring soundbites and I think its irresponsible and short-sighted. I’m not for glossing over his crimes, but how about holding the judge and prosecution responsible for letting things get to this point and treading cautiously given the implications of stirring up a flawed case, despite slam-dunk evidence. Let’s think about what was proper and improper outside of the bedroom, but in the courtroom.
Twitterversion:: #RomanPolanski faces extradition to US for sentencing of 1977 rape, but what are the stakes for due process? @Prof_K
Comments 10
cooper — September 29, 2009
He is a fugitive from justice, he should have stayed here, he didn't he fled.
It doesn't matter what the victim wants, she settled financially with him some time ago, but this is a state matter, and privilege, fame, even genius, should not factor in. If I didn't believe that a john doe without fame and money, with the same case history in which judicial misconduct was a possibility, would be in jail by now I wouldn't feel this way.
The bigger problem for me is that they could have brought him in long ago, he was only a rapist of a 13 year old so they didn't, and there is much about the reason for this current arrest that bears looking at. In the end though it's too bad it took so long, but he is where he belongs.
ellemac — September 30, 2009
I confess, I am one who sought out the lurid details, for no other reason than this case being revisited piqued my interest. I read the transcript of the victim's testimony and was disgusted. I understand why the Salon article portrays this as a one-note case, why she appeals to the base emotional reaction anyone would have to hearing of a 43 year old man drugging and raping a 13 year old who repeatedly said "no". It is emotional.
But you're right, there's lots more guilt to pass around. I think the concern about pointing out the culpability of the justice system (to say nothing of the victim's mother for allowing the whole thing to happen in the first place) can have a seeming effect of detracting from burden and focus of Polanski's guilt. If you share the responsibility, do you not somehow minimize each party's role? Clearly, the crime itself is a separate issue from how the justice system bungled it. But it's hard to divorce oneself from the emotional reaction we have to the horrific nature of the crime, in order to be clear-headed enough to guarantee the right to a fair trial and all that American idealism and such.
I do think, in a case that is over 30 years old, that the victim's opinion should have some bearing. Unless he is now or has in the past committed this crime against others, I think it would be best to let that sleeping bastard lie. He paid restitution to the victim some years ago. By forcing the issue now, the victim continues to suffer, and to what end?
Kenneth M. Kambara — September 30, 2009
I wanted to bring attention to two additional pieces. One is a NYTimes op ed by Robert Harris and a HuffPo entry by a former judge, H. Lee Sarokin.
Harris, who admits has tied to Polanski, wonders why go after him now? Cash-strapped California was recently forced to release 40,000 convicts by court order due to prison overcrowding, so aren't there more pressing matters. Well, Steve Cooley had an answer to this. In Harris' piece::
Sarokin thinks this matter is very important issue for the integrity of the judicial system::
First off, I think there's more than a bit of opportunism here by Cooley. If this is diverting time away from pressing cases in a tight-budget era, I hope it can be justified. Moreover, I think it's a risky strategy, as this case can drag out on appeal and due to actions done 30 years ago, the whole thing can blow up in his face.
Secondly, I'm not sure if Sarokin is willing to go the distance with his claim of the judicial system winning by Polanski appearing. I say this because he talks of the crime and the criminal, not justice stemming from the facts, including those of procedural due process. He tipped his hand.
My interests are in justice. It may mean Polanski falls. It may mean he walks on appeal. I have no vested interest in either, but I do care about justice and proper procedure.
In a different forum, this post elicited this response::
Absolutely not. The two are separate issues. The latter may be "proven" but this is in jeopardy if legal misconduct is found, showing flaws in the procedures. It doesn't matter how "concrete" the evidence is. There may be concrete evidence on the misconduct side, but these are two separate issues that are linked. Let me put it this way, any alleged misconduct does NOT negate the crime. I never said that, but, logically, this must follow::
A->B
Due Process-> Outcome
No misconduct -> Conviction
Misconduct -> Acquittal
The extradition cannot focus solely on the outcome (B). We all know Polanski's lawyers will see to that.
