Trigger warning: Graphic descriptions of sexual assault. Note: The opinions expressed in this post belong to Sezin Koehler alone and should not be attributed to anyone involved with Project Unbreakable.
Robin Thicke’s summer hit Blurred Lines addresses what he considers to be sounds like a grey area between consensual sex and assault. The images in this post place the song into a real-life context. They are from Project Unbreakable, an online photo essay exhibit, and feature images of women and men holding signs with sentences that their rapist said before, during, or after their assault. Let’s begin.
I know you want it.
Thicke sings “I know you want it,” a phrase that many sexual assault survivors report their rapists saying to justify their actions, as demonstrated over and over in the Project Unbreakable testimonials.
You’re a good girl.
Thicke further sings “You’re a good girl,” suggesting that a good girl won’t show her reciprocal desire (if it exists). This becomes further proof in his mind that she wants sex: for good girls, silence is consent and “no” really means “yes.”
Calling an adult a “good girl” in this context resonates with the the virgin/whore dichotomy. The implication in Blurred Lines is that because the woman is not responding to a man’s sexual advances, which of course are irresistible, she’s hiding her true sexual desire under a facade of disinterest. Thicke is singing about forcing a woman to perform both the good girl and bad girl roles in order to satisfy the man’s desires.
Thicke and company, as all-knowing patriarchs, will give her what he knows she wants (sex), even though she’s not actively consenting, and she may well be rejecting the man outright.
Do it like it hurt, do it like it hurt, what you don’t like work?
This lyric suggests that women are supposed to enjoy pain during sex or that pain is part of sex:
The woman’s desires play no part in this scenario – except insofar as he projects whatever he pleases onto her — another parallel to the act of rape: sexual assault is generally not about sex, but rather about a physical and emotional demonstration of power.
The way you grab me.
Must wanna get nasty.
This is victim-blaming. Everybody knows that if a woman dances with a man it means she wants to sleep with him, right? And if she wears a short skirt or tight dress she’s asking for it, right? And if she even smiles at him it means she wants it, right? Wrong. A dance, an outfit, a smile — sexy or not — does not indicate consent. This idea, though, is pervasive and believed by rapists.
And women, according to Blurred Lines, want to be treated badly.
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you.
He don’t smack your ass and pull your hair like that.
In this misogynistic fantasy, a woman doesn’t want a “square” who’ll treat her like a human being and with respect. She would rather be degraded and abused for a man’s gratification and amusement, like the women who dance around half naked humping dead animals in the music video.
The pièce de résistance of the non-censored version of Blurred Lines is this lyric:
I’ll give you something to tear your ass in two.
What better way to show a woman who’s in charge than violent, non-consensual sodomy?
Ultimately, Robin Thicke’s rape anthem is about male desire and male dominance over a woman’s personal sexual agency. The rigid definition of masculinity makes the man unable to accept the idea that sometimes his advances are not welcome. Thus, instead of treating a woman like a human being and respecting her subjectivity, she’s relegated to the role of living sex doll whose existence is naught but for the pleasure of a man.
In Melinda Hugh’s Lame Lines parody of Thicke’s song she sings, “You think I want it/ I really don’t want it/ Please get off it.” The Law Revue Girls “Defined Lines” response to Blurred Lines notes, “Yeah we don’t want it/ It’s chauvinistic/ You’re such a bigot.” Rosalind Peters says in her one-woman retort, “Let’s clear up something mate/ I’m here to have fun/ I’m not here to get raped.”
There are no “blurred lines.” There is only one line: consent.
And the absence of consent is a crime.
Sezin Koehler is an informal ethnographer and novelist living in Florida. You can find her on Twitter and Facebook.













Comments 2285
Jonathan Harrison — September 17, 2013
The video takes these tendencies even further and arguably eroticizes rape. It is seemingly soft porn with a soundtrack, rather than just music playing with rape porn fantasies.
Warning: misogynistic content
http://www.vevo.com/watch/robin-thicke/blurred-lines-unrated-version/USUV71300526
Jonathan Harrison — September 17, 2013
To clarify, I now see that the link to the same video is already in the article. However, I think my extra commentary is accurate.
READER200 — September 17, 2013
Ok, this may just be me, but am I the only person who interpreted "Blurred Lines" as a song about a person trying to get someone to cheat? The singer is saying "I know you want it", because he/she is trying to make the other person fool around with them
Wayne Johnson — September 17, 2013
Sorry but I hear it as cheesy egotistical seduction, not rape. To be honest as an outsider to heterosexuality, this is what they sound like pretty much all the time. Chicks love this stuff. When I watch, it turns my stomach to see guys speaking so highly of themselves, but I see women responding very favorably to it. But it just doesn't sound like rape:
I feel so lucky you wanna hug me
Hit me up when you pass through
I'm just watching and waitin' for you
Not many women can refuse this
I'm a nice guy but don't get confused.
No more pretending
Cause now you're winning
Here's our beginning
I always wanted a good girl
The Times — September 17, 2013
sex
The Times — September 17, 2013
I knew lots of women who like their ass smacked and their hair pulled. Why assume he's saying every single women likes to be treated badly? Why is smacking ass and pulling hair necessarily treating a woman badly? Many of your points are logically flawed and desperately reaching for conclusions you obviously want to draw.
Fred — September 17, 2013
This picture says all you need to know about Robin Thicke.
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/robin-thicke-grabs-fan-behind-vmas-after-party-article-1.1441323
Richard — September 17, 2013
I
thought that the blurred lines were between whether or not you should
cheat on your partner? I fully get that there's problematic lyrics that
exist within a wider rape culture (i.e. our own culture), and yes "death
of the author" allows us to consider the actual effects of the actual
words, but to say that Robin Thicke thinks there's a grey area between
consensual sex and assault is insulting, IMO.
ShaBerry14 — September 17, 2013
this is really ridiculous. I like READER200 interpreted the song as someone cheating. not a rapist song. its not that serious. I know you want it has so many meanings. stop trying to make the song something that its not.
Erisa Desu — September 17, 2013
seriously some people have too much time on their hands..and no common sense at all...who did they manage to misinterpret the song like this is mystery for me.
Vp024 — September 17, 2013
is there anything we cant blow out of proportion....this is ridiculous....yall should be protesting rick ross' lines in UOENO....he blatantly talks about rap. this song is about being drunk and finding a one night stand to cheat with...plain and simple. stop over thinking shit.
Vp024 — September 17, 2013
rape*
Jessica Conifer — September 17, 2013
I am not sure if I agree with your interpretation of this song, but I think it's disgusting and misogynistic, I'm sick of this crap. Reading through the lyrics to his song, this is my response: First, exactly what line is blurred? If it is, as the rest of the song suggests, whether or not you are going to have sex with a woman then there is nothing "blurry" about that... if it's not yes then it's no. Now to the lyrics... no women is an animal, no woman needs to be domesticated, "taking" a woman is aggressive and yes rapey, "you're a good girl" is a creepy thing to say something a pervert says to a child, the only way you know a woman "wants it" is if she SAYS so, "grabbing" you doesn't mean anything if she says no to sex, stop calling women bitches. Then comes the weird sexual violence... he's going to "give you something big enough to tear your ass in two" and pulling my hair and smacking my ass?-- are you serious? do it like it hurt? What is wrong with these guys? Whether they intended to or not, their song is FULL of things rapists and child molesters say to their victims. Also he is quoted as saying "People say, 'Hey, do you think this is degrading to women?' I'm like, 'Of course it is. What a pleasure it is to degrade a woman. I've never gotten to do that before. I've always respected women.' " a pleasure to degrade women?
Kirsten — September 17, 2013
I'd suggest posting the entire lyrics before you critique a song. Pulling three lines out of a song isn't investigative.
1. This song is about getting a girl to cheat. Look at the chorus.
2. "I know you want it" is a broad phrase that rapists use and so do sexual partners of consenting nature. The difference is if the recipient agrees with the statement.
3. There is this issue where you presume to know all people's sexual fantasies and if they do not line up with what you deem is acceptable, you shun them with the idea of misogyny. Pain shouldn't be a requisite for sex for women, but if a person enjoys pain, then they should be allowed to experience it during sex without judgement of being less than. Not everyone enjoys soft sex and you can't label all rough sex as rape.
Overall: Know your sexual partner. Consent is the biggest issue. Not all rough sex is rape, what makes it rape is lack of consent.
Anna — September 17, 2013
Sociology is a discipline that should call out other media outlets on their sensationalism and intellectual dishonest tactics, not participate in them. Sexually suggestive or even sexually aggressive lyrics do not equate rape lyrics. This article uses disgusting and manipulative tactics to reify the song into being what its author wants it to be about.
This is the sort of mindframe that gets literary classics banned from libraries. This is a form of hysteria that, when endorsed a blog run by a purported ACADEMIC, legitimately contributes to the regression of society. Two intellectually dishonest and downright intellectually stunted articles within the space of a few days, wow. Sociological Images is just trolling us now.
Lola — September 17, 2013
He's a ming mong and the chicks in the video look dull as dishwater.
#GFY — September 17, 2013
Are you (unwanted) fucking serious?
Because unwanted fucking is serious, as was so verbosely reiterated in this banal piece of journalism.
Jonathan Harrison — September 17, 2013
She's a "good girl" who is wearing jeans and dressing casual, but the singer still assumes she's up for some rough sex. She's doing nothing in the song to suggest she's up for sex, let alone rough sex. Isn't this where rape fantasy starts: the guy projecting desires on to the woman that she is not actually experiencing?
Discord — September 17, 2013
To everyone discussing what the song is "about"... you're missing the point. Any analysis of a song, or any other cultural artefact, that begins and ends with what a song is ostensibly "about" is a childishly simplistic waste of time. Regardless of whether Thicke consciously intended the song to be about cheating, or playing hard to get, or ping-pong, or kittens, or even whether the majority of the audience hears it as being a song about those things, is irrelevant. The article quite clearly demonstrates that the attitudes inherent in the song are linked to ideologies of power, of male domination of women, of the sexualization of violence, and destructive myths about what women secretly want and deserve. These ideologies are directly linked to the ideologies of rapists, as starkly evidenced by how disturbingly similar certain lines in the song are to actual words spoken by rapists to their victims.
On the surface, the song may appear to be "about" (ugh) convincing someone to consensually cheat, but look at what else it's saying:
"Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you.
He don’t smack your ass and pull your hair like that."
Women like to be hurt in sex. Violence and sex are linked.
"The way you grab me.
Must wanna get nasty."
If a woman wears certain things or acts in a certain way that the man perceives as "sexy", then that must mean she wants to have sex.
"I know you want it"
Women may say 'no,' but they secretly want sex regardless. It's the man's role to decide for her what she wants, regardless of what she says, and coerce her until she admits what she secretly wants.
So you see, we're not talking about what scenario the song is literally describing. We are talking about the logical outcomes of the problematic attitudes that these lines demonstrate. If it's OK for a man to decide for a woman what she "wants," whether she's saying yes or not, then it's OK for a man to rape her if he believes she secretly wants it. That's the logical conclusion of the attitude the song displays.
God, I wish media literacy and critical thinking was taught in schools. Most people don't have the first clue about how to disseminate a text.
wishfulthinker — September 17, 2013
'People say, "Hey, do you think this is degrading to women?" I'm like, "Of course it is. What a pleasure it is to degrade a woman. I've never gotten to do that before. I've always respected women."' --Robin Thicke on Blurred Lines, GQ blog, 5/7/13
moonwork42029 — September 17, 2013
I
like the song...Think "50 Shades of Gray" and go with that line of
thinking ... not everyone wants "vanilla" -- and that doesn't make them a
bad person -- of course this is my humble opinion. I don't see anything rapist about this song and yes I have read the lyrics several times. Some people "do" have a "good girl" image but yearn for something different -- again that doesn't speak of rape...just different. I'm a 54 yr old woman with children and a happy marriage and great love life. I've also suffered abuse when I was younger so I CAN understand what some victims say and feel -- I just don't think this song talks about that.
Madeline — September 17, 2013
I completely agree with this analysis, but I'd feel a little more comfortable if there were a printed statement that the Project Unbreakable photos were used with permission.
merpderp — September 17, 2013
I'm seeing a bunch of shit about how words like "I know you want it" don't count as rapey because he's trying to get her to cheat. Saying "no, I have a boyfriend" is sayING YOU DO NOT CONSENT TO TALKING TO THEM ANYMORE. Should you then continue to be like "Gurrrl he's a square, I know you want it" to some girl, that girl should then go to the bouncer and get you kicked out because guess what? You're being effing rapey.
Sam — September 17, 2013
Haha Robin is really popular with the ladies ;)
Chester the Molestor — September 17, 2013
I'm really sorry for the victims involved in and clearly "used" by whatever organization did this, but this song is not about Rape you morons. your the ones putting the thought and past trauma into theses victims minds. Using a popular song is embarrassing hahaha.
Yolanda Rivera — September 17, 2013
i have to say, that i always felt like this is a song about chewting NOT RAPE. and it annoys me that is is considered rapey. i likw rough sex. their i said it. im not any less a femanist for it. i think rape should be punishable by death. i truely do. the women before the rape dies and becomes a new person. i like being put over a a knee and spanked (consentially. i had a boyfriend who wouldnt do this because it felt rapey, yet pulled the just the tip date rape s@#T with someone i know two years later)
i like my hair pulled. i like KINY SEX. its not rapey because i in fact WANT IT. i want to be tied up and banged. and i refuse to feel that that is objectivfiing myself. because i will turn around and do the same things to him. this song is not rapey
words can be totally different depending on context and situation
"that a beautiful little girl" from one mother to another in the playground is sweet
from a creepy man its a reason to keep that person far away from you child
finally i understand how a woman who heard those things in her rape could find this awful. lafdies i am truely sorry that this song brings back those feeling. feel free to send hate mail. and tell me im insensative to your trauma. but for me its a song about a man wanting me to ditch a guy whoi is not suited to my sexual tastes for a less vanilla sex life.
femPOW — September 17, 2013
One of the women in the video clearly has a stop sign on her ass. Am I the only one who noticed that?!
Ratty — September 17, 2013
Eh...
the part of masochism really didn't set well with me. I like pain, I
like to be treated rough and to have my hair pulled, it doesn't mean I
want to be (legitimately) abused or degraded.... Kink shaming is kind
of... not cool.
However,
the rest of this was spot on and a really eye-opening look on why this
song DOES sound a bit rape-y. There are never blurred lines when it
comes to consent and if there are, fucking clarify instead of
automatically assuming it's cool.
Passerina — September 17, 2013
This post is a bit manipulative.
The quotes the rape survivors are holding up are horrifying. Most of the quotes wouldn't be nearly as terrifying if you didn't know that they were said to these people as they were being raped, though. So the context is very important.
Given this, I can't really compare these statements to the lines of a song taken entirely out of context.
Ebony Way — September 17, 2013
BRB eternally vomiting
Ken — September 17, 2013
Most of these women complaining just need a good fucking to chill the fuck out.
Passerina — September 17, 2013
IMO, the song is a parody of male arrogance. He trumpets his sexual prowess ('truly pimpin') & his penis size ('big enough to tear your ass in two'). He's so over-confident that he can't imagine that any woman would want to refuse him, even someone who already has a boyfriend. The 'blurred lines' refer to his difficulty figuring out if she is just flirting with him (since she's there with another guy) or if she actually wants to have sex with him.
This is all ridiculous/pathetic, but it isn't rape. He says that he's 'big enough' to tear her ass in two, not that he is going to. He asks her if he can 'be the one she backs her ass up to' -- which is a lot different than threatening to stick it in her ass. This is a just a creepy guy pretending to be smooth.
When I first heard the song and saw the video, I thought it was entirely tongue-in-cheek. This sleazy-looking guy WISHES scantily-clad women were rubbing up against him. Now that I know more about Robin Thicke I'm starting to think he really IS the ridiculous guy he's singing about. Still, I don't think this song is about the gray area between consensual sex and assault. As stupid as it is for him to think that ALL women want to have sex with him, he's not participating in rape culture as long as he is 'watching and waiting' for all the ladies to 'hit him up'. He'll just be waiting a long time ...
MJS — September 17, 2013
"The pièce de résistance of the non-censored version of Blurred Lines is this lyric:
'I’ll give you something to tear your ass in two.'
What better way to show a woman who’s in charge than violent, non-consensual sodomy?"
Most of the lines in this article are taken out of context and interpreted in generally unfair ways, but with this one the article ventures into willful dishonesty. The real line is "So, hit me up when you pass through / I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two."
If she dosen't want something "big enough to tear [her] ass in two" he's obviously not forcing her to "hit him up." Its plainly an invitation and not a threat, but the article deliberately distorts that by omitting the first line. It's a straight up lie of omission to interpret that as "violent, non-consensual sodomy."
epaR — September 17, 2013
Lol this entire video was directed by a woman, and the idea for the women being topless came from Thicke's wife. Stay deluded, feminists. Also, the girls in this photo series are hideous, but what would you expect?
Karen Barclay — September 17, 2013
I think Robin Thicke looks creepy in the video - but the song is about cheating & he's waiting for the girl to make the first move, but it's not happening so he's wondering if he's reading the signals wrong & that's the blurred line he hates. I don't think he'd bother singing 'that man is not your maker' if he was just going to attack her.
A guy who hates rapists — September 17, 2013
Has it crossed anyone's minds that maybe this song is just about turning a good girl dirty? Like a girl who wants to have sex, but is inexperienced and Thicke says he'll teach her how to be dirty? OR maybe he's saying he can realease the bad girl in someone (in regards to the social stigma of what a good girl is)?
georgia — September 17, 2013
Does everyone just conveniently ignore the lyrics where he's asking her for consent
"One thing I ask of you
Let me be the one you back that ass to"
It's a song about rough sex and getting high, along with the blurred lines of bdsm play "I'm a nice guy but you wont get that in bed"
There are massive subtle tones of him asking for consent, but driven wild with urges that he wont act on unless she permits him to
"be the one you[she] back['s] that ass to"
snakeguy — September 17, 2013
These are, at BEST, intentional mis-representations of the song. At worst they are using rape survivors to score cheap political points.
Emdawg — September 17, 2013
I keep reading that the lyrics to this song are 'rapist's words'. The thing is, rapists use the same words as everyone else. Words are shaped by meaning, and by intent, action, and reaction.
We can't pretend that rapists draw on their own special vocabulary. Nor can we pretend that phrases like 'I know you want it' have no place in anyone's consensual sex life. Or that pulling a woman's hair or spanking her always equates to degradation and can never be coupled with respect.
I think Project Unbreakable is an amazing and powerful project. I think this post misses the mark.
allisha — September 17, 2013
Wow! The women in this online photographic essay exhibit are so strong and brave!
mlm — September 17, 2013
I can't thank you enough for posting this piece Sezin. I'm a disenchanted photographer, and the photos reminded me of how photography can be inspire thought, if not social change. I have an adolescent son who doesn't understand the lyrics. It's high time I explain what he's hearing. I have a daughter - much younger but already showing signs of self-consciousness about her physical appearance. And I'm a 21st Century human being in the vortex of the self-serving media machine - a machine that I myself have helped create - that manufactures the endless masturbatory and violent data stream from which the first world cannot disconnect.