Yes, Polanski wanted to return to the US and has tried to get the entire case dropped by the LA Superior court for many years, unsuccessfully, on the basis of technicalities. The latest {2008?} ruling was that he would have to appear. A risk he didn't want to take.
Meting out justice is a dual-edged sword. Those thinking that an extradition is the simple fix might be in for a rude awakening. Remember the OJ Simpson 1995 murder trial...
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"First off, one has to be suspect of the political motives for a DA to go after such a high-profile figure, which is reminiscent of the book/film, Bonfire of the Vanities. It seems odd to 'suddenly' be going after a 75 year old fugitive from justice."
why do you say "suddenly"? the DA didn't make any of this happen. the DA didn't bring Polanski in, right?
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"First off, one has to be suspect of the political motives for a DA to go after such a high-profile figure, which is reminiscent of ..."
hmmm. "...one 'has to be' suspect of"?
it's been a high profile case for decades. wouldn't it be pretty 'suspect' if the DA didn't "go after" this polanski figure?
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"Harris, who admits has tied to Polanski, wonders why go after him 'now'? "
it's not just 'now'. there have been thousands of mentions of this case (in the popular press), and the fact that prosecutors and law enforcement have sought his arrest ... extradition ... whatever you call it - for decades.
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"But you’re right, there’s lots more guilt to pass around. I think the concern about pointing out the culpability of the justice system (to say nothing of the victim’s mother for allowing the whole thing to happen in the first place)"
hmmm. he's responsible for his actions - regardless of whatever the mother did or didn't do. right? either he is, or he isn't. right? what if the mother told him to kill her? would he not then still be responsible?
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"how about holding the judge and prosecution responsible for letting things get to this point"?
isn't that a separate matter entirely, from whether or not mr polanski is guilty of a crime, and whether he is subject to punishment for that crime in california?
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
"I think there are 'more dangerous criminals' who, I’m just throwing this out there, are in the LA area that pose a greater threat. So, I find this to be a curious “triaging” of pressing cases by Cooley."
'more dangerous criminals'? probably so. still - what would it mean to people - society - if we decided to not fully prosecute, according to california law, a 'high profile' cool and sexy dude like mr polanski for his alleged crimes? seems to me the natural thing would be for a guy like him to be prosecuted even more vigorously than a regular joe. it's not fair. life is often not fair. certainly it wouldn't make much sense to be easier on a high profile guy, would it? or is the law here somehow wrong? that's more interesting to me. i'd like to hear what people really think of the laws against stuff like what mr polanski did.
Fred Strauss — October 2, 2009
in response to this excerpt from Ann Althouse:
“It means that those with high professional standing do not need the usual criminal punishments given to individuals who have very little in this world. Ordinary people must be punished in prison, but big shots are already punished heavily by the mere revelation of their crimes and therefore should be relieved of much or all of the usual prison sentence.”
Mortimer Brezny (an Ann Althouse reader) had this to say:
"I used to agree with Ann that punishment ought to be equal. But then I realized that sympathy is unequal. If you are poor, you are pitied. If you are rich, you are not. No matter if you were born poor and worked diligently over years to build a business that provides you with your present level of wealth. No matter if you were born rich and worked hard to sustain and grow the wealth with which you started. This imbalance, of course, leads to an unfair resentment and hatred of the rich. The poor can get away with all sorts of horrors against the rich and the successful, the talented and the intelligent, and when the favored sons strike back, they are chastened. That is wrong. Equal means equal. If the rich are to be despised and the poor are able to strike them on a daily basis in innumerable ways, then the rich ought to be able to strike back. And the punishments should reflect the toll of the daily indignities. I say punish the poor even worse. Make them suffer for their petty hatred of the rich, for their nasty, impish wrongful jabs at the rich on a everyday basis."
"And let us not forget about contribution. Ayn Rand may have been a loon, but the truth of the matter is some create wealth and some do not. Those who create wealth -- of whatever kind; art, business, science, political wisdom -- are rare and deserve our protection and admiration. Those who destroy wealth, those who pilfer from the coffers of others, they deserve nothing but our contempt."