Most of all, thank you to the women whose photos appear above.
liz — September 17, 2013
I think this song is extremely problematic. This interpretation is as valid as many others. One of (but surely not the only, I'm not suggesting that) the problems is that since this dominant script is so accepted (aka no means yes etc.) a lot of women play into the patriarchy. I know when I was young, I used to tease men much in the way depicted in this song. Women are socialized to be demure and pretend they don't want sex, so that when they are willingly overpowered by a man, it does not impede on their "purity". Although the domineering attitude represented in the song is not "right", i think it is important to note that there are women who do play along with this discourse, particularly because it is advantageous to them in terms of adhering to social norms. Men are not given clear signals from women frequently, not to blame the women, because they are not taught to GIVE clear signals. As someone who has been sexually assaulted, I can say that I also have given mixed signals to people who I've wanted to be intimate with. I know a ton of women who like it when MEN THEY ARE INTERESTED IN force themselves on them, but it must be hard for men to really tell the difference either way i would imagine. And I'm sure I'll be called a rape apologist or something but I just think the issue is incredibly complicated. It this sexual fantasy of the man overcoming the women's purity (or if indeed women we not expected to be pure and virginal in the 1st place) was not so widely disseminated then I don't think songs like this would exist. I really don't think Robin Thicke meant any harm... he was just repeating common societal epitaphs... but then again... I'm fucking wasted so... take it with a grain of salt. I just feel a little responsible because I have provoked men before intentionally by trying to be a tease and acting all innocent when I wanted sex... but I have also been in bad situations. Society tells women that they SHOULD act like this, and it must be hard for men to tell who is acting the part of the virginal whore (the lolita or the katy perry or whatever), and who actually wants none of their business
Marie — September 17, 2013
I can see how people can interpret it this way, but that's not the way this song reads to me at all. I adore this song. I've studied music and text in college. It makes me think of how my boyfriend of nearly three years and I got together. I was and still am a 'good girl,' I flirt and send sexual messages through body language, 'the way you grab me, must wanna get nasty', EXACTLY. I will touch and grab guys I like but I would never come out say something outlandish. I flirted, and he took the initiative to move things forward, like I wanted him to. Guys to have you do all the work are boring. I don't like guys who are so respectful that they aren't any fun. I LOVE it when my boyfriend spanks me when he walks by, it's a COMPLIMENT. I am young, I love playful and rough sex; I pull his hair, and he pulls mine. "I feel so lucky, you wanna hug me," I hugged him frequently so express my desire for him and he felt like the luckiest guy in the world when we got together.
It's sexual, it's playful, and it's true to my life story.
It's not a rape song to me in anyway.
Simba711 — September 17, 2013
BL is NOT, NOT, NOT about rape, period. Jesus freaking Christ! It's about a guy trying to hook up with a lady who's also attracted to him.
Sam — September 17, 2013
To all the people saying, 'the song isn't about sex, it's about convincing a woman to cheat', I think you're forgetting that coerced sex is still defined as rape.
Jessie — September 17, 2013
I think some of the lyrics in this song are problematic, but this article goes significantly overboard. "I know you want it" is the most disturbing just because it implies this sort of she doesn't have to say yes to mean yes idea.
But I don't think "He don't smack your ass and pull your hair like that" implies that women want to be treated as sub-human. Lots of women enjoy that sort of thing in perfectly healthy relationships.
I think if we take realistic look at this song, it is certainly not a "rape anthem". It does continue a problematic line of thinking that most people think is just light hearted ( I am a very confident, attractive man.I think this woman is flirting with me, maybe I'll get laid tonight. ) but can be seen by rapists as a confirmation of their twisted way of seeing things (I know she wanted it, even if she didn't say so).
EvilPundit — September 17, 2013
Feminism: the new word for paranoia.
aaauuuugh — September 17, 2013
sign my petition to have "Blurred Lines" banned from the radio http://www.change.org/petitions/fcc-ban-blurred-lines-from-the-radio
Disgusted — September 18, 2013
This page disgusts me. The things that those rapists did and said were horrible and they should be punished. Calling everything rape and freaking out where it is not appropriate encourages people to take rape less seriously. Robin Thicke is a putz, but this song is not about rape. If it were, why would you have to add these statements by scum rapists, and why not just have people write his lyrics on paper instead? Let's go after rape, but don't go chasing where it is not, lest people should stop taking you seriously.
Art Davis — September 18, 2013
I think everyone is mad at the wrong people here. Robin Thicke obviously did not mean to put a bunch of lyrics that reminded women of brutal rape. He obviously would not release a song where he was literally saying that women want to be raped. It is just. Freakin. Obvious that he didn't mean to do those things.
But ok - they're there. Yes, that's some rapey stuff there. Like, seriously, is he retarded? But the point remains that he still didn't mean to do it. When asked about this song, Thicke even directly states how the song actually got written - he dug the groove of another song and basically put out his own version of it in homage to it. In 30 minutes, this song was written and recorded. The lyrics are clearly spat out of his brain's tailpipe like a horse shitting on a parade route. Thrown out and forgotten, not important.
so where did they really come from? And there's what you should really be upset about. This stuff didn't appear when robin thicke wrote this song. They're so ubiquitous, so common, so EVERYWHERE that they just fell out of this dude's brain in 30 minutes and he didn't even notice he was singing about raping women. He somehow ACCIDENTALLY wrote an entire song about how much fun rape is. That's a pretty scary thing, to see rape culture shoved into pop culture with such zeal, and have it be so popular.
But let's not pretend he did it on purpose, yeah?
David Heslin — September 18, 2013
For the love of God, can we please move on from discussing this terrible song? The dunderheads who wrote it could never have hoped for this much publicity (er, sorry, 'controversy').
I don't pretend to understand what goes on in the heads of people who populate 'song'-writing committee meetings, but has anyone thought to point out that if this mediocre song were really about rape, Thickhead would be singing "I hate these clearly-defined lines"? Anyone?
David Heslin — September 18, 2013
I think everybody's favourite sex-positive feminist pretty much nailed this (I hope it's OK quoting this in its entirety):
http://pervocracy.tumblr.com/post/60448022425/i-know-lit-veryones-been-in-a-tizzy-over-this-so-i
"I think it’s a sleazy sex song, no different than 8 million other sleazy sex songs. Maybe I’m missing something, but it just seems like an addition to the large and venerable musical canon of “I see you are my preferred gender, so let us vigorously mate.” It’s not an exceptionally offensive entry in that genre (if only because the competition is so often spectacularly offensive), but it’s also sure as hell not a sex-positive manifesto.
I feel a bit morally bankrupt thinking “it ignores consent and perpetuates good girl/bad girl dichotomies and the video has clothed men and naked women and all this is sold as sexual liberation, but that’s just the industry standard,” but that’s kind of where I’m at.
I guess, to put that more productively: I don’t want to criticize the song in any way that makes it sound like this particular song is the problem, instead of the whole culture that produced it and made these lyrics not just acceptable but unexceptional."
Malique Fox — September 18, 2013
Lmao first they were saying his song "love after war" is condoning beating women now he is condoning rape in "blurred lines".
Bianca — September 18, 2013
I'm not sure if this was Robin Thicke's intention or not. However, the lyrics are disturbing. Visit my blog where I explore variations of sexual violence http://whataboutourvoice.wordpress.com/
Ur dumb — September 18, 2013
Sorry but this is a complete over analazation of lyrics from a song that they put next actual rapists quotes to make it seem like that was his intent. The same could be done with sooo many songs! Even songs by female artists feature this same stuff, in the lyrics and music videos. Ex. Rihanna's s&m (yes I remembered the lyrics haha)
Tesla9892 — September 18, 2013
All the men who responded...go use your manly wisdom to educate prospective rapists.
All the women who disagreed...go hang with the men who responded.
That would be you women who aid and abet and support rape, and of course some women rape as well.
Y'all are a lot of opinionated asshats who....
#1 have probably never been raped, or
#2 have no empathy or humanity left.
It's a piece of crap commercialized song meant to lure the masses.
It has one job and that is of art imitating life.
The article had one job....showing a connection.
Self righteous and pretentious snobs irritate me.
I'm no scholar, but I'm not an idiot either.
Alie — September 18, 2013
such a jerk!! and people are listening to this song... He is clearly insulting women integrity...
FrankiePepper — September 18, 2013
Just curious as to why commenters think it's ok if the song is about cheating. He's trying to talk her into cheating (if the song is not about forcing sex) but isn't cheating sex anyway? So, if he is trying to talk her into sex, cheating-or-rape. It's the same thing. He is trying to talk her into having sex she doesn't want.
If she did want it he wouldn't have to be talking her into it...
Thomas Roberts — September 18, 2013
my dad called my three year old sister a good girl after she ate her breakfast and didn't throw it around the kitchen. Sick bastard
Thomas Roberts — September 18, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruYB0mfakpQ another song with the line "i know you want it" rapist? Believe me having read over the lyrics there is a lot more then three lines in this song. If I had the time I here what I would do is find the 10 most respected feminists in history, take three lines of theirs out of context and make it appear as if they themselves uphold patriarchal values. Of course I don't have the time to do this, and quoting people out of context to support an over zealous argument is something I leave for the ignorant to play with. When did people stop actually thinking and just start justifying their own gut reactions.
peter radford — September 18, 2013
why on earth are you pedants dancing on the head of an intellectual pin!! this article nails some very disturbing messages. It also staggers me the all the criticism for that part of the show were laid at hey feet for provocative dancing etc.... I have read almost nothing condemning the mysoginistic violent lyrics of the stupid man singing ...wake up and get out more !!
gepa — September 18, 2013
this is absolutely off base and I'm personally astounded at the attention this song, of all disgusting and chauvinist tunes in popular media, has received for lyrics that are really PG in comparison to some contemporaries. I think the word I'm looking for is...bandwagon.
too much — September 18, 2013
I find this article far more offensive and distasteful than the song. You could make anything look bad by comparing cherry picked lines and words to something so awful. And to use victims photographs and experiences in this way to vindicate your opinion, is absolutely immoral.
I am not an academic, I don't have a lot of fancy words at my disposal to make my argument - but the fact is none of you know definitively what this song is about, and everything you are saying, regardless of how cleverly you dress it up, is opinion. Things are misinterpreted every day. Many of you keep coming back to the title. Just because it is called Blurred Lines, does not mean they are speaking of the blurred lines between consentual sex and rape. Many women like to be sexualised in this way, and many women enjoy being spanked and having their hair pulled during sex - and many of those women are 'upstanding members of the community' and are well dressed and well spoken (ie. good girls). Perhaps this is what he is referring to by blurred lines. Many women are bored of their sex lives and want someone who will "rough them up a bit" in the bedroom and would like to use drugs recreationally and sexually. Maybe this is what he is referring to - that some women enjoy this kind of behaviour. I have a friend who enjoys being tied and slapped and often is left with bruises during sex, but if a man were to ever hit her out of the bedroom she would report him. The fact is, this sort of thing is very popular in role play and fantasy, and is entirely consensual between the two parties. Because of this there will always be 'blurred lines' between the language and behaviour used between two consenting partners interested in a dominant/submissive relationship, and the things said to victims by their rapists, but they are used in very different ways - one is used for pleasure for both, one is used for pain and power. You can disagree with the terminology used, and you can even disagree with the lifestyle choice that this sort of sex goes on, but to label the song a "rape anthem" is utterly ridiculous and thoroughly irresponsible - in my humble, uneducated opinion.
Lo — September 18, 2013
Ridiculous article. Over analyse anything and you'll find fault somewhere
Anon — September 18, 2013
First of all, Women do like to be degraded and treated horribly. That's why girls chase/date/fuck complete douche bags and ignore nice guys. Girls can be just as shallow as men. tttoo bad the feminist who wrote this article thinks rape only happens to women.
kaosethema — September 18, 2013
''If you liked it then you should've put a ring on it''
''You're slowly making me pay for things; Your money should be handling''
''Can you pay my bills?;Can you pay my telephone bills?;Do you pay my automo' bills?;If you did then maybe we could chill;I don't think you do;So, you and me are through''
jimrhill — September 18, 2013
Great message. Thanks for posting it, as it's a must read for people of all ages.
Illage Vidiot — September 18, 2013
By themselves, the complete lyrics of the song read like the backstory of a lively episode of the Jerry Springer show. And that's not even my opinion; it's a fact!
And if not for the song's inexplicable popularity it would almost certainly have been largely ignored as the narcissistic rantings of a drunk and horny (and functionally-illiterate) cheeseball with entitlement issues.
Chad Durnford — September 18, 2013
I think this is over reaction to the song. I don't like the song personally but there isn't anything in the lyrics that suggest rape. Remember people context is everything. If you spin doctor this song in this way yes it seems like rape culture but if spin this song another way it sounds like a subversive sexualized song, that some people may like. Some people have strange sexual desires, like domination, rough sex etc, but lets not make it a witch hunt on music.
Dakota Davis — September 18, 2013
If you don't see how this song suggests rape, you probably haven't been raped. My rapist said several lines that are verbatim from this song and I am absolutely sure I didn't want it. Consent is not blurry, it is not grey, it is a definite yes or no, every single time. And as a rape survivor, the comments on this article are really fucking scary since apparently nearly none of you know what rape is.
tessa.mahone — September 18, 2013
Oh wow. Ok. So, first off - my SO and I have enjoyed a very healthy, respectful relationship for the last four years.
That said, We enjoy sex. A lot. The rough kind. We often play a game of reluctance, because there's something sexy about a man exerting his masculinity and making you feel needed and desired. He frequently tells me what a "good girl" I am and we like to play that I'm uninterested or upset with him, and he works away at me trying to get me to give in. We use a lot of dirty talk, and sometimes it could be perceived as violent and on occasion he's been known to put his hands around my neck. (never painful, just forceful.) He smacks my a** and he pulls my hair - at my request.
That was all very personal, but who are you to say that's wrong? Why is it that it is automatically assumed his lyrics are about rape? We are so hypersensitive about every minute detail these days. And in a sense, we sort of need to be. There's a lot of awful things going on in the world, and we need to be aware and proactive about it. Rape and rape culture are huge issues, and I think it's great that a focus has been placed on them. However I think crucifying Robyn Thicke over lyrics to an admittedly catchy song is wrong. Not everything remotely sexual or male-centric has to be labeled "rapey."
This is not a rape anthem, and it kind of scares me that you are so quick to label it as such.
You're right, there is a very defined difference between consensual sex and assault. I think this is a catchy tune, that talks about a playful sexual relationship between two people. The video does not glorify rape. It's showcasing young women enjoying their sexuality and men admiring them as well as a playful interaction between the two of them. Just because something does not look "fun" to you, doesn't mean it isn't to someone else. Hey, skydiving's not my thing but I'm not condemning anyone else for it.
hornacek — September 18, 2013
Oh give me a break!
Hrh Mortimer — September 18, 2013
So, are you telling me that for the last 27,000 years we modern humans have been on this Earth, women have NEVER wanted to have sex?
tessa.mahone — September 18, 2013
If we analyzed other songs the way we've done to this one, the Barney theme song would turn into an anthem about Charles Manson.
"I love you, you love me,
We're a great big family"
- clearly Barney has abducted a young girl, and is forcing her into a familial cult.
"with a great big hug
and a kiss from me to you"
- here comes the rapey vibes!
"wont you say you love me too?"
- Talk about threatening! "say you love me or else!"
Chelsea — September 18, 2013
"Shut the fuck up."
Lauren — September 18, 2013
[Intro: Pharrell]
Everybody get up
Everybody get up
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
[Verse 1: Robin Thicke]
If you can't hear what I'm trying to say
If you can't read from the same page
Maybe I'm going deaf,
Maybe I'm going blind
Maybe I'm out of my mind
[Pharell:] Everybody get up
[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker
[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
[Pharell:] Everybody get up
[Verse 2: Robin Thicke]
What do they make dreams for
When you got them jeans on
What do we need steam for
You the hottest bitch in this place
I feel so lucky
Hey, hey, hey
You wanna hug me
Hey, hey, hey
What rhymes with hug me?
Hey, hey, hey
[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker
Hey, hey, hey
[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
[Pharell:] Everybody get up
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I hate them lines
I know you want it
I hate them lines
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
[Verse 3: T.I.]
One thing I ask of you
Let me be the one you back that ass to
Go, from Malibu, to Paris, boo
Yeah, I had a bitch, but she ain't bad as you
So hit me up when you passing through
I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two
Swag on, even when you dress casual
I mean it's almost unbearable
In a hundred years not dare, would I
Pull a Pharside let you pass me by
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that
So I just watch and wait for you to salute
But you didn't pick
Not many women can refuse this pimpin'
I'm a nice guy, but don't get it if you get with me
[Bridge: Robin Thicke]
Shake the vibe, get down, get up
Do it like it hurt, like it hurt
What you don't like work?
[Pre-chorus: Robin Thicke]
Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
No more pretending
Hey, hey, hey
Cause now you winning
Hey, hey, hey
Here's our beginning
[Chorus: Robin Thicke]
I always wanted a good girl
(Pharell: Everybody get up)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
You're a good girl
Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
(Pharell: Everybody get up)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty
Go ahead, get at me
[Outro: Pharrell]
Everybody get up
Everybody get up
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey,hey
Lauren — September 18, 2013
People dissect this song like people dissect the bible. You take lines out of context and they're horrible. You read the whole song and it's about an apparently handsy girl talking to guy who doesn't think this woman shod be forced into domestication. He compliments the girl by saying she's far from
Plastic (meaning she's her own woman). What's wrong with that? Of she's all over him like the song states, is it really a wrong assumption to think she wants it? I've said I know you want it to men. They did, so did I. There are hundreds of rap songs a million times worse than this but no one throws a fit about them. What is it about this particular song? I don't find it offensive. Go read some Lil Wayne lyrics, you wanna talk about tape culture.
Really? — September 18, 2013
I've got an idea... if you don't like the song, don't listen to it.
Larry Charles Wilson — September 18, 2013
Is Deconstructionism a popular theory in Sociology?
Meta moosel — September 18, 2013
The song isn't even worth picking apart. You may as well pick corn out of poop as it would be slightly more interesting. The song and most of the songs today are reflecting a mile wide inch deep culture that glorifies self indulgent behavior and that has no real respect of anything outside of the self. I would agree that the song glorifies the superficiality of partying till you puke and trying to get a piece of ass in the process. Even going so far as to justify sexual assault. Even IF the song is trying to make some point it is lost in the sewer trap that is pop culture today and the entertainment media that consumes it like a Big Mac and getting really constipated on it later. Yikes I just realized I'm making a lot of poop references. Apologies, I just cannot separate the music today and crap. Oh well,back to life.
Danielle — September 18, 2013
"Hit Me Up When You Pass Through, I'll Give You Something Big Enough To Tear Your Ass In To" This Line Much Like The Whole Song Can Be interpreted In Many Ways, But I See it As A Pick Up line, A Poor One But Not An Initiation Of Rape? Most Music Is About Sex And WelcomeTo TheRe World Where Not Every One Is A Die Hard Fan Of The Missionary Position, Sex In This Day And Age Is About More Than Just Procreating, Lets Not Deny That Some People Believe "Chains And Whips Excite Me.. I Like IT Come On" Even The Scorpions Just Wanted To "Rock You like A Hurricane" And Lets Be Honest Those Things Destroy Entire Towns, Not Just Your Ass In Two. "Your A Good Girl" We'll Then Our mothers And Fathers Are Terrible People Because I Was A Good Girl, So Is My Female Dog? "Nothing Like Your Last Guy" Lets Be Honest We've All Had A Star Fish In Bed, Easy On The Eyes But Useless In Bed. In Conclusion, "I'm Gonna Slide It In Right To The Top Slide It In I Ain't Ever Gonna Stop I'm Gonna Slide It In Slide It In Slide In"
Kaie — September 18, 2013
I would like to also throw this thought into the mix, Thicke has alleged he wrote this about his wife... I wonder if consent has been discussed in any detail between them, or whether he truly does believe there is no such thing as rape within a marriage (e.g. consent has been apparently given during the wedding vows)? There IS a difference between role play, or consensual transgression of sexual norms, and rape or sexual assault and this difference is written within the law.
I personally find the lyrics difficult to accept as I have worked with many women who have experienced rape and domestic violence... This kind of lyric, whether intentional or not, can be both reflective and influence what is deemed "ok" by the general public. I love the beat and the sound of the song, it was just a shame the lyrics were not on par.
Ross Kingsley — September 18, 2013
From Fifty Shades of Grey, a popular book read by millions of women:
“He grabs me suddenly and yanks me up against him, one hand at my back holding me to him and the other fisting in my hair.
"You're one challenging woman," He kisses me, forcing my lips apart with his tongue, taking no prisoners.
"It's
taking all my self-control not to fuck you on the hood of this car,
just to show you that you're mine, and if I want to buy you a fucking
car, I'll buy you a fucking car," he growls.”
- and this is what women love to read FYI
#lookatthewholepicture
realist83 — September 18, 2013
This is just a writer needing to get paid, and picking apart certain lyrics from a song to prove her point. I don't personally like the song, but the furthest thing from my mind was rape when I heard it. Rape is not a game, it's not funny, it's serious and horrible and I am in no way condoning the lyrics. Let's be real though, how many other songs can lyrics be picked from and put in this same context?
Survivor — September 18, 2013
Thank you so much for writing this article. You have no idea how very much it means to me. Seeing the overwhelming support and positives responses to it makes me feel so much better. I know a world filled with victim-blaming morons, and it feels so good to see that people do know better. And, scarily, yes the words to this song are pretty exact to what actual rapists say to their victims... I, and many others, know this all too well.
amale — September 18, 2013
Im sorry and not an fan of a lot of Thicke's music but GTFOH with that bullish!!! It was a song and if you asked the author of the song did they intend what the author of this post is implying and using his work as an example or for their fodder to further there own ambition he'd be floored. This blog was essentially intellectual exercise... well a waste of time.
Henry W — September 18, 2013
Lets not make it too complicated. If the media serves you filth, either you eat it and suffer, or reject it for something more nourishing. Ex. I don't eat McDonalds, why would I eat that stuff? Science has revealed the processed materials and chemicals that make up that "food". I don't listen to rape anthems, why would I? Your own conscience should drive your actions, and if your conscience accepts rape as ok, our discussion is over.
Reenie — September 18, 2013
I'm just going to throw this out there:
Both as a woman and as a victim of rape, I have no problem with this song whatsoever. People take things way out of context and try to make a big deal out of something that doesn't need to be "analyzed" for its content.
Grow up, people.
Lilly De Rougemont — September 18, 2013
fuck this article ur all gay- fuck feminism 2k13
KittyNKs — September 18, 2013
As a survivor myself, UNTIL I read this very article, I just liked the song because it's "got a great beat and I can dance to it" now that I've read this article and a number of the comments I like the song because it's " got a great beat and I can dance to it". Anything can trigger a memory, reaction from any tragedy. Let go, believe in yourself and most of all LIVE.
Marissa — September 18, 2013
I find this to be an accurate representation of what Robin Thicke is satirizing. But to assume that his entire being is "rapey" for lack of a better word, is to assume he himself is a misogynist. Unfortunately, there is no way any one person can know WHAT he means unless you ask.
Steve — September 18, 2013
And the oversensative society police are at it once again. Since none of you seem to have any knowledge about or listen to hip hop and understand the true context and point of the song, its hard to take anything you're saying seriously. Not to mention the fact that the media is the one that convinced you this song is about rape, when its not. This song reminds me a lot of the movie "Borat". These guys put it out there for you to purposely and idiotically look into too deeply and misinterpret. It was meant for controversy and to make fun of an oversensative society. On top of that, if you listen to the Robin Thicke interview about it, he is clear about his intentions behind the song. Also, I got 99 Problems but a bitch aint one. I bet you're stupid enough to think that song has something to do with women too.
Chris — September 18, 2013
Yes, because most of us men are so weak-minded that one song will automatically turn us all into serial rapists. I think there's a correlation between having a penis and rape. Let's ban those too!
ams — September 18, 2013
Completely disagree with this angle, you could pick apart any lyric from any song to satisfy your view. This is a fun catchy song and Robin Thicke is not a rapist.
Newidea — September 18, 2013
I think that the analysis of the song is unnecessary. The point that I think that should be grabbed is that girls get raped, and that's bad. From this point we hopefully get reinvigorated to try to change the thought processes that allow for rape to occur.
P.S. Hey maybe Thicke was being satirical? Perhaps that would be an interesting discussion instead of people getting mad at one another.
P.S.S. It isn't about who is right, it is about agreeing on moral standards that "Hey! Rape is bad and if it is possible to educate future generations to prevent rape then we should all jump on board"
David Quijano — September 18, 2013
Yeah, you could do this with many songs and certainly one's by women about men. Men really need an obnoxious masculinist lobby so the feminists can understand how ridiculous and inconsistent they can be at times. That said, I hate the song and everything it stands for...it just seems like selective outrage to me.
Thomas Roberts — September 18, 2013
This song was banned from an Edinburgh University campus over the supposed issues with consent. Ironic that students from Edinburgh University now are not allowed to consent to listen to this song.... almost as if in an attempt to promote consent in was in fact taken away.
Bachelor of what?! — September 18, 2013
It's a song people. Get the fuck over it. Not everything in this world needs to be deconstructed, seriously people. I don't care how many degrees, bachelor of whatever's you have, or how many big words you can fit into your argument. The fact is, it's just a song, nothing more. If hearing makes you think of people getting raped, change the fucking station, that's what those knobs are for.
Julie — September 18, 2013
The song "Blurred Lines" by Robin Thicke demonstrates to the world that rape is okay and tolerated. This is totally a wrong message altogether to send to the world. We should be praying together and lifting up the name of Jesus and not promoting filthy sin. This is an outrage! What has the world come to today?! People care more about Hollywood and sin than Jesus, I think now more than ever before. Please wake up people and know that there is a God who loves you out there!
Red — September 18, 2013
This man is disgusting and it's whether you believe its about rape or not, its pretty clear to me. That crap will get no air play in my house. None of his music will. This makes the whole Miley Cyrus twerk incident more clear. Thicke probably convinced her it would be fun. Again, the man cares nothing about a woman's self worth. He's a modern day caveman. Club her over the head...drag her by the hair back to his cave, kind of guy.
Doc — September 18, 2013
Oh my god, everyone here is just knowledge wanking all over the place. Honestly. I'm a male rape victim, and I feel that this article is a very good thing. I don't care if some people think it's presented in a way that makes them unhappy, it is spreading awareness about rape culture and the references to it in everyday pop culture. The song is disgusting, creepy, and IMHO it's inexcusable. Not only is it horrid and scary that Thicke wrote a song like this and was quoted afterwards saying that it was fun and exciting doing a piece that intentionally treated women as objects, the scariest part is that after he said this, everyone still uses the song in commercials, shows, etc. Seriously though, if you are just going to pick apart the way the blogger represents it without talking about the actual content, then you really have nothing to say.
ShortynOllie — September 18, 2013
his name is robin... LMAO lame.
Lily — September 18, 2013
A rape anthem? I think this is getting way too out of hand. I can understand if this song isn't your cup of tea, but it's almost ludicrous to think someone could actually put out a song about rape and a majority of people like it. It's a song. If you believe it's a rape anthem....turn it off.
cris725 — September 18, 2013
ya know it is possible for a "good girl" like me to be attracted to a man to point of suggestive body language. its happened to me before. i've had a boring boyfriend that treated me badly and i was too young to figure out how to elegantly get out of the relationship and i met someone that really turned me on and he knew it and he flirted with me continuously and i resisted because i didn't want to cheat. but that doesn't mean he was trying to rape me. in the end, i was showing my interest because i couldn't help it and still not giving in. eventually, i left the boyfriend because he cheated on me.
2Sides — September 18, 2013
And what if the woman being referred to in Thicke's song is a fully aware playful participant in the weekend nightlife scene who very much likes to play the "good girl" role? It's a mistake to assume that all women are immediately victimized in opposite sex interactions and relationships in which the male is the dominant, or "aggressor" in initiating what should always be consensual sexual engagements. Taking that sort of monolithic approach to things can be just as dangerous as assuming that all women are afraid of telling their prospective partners what they want and therefore need to be coerced.
To break it down in real world terms: there are modern women who know very well what the game is and are anxious to play. There is a very real subculture of the female gender that seeks to take hold of their sexuality and their relationships by being an active participant in flirtations and tit for tat exchanges with members of the opposite sex. How far these interactions go often are, and should be, left entirely to the female participant. The men these women are engaging with (at least some of them) aren't stupid and they are fully aware of the signals the woman is sending. They are also aware of the potential dangers of taking things too far or things getting taken out of context, whatever. In other words they are aware of the inherit power women of today have over their bodies and what happens to them. So imagine how confusing that must be. You're flirting with a girl/woman whom you find attractive for hours, she seems receptive and yet she plays coy. Does she want to take it further or not? Who the hell knows, it's a BLURRED LINE.
His video reeks of misogyny with topless women parading around and I for one am not amused or impressed. Yes, sex and violence are absolutely linked in cultures throughout the world. Yes, this fact causes deep wounds and encourages illicit inappropriate if not criminal behaviors on a daily basis. And yes, we must continue to talk about these things so that women and men alike can become empowered and confident in living their lives as human beings and as sexual creatures in safe environments and relationships. But there are some women who like their hair pulled and ass slap during sex, and trying to turn these women into victims or their male partners into perpetrators is a vigilante response to something that's really nobody's damn business.
Lukas Osiris — September 18, 2013
yay internet.
Gayle L. McDowell — September 18, 2013
I get why this song sounds "rape-y" to people. Selected lyrics, taken out of context (or, even better, when said by rapists / rape victims), do sound that way. Of course, to see it as rape-y, you'll have to ignore these lines:
"So I'm just watching and waitin' for you ..." (He's waiting for her to pursue him.)
"Hit me up when you pass through" (He's encouraging her to pursue him.)
"I *hate* these blurred lines" (He hates them. He's not celebrating them or taking advantage up them.)
"Ok, now he was close / Tried to domesticate you / ... That man is not your maker"
"I feel so lucky, you wanna hug me" (Come on, that doesn't sound rape-y. He feels LUCKY that she wants him.)
Re-read the lyrics -- ALL the lyrics -- again, under this interpretation: Robin met a girl who is genuinely attracted to him. However, her ex tried to repress her wild, sexual side and make her into this stereotypical "good girl." Robin is celebrating her wild side and encouraging her to pursue him.
THAT is what the song is about. It's not a rape anthem at all.
Suni — September 18, 2013
And here I was pissed off he was saying Hey Hey Hey.....like he knows me or something lol....take a chill pill...oops that may sound like a date rape drug....get your panties out of a wad.
respectfolk — September 18, 2013
"The way you grab me - Must wanna get nasty"
nope - sorry, this article of yours has FAIL written all over it.
Jack — September 18, 2013
I'm SO glad that I haven't spent so much time in school that I can argue that "You know you want it" is not a line that rapists use or would use.
Jaleena — September 18, 2013
For a popular song like this, I have no care in the world how this article was written or if it didn't even fit into this site, I am just glad its out there.
You don't have respect for Koehler? At least have some respect for the women who were brave enough to write down what their rapist said to them. To be degrading this article that takes only about five minutes of your time, until you blow it out of proportion and make it part of your life, is basically saying 'Hey, I care nothing about what you went through and I don't think Koehler should of shed some light on this abusive song because it doesn't fit my standards"
It seems the only problem you guys have with this article is the format it was written. I'm sorry I don't have big words like you do to make myself seem smart so anyone else would be too scared to retort but seriously .. It wasn't an article written on how to write a piece up to standards and perfection of... whatever it is you guys are and study. Its about the songs meaning.
A song you probably don't want your 16 year old daughter praising and rocking out to. And you know, a whole lot of people don't realize this. Koehler did an excellent job at bringing it to light for people, I never payed full attention to this song before and now I can't stand to hear people play it.
"Sociological Images is a blog that offers image-based sociological commentary"
That's what this is, yes? Pictures like this being a big emotional grab. Its not cheating, its not unfair, its helping people see exactly what these lines mean and it will stick in their head more than if someone just typed it out. With a song like THIS, I'm glad there is an emotional grab so more people will understand. Because songs like this, and all the other violent movies and shows in society have an affect on people's decisions. It's not brainwashing people into seeing her views. This song isn't far off like about happy ponies she disliked and took upon herself to have others see her views, no, this song is exactly this. From the mouths of rapists.
No, these lines weren't taken out of context considering the whole song is about one thing. And no, these lyrics weren't altered, they are the exact lines. Maybe if it was an article "badly" written on something silly like why everyone should hate twilight because someone took all the lines out of context and made it sound sexist, and had nothing to back up their views, then I would have a problem. But this song became a big hit, its in society, its in our heads, its serious and its wrong.
They could of had 100 spelling mistakes, I'd rather this article be out for people to see than for everyone to shut up about it and have some young teenage boy get this in his head and think that if its fine in the song, its fine for him to do. Since yes its a catchy tune, and it will be in people's heads and yes I hear it blared out of many cars.
I don't care if I'm "missing the point", I'm glad someone wrote about this song in this way, because this song isn't negative towards it's meaning. It's three happy and well dressed adults singing a catchy song about sexual assault. That's all that matters to me, a nineteen year old girl who sat through self defense class in grade TEN and listened to four out of 15 girls admit that they were sexually assaulted, two of them raped by males the same age. GRADE TEN. I want these type of songs degraded and I want them off the radios so maybe other artists will stop and think "Maybe I shouldn't make a song that can easily, with hardly any dissecting, be received as a song about rape and have it catchy so everyone will want to listen to it, because people will hate me for writing it"
I'm sure there are other articles here that aren't up to the exact science of Sociology standards, but with this song that's gained major popularity in our society where even fifteen-sixteen year old males are justifying raping their girlfriends, I really don't care you find it inappropriate on this site. Because this specific article has been seen by young women I know, and I'm glad.
mimimur — September 18, 2013
It's very telling that everytime we're talking about blurred lines, it's about consent, not interest. As in, These guys can't really tell from how she is behaving if she wants them or not, but they push ahead into rape territory rather than to stop and make sure. You'll never hear these guys singing "I know I want it / But do you want it? /the way you grab me/ Do you wanna get nasty?/Come on help me out here" - you know, what they'd actually bethinking in a situation like that.
Sue — September 18, 2013
We could also do the same thing with the song "Girl I'm gonna make you sweat" and how about Britanny Spears success: "Hit me Baby One More TIme".
Blewone — September 18, 2013
Ah, I see, a bunch of overeducated fundamentalists trying to throw around educated words. Afterall, Mea Culpa is Latin, (not to single you out specifically The_L1985) such erronious and unfortuitous language only runs in certain circles. Such hate filled analysis comes easy on the tongues of silver snakes. To real victims of such crimes, they are who the artical is written for. As such victims have every right to voice their feelings. So your ego was so briefly stroked (pun intended) however, this article isn't about you. Shame, maybe next time you would get to be the real victim of such an article? Oh wait, no, I would never wish that kind of trauma on anyone. Theories are precisely that, theory, yours, mine, Koehler, Foucault, and Einstein included. With that, I respectfully bow out.
Eric Wolkwitz — September 18, 2013
But the song is so catchy I just can't care...
J — September 18, 2013
Y'all have way too much time on your hands to go back and forth like this about HOW it is written...sigh. Now go do something productive with your day.
This is dumb — September 18, 2013
And? This article is simply just relating the lyrics of a song to some things a sexual predator might say. It's pointless really, who cares?
cc — September 18, 2013
There are going to be people who have enjoyed this song without thinking too deeply about the ideas that it's reinforcing who are going to respond negatively to this kind of article because they feel guilty and/or they feel that they're being called misogynists by the author for enjoying the song. Sexism is so deeply embedded in our culture that many people don't notice how media is spreading these messages until it's pointed out to them, and many of those people will strongly resist hearing any criticism of what they haven't understood to be a problem in the past or have even actively, unthinkingly participated in. The wake-up moment can be painful and can cause some people to want to strike back at what they feel is a criticism of themselves and their tastes, but the fact that it's taken them a while to get there or that their first response to being challenged is anger doesn't necessarily mean that they're misogynists. We can do and say sexist things, and even defend sexist things, sometimes, without being knowingly, deliberately sexist ourselves, and getting called out on something we haven't examined up to that point can be a shock. Understanding can come slowly; it's a lifetime of programming we're working against, here. Getting the word out that passive sexism can be as damaging as overt sexism in its normalization of sexist behavior on a societal level is what's important. Don't set out to win an argument, work to plant the seeds of ideas, which is what this article tries to do--give people a jolt, wake them up, make them think. It's the sort of thing some people need to start that process.
Alex — September 18, 2013
I actually used to like this song...and then I was sexually assaulted. The words at that point took a whole new meaning. It was no longer a "catchy song", but an anthem about rape. I don't think Thicke was meaning to write a song about rape, just a sexually charged song, but they way it is written kind of gives it the rape vibe. I can't listen to the song now and every time it comes on, I change the station.
Emma — September 18, 2013
The only thing I disagree with in this article is when she says that getting your ass slapped and hair pulled is demeaning. As a woman, during sex, those are two of my favorite things. It adds to the fire and passion in my opinion and it doesn't make me any less of a woman for liking those things. Some women also like being choked and/or gagged. Is that demeaning? No. It's just a preference.
Menco — September 18, 2013
Listen to the entire song it has nothing to do with rape and is all about adultry
Negro Von blacktimus — September 18, 2013
Straight up it's a fucking song. A song about a dude coming onto a girl. Big fucking deal.
Survivor — September 18, 2013
As a rape survivor, I HATE Thicke's song, it sickens me to hear it on the radio.
K.V. — September 18, 2013
Not surprising. The song is disgusting. Also, am I the only one who DOESN'T think it's catchy and fun to dance to? I'd rather dance to anything by Justin Timberlake or Beyoncé or Katy Perry or Fall Out Boy or Britney or Madonna....
too much — September 18, 2013
To label the song a ‘rape anthem’ is both irresponsible and jumping on a band wagon, that if anything diminishes real cases and victims of rape by finding a meaning that is not there.
I am a woman myself and I know enough of the world to know that all sorts of sexual fantasies go on with full consent of both parties, and although I am not interested in that sexual behaviour myself, I am not naïve enough to think it doesn’t, nor judgemental enough to say that it is wrong.
There are plenty of women or perhaps ‘good girls’ as this song refers to, that are brought up to believe sex is wrong, and that they should not give into these primal urges, no matter how sexually charged she may secretly be. Trying to convince someone to have sex, or lose her inhibitions with you is not the same as rape. It is purely a man trying to have sex with a woman. And I am sure it has happened many times the other way around also.
Nobody upon hearing this song is going to turn into a rapist. Rapists are monsters. No pop song about a man wanting to have sex with a woman is going to turn an otherwise respectful man into a rapist.
The song has more than one line to suggest that Thicke is asking for consent, is looking for a willing and active partner and is waiting for the woman to make the ‘move’. “Go ahead, get at me”, “one thing I ask of you, let me be the one you back that ass to”, “hit me up when you’re passing through” and so I just watch and wait for you to salute”. There are also lines to suggest that the woman in question has shown some interest - “I feel so lucky, you wanna hug me” and “the way you grab me”.
This article conveniently leaves these lines out because they do not serve the purpose the author requires.
This song reads to me as a cocky prick in a club who is trying to convince a girl that he fancies to leave her ‘boring’ boyfriend, whilst offering himself up as the bad boy that he thinks she wants and is telling her what he would like to do with her. The line that claims her last guy was too square for her and tried to domesticate her, could even be construed that he knows the woman in question and has been given this information by her so is offering her an alternative. Even the line “I hate these blurred lines” suggests its not about consent, but about not knowing whether or not she fancies him enough to cheat on her boyfriend, or if you take into consideration the implication that he may know this girl, the blurred lines could refer to that of friendship and him wanting to take it to the next level. If it was about consent, he wouldn’t hate the blurred lines, he would be indifferent to them because he would go ahead and rape her anyway.
Even the line “hit me up when you passing through ,give you something big enough to tear your ass in two” - he is giving her the option of hooking up if she wants and is advertising the fact that he has a big penis. Distasteful? Yes. Rapey? No. No rapist has ever said to a woman, “I’m going to rip your arse in two, so let me know when you’re about if you fancy it”.
There is no indication to suggest that he will force it upon her whatsoever. He is offering her rough sex and has asked her to get in touch if she wants to take him up on it. The term “rip your arse in two” is not one that was made up in this song, nor does it mean he actually wants to rip her open - or even that he wants to, just as “I want to fuck your brains out” a term used by many women as well as men, does not literally mean you want to have sex with someone until their brain falls out of their head.
Language is shaped by meaning and intent, and these phrases taken out of context, and depending on the recipient, can sound completely harmless, irritating, cocky, seductive or threatening. You cannot call it rape language just because rapists have used phrases like these in the past. They do not own the copyright on those phrases and why would you ever give them that power?
In my opinion the article is both manipulative and irresponsible.
andrew fletcher — September 18, 2013
who ever thinks blurred lines is about rape and violence against women needs to grow up and go outside and talk to as many people as they can please. at no point is anything like this implied or sang about i have never listened to this song on the radio or tv and ever gone "rape defo rape" or "these women are nothing more then props in this video" or "violence against women is being called for by these singers" its a dumb song about random shit but none of the things its accused of maybe dancing meeting new people maybe other little random shit but no rape and violence. shit can be seen a thousand different ways by a thousand different people but really come on go outside and live life.
Guest — September 18, 2013
Lots of rape apologists and deniers flooding this comment section. Thanks to people like you, the problem will persist.
Eric — September 18, 2013
The song is about women coming onto guys and leaving "blurred lines" in what they actually want. Not at all does this song say he wants to rape any women. I know many people that have told women "I know you want it" and never raped a woman. "The way you grab me, must want to get nasty" puts an image of a woman grabbing up on a man... in which case the woman would either be sexually assaulting him or clearly she does want it. These people clearly don't have any idea of what hip-hop songs and rap artists portray in their songs. People use rhetorical statements in songs all the time. "I'll give you something to tear your ass in two" is just T.I. stating that he has a big penis, it's nothing more than that. People can break down literally any song possible and turn it to seem like they're saying something else. I could take Twinkle Twinkle Little Star and somehow turn it around to meaning it's a song about murdering your family, but it's just a song until you sit down and break it apart like that. You don't like the song, don't listen to it. Don't go into comparing something to rape... Those are the type of people that give innocent people a bad name, that has changed this world to be so damn sensitive about everything. Do I think rape is okay? No. Does it happen though? Yes. It always has and it always will. But what does breaking this song down to fit the lyrics to what you want it to change a damn thing about it? Grow up people... Don't be so sensitive about songs, movies, games, and words. How about rather than showing such empowerment to getting rid of songs like this or words such as "gay" or "fag" or "retard" we sit down and fix real issues in the world? People in Africa are starving to death, being murdered, being raped, being tortured, sleeping on the dirt, fighting against AIDS, and have no clean water to drink and you're all focused on the lyrics of a song... Really? Be a little more selfish why don't you? This is the type of thing that makes me lose all respect for the human race.
just me — September 18, 2013
To me, the blurred lines seemed to be between monogamy and fooling around.
Stop Assuming — September 18, 2013
Just to make this clear: I am a woman, I believe that rape is an awful crime, however I think this opinion needs to be heard.
The song is about sex--that can't be denied, obviously, however, taking his lyrics and transposing them onto what may or may not have been said by rapists to their victims doesn't prove anything. Can a woman not enjoy bondage or rough sex if it is in fact consensual? Many women that I know enjoy having their hair pulled etc. by consensual partners. Does the fact that something is said by a rapist to his/her victim make it automatically "wrong" to say to a partner? Saying that any woman who wants to be spanked or dominated is ascribing to some sort of "misogynistic fantasy" and "wants to be degraded and abused for a man's gratification and amusement" is incredibly sexist and demeaning to those women in itself. This song says nothing to show that the sex was not consensual--and it's ridiculous to assume that the only interpretation of it is that Robin Thick is an ass who wants to rape women. The point of songs is that they can be interpreted in many different ways--I personally interpret the "blurred lines" of this song to be the blurred lines between a girl who is "good" on the outside (sweet, kind, smart) but secretly wants to be dominated or is a sexual demon of sorts on the inside. I personally take it as a song of the liberalization of women's sexuality more than anything else.
Nymphadora — September 18, 2013
This whole thing just makes me angry and sad. Rapists don't rape because of a song. They rape because they are rapists. Putting the blame on or assigning responsibility to anyone or anything other than the rapist himself is letting the sick asshole off the hook! And juxtaposing these heartbreaking pictures and horrifying quotes with pop song lyrics that everyone is reading WAY too much into diminishes their experiences. You are doing everyone involved and affected an extreme disservice. So disappointing.
Allan Hall — September 18, 2013
This author is merely using this song to assassinate the character of Robin Thicke, by seeing it from one point of view. I can see flirting on the DIRECTLY proceeding verse of some of these lyrics.
Ed — September 18, 2013
I was with you until that last image. "Thank you for making me feel like a man" sounds like an extremely nice way to tell a partner that the evening out/dance/sex/etc was good. If we forbid sexuality from entering into our relationships then we've tossed the baby with the bath water. I think that a boyfriend can do for his girlfriend is to make her feel like a woman. A woman he respects and admires (and lusts after too).
gradmommy — September 18, 2013
The song does NOT reflect the blurred lines between consensual sex and rape. It addresses the blurred lines between a "lady in the street but a freak in the bed." It clearly says that the woman in question should NOT let her past man keep her all boxed up and that Robin will help her be sexually liberated. There are many women who do "like it rough," who want their hair pulled and ass smacked, and it's not misogynistic to point that out in a song that's about a woman Robin finds irresistible. To pull out some lyrics and not ALL is shoddy on the part of sociological images, and I generally expect more from them. Never ONCE does Robin say anything about non-consensual sex, even if individual lines can be cherry-picked as analogous to typical rape parlance. So many BAD examples in this piece, such as this one "Thicke further sings “You’re a good girl,” suggesting that a good girl won’t show her reciprocal desire (if it exists). This becomes further proof in his mind that she wants sex: for good girls, silence is consent and “no” really means “yes.”" Where does the logical jump in the second sentence come from? And T.I.'s part specifically says, "One thing I ask of you..." - he's asking for consent! This whole dissecting of this song into what folks WANT it to say instead of what it really says is irritating. There are so many other songs that ARE actually advocating date rape and sexual assault that to jump on this one, erroneously, is just distracting.
Michelle — September 18, 2013
I see all these rape deniers, and it's really sad and pathetic.
A short message to those who say this isn't rape-y: What if your mother, sister, daughter, or wife was a victim of rape? What if their rapist had told them, "I know you want it, I'll give you something to tear your ass in two"?
Bad Writer — September 18, 2013
This article seemingly links the chauvinistic attitudes expressed in the song to an explicit endorsement of rape in an overly emotional and aggressive manner. The shock factor leads many viewers to view Thicke's intentions as a glorification of rape. A less manipulative method should address the actual meanings behind the lyrics, which undeniably express a dangerous attitude towards women. It could then explain that such attitudes can become a serious factor in rapes and condemn Thicke for promoting such an attitude. At another level, the song fosters other problems, albeit less serious then rape, such as the lack of interest in women's feelings and thoughts in a relationship. It would be better, if the reader could arrive at these conclusions on their own.
The article also ignores other interpretations of the lyrics, when it needs to provide counterarguments. For example, in many situations, a woman may show initial disinterest. Many confident men will try to push past this and win her over, although she may expressly say she isn't interested. To a certain point, I would argue it is okay for the man to continue pursuit, perhaps based on his assumption that there is a hidden desire. This is the state of blurred lines; he does not know for a fact whether she wants it or not, but he is trying anyways. It is okay for a man to encourage a girl to release her inhibitions. The true problem that the article is trying to address is that trying to have sex with someone based on these assumptions is rape.
Ichiban1 — September 18, 2013
"Get out of my dreams, get into my car" - Billy Ocean
THE SCARIEST LYRICS EVER SUNG.
I KNOW HE MEANT, GET IN MY CAR SO I CAN ABDUCT YOU AND BURY YOU SIX FEET UNDER.
Sinnamon Love — September 18, 2013
It is shocking to read that this writer assumes that all women might not have fantasies and associate their personal sexual proclivities with the types of things described in Thicke's song. Many women do like anal, like having their hair pulled, like being spanked or like sexual role play and pet names. For some, consensual BDSM is an active, healthy part of their sex lives - and to deny this is to deny THEIR sexual agency as well. To link Robin Thicke, whom for all we know is writing about his sexual relationship with his wife, whom he has been very outspoken regarding their sexual relationship in the past... with rapists whose dictum may sound vaguely like those of consensual partners, is disgusting and irresponsible. Rape is about power. It isn't about music. It isn't about media. You can't blame a single artist for the actions of the few. Not every man, (or woman,) who calls their partner a "good girl," is a rapist. Not every woman views someone who only has missionary intercourse while locking eyes as "respecting" them. To make victims of the women who might enjoy the activities described in this song, is to deny THEM agency as well. At this moment, there are ropes, handcuffs, dildos and butt plugs in my bedside drawer... along with lubricants, condoms and a myriad of implements for spanking and rough sexual play. I ask my partner, OFTEN, to engage in these activities. He says these same words to me frequently... hearing, "I will give you something to tear your ass in two," whispered in my ear while at a public event... a promise for pleasure later, or telling me I am a "good girl," while his semen is dripping from either pair of my lips post coitus as we snuggle in one another's arms is a delight for me. Its not about violence or rape... for us, its about LOVE. How boring would this world be if we all did everything the same way? How boring would our sex lives be if we only had missionary sex for the purpose of procreation? For some, in consensual sexual BDSM relationships, No does mean Yes, or even "not yet."
What Thicke describes in his song, doesn't sound like rape, it sounds like a consensual sexual relationship where limits have been negotiated. The previous relationship mentioned in the song sounds like one where she WASN'T getting what she was looking for from her previous partners, whose ideal of treating her "with respect" was giving her what HE thought she wanted, instead of asking her, and giving her what she actually wanted. The Madonna Whore Complex which allows men to put their wives on such a high pedestal because they are "good girls," that they can't engage in sodomy or oral sex with them because they have to later kiss their children... yet allows them to cheat with the whore down the street without thought, pits women against one another for "good girl/ bad girl . Women's sexual interests are diverse as they are, and you simply can not lump all women into one category assuming they all want the same type of sex. Being a "good girl" has nothing whatsoever to do with sexual proclivities and being a man who likes having sex with these type of women doesn't make him a rapist either.
Let's not blame every man for the mistakes others have made in the past. Let's acknowledge that consensual sexual behavior comes in all forms... whether its our personal tastes, or not.
Momof3 — September 18, 2013
I do not believe that the song is advocating rape. I do not believe any decent person would advocate rape. The song is not intended in this light. We have to stop overreacting to songs and start overreacting to RAPE, how about that?
sgulbrandson@hotmail.com — September 18, 2013
I must be really naive.. I haven't read any articles from Robin Thicke - but I guess I thought that this song was about a woman in a relationship and a man who was trying to get her to have an affair. "Ok, now he was close // Tried to domesticate you // But you're an animal..."
Mack ♥ — September 18, 2013
What if, plot twist, the artist intended the questionable lyrics, because it brings to light these issues. I mean, the guy is a married father, no doubt he feels just as strongly about rape as the next parent. Some good has certainly come of this, in that it brings forward the issues about consent. I doubt anyone takes the lyrics as an invitation to run out and attack people, but it has brought forth some important points so it isn't all bad.... Not that I'm being at all comprehensible.
Tiresiess — September 18, 2013
Wouldn't it be nice if radical republicans, like Ken Cucinelli, were concerned about *unwilling* women being sodomized rather than going after gay people?But wait, that wouldn't reinforce male dominance. I forgot both women and gay men threaten predatory straight men. *sigh*
JC — September 18, 2013
The song is about cheating, NOT RAPE. It's absolutely ridiculous to assume that his dirty talk will lead to rape. It's almost as if... gasp* the man is demonized!
I'm tired of this feminist crap telling me that I'm shit if I want to get a little bit playful with my girlfriend. She fucking loves the song, I love the song.. we have a great sex life and people telling me that it's wrong of me to get playful.
The relationship between what rapists say and what lyrics are included in the song is certainly interesting but not necessarily cause for great concern. As long as a girl is comfortable, consensual, and willing to practice a bit of 'dirty talk' there won't be a problem. It fucking sucks that some pigs think that girls 'want it' when they show clear signs that they don't but the song clearly isn't about that.
This is some patriarchy bull shit article. It fucking sucks that the women got raped but oh my god, stop fucking judging us men. I fucking hate rapists along with the majority of women AND MEN, and I hope they rot in hell.
Everyone_Else — September 18, 2013
As a rape victim and anti feminist:
I may not write out my opinion as eloquently as everyone else has, but I want to speak for my side. I am a total anti-feminist as I have many opinions that are very "woman belong in the kitchen" like. I'm entitled to my opinion and it's the way I choose to live my life. However, I used to think rape was ridiculous and the victim wasn't really a true victim unless she was beaten blue.
A while back I'd think this article is absurd but still trashy. That being said I was "lucky" enough to find my way into a situation where I was raped. I wasn't beaten and didn't have a scratch but how can I say.... WOW was it one of the most horrific things I've ever endured. I'm now a rape survivor--that's even hard to say to this day. To hear the obvious sexual nature paring with the forcefulness in some of the lyrics it makes me sick. For example "I know you want it" come on. It's clear that maybe it's not downright exploiting rape victims but it's shining this pretty color cast light on sexual aggressiveness towards partners who aren't as obliging with the act. It's the trashy "Just do it and let me do what I want" talk in it that make me sick. I feel this kind of song explains the mentality of my rapist to a T. He claimed I wanted it yet I never saw him before in my life, I wasn't dressed provocative to maybe give him an inclination I was "okay" with being trashy, I wasn't drunk, and I wasn't alllllll the other stereotypes of victims I myself once believed in, but he "knew I wanted it" and I was just a "Good girl"
Back on topic, it's a trashy song. It's obviously about forcing some sort of sexual act, be it rape, cheating, whatever. It's all bad and disgusting while incidentally feeding the hearts and souls of rapists around the world.
Maybe I'm jumping off an "uneducated" cliff here, but if animal abuse videos were outlawed for the greater good hopefully one day songs that are so sexually aggressively graphic will be, too; purely based on the mere premise that it would be better for society to not sing about the blurred lines whether or not a person wants their ass ripped in two.
Don't bother with critiquing my grammar, that's a waste of your time on the internet. If you want to tutor someone, go help a kid that will benefit from it. I'm in my 20's and set in my grammatically incorrect ways. I seen it all. ;)
lucy — September 18, 2013
lol when I read this "Rape Me" by Nirvana came on and I thought.. well...
deergod — September 18, 2013
The great thing about music is how it can be interpreted in so many different ways and thus be appealing to a wide variety of people. Some may find this song catchy and hip and not really care about the topic Robin Thicke chose to base his song on. Others, who believe the lyrics portray something sickening and wrong are clearly going to dislike the song and even create articles, videos and posts about it. People are entitled to their opinions no matter how wrong they seem to the other side. In my opinion I believe that Robin Thicke (who I believe is married and possibly has a child?) may be simply referring to the sexual acts his wife or another SPECIFIC woman enjoyed and participated in. Some women really do enjoy being told things like this (as hard to believe as it may seem. But I can definitely see how this can strike a cord with people who are sensitive to the topic of rape, being rape victims themselves or people who just have strong beliefs on the subject. The lyrics are definitely a more than a little racy but I must admit the first 100 or so times I heard it on the radio I had paid them no mind. When I read my first post about them I was truly outraged. How could someone EVER say those things?! But the more I thought about it the more I realized that we have to look at it in it's context. 1. Robin Thicke may not even have written the song, he may not support what it says; he just needed to make a quick mil. 2. The lyrics that may feel dirty and downright wrong to you may be perfectly fine for someone else. I have very strong beliefs on the topic of rape and that part of me hates this song with a burning passion. But another part of me hates the song for the plain and simple reason that it is far. too. overplayed.
YouAllMakeMeSick — September 18, 2013
I think too many people are commenting on how they don't like how the article was edited, and aren't focusing on the fact that these people (people, that's what they are) were raped. Everything said in defense of the song is like, "Yeah, you were raped, but I liked the beat so you probably deserved it, bitch." If you're a person who is like that, then you shouldn't be reading the article in the first place. You should be off getting some professional help.
Town Drunk — September 18, 2013
Marilyn Manson shot those kids at Columbine and Robin Thicke raped Miley Cyrus.
edmeese — September 18, 2013
I thought Robin Thicke was a woman.
Ryan James Wilkie — September 18, 2013
Honestly, people this is not a "New" thing to have music/lyrics that are suggestive.....come on....not saying i like it but we are acting like all of this is New.....
thenormrdblstandards — September 18, 2013
Okay I'm sorry can someone disseminate the 50 Shades of Grey Triology/Kool-Aid; oh I am so sorry a woman wrote those so it must be okay. I'm a female quite comfortable in my sexuality who enjoys rough sex and am intelligent enough to know that "tearing that ass up" means a nice hard FUCK!!! Society however has taught me to play the role of a good girl. Let me tell you if I dress proactively go out to a bar; chances are good I'm on the prowl, he's not saying your not a "human" he's referring to the base animal instincts that both male and female human beings have.
Oh yeah-sexual abuse survivor; studied Psych and Soc. I don't play the victim card and won't demonize a hip hop song that can be analyzed and broken down in numerous ways to further an agenda. As a victim my attacker is normally just as damaged as he had the ability to make me. A rapists psychological profile isn't pretty; it doesn't make it right but I won't blame a song that's very tame in terms of hip hop to blame one of our worst crimes against mankind on.
lyss — September 18, 2013
I personally took this as a girl who has lived the straight and narrow her whole life and is experiencing kinky sex and she likes it. Its out of the ordinary so its exhilarating, which makes her leave the husband she had for lust. When its saying its supposed to hurt or whatever, ummm isn't kinky sex a lot of work and she's feeling pain from exhausting her muscles and is out of breath? Last time I checked, sex is exhausting. By her obvious sexual advances on him by grabbing him in a way that turns him on, shows that she's consensual. There are plenty other songs out there that have male dominance, promiscuous women and infidelity as forefront themes, why is only robin thicke getting trashed on for it and not all the other ones? I honestly don't think this song was written to be about raping a girl.
Kate — September 18, 2013
How the fuck do you compare a song about clearly consensual sex (though it may be viewed as rough, dirty, and even violent) to women who have been raped? Nothing about this song implies that rape is okay, nothing in the lyrics suggests that the girl is unwilling. I get that rape culture is a problem and rape is never a woman's fault -- but sometimes, sometimes you folks go one too far. Seriously, seriously too far.
SomethingToThinkAbout — September 19, 2013
I've been reading through the comments on here and must say that most of you have some very interesting discussions going... The question I'd like addressed is this: how much emotion should one use in this dissection? The idea that the song is about rape certainly calls for a fair amount of emotional use, it's an emotional topic and anyone in these comments thinking that that should not come into play is a sick bastard. Think about it from a literary point of view, sure, try to make logical arguments and not use emotional manipulation but.... humans are beings of emotion. It affects how we think, how we function and how we make decisions. It would be stupid to not integrate this into your arguments.
Also... it's probably a good idea to consider the fact that what the author and singer of the song meant when they wrote it doesn't actually matter. Once a song is released it's about how the public interprets it. Whether Robin Thicke is trying to make a point or illustrate some sort of "grey" rape zone, doesn't matter. What matters is the effect this has on whoever listens to it. Are these kinds of ideologies going to seep into more brains through the lyrics in some song that someone is only listening to because it has a catchy beat? What kind of culture is encouraged by the idea of even broadcasting this song everywhere?
Is it demonizing a song to consider all the effects the lyrics might have? There's no way to weed out all the songs with questionable lyrics, but is it possible to encourage people to have this kind of debate? What's happening here is the wonderful side of intelligent human beings, even though many very different opinions are being displayed. We're thinking. Take the time to really get past your outrage and disgust at one another. People on here are bringing the tricky word "respect" into play and you know what, I believe in respecting everyone's point of view and everyone's writing.
Just some questions to think about.
Oh, and to all those who can't see where this "rape" talk is coming from.... I'd just like to point out my previous point of how the public views this song being key. The people in the above pictures have been raped. This song may or may not be about rape, but it resonates with them and their terrible experience and therefore, must have some of the aspects of rape.
laura iaccino — September 19, 2013
From The Mouths of Rapists: The Lyrics From Countless Pop and R&B Songs From The Last 30 Years.
Elle — September 19, 2013
Oh this is so ridiculous. REALLY? As someone who HAS been a victim of assault, I don't take these lyrics personally at all. AND I even find them relatable. I know its SHOCKING but sometimes adults in serious, monogamous relationships play these exact kinds of games. I feel like any of those lyrics could have easily applied to my own sex life with my future husband and he definitely isn't about to hurt me. I think this is one case of just being a little too serious and over-analyzing things.
haleigh — September 19, 2013
But...but..What about all those other songs that are worse than this? I don't see everyone bashing those songs.
Guest — September 19, 2013
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Anon — September 19, 2013
This article uses circular
logic and a bizarre sense of "I'm right because I say so" to get its
point across. There's no clear demonstrations of anything besides the
fact that "I know you want it" was a common thing said to women who were
raped. Outside of that and pretty much exclusively that, her argument
holds no weight, and I'll explain why:
1) You'd have to look at the lyrics before and after "I know you want
it" in order to determine what was meant by the sentence. Since she
does not do this, I'm inclined to ignore the argument. There's nothing
cementing that this was what he meant, there's literally no context.
2) "You're a good girl" really could have been a statement of fact.
Honestly, at this point, I'm going to need the whole thing dissected
line-by-line, because the things being said in the article do not align
well with the things I'm seeing being sung. I've read the lyrics several
times, and heard the song several as well. I never would have heard of
the song if there hadn't been such a media fuss, but I tend to have a
soft spot for researching further when I hear sensationalist arguments
and complete fabrication, but we'll get to the fabrication later.
3) Pain is literally part of sex. Science says so. Would you like an
explanation? In the body, there are specialized nerve receptors. Many
people know about how people can fool themselves into thinking they're
holding hot water by holding cold and warm water at the same time, this
is actually part of the way we know about this. The receptors in the
genitalia and in the lips and in the many places that are considered, to
use a semi-ridiculous term, the "sexy-time" places, are pain receptors.
The receptors that feel pleasure are pain receptors. So her saying that
pain is not a part of sex and pleasure is simply scientifically wrong.
This is also the reason that the next lyric she discusses, after the "do
it like it hurt" lyric, talks about smacking a girl's bottom and
pulling her hair. Not to mention submissive behavior is something that's
fairly common, so he could have been referring to the woman's
preferences and not his own.
4) Honestly, I've heard enough hip-hop songs to think that "do it
like it hurt" is just some ridiculous and stupid reference to something I
don't understand. The arguments of this paper in general would have to
be more sound to get me to believe this.
5) The supposed finale of this is literally an expression used by
women and men alike to describe a large penis. Likening it to anal is
not only ignorant, it basically negates the whole argument. The comment
has nothing to do with anal sex, really, and everything to do with his
penis size. The fact that she was ignorant enough to make this claim
essentially says that she has no basis in understanding of the media
she's breaking down and she has not even made a venture into the culture
from which it originated. This in particular ruins her argument.
Now, I'm not here to say whether or not this song is about rape, and
I'm not really here to argue about whether or not rape is wrong. I am
merely here to point out the logical flaws of this and other feminists
of this style, because this sort of logic is the main sort that I have
seen in many radical feminist arguments. There's really only four things
that people like this tend to focus on (men are aggressors, "nice guy"
syndrome, bdsm is evil, and internalized misogyny), all of which somehow
stem back to the fact that we are in a patriarchal society and that men
are the oppressors in such a society. All of which may or may not be
true to an extent (again not really here to make a point either way),
but the logic behind these arguments are all so circular that they don't
make sense. There is not one conclusion in that agenda that doesn't
stem from a conclusion in the same tree, or, to make a C.S. Lewis
reference, the same puddle. And there are far more puddles in the
clearing than just the one, the difference between this and a C.S. Lewis
novel being that all of these puddles are visible and reachable. In
order to properly argue this text, these people would have to understand
not only media literacy and critical thinking, but also the hip-hop
culture, pop culture, male culture, pornography as an art, a business,
and as a literature (how is it an art or a literature, you ask? Hence
the point of it being mentioned as a thing one would need to know to
comment on the song), and, of course, feminist culture as well as
theory. I've probably left a few out, even. This woman clearly does not
know at least several of these, maybe not even more than just the one
(feminist theory and/or culture), and thus her argument is almost a
joke.
Yes, I see the suffering, I empathize with the rape victims, all that
jazz. I've had more than enough hateful events in my life to get how
somebody could feel as a result of this. This is not in relation to
them, it's literally about how idiotic this girl's argument sounds to
anybody who reads porn or listens to much hip-hop or enjoys being bitten
during nooky.
Brad Nelson — September 19, 2013
As a real, live adult male who has never raped, and who doesn't consider himself part of the "patriarchy" (though I'll consider joining if we get decoder rings), and one who's had an awful lot of consensual sex, I can tell you that these blurred lines exist.
I would run out of fingers if I counted the amount of women that I've dated who have used those blurred lines. I've been told to stop, and so I did, because I was brought up correctly. Many of those times I was asked why I stopped. Personally, I believe that once "stop" has been said, that's my cue to stop. I was very surprised to learn that to many women "stop" just meant "try harder" or "use a different approach". It didn't actually mean "stop".
The lyrics from this song are simply pointing that fact out. That there are blurred lines, and that sometimes as a man, we are expected to act macho, driven, and revved up on testosterone.
One could read much more into this if one chose, just as Manson believed that Helter Skelter was written to instruct him in the ways of creating his vision of the future.
Anna — September 19, 2013
I agree that many of the lines can be triggering to rape victims if they match something that their rapist said. However, I feel that she needed to expand on this segment: "This lyric suggests that women are supposed to enjoy pain during sex or that pain is part of sex. The woman’s desires play no part in this scenario – except insofar as he projects whatever he pleases onto her — another parallel to the act of rape: sexual assault is generally not about sex, but rather about a physical and emotional demonstration of power." By leaving it at that, she completely dismisses the portion of the population (whatever size it may be) that actually /does/ enjoy pain during sex or the obvious power differences between one partner and the other.
jackmackenna — September 19, 2013
I hope you got permission to use the stories of these people to make a point about a pop song.
Mr. Phazon — September 19, 2013
…SO?
Literally, so fucking what? You don’t think rapists didn’t say shit
that was said in this song and other rap and hip-hop songs? You don’t
think people haven’t heard this whispered or yelled or grunted in their ears
like these girls have?
ROBIN THICKE’S SONG DOESN’T PROMOTE RAPE OR RAPE CULTURE AND HIS LYRICS, COMPARED TO COINCIDENTAL PHRASES, DOESN’T PROVE SHIT!
Seriously this doesn't prove anything.
That’s like saying I’m traumatized by Cradle of Filth talking about
being raped in a pool of blood because I was on occasion. Dani Filth
didn’t know that, and neither did fucking Robin Thicke.
Diana — September 19, 2013
I just love the comments here. I love how people prioritize absolving and defending Thicke over defending & listening to rape victims and protecting potential rape victims by questioning rape culture and how its normalized in supposedly innocent songs and videos such as this.
loser — September 19, 2013
I know this links to the music video, please don't watch it. It's on its way to becoming the most popular song ever.
Devils Advocate — September 19, 2013
I can see the slant that the author is taking here, however there are many girls who genuinely do want the things in this song. It does ring true of a specific type of sexual appetite that some girls really do have.
Donna — September 19, 2013
Good god. It's a fucking song. No one complained about Mambo #5 when it came out, but attack someone who makes a catchy beat? Get over it.
Shromonia — September 19, 2013
"Don't struggle, it will only make it worse."
allofyouchill — September 19, 2013
Sorry, I don't believe this was meant to be about rape. I think people are getting it confused with kinky sex. Some girls like being called a good girl while actually being bad. Some like getting their hair pulled and their ass smacked and pain when they're having sex. Allright, everyone's so focused on the lyrics they can pick out and find their own meanings for. The blurred lines don't have to be between consent and rape. They are between a good girl and a bad girl. And let's face it, a good girl gone bad is a fantasy for guys. AND many girls. The song also says "go ahead, get at me." No one pays attention to that part though. It's obviously telling to girl to go to him, not himself forcing himself onto her.
People will get offended over anything these days. Rape is a terrible thing to go through, and I do not want to upset anyone who has been through this. I am a female, as well as a strong supporter of women's rights. That being said, I think people are overreacting with this song.
commonsense — September 19, 2013
Give me a break.... are people seriously getting this booty tickled over a song? Honestly people perceive things in different ways.... music is meant to be free... its supposed to make you feel good ... sometimes the artist even wants you to apply its message to your life... the message... well its exactly what i stated before... a perception... your perception... in my opinion... if you think this songs portrayal of kinky sex is rape... don't listen to it because you have no appreciation for a. other peoples musical tastes... and b. other peoples sexual desires and fantasies... believe it or not some women actually like being treated the way this song describes... yes rapists do say things like this ect... but so do perfectly normal people that are both consenting to the sex... get the fuck over yourselves... oh another thing... most people don't analyze top 40 music lyrics... its just easy to dance to cuz it has a rockin beat ... just because the person knows all the lyrics doesnt mean they act on the song or even pay attention to what they mean... you worry to much... do your own thing and live life happily stop criticizing people on their self expression and art work it's close minded rude and annoying
aftershocked — September 19, 2013
The overwhelming number of people, female and male, arguing about the blurriness of consent or how this song isn't really about consent or how Thicke totes asked nicely for it and somehow diverging off into long debates about rough sex and BDSM is a perfect example of why rape culture is such a terrifying thing. This is rape culture at work, propogating itself right here--the comments of this article.
Also, "rapey" is not a thing. Rape is rape. Please stop acting like if something is merely "rapey" that it's somehow not as bad. Just call it like it is. It's rape.
Truth Co. — September 19, 2013
So many people are combing this song for rape references. There is no doubt that looking at it from a certain way the song seems to supports and even suggest these claims, but look when you read the lyrics and don't put any rape associations there, the other interpretations of the song are more to do with "liberating" women (in his words) by encouraging them to pursue casual sex and wild lifestyles as opposed to being "domesticated" (in his words) by a relationship. I think the line 'I know you want it, I hate these blurred lines etc" is more to do with what women say they want (sensitive, caring beta males) and what they usually go for (confident, brash alpha males). I think the song makes more sense when interpreted that way. I am by no means condoning misogyny or rape, but it is quite hypocritical to target Robin Thicke considering that if Nicki Minaj (or any hyper sexual female star) encouraged similar messages in their songs, nobody would bat an eyelid.
EarthOverwatch — September 19, 2013
I think we can all just agree that the song is just 'crap' (for lack of a better uncensored alternative) in general.
gee — September 19, 2013
sorry in advance for bad grammar English is not my first language.
I agree with many points made in this article, as a woman who has been a victim of sexual assault i agree that some of the lyrics to me seem very degrading and violent. "TO ME" being the key phrase there, everyone preserves song lyrics differently. I know of one person and there are probably more who has flashbacks triggered by the "I know you want it" line. i actually really like the song aslong as I dont think about the lyrics too much.
Tramen — September 19, 2013
The problem I have with some of the parody videos is that instead of staging an intelligent debate they end up sling shit around and making themselves just a low as the original. For example, I was all for the Lame Lines video until they described the guy's dancing as spastic. That and the Defined Lines made me as uncomfortable as the original; so you want to teach guys and tell them what they say (like in Blurred Lines) is offensive and sexist? Okay, so why be sexist as well (i.e. guy on a dog lead made to act like a dog). That's not really getting your point across it's just making you look stupid.
Why is it when some women try to 'represent' me and others they end up making us look bad? And then when I speak out about it I'm told I've got internal misogyny issues and hate myself.
Yeah, well done there you idiots *slow clap*
Annoyed Feminist — September 19, 2013
As a female feminist, I feel a lot of you (including the author) are completely taking this silly little pop song out of context. You're reading waaaaay to deeply into what is meant to be one of those songs you hum in your head on your way to work or you hear blasting out of car radios while walking down the street. I can understand and won't deny others' feelings of finding this song perhaps to be emotionally triggering, but it seems most of those who are stating their opinion about it showing characteristics of rape culture are not willing to accept that this song may have other meanings as well. Like all art forms, it is open to interpretation. One may feel is it totally talking about a rape scenario while another may feel it isn't all. I feel like you guys are punishing Robin Thicke and all those artists who were involved in the creative process of creating Blurred Lines for raping someone when they haven't at all. There are high chances of during writing and producing, a rape scenario was probably far from their minds during the process. It's a pop song. Remember that.
Also, why does it have to immediately go to rape? Have you not thought about this being a BDSM relationship? The fact that so many are completely looking over that idea is not only close-minded, but in a way is also sexist for denying that some women want to be told that "You're a good girl" or "I’ll give you something to tear your ass in two." People in general have various kinks; those lyrics don't immediately have to go to rape. Watch Secretary sometime if you can't seem to grasp such concepts.
Wren — September 19, 2013
"I know you want it" is not synonymous with "I plan to rape you". It just isn't. consensual sex or no sex at all can follow those words while rape can occur without them. Every other line mentioned here can be interpreted in more than one way too. There is no actual rape, or even actual sexual contact, described in the song yet some people are reacting to it as though the singer is actually raping a woman as he sings it.
Should any song with a line about being beautiful be termed "rapey" because some men have used that word in the lead up (or during) rape?
I really don't even like this song, but this is a huge waste of the anti-rape energy out there. Let's go after laws allowing rapists to gain custody of children resulting from rape. Let's go after the attitude that women are ever asking for rape. There are so many issues that can be addressed around the topic of rape. Let's not waste time and energy on a song that can be interpreted in a number of ways, only one of which is rape. Make this into a huge issue and it is that much easier for the truly big issues to be ignored, again.
JR — September 19, 2013
We will never know if he intended this song to be about rape... However, if you have any moral compass, you will know that this is a vile and disgusting song, and it's coming from a married man who recently let a 20 year old female gyrate on him on national tv. And if you have been a victim of rape, such as myself, then some of the wording in this song is just too close for comfort.
SC — September 19, 2013
This would actually sorta make sense, if only the line "The way you grabbed me" wasn't there. If the song really is about rape, why would a victim grab his/her assaulter? If anything, the victim should push the attacker away.
I think if you'd attempt to discuss this song as a pro-rape thing, you'd have to look at the lyrics in its entirety, and not simply lift some lines which are convenient for a particular point of view.
huh — September 19, 2013
I am a woman, and during sex I like to be told that I'm a good girl, and that he will tear me up, I like it when it hurts, and so on. That turns me on. So what?!
Illage Vidiot — September 19, 2013
[This is an off-topic message for mods or blog admins; all others can ignore]
Could the arbitrary and capricious moderator(s) who summarily deletes my comments that do not violate any terms, use less profanity than many others that are left up, are often up-voted many times, and aren't trolling please give me the common courtesy of explaining why they are suddenly deleted for no apparent reason and why my previous identity can't comment here anymore ever since I posted a sincere question about another deleted comment under another recent post? (my other nym had hundreds of comments posted here, none trolling; were some new over-eager rookies just hired or something?)
The comment that vanished from the other post was academically-rigorous (with sources cited) and I put real and significant effort into it (nearly an hour, mostly spent tracking down links to sources) which made it a real bummer as I lost ALL the text and links.
I've learned a lot here over the years (esp. how to explain some of these concepts to non-academic meatheads) and had really come to respect this blog until that crap started happening.
Looks like so far around 7 or 8 of mine (made under this new name under this very post) have vanished for no reason and it would be helpful to know for sure that this has become a place for the choir to preach to itself and that those looking for a real (albeit "lively," which some folks apparently can't handle) discussion should drop this blog and go find a new place where such can actually be found? I would've left years ago if someone who runs it had simply asked me to, so plz don't do the passive-aggressive coward thing (which this feels like).
I'd like an answer and feel I and others deserve one. You can make this comment vanish too and even "ban" this new nym if you like (I fully expect this to happen) but if so I'll just go into proxy/VM mode so you can't ban me by IP address and will keep asking any and everyone involved here in the comments and privately through email (sent to everyone) until I get that answer.
I'm not a troll nor am I writing this from a sense of entitlement, I'm writing it as someone who got screwed by a bait-and-switch; comments are solicited, I made some good ones (I challenge anyone to discredit the one I posted to the "Welcome To An Economy for the 1%" post if it can be resurrected somehow), then some of them vanish for no defensible reason and that is not only disingenuous, it's anti-intellectual and hypocritical (at best).
(apologies to everyone else for the off-topic ranting and raving, but damn...)
Illage Vidiot aka Village Idiot (in case you hadn't guessed).
Rabbit — September 19, 2013
It seems to me that both Shades of Grey and Blurred Lines have the same message. Women should simply be used by men.
mrjoejack — September 19, 2013
guys...its...a...soooooooong, song, song, sooooooong.but either way that aing my type of music i prefer metal, old school hip hop, old school rock, and some modern rock is nice too , todays music is gay as fuck yo! dubstep is fore lames, be offended
Kacey — September 19, 2013
How about we all teach our children right from wrong instead of blaming this guy for influencing people
Cameron — September 19, 2013
I agree with this article entirely, in how they talked about the lyrics, and ultimately our culture's obsession with sex, but to be honest, the writer f the article isnt seeing why this song is written. Any song writer writing for themselves woul never write this. What was sung, was not meant, is was purely for money. While it is extremely wrong to make all of these things represented in the song okay, it is incorrect to look at Thicke as if he believes in any of it.
GasaiYuno — September 19, 2013
For those of you saying "it's a silly pop song" "you're reading too much into it, don't really pay attention to the lyrics" "blurred lines exist and the song simply points that out" just stop. 1) I'm not sure why you people act as if music/media has absolutely no effect on the people. Like is this a joke? That has to be the lamest excuse I've heard. People LISTEN to this, regularly. If you throw something over a catchy beat (which is sampled from a Marvin Gaye song btw so let's not act like he's creative at all for throwing derogatory lyrics over someone else's beat) and listen to it enough times willingly or not, you're going to remember it . Take a commercial for instance. How many of you remember random numbers from commercials? Now how many of you remember numbers from commercials with catchy tunes. These are words getting beat into someone's head. It's one thing to listen to a dumb song because it's catchy, but this really has heavy subject matter. These lyrics are really graphic for it to be pounded into someone's head. All it takes is a kid to listen to this, or a teen or someone who wasn't brought up right, or a rapist. Now we can argue that some of that lies with parenting, but the truth of the matter is some people don't have good parents, or parents who talk about these issues because they don't pay attention to it, or people with no parents at all. Media does effect people so can we please stop acting like it doesn't. 2)There's really nothing to read into. Let's stop pretending that a group of people decided to randomly pick this song and scour the lyrics for rape triggers. It's in the lyrics, blatantly, not the people. Can we also stop acting as if this is the only song that was ever criticized. If you really think that's the case you must have been living under a rock for pretty much every Eminem song, Rick Ross' song U.E.O.N.O (or something like that) and some of Kanye West's songs. 3)Blurred lines don't exist unless the person tells you afterward that they wanted you to go for it, because like many girls have said here they like that whole dominance thing. If a girl is flirting with you, but rejects you "tearing her ass in 2" then there's nothing left to say. Nothing is blurred. People flirt, it doesn't mean they want to go home with you. While I feel that it can be misleading and unfortunate, no still means no. The song doesn't solely talk about wishing she'd be more clear. It talks about blurred lines and then he goes on to look past them because he knows she wants it because she's an animal and a bitch. Lastly, saying this is a BDSM relationship? Come on now. To me that's looking to far into it. I feel like that's only being said just to argue that it's not about rape. If you honestly feel that way though, wouldn't it have to be an actual relationship whether it's no strings attached or with your actual mate? Here he's talking about fucking some random girl that's telling him no, but he "knows that she wants it" that doesn't sound like BDSM to me, because wouldn't you have to know that the person is into that shit? He has successfully talked about hot sex in "Lost Without You" This is not it. If you are one of those people that likes to be dominated that's fine. That's you, but do not deny those who are hurt/insulted by the song. Do not make them feel bad about being triggered by the lyrics, or people like me who just feel the song is completely wrong. Posts like these aren't against those of you who like this, it's simply about the clear negativity and misogyny of the song (which he himself admits to and is proud of)and how it affects those who have been told that they wanted it and so on. There's no need to make those people feel wrong or like outsiders.
steerpike66 — September 19, 2013
Men who faff around and condone rape need to have a large foreign object pushed inside them against their will. It's this hermetically sealed confidence of never being violated that gives these men the confidence to mouth off on rape. They don't know shit.
YOU PEOPLE ARE — September 19, 2013
REACHING.
I HOPE YOU PEOPLE NEVER LISTEN TO MUSIC EVER AGAIN.
swim — September 19, 2013
some women and men do like pain but it should always be consensual. I hate when you sheltered vanilla wannabe xtians think you know how the rest of the world enjoys their sex. Anything is okay between consenting adults and the commentators need to stop being so judgey and mind their own business. Not even talking about the song, just the views expressed in these comments.
Gods and Earfs — September 19, 2013
Let's all remember that you're giving away wonderful marketing advice for free.
What? — September 19, 2013
I'm a bit confused. Are these objectors putting words in the singer's mouth? I just listened to the song. It says nothing about a woman saying "No," using violence or even manipulating her to do something against her consent.
Rather, the song seems like a celebration of her consent. Believe it or not, sometimes girls want to have sex with men. And it's okay for a guy to be happy about a girl wanting to have sex with him. It. Isn't. Rape.
Gods and Earfs — September 19, 2013
What does this red american stop sign mean?
ANGRY — September 19, 2013
I understand this is just a pop song and people enjoy it, but it's the fact some guys listen to this song and agree with what he's singing. And THAT'S what isn't right.
KK — September 19, 2013
I have never heard this song -and thanks to this article, probably never will- but I would just like to say that I think this is sick. Any "man" who believes that crap is not a man. This song undeniably promotes the whole "rape culture" thing and its grotesque message that "certain women ask for it." Women don't ask to be raped; that's why it's called rape. It's nonconsensual and, therefore, against the law (and any decent human being's moral boundaries). The fact that there are people out there that don't respect women as human beings is beyond saddening and I fully believe they will get what they deserve in this life or the next.
disqus_Jdk7jKzICK — September 19, 2013
Some people commenting are dismissing (unaware?) that the signs held up in the photos are quotes from ACTUAL RAPISTS...so whatever the intent Thicke had when writing the lyrics, you have to ponder where the rapists got their ideas, and how over the years rapists have gotten off the hook using those justifications. Sure, in a consensual relationship saying this stuff can lead to hot sex, but years and years of boys and men getting the message that "no" means "yes" has led to a lot of unpunished rapes--and that cannot be denied.
TB — September 19, 2013
The song is especially disturbing since we take the 'ultra dominant male is OK' sexual dynamic for granted. To see the creepiness better, turn the song on its head and imagine now that a woman was singing it to a man...
the Squid — September 19, 2013
this song is about dirty sex. period. simple....who ever wrote this is out of their minds and who ever those people are who posed for those pictures are imbeciles. Do i like the song, not really...because i liked it better when Marvin Gaye sang it
truly terrible article.
Apple Core — September 19, 2013
I just have a question... Why is a man included in the pictures? I'm not saying that a man can't be raped, but the word "girl" is in his sign? Why...? What...?
iciclek1139 — September 19, 2013
Did you ask these victims permission before you used their images for your bloviating, misguided grandstanding??
the Squid — September 19, 2013
my comment i posted earlier was insensitive, i didn't fully read the article before posting, was foolishly under the impression those were random people / social activists and not victims....apologies to that comment. foot in mouth
Kmosley — September 19, 2013
My heart breaks for anyone who has ever been sexually abused. However, this is a far fetched leap. Accusing someone of singing about rape is a huge big deal, and should not be done lightly. I understand the points being made here, and the passion behind them. However, I firmly believe this song is about consensual sex between a dominant and submissive participant. There are women who consensually submit, and they like it. The man is married. How do you know it wasn't inspired by his own sex life with his wife? You don't. Sometimes people are blinded by their biases. There's nothing wrong with that... Until it turns into accusing someone of something so heinous without viable proof.
tincankilla — September 19, 2013
this whole article makes me feel bad for these women - but it also is so committed to their identities as victims that it misses the point of the song. The song is about feminine sexual empowerment. not female, but feminine with all the loaded social baggage. i know that's hard to swallow, but bear with me for a second. As a straight man who has dated strong, educated, successful and independent women, I've been surprised to discover over the years that many of them actually like it when you create a safe space for them to be weaker and vulnerable during sex. Before you start clutching your pearls - this does NOT mean raping them, people, or doing anything at all without their consent. if anything, a women's consent to be objectified as you both act out sexual roles is key, because it is situational and not permanent. knowing that you'd never hurt her, that she is safe, and that you respect her as a person and a woman is fundamental.
That may be out of your experience, but it doesn't mean its not a real thing.
Forky Witherspoon — September 19, 2013
Well this poorly written article certainly supports all the myths about rape: It's about "power" not sex (lol I wonder how it's not about sex as the "rapist" has an orgasm??), women are completely innocent "victims", etc. Absolute garbage.
"Thicke sings 'I know you want it', a phrase that many sexual assault
survivors report their rapists saying to justify their actions"...umm ok, how is that Robin Thicke's fault? The illogical thinking and lack of critical thinking is astonishing in this emotional piece of garbage.
Hard to believe any of these women were "raped" anyway, they are all repulsive. Bottom line is, there's rarely such a thing as rape. It's a construct of women who regret their actions, fear sexuality, and don't have the courage to go against what society dictates as proper behavior. Men pay the price for it. Disgraceful. Hope all the sickos holding up these signs are shunned.
anonymous — September 19, 2013
lol
Wren — September 19, 2013
Do I think it's an awesome song? Not at all.
Do I care if it is ever played again? Not really.
Do I think it is a rape anthem? Nope.
Do I think it is a problem to label it as such? Absolutely. When we begin conflating misogynistic fantasies or men who are trying to talk, not force, women into bed with rape we are doing a major disservice to those who have been raped. This song does not portray a rape. At most, it portrays a man with rape-like thoughts, but I think that is a reach. To claim it is a rape anthem plays directly to the idea that women can't tell rape from sex and shouldn't be believed without evidence that thy fought. Condemn the song for what it is: a fairly fluffy song that objectifies women that will disappear before New Years if people let it run its course. If you are truly concerned about rape anthems, there are much worse lyrics out there, which need no interpretation in a certain light to see them.
Or just go on complaining about one pop song.
LaLaBlahBlah — September 19, 2013
For those saying the song could be about an encounter with someone he knows well enough to make all these assumptions about her desire, then why is the song called "Blurred Lines"? I don't think the lines would be "blurred" if he knew the chick well enough. Otherwise, I could see where you're coming from, but I don't think so....
disqus_Jdk7jKzICK — September 19, 2013
You can analyze the lyrics however you want, at PhD level, 5th grade level, using an urban slang dictionary or the OED: what feminists are trying to point out, especially in this photography project, is that hearing "You know you want it" over and over is tiresome, given that rapists will commonly SAY this and USE it all they way to a court of law to excuse their assaults, and will often get away with it because we, as a culture in America, accept it this concept--even if the girl is underage. It doesn't come from one song, it comes from family, friends, media, immaturity, denial, sexism, blah blah blah. I mean, have you read the news lately? The guy who got a month after raping his 14 year old student and the judge said "she was chronologically older than her age." Did he get it from Robin Thicke, off course not. But thanks to Robin Thicke, the attitude perpetuates that a guy gets to make the choice whether or not No means Yes.
The Times — September 19, 2013
Guys I'm organizing a Growing Pains VHS and DVD burning event. Alan Thicke is obviously responsible for this rape-inducing song. If Thicke hadn't produced Robin this rapey song would never exist and thousands if not millions of women would be saved from this song which is no doubt driving men mad with their pro rape lyrics.
female34 — September 19, 2013
Think some people are looking a little too hard for meanings behind a song. If you don't like it, don't listen to it.
myblackfriendsays — September 19, 2013
Can anyone name a song sung by a man that glorifies/promotes the idea of consent? The only song I can think of is "Say Yes" by Floetry--but they are two women.
Joan Stevenson — September 19, 2013
Ok so did you go through EVERY SONG EVER WRITTEN or did you just decide
to pick apart this song? I'm sure that if you check every song ever
written you can find the same thing. Just like if you put a bunch of
monkeys in a room with typewriters you will get Shakespeare. DO WE
REALLY HAVE TO DO THIS??? I am so tired of Robin Thicke being a
whipping boy! Really, really tired of this! I am a grown woman who has
been in situations that could only be called rape and I am still
standing and able to take control of my life and sexuality without this
continual backlash and blaming. I do understand that
some women have had very traumatic experiences and I am sorry for that
and I hope they are getting help for that, I don't mean to discount
their experience, but to make Robin Thicke the current whipping boy for
what they experienced is really ridiculous! If he had never recorded
this song, who would they be projecting their fear and rage on?? Who
would have been chosen to pour your emotions and "outrage" on?? Sorry,
but I am just sick and tired of all the bullshit with dumping on this
song as if the song or Robin Thicke is responsible!!!
SGH — September 19, 2013
I
agree, but only to a certain extent. The problem is, the kind of girls
that he is singing about, the kind that WANT to be dominated, the kind
that want to pretend they don't want it, but really do, etc... Those
girls really are out there. So yeah, the song could be translated as
male dominance without consent, (to their point, it is REALLY unsettling
that he uses common phrases spoken by rapists). But it can also be put
in the context of him singing it to the poor, unfortunate souls out
there who he is actually describing. It's sad that he's promoting that
kind of behavior, in any case.
cdawn — September 19, 2013
I was raped and I love this song.
And I don't find it's words trigger anything or its lyrics reminding me of rape.
Rhisify — September 19, 2013
Thank You to the people who had there photos taken for this article.
NotTryinToStartAnything — September 19, 2013
I do not see why there is a debate here, and I doubt any of you are right. We cant know exactly what inspired this song, so we can't criticize the artist. The disturbing thing here is that there is even a debate- if we lived in a society where we could communicate more openly, particularly with young people, about the importance of sexual consent, there would not be a norm of using agressive language in a sexual context. of course, we can't blame one stupid guy trying to sell records for using the language of his peers; it is simply abnormal to commercially produce something like "I know you want it cos i asked, i'll respect yo virgin ass". 18-25 year old audiences feel like they get laid a lot more if they blast music about getting laid....maybe its a freudian thing or whatever i leave that hypothesis to the trolls.
My point is that most people are guilty of using language that gives a very wrong impression of their desires, so we shouldn't chastise those who happen to be in the public eye. However, we should take this as a wake up call to change what we can about how our society thinks about sex and violence, because it's clear that such agressive methods of expression may be giving young people the wrong idea. I hate to be the guy that blames the education system, but I do. I go to a school that has a number of mandatory consent meetings and workshops and has an active student led sexual consent group, and it still makes me happy and surprised every time im sitting with some drunk guy in their room and they ask if they can please kiss me (or whatever). It shouldn't be strange. I'm not saying there aren't sexual assaults here, but women are definitely more empowered to say no with words or force when it does happen because more respectful gentlemen always remind us that we have options
AstroPhil — September 19, 2013
Interesting interpretation of the song. I have to say that there is quite a bit of sense in the analysis, but like all artistic interpretations, it is ultimately an opinion. Viewed as such, there is plenty of validity, but not certainty. I think that what the writer fails to consider is that there are certain women and men who actually enjoy consensual sex that happens to be just a tad bit naughty. Domination, hair pulling, spanking, anal sex and yes, even rape fantasies, are fairly common consensual sexual behaviors. In this case, it's just as easy to draw positive conclusions about the meaning behind certain cherry-picked lyrics. Furthermore, dominance, power struggles, and even pain can be powerful parts of sex and do not necessarily have to be negative. Sex is very rarely a polite, clean, gentle experience.
Sex Kitten Party — September 19, 2013
One more thing....guys lets not confuse forced rape with consensual roleplay. The two are not the same. The distinct difference is consent on behalf of the GIRL!
If you like "rape roleplay" that doesn't mean you're a rapist. It means you like kinky sex. And by all means, get your kink on--who am I to judge.
At the end of the day the only thing that matters is whether you ACTUALLY raped a girl, not whether you liked to pretend to with a consenting partner.
UGH! — September 19, 2013
Robin Thicke is R and B ... most songs are about sex. There are a lot worse songs out there then this one. When i first heard this song rape didn't cross my mind once. get over it move on.
Truth — September 19, 2013
From the artists themselves.
They came up with the lyrics by things they think men/ they would holler at girls if they were trying to hit on them.
Bam. End of story. Literally. Thats it.
duh — September 19, 2013
The song is called "Blurred Lines." Come on folks. Blurred ethical lines. Duh. Like, come on.
Ablyvian — September 19, 2013
Google:Consensual Non-consent. It's a fetish people. A pretty prevailent one. Which is probably why the damn song is so hugely popular. Also am I the only bi-sexual un-ashamed sadist on this page that can honestly say I've "torn a few asses up"? Until I saw a meme about Miley on MTV I'd never even heard of robin thicke. Just not my kind of music. But I really don't think it's any worse than Rihanna and that "s&m" song. Not because I think there's anything inherently wrong with the themes. I'm an active member of the NYC BDSM lifestyle. What alarms me about songs like this is that they are left dangerously open to ignorant interpretation. Can a musician hellbent on portraying this aspect of the human experience mention the finely detailed,intense dialogue that precludes S.S.C. play. I don't need a whole stanza lol. Maybe just mention the phrase "safe word"?
rick — September 19, 2013
The only thing worse than lyrics like these is some idiots pegging people as rapists. Say what you want, the song is not about or promoting what you're saying its promoting. This is just someone taking a shot at a popular song to promote their agenda. I am COMPLETELY against sexual crimes towards women. But this is misreprentation and ridiculous. There are people looking at this thinking that the signs being held are the lyrics of the song. Yea it's a vulgar song, like the 93172409123019 just like it. Just because you drew these conclusions doesn't make the song what you're making it to be. OFF TARGET. That. Is "childish". Similar things like this have been made in the past. Some guy PROMISED he knew FOR SURE the meaning of "Stairway to Heaven" and that it was a message from Satan. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant then laughed at the claim. I don't think I'd laugh at this one if I were Robin Thicke.
Meg — September 19, 2013
This is probably one of the stupidest things I've ever read.
Kate — September 19, 2013
I found this pretty offensive, suggesting that just because a woman enjoys parts of sex that are painful or slightly demeaning or strange is pushing down people's sexuality much like you're trying to prevent, not everyone likes plain vanilla sex; though there are boundaries, people are different. This song may not be suggesting what you think it is. Many women have things they like about sex that are similar to what is in this song and it is extremely offensive that you're suggesting these desires make her different and bad.
Don't get me wrong, this song is bad and can be applied very wrongly. And I am all for trying to stop this type of thing from continuing. And I am in no way saying these people aren't victims. But part of what prevents many women from speaking up about their sexuality and further oppressing them are things saying they are weird. You may want to rethink the way you worded this just as Thicke should rethink this song.
John — September 19, 2013
I like how feminists are going on about how much they hate Robin Thicke what a rapist etc - He's a douchey pop singer, not a fucking rapist.
ya-right — September 19, 2013
This article is fucking retarded.
redmid17 — September 20, 2013
It's way less about rape than "Baby It's Cold Outside" by Dean Martin. Don't be judicious in your outrage.
Frankly the music video is far better than anything Dean Martin did. Emily Ratajkowski saw to that
sebastian — September 20, 2013
WOW. People. The article is not suggesting that Robin Thicke is deliberately promoting rape culture, but that his lyrics do. There is a difference. The lyrics perpetuate this andro-normative line of thinking which is the major reason why rape continues to take place. Nobody is calling Thicke a rapist or a rapist sympathiser necessarily, but the lyrics are literally patriarchal propaganda and with patriarchy comes rape. We need to abolish it, and this article, while it takes a shocking approach, is ultimately about highlighting a GREAT example of male entitlement pervading pop culture, young people's minds, etc. I have no children of my own, but I abhor the idea of my nieces and nephews (especially my nephews) growing up thinking that this kind of language is acceptable or 'normal' at all !!
genieboii — September 20, 2013
Here's some lyrics to "Toxic" by Britney Spears
"There’s no escape
I can’t wait"
Hmmm.... sounds like something a rapist would say to their victim. Pretty aggressive in your wordplay there Britney, why don't you ask for consent before you corner a helpless man into forced, brutal, violent, and sexually deviant intercourse?
"Baby, give me it"
But shouldn't you really say, "Baby, give me it...... But only if we are intimate monogamous partners and you're sure about giving me permission?"
"It’s getting late
To give you up"
Yeah, Britney you rape propagandist, you tell all these predatory women to never give up in their perverse and ravenous sexual appetites. You are disgusting.
Well, I think it's pretty clear that Britney Spears, like Robin Thicke, is, to put it simply, a very big fan of rape. I mean, there's really no other way to interpret the song guys open your eyes! This is the exact kind of non-consensual sexual behavior that women are constantly being told is ok by people like Britney Spears! Men are not just toys that women can manipulate sexually for their own pleasure.
P.S. If you cannot tell I am being sarcastic, please go to the local clown school and ask them to teach you how to swallow knives.
ann16 — September 20, 2013
i think you all are nuts. it is a song, why do you have to make the artist look like the bad guy. the song is about sex. girls are whores, this isn't about rape.
T.I. — September 20, 2013
Lol
Kulushi — September 20, 2013
I want to start by asking everyone to cut the BS concerning rough sex. Pulling hair and smacking assess is something that virtually every woman I have been with adores. If they haven't done it before, they end up loving it. Of course there are exceptions and I believe some women wouldn't like it.
But to suggest that these lyrics in particular are "rapey" in nature is a loooooong stretch, and potentially damning to women who enjoy in this type of sex. Suppression of women's sexuality is a deeply rooted and wipe spread societal problem, and saying freaky sex is bad for a woman to enjoy further increases this suppression.
Let me start by saying I developed my attitude on this topic (correlation between Robin thicke's song and rape culture perpetuation) more from the comments below than the article itself.
Speaking as young man very unfamilar with rape culture as a whole, I could not fathom how these lyrics could contribute to the persistence of rape. If one is ignorant of the culture or the concept, one will not connect those dots. Just like the vast majority of Men, women, teenages and children. For a massive majority of people, this song will have a negligible effect on their attitudes towards sexual equality during intimacy.
But for the small group of people who ever see rape as a viable option, which it ABSOLUTELY NEVER IS, I could see how a song like this, or a constant stream of lyrics suggestive of patriarchal sexual dominance, could perpetuate incorrect social standards based on (pardon my french) a f#*ked up interpretation. I could definitely see that.
As long as people distinctly differentiate the difference between Thicke/Pharrell/T.I.'s intent and the potential interpretation of the song that is detrimental to sexual equality, I think its fair.
I've enjoyed everyone's opinions, from the feminists to the chauvinists.
xzanthius — September 20, 2013
I dont mind the song if only for the disgust and accompanying social discourse. Like it or not there is an inherent power disbalance between men and women (owing to overall size and muscle mass). That being said this disbalance has been woven into the very fibers of heterosexual (and even homosexual) relations. That there are 'blurred lines' is obvious. Our intentions however should be to constantly clarify these lines, in that respect the song (with accompanying discourse) does just that.
Anonymouse — September 20, 2013
'Blurred lines', a feminist interpretation.
Since everyone is saying it doesn't matter what Thicke ACTUALLY intends to say but that it could be used in a negative way to promote patriarchal male dominance over women and rape culture in general, I'd like to point out that actually there is a very different message that is being conveyed. Thicke's lyrics actually contain, in my view, quite a refreshing look on female sexuality.
To start with 'blurred lines' are referring to mixed signals sent out by women who do not have confidence in themselves as sexual agents because of the message society sends out to women that a woman who actively pursues her sexual interests is a 'slut'. More precisely she is taking a dominating role that is both sexually liberating and intimidating to certain men.
In the lyrics, it then says,
"OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker"
What is more oppressive than a man ultra-conservative ideals about female sexuality (a "square") who tries to tame and prevent a woman playing her role as sexual agent in her own right?
"Can't let it get past me
You're far from plastic
Talk about getting blasted
I hate these blurred lines
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it"
"You're far from plastic", i.e. you can play an active sexual role as well. And in this context it's clear what he means by "blurred lines" and "I know you want it", i.e. they've been playing sexual games most of the night, which Thicke doesn't like having to try hard to impress a woman. From her signals it's clear she has some interest in him (please don't equate this with, "she looked at me sexy therefore she wants to jump in bed with me") and "I know you want it" is just a form of dirty talk in this context. Yes it's a phrase that has been used by rapists many times to subdue their victims, make them feel ashamed but this has nothing to do with the context of the song. To assume anything else is to make a wild leap of logic.
"I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two"
This is not necessary a reference to anal sex, it could easily be talking about rough doggy sex. Either way if a woman likes to play a submissive role in sex it doesn't matter if she enjoys rough doggy sex, rough anal sex, whatever. YOU CANNOT EQUATE THIS WITH RAPE CULTURE. A woman is perfectly entitled to play whatever sexual role she wants to in sex, to suggest otherwise is actually an oppressive and patriarchal ideology, or something done in misguided will, by 'feminists' who think they know what's best for this particular woman.
"Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that"
Again, her old boyfriend didn't like rough sex, she did, they aren't compatible. There's nothing wrong with her liking rough sex and going for a man that will fulfill her true sexual needs.
Old Fool — September 20, 2013
Well, consent. The point is that sex has been degraded to this extent by the masses. It used to be a beautiful thing. It used to be with someone you loved, between husband and wife. The moment pre-marital sex was viewed as freedom, that is the moment morals lost their value.
Colm W — September 20, 2013
Good article.
Although I feel I should point out, the song does also make a nod towards consent "One thing I ask of you//Let me be the one you back that ass to".
I agree, the song is still creepy as hell, but no-one seems to be talking about that line.
Vanilla — September 20, 2013
With complete and total respect for the brave victims of rape who have shared here, many of the lines in Robin Thicke's song are things that have either been said by or that I'd be completely comfortable hearing with my own spouse. I was raped when I was 17 and lost my virginity to a 24-year-old - and this song never struck me as being about coerced, non-consensual sex. I can't argue that rapists have said similar things to their victims and I don't want to detract from their courage in sharing. But there simply are things that a rapist might say that a non-rapist might say also to a completely compliant, consenting partner who genuinely enjoys more than just 'vanilla' sex. Just as, although I find the presence of mostly-naked women in the music video personally pretty ridiculous, they weren't forced to be there. I'm sure they were aware, when shooting, that they were going to be out there for the world to see and it doesn't seem to bother them. And then there's Miley Cyrus, but she's a nutcase for another day...
Rose — September 20, 2013
I think those who keep saying we are missing the point of the song are just people who don't want to accept the fact that obviously this song has stirred something frightening in the minds of those rioting against it. Yes you might not see it or feel it but one person sensing rape signs in this song is enough to make it wrong and creepy.
Also yes this might not be the only song that down right insults women and treats them as sex toys but THIS is the beginning. We should start from somewhere and apparently this is the beginning.
Also even if the song doesn't have rape shout outs(which it does) it still is not OK for people to just consider their inhuman sexual preferences as normal.
Questionmark — September 20, 2013
While I agree with these sorts of analyses, and could have posted this anywhere, and there's no sense defending Thicke (that's not my intention, I don't like the song, because it's really weak music) but what seems to be a common dismissal in these sorts of reactions, is the fact that he creates a loophole for himself by including "the way you grab me, must want to get nasty." That, to me, implies the hypothetical "good girl" is doing at least doing some of the touching---she is dropping physical hints that she may or may not want to have sex, and for many a man (probably not those like Robin Thicke who can get sex fairly easy by virtue of their having a studio contract), when a woman starts to touch them, especially grab them, this creates an incredibly difficult to read, i.e. "blurred line." Somehow the rest of the song fails itself on this premise--but that one line always sticks with me. If she grabs him, by all things I seem to understand about things like the Golden Rule in most religions, then he should feel comfortable, and not as though she assumes he's a rapist, if he just grabs her back---note also that the song doesn't say anything about the girl telling him no----so we've got this one potential story, admittedly poorly constructed, but a story nonetheless, in which two people may innocently have a dance which involves grabbing. (I understand it's wrong to ASSUME that dancing leads to full-on sex, but it will certainly always lead to heightened sexuality, or stimulated sexual drives.) But, seriously, either agent should say no after saying the "yes" of grabbing , if going further is not hoped for, and the other agent should by all means respect that "no."
Dre — September 20, 2013
big whoop, right on time. Majority of pop culture has been promoting these attitudes for at least a decade. And it's not only music, but also shiny magazines, ads, movies etc. There is plenty of songs, which are, or were on top, portraying a submissive woman, some kind of accesory, which should look good, f*ck and do what she's told. Unfortunately, I see more and more young girls aspiring to this role. They're usually concerned only about their looks and if they are perceived by boys/men as potential sex objects. Being surrounded by the mentioned messages, they don't know any better. It's a f*cked up world.
Andi — September 20, 2013
Ok so before you criticize a song for being about rape, analyze the whole thing. Don't pick out bits and pieces of the song and take them out of context. And do some research as to WHY Robin Thicke wrote the song. I'm pretty sure he's said dozens of times it's about women empowerment... But back to analyzing the whole song, you forgot some lines that are crucial in the song...
OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
Just let me liberate you
Hey, hey, hey
You don't need no papers
Hey, hey, hey
That man is not your maker
I don't think him telling her that a man can't control her and that she's too powerful to be made into a homemaker has anything to do with rape...
Plus I think you forgot this:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/23229647
Yes, you can take bits and pieces of this song (or any song really) and take it out of context, but seriously... rape is such a touchy subject, and unless you look at the song as a whole, you shouldn't criticize someone of thinking it's ok.
Anon — September 20, 2013
I agree with the article 100% and I'm gonna pretend that BDSM doesn't exist. I mean, come on, there's no way women can enjoy rough sex, never have and never will! Because I view the song in a really negative way, that means the song is negative in nature, no way there could be another viewpoint! Just rape!
Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go and live in fear for the rest of my life, a whole lot of rappers say they're going to harm or hurt haters and critics, so my days are very limited, clearly.
Jason Ingit — September 20, 2013
Get up. Fight for yourself. Eat. Then back to bed. No time for whining. Fight for yourself or don't.
C — September 20, 2013
People still say, "Don't get raped.", and that's the problem in this country. People (men and women alike) are afraid to be outside at night and are forced keep defensive weapons with them in fear of being assaulted, raped, and/or killed by another human being. That's flat out fucked up. Do we have to start telling people, "Don't rape anyone." every time they step outside or something?
Derp — September 20, 2013
I am a male who was sexually assaulted by a female. I was told by society that "guys don't get raped by girls", and "you should just have enjoyed it." This song is ridiculous, just like half the shit that comes out these days. Thicke is a chauvinistic pig 100%. The problem is that people listen to this song, dance to this song, and more importantly, buy this song. Why? I can guaranty you that the high majority of the people who hear this song do not think about rape when they hear this song. Just as the high majority of people don't analyze the lyrics of all of the songs they hear. Where am I going with this? The girl who raped me did not think it was rape, and to be honest, I don't blame her. Why? Because society has told her to be that way. You are blaming Thicke, but in the end it is the people who are buying his shit that are to blame. How does any artist become popular? Would he be singing, spreading, and getting paid for that shit if he wasn't popular? Human society, in the end, is terrible. Or is it? Where there is bad there is always good. Ipso facto, where there is good there is bad. For every respectful, intelligent, good guy, there is a jackass who doesn't know the first thing about respect. Same goes for women. There will always be issues with society. Instead of analyzing song lyrics and using valuable brain power, how about just being one of those great people that spreads their morals and uses their obviously significant brain power to become as popular as Thicke. Then you can spread your views and make art that you think is worth contributing to society.
feminism student — September 20, 2013
i hate you :) the message is in the medium, trying to decode this as more than a song with a catchy beat would be to inappropriately try to derive a meaning that simply doesnt exist. but i can see how this could piss any close minded person off.
chris — September 20, 2013
This is what is wrong with society today. not this song, but the fact that everyone thinks it's okay to be so uptight over every little thing. If you have a problem with this song, why not just ignore it and let the people who like to listen to fun music enjoy it instead of trying to ruin it for everybody. You people have too much time on your hands. Quit looking for something offensive in everything and try to have fun every once in a while.
kevrone — September 20, 2013
It's absolutely horrible what happened to these people. No one should be forced into a sexual situation. Ever. And it is a bit creepy that some of the same things said by rapists are some of the same lyrics in the song. However, there are plenty of consenting adults who use this sort of language during sex acts. Role play is a thing. And there are plenty of normal, healthy, people who use pain as part of their stimulus. The difference is the care one takes with their partner to be absolutely sure both involved are willing participants. My girlfriend and I both find this song to be sexy as hell, but I can understand why someone else might find it offensive. It all depends on where you're coming from and how you've been hurt in the past. And, it's art. Plenty of violence and crime is depicted in art (slasher films!) to varying degrees of entertainment and meaning. I don't believe Thicke is trying to be too deep or promoting any particular viewpoint, but it IS interesting how much interpretation there is to be had around some very simple lyrics!
hebs — September 20, 2013
Just wanted to share this picture. Domestic violence awareness month is in October everyone. More often than most realize we know our rapists.
Cristina — September 20, 2013
People need to stop and understand that this was not his intentions of the song. There are so many other songs that actually do have rapists intentions... I don't understand why this song is singled out.
SkaMP — September 20, 2013
Listening to this song doesn't make me respect women less or ignore what they want. It doesn't make me rape people and say "I know you want it".
Rape and sexual assault are terrible things and a culture where rape victims are dismissed as crybabies is horrible, BUT
I don't see a problem with this song.
stop relying on the telly to tell your kids what's good and what's bad.
The Times — September 20, 2013
I haven't read so much pointless bickering in all my life. The attention the controversy has provided this song has only increased its profile, page views, and yes, revenue. Songs like this will continue to be written, and the attention you place on it will only make that more of a fact. Unless you critics are going to go out and call for some kind of law against free speech (and I hope for the sake of democracy and a free society you don't), then these songs will always be written, and your words are a waste of time.
A human or has seen injustice — September 20, 2013
I think the interpretation of the song and everyones argument of what it means is clouding the real message. And that is although we all know rape is wrong, our society shames the victims more than the perpetrators. And it's not just women who are told because they were drunk, drugged or dressed in a certain way or behaved in a certain way. But also men who are raped but have the unfortunate natural reaction to feel some pleasure. This is trying far more to point out that no matter what the victim did sex without consent is rape. It has nothing to do with fetishes, behavior, race and tbh rape also has nothing to do with sex it is and has always been about control. If the victims feel they have no right to stand up and gain justice then their control is lost and the abusers win.
And the shameful thing is the victims have no control to stand up and many no longer bother as the shame of being told it was their fault means it's easier for them to remain quite, than seek justice. How we can put a stop and change this is a more important argument.
smartperson — September 20, 2013
lots of fat ugly bitches in these pictures
Cameron Purdie — September 20, 2013
If you don't think these phrases could be used to describe completely consensual sex, then you have a boring sex life.
Ddlw44 — September 20, 2013
Do you not pay attention to the words in a song. OMG this set us back in time... Please don't promote this song anymore.
Coondog — September 20, 2013
I propose a solution... Stop listening to blithering idiots (a la Mr. Thicke) and enjoy real musicians such as Radiohead, NIN, Gorillaz, Tame Impala, etc. There are so many under-appreciated musicians out there and it's because people make a fuss over this nonsense. In my experience, if you ignore someone they will probably go away.
nish — September 20, 2013
I honestly think that people have gone completely overboard with the meaning of this song. This is not a "rapist anthem", that is just the way it is perceived by some people especially rape victims. I understand because I am a rape victim myself but the bottom line is this song is not about rape. I really do think that if this song wasn't as popular as it is then there wouldn't be as much controversy as there is over this song.
swswag — September 20, 2013
Robin Thicke is an true roll model for men everywhere
A Submissive with an Opinion — September 20, 2013
I see the parallels you draw, and this is an excellent way to discuss the MAJOR issue of rape. However, I personally view the song in a different way. To me, he's a Dom, and the girl he cherishes is a Sub new to the world of BDSM/bondage. It's about society's repressing of her true desires, and he's trying to help her give in to those desires that are so incredibly looked down upon by our society.
For that reason, I cherish "Blurred Lines," because it feels very relatable to me. I can see how it can be triggery to victims of rape, though. It's amazing how different people can interpret the same thing so differently.
sarah — September 20, 2013
I actually have to disagree with the gist of the article. I'm not sure why this song is getting the bad rap while all the disgusting horrible stuff out there isn't as much, but basically there ARE shades of gray. There is no reason that a woman should be made to feel like there are only black and white solutions. Good friends can get drunk and take advantage. Sometimes 'less than conscensual' sex occurs and apologies are in order, not cops and permanent stigma (on both parties btw, not just the one not allowed near schools) What is this 'women don't need to be convinced' stuff? Some women don't know who they like before they even talk to them. I've experienced regrettable decisions, rape, lovemaking, not quite conscentual sex within relationships because of a tiff or a fight, apologies, apologies that should have happened but didn't, marriage, divorce, good relationships, "I'm an idiot" relationships and am currently very happy. And the poor guy can't make a move on me because he's heard that there are no 'shades of gray'. Can we talk about this instead of just fighting?
ELP — September 20, 2013
While I find much of the imagery in thicke's inexplicably popular song to be degrading and regrettable, this article completely fails to take into account that there are some of us humans, some of them women, who like to be talked to like that, and who like sex to be vigorous, rough, and even violent.
Before we get angry read the next line carefully:
-> WITH FIRMLY ESTABLISHED AND SPECIFIC CONSENT that is perfectly okay. <-
But the tone here, in this article, frankly vilianizes my sexuality and that of my partners. And that's a slippery slope to a different kind of evil.
scheherazade — September 20, 2013
heard recently - 'consent is not enough, wait for enthusiasm' !
Hippo hippo — September 20, 2013
I feel this could have been much more constructive without criticizing a song line for line. I apriciate this, but I think it is fucked up to call it a "rape anthem". Stand for what you believe in, but don't call specific people out and attack them or try to make it seem like they support rape.
Matt — September 20, 2013
To the men who defend Robin Thicke on here, who defend lack of consent, who defend the entitlement of men to encourage violence, or to commit violence. The mere fact that you' re NOT LISTENING to the experience of thousands of women here and everywhere leads me to rest my case and assume that you personally are promoting a violent culture where you can shamelessly commit acts of violence. You are in fact rapists.
Jumbo J — September 20, 2013
I feel this could have been much more constructive without criticizing a song line for line. I apriciate this, but I think it is fucked up to call it a "rape anthem". Stand for what you believe in, but don't call specific people out and attack them or try to make it seem like they support rape.
Wonder winner — September 20, 2013
I feel this could have been much more constructive without criticizing a song line for line. I apriciate this, but I think it is fucked up to call it a "rape anthem". Stand for what you believe in, but don't call specific people out and attack them or try to make it seem like they support rape.
AHole — September 20, 2013
OMG I'm going to hell when it said "I'll give you something to tear your ass in two" and under it, it said "TURN OVER, I hope you like ANAL" I know it's so bad but it made me laugh.
And no don't go crazy I'm against rape but I have a sinister sense of humor, I'm sorry.
and — September 21, 2013
read the damn chorus...its about sexual relations that anyone who thinks this song is offensive have never experienced. The girl is obviously into him and he was to express the same kind of interest in a way that from the lyrics is consensual. Grow up....seriously grow up.
Anthony — September 21, 2013
It's just a song, I'm sorry I am definitely against the unfortunate domineering of men over women in society, but I am more so against the censorship of artistic expression simply because of an interpretation that is offensive, especially when (which I believe is the case here), that it is satire. It's also not the first catchy tune to have dark undertones. Pumped up kicks was about a school shooting, 99 red balloons was about cities leveled to dust by nuclear war. It's not like the singer's support these things, they are true parts of realities whether we like them or not and people have the right to create freely.
Wren — September 21, 2013
The basic argument of this article is just poor logic. Rapists sometimes say x, y and z, therefore someone who says x, y and z, is either a rapist or supporting rape.
Cherry picking certain lines and interpreting them out of context just increases the logical problems here.
Bones — September 21, 2013
There's also a parody made by a man pointing out how "rapey" it is (also poking fun of other things with the song). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3twwafch4g
sympathetically cynical. — September 21, 2013
One of the victims has a sign that reads "you're beautiful", should we re-examine James Blunt too? In fact, read the lyrics and the song appears to be Blunt fantasizing about being with a stranger "i've got a plan" he warbles... sinister. "She could see by my face, I was fucking high".... Drugs too?
Or maybe I'm taking the lyrics out of context in order to back up my ridiculous point... Oh hang on!
Brooke — September 21, 2013
I am not justifying rape at all, but ladies, show some respect to the male just as you would want the male to respect you. If you don't want to have sex then don't ge into a situation where, you have been dry humping each other when you have no intentions on going farther. This is to protect yourself. Just know that the guy you're with could be a sick piece of shit and that getting half naked with him could lead to him wanting more and taking it. I know that this isn't the case for every woman, and that some guys have serious delusions about what is a " lead on," but you should go in to every possible sexual encounter with caution, especially if you don't have any plans on going "all the way." Just face the facts, guys who rape are mentally unstable, don't give a total stranger a half naked body and then expect not to do anything, it is to protect yourself from a possible rapist. I'm not saying that it is your fault if you get raped, what I am saying is that you can avoid setting off SOME types of rapists if you are careful not to get yourself into a rapist's ideal situation to rape. Like don't go anywhere alone with him, don't get into a situation where you are with just him and his friends, definately don't get so drunk that your ability to say no is compromised or that you won't be able to defend yourself. Just be smart out there, ladies! Have fun, but be careful!
sanfran21 — September 21, 2013
saw the video, heard the song
It is awful that men are writing these songs and these lyrics are popular and it is awful that women are participating in these videos and not realizing they are promoting this culture along with the men and are just walking around like a piece of meat to be enjoyed and controlled by men. This is the fault of both sexes.
Colin Graham — September 21, 2013
The worse part is that his wife is ok with the video and even asked him to post naked with the women in the video..What a betrayal to her sisterhood
storyteller — September 21, 2013
When I was raped (and I was a virgin) I was told "don't tell me you don't want it" "you pretend to be a good girl", and there was no question that I was screaming no and trying to get away. The second time I was raped (I know, great luck, eh?) twenty years later in my car by a stranger who followed me, I was also told "you want it, you want it, fucking take it" and other such things, and that time my face also got bashed in. I have never heard pop lyrics so specifically and horrifically rape culture before this. Discord and others who hide whatever personal motivations by intellectualizing this argument obviously don't know what they are talking about or obviously do and want to keep violating others with this sort of dismissal. Thank you very much for writing this article. I will share it and actively protest his concert in Vancouver.
Jack — September 21, 2013
Oh my god it's only a song people!
Te'Vell Winston — September 21, 2013
Oh Zeus in Olympus, this is absolutely ridiculous.
I'm sure if I point out some song that I don't like, and over analyse the lyrics I can come up with a negative, or positive connotation if I can convince you of it.
And from what I'm seeing here, wouldn't be too hard.
There are hundreds,no, thousands of regular rap and R&B songs that could, and would go into this category. But suddenly the white guy doing it makes it wrong.
Maybe, like other songs, he was talking to a specific person? Or describing his 'dream girl'? Or maybe he was subliminally messaging aliens from outer space to tell them the time was now to invade the earth now that the femnazi's are distracted by a SONG.
But who am I to assume. I'm sure you got Robin's background of the song? His reasons why? The inspiration? Maybe even how the director felt, and why she saw what she saw?
(Yeah, I said she)
If you did, you happened to miss putting them in this extremely biased, and one sided 'article'.
Because if you're taking songs that even sound remotely close to this, and taking them apart, you've got a hell of a lot of work to do.
Or maybe it only got attention because of how popular it was. Hmm.
#FeministMILF — September 21, 2013
Amazing how counterpoint arguments are conveniently deleted..
Li'l D — September 21, 2013
I am so distressed by some of the names of the women posting here who also happen to think that this is no big deal. It's a very big deal. Who are you women, how were you raised, that you feel the urge to put yourself out there with a neon sign saying "SEX, RIGHT HERE" pointed at you? Is this the ONE WAY you want the world to see you? This is the first impression you want to give? The first idea about you that you want to convey is that you are really good at having a d*** in you? Do you want to be understood? Do you want to be viewed as a thinking person, at all? That is no longer possible when you choose an identity that revolves around the idea that men want to bag you.
I can't understand why so many women want to be associated directly with sex. Men would look at you if you were wearing a mumu and a bag over your head and they will still be attracted to you because you are a woman. That's the way nature works. Your existence can be so much deeper than....you wore short skirts and a bunch of people wanted to lay you down and pound you.
I don't understand! You women are the result of rape culture and you don't even know it. You choose to be an object instead of a person and then you all speak with such authority about how we are all uptight because we recognize that you are a major effect of this problem.
You all make me want to cry.
Lassy — September 21, 2013
The misogyny in the song can't be denied. It is blatantly sexual and shows little regard for whatever woman or women the song's "narrative" is describing other than in a sexual context. However, I think the song is being given a somewhat unfair treatment.
I'll be honest, I don't think this one song in particular is perpetuating rape or rape culture more than MANY other songs. Yes, this song glorifies violent sex. Yes, this song is portraying male dominance and a good girl/whore dichotomy.
But I think these things have to be taken in context. And the context of this song is one that parallels a few experiences I've had in real life that were actually positive experiences for me.
I'm going to be blunt here. I like rough sex. Not all the time - there is a time and a place. But I AM one of those role playing girls and I LOVE having my hair pulled. And I've done that coquettish thing where you act shy and sweet while flirting. (What girl hasn't?)
I enjoy this song because it describes POSITIVE experiences I've had and it's damn catchy to boot.
I honestly think this song is being used as a scapegoat. It's really easy to say, "Hey ladies, look at this misogynistic man singing about rape. This is why women get raped." It's easy to take pop culture and portrayals of sexuality in the media and trace it back causally to social problems. It's harder to say, "Some women really like rough sex. But no still means no."
Of course I want to be respected - both personally and sexually. I want to be treated fairly and with kindness. I don't want to be taken advantage of. I don't want to be RAPED. And the line between consensual and nonconsensual is clear cut. But maybe the line between socially acceptable sexual behaviors and sexual behaviors that are not socially acceptable isn't as clear. Because what I'm getting out of a lot of these comments is that it's NOT ok for a woman to want to have her hair pulled or her ass slapped during sex, and that - even if a woman asks for it - it's not ok for a man to want it or to give it. Why not? To me, the song describes a pretty specific type of sexual encounter. No, it may not be accurate for everyone, but it is to me and probably to many other people.
Instead of blaming songs for perpetuating rape and violence, why not blame rapists for rape and abusers for violence? Just five short years ago, Chris Brown violently attacked his then-girlfriend Rihanna. I still hear people - GIRLS, in fact - saying things like, "If he was really so bad, why did she go back to him?" "She probably deserved it," and "But his songs are sooo catchy." Robin Thicke has a wife who seems very content with their relationship and very supportive of his musical career. Since his brief domestic violence scandal, Chris Brown has gone on to receive several award nominations, win several actual awards, and place number one on the charts quite a few times.
Instead of demonizing a song artist who chose to portray women sexually in a way that was, yes, probably offensive to a lot of people (but was honestly also pretty accurate to others), maybe we should demonize actual abusers -and maybe we should stop nominating them for awards and giving them money.
Above all else, I think we really need to educate people about what exactly rape is. We need to hit it home to men that no ALWAYS means no, and we need to let girls know that it's OK to say no at all. And we can teach our children not to let what we see on TV or hear in a song direct the way we act in our own personal lives. We can't expect every song to follow a perfect moral compass. We can't expect every song artist or media personality to be politically correct. But we can expect that for ourselves, and we can lead by example.
Dave — September 22, 2013
I agree with what you are saying in regard to consent however I disagree with what you are stating here regarding what Robin Thickes video is about, you are saying it as tho it is a fact and trying to prove it at the expense of people that have genuinely been raped and that's just discusting. The things that have happened to the people holding the signs on here is terrible however these phrases are not just used in rape scenario's, I have had women say to me "you know you want it" and many other things that you mention here (I mean for god's sake I have had people hold an ice cream in front of me and say go on you know you wan't it), yet I didn't consider that I was being raped, this article isn't objective as it should be, it's manipulative I mean you are talking like Robin Thicke visited you and told you that Him and director who is a woman called Diane Martel sat down and said lets make a song about rape from this web page. Its complete manipulation and the person who wrote this article should be ashamed of themselves but they won't be because they don't care, they are doing this to get attention for this web site for themselves.
m b — September 22, 2013
What a crock of shit this article is.
Adrian Sherlock — September 22, 2013
Unfortunately, that's what's called a logic problem or logical fallacy.
It's like "rapists say this thing, this thing rapists say is in the song, therefore the song is about rape." But people who are not rapists
say the same thing. Therefore the argument is flawed logic. So anyone
who says this song is definitely about rape should not try for a career
as a lawyer. The article/blog here resorts to a massive appeal to the emotions to persuade the reader. Logic and sense suggest every consensual couple who've ever decided to "talk dirty" have said (variations of) the same things in the song lyrics to each other. The vast majority of men who say or even think such things as found in the song are not rapists, for the basic reasons that they know rape is wrong, they know it's a crime and they want women to like and ultimately love them, not just have sex with them. Logic suggests most men who says such things are not rapists.
Hannah — September 22, 2013
I can't believe that nonsense... shaming on a songwriter. I haven't seen you pooping your pants after Britney sang "Hit me baby one more time" the first time and making it about sexism. Unbelievable. The author of this article is ridiculous. I'm sitting here and waiting for the next song of some band to come out and be teared apart from the unbalanced bull dykes...
Selena — September 22, 2013
Modern feminism is the most aggressive, shaming thing ever I see. You can't even make a song anymore without having to fear that every line get picked at and compared with something negative. What time to be alive...
Daniel — September 22, 2013
Jesus Christ, this is one of the most absurd pieces of drivel I have read.
Only feminists make this song about rape, the song writers said that it's about the blurred line of getting with another man's woman -- who are you gonna believe, those whose song it is or a bunch of whiny cows who love to be victimised?
It's hilarious that you're quick to play the victim card for the 'the way you grab me' line, that sounds like Thicke is being sexually harassed but no, men seem to be immune to sexual assault in your blinkered world.
Sex without verbal consent is most often a non-issue, it's perfectly
acceptable to read someone's body language -- not ask questions -- to know whether they are willing to get down. Feminists go up in arms about that because it's what they perceive as part of "rape culture", which is an anti-male smear campaign to shame them all for being rapists. "Rape culture" is how they interpret things in society and want other people to see it, it's not a real concept. If men had the same mindset as you and the rest of the bitch brigade, regarding what classes as consensual sex or not, a lot more women would be considered rapists.
mrs rocketman — September 22, 2013
i think he is a pig if he truly believe his lyrics. if a man ever tried something like that on me i would bring him to his knees by hurting his manhood so badly he would never be able to father a child to grow up just like him.
A — September 22, 2013
Who cares about the details, all you have to know its that its an occultic song and should be avoided
Ivan Ackley — September 22, 2013
I dont see the problem in saying "I know you want it." Ive said that before to girls before sex, its a form of verbal foreplay. Now if she replies "No i don't want it" and you proceed to have sex with her, obviously that is rape. And "Im gonna tear that ass up" is not literal, its slang. It does not mean " im gonna violently fuck you", and it most certainly does not equate to sodomy. It just means that Im gonna pound you hard, which some girls really enjoy.
oldlinedevil — September 22, 2013
Lmao at self absorbed clownholes assuming that this song is about them. Stick to your Carly Simon cassingles, er, ladies. -Meanwhile Miley keeps swinging buck naked on that ol wrecking ball-
JA — September 23, 2013
The absence of consent IS a crime. AGREED. End of story.
oldfarter — September 23, 2013
I prefer "The Pleasure of Her Company" as sung by Vic Damone. Then again, I am an oldfarter.
Gregg Butler — September 23, 2013
so, all pick up lines from men are considered "rape culture" does this apply to women with pickup lines too? or is it just men?
Blessed Son — September 23, 2013
I like this song, people don't boycott songs about killing folks, people don't boycott songs about drugs and killed the community. Why should I care if this song sounds like something a rapist would say?
If women had their way they would castrate us all anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1xadwVIPLw
http://www.fstdt.com/QuoteComment.aspx?QID=87815&Page=6
Demon's live among us. We call them women. They are here to wound and destroy us.
Danica — September 23, 2013
This is such a good article, honestly, although I see the song could have other meanings as well, this is a very good way of getting people to understand the difference between yes & no. Well written, however this may just give the song a bad name...Just a thought, I cannot begin to comprehend what possibly could drive someone to mentally and physically abuse someone in such a disgusting manor. Whether it be a compulsive act or not, it's still wrong, whether wrong or right does truly exist, it's immoral. Rapist disgust me enough, but what's even harder to comprehend, is why they are like that, now I know nothing can possibly justify such a disrespectful, horrific act-but there is something much deeper to most rapists than just the act, or them. It's what's happened to them, that's what's messed them up. As hard as it may seem to imagine I do sometimes feel sorrow for some of these people as what horrific, traumatic things have they gone through to be as mentally messed up as they are.
Rape is immoral, unjustifiable and sick. It should never happen to anyone. The best of luck to those whom may have suffered such horrid occurrences. <3
Kenny Powders — September 23, 2013
This is literally the stupidest thing I've ever read and I don't even like this song or Robin Thicke's music. This tendency to categorize so many aspects of pop culture as "promoting rape-culture" has gotten out of control.
Michael Divorty — September 23, 2013
stupid article stupid people that wrote it what a waste of reading time.
RailwayStar — September 24, 2013
It should say on this page; 'you are allowed to have have an opinion, just as long as it's the same as ours.'
You see, that's the problem with feminism; they are so arrogant, anyone with a differing mindset instantly gets dismissed and aren't allowed to express their views because they're chauvinistic rapists. What's the point in having a comment box when the only permissible comments are from the brainless drones who have jumped on your bandwagon, without even listening to the song?
People have pointed out how awfully wrong this article is; completely twisting the context of a song about picking up a taken girl into one about rape, needlessly forcing guilt and shame down people's throat because you crave being victimised. You should be commenting on their blurred morals, which is giving them second thoughts of committing adultery.
Disgusted, Tonbridge Wells — September 24, 2013
I think my frontal lobe just collapsed under all this psychobabble and tenuous implication. Any idiot can take excerpts from a pop song and then extrapolate a ridiculous scenario from it, for example take this little ditty;
"It's time to put on makeup,
It's time to dress up right."
Clearly a reinforcement of oppressive CIS-gendered values where virtue and status are conferred by how attractive a person is, that having being determined by the overarching patriarchal morality present in popular culture...
Or it's just the theme from The Muppet Show.
Refuse To Be A Victim — September 24, 2013
I know I risk a lot of anger at this comment but I just have to say it anyway because it's something I feel I need to get out there. PLEASE READ THE WHOLE THING BEFORE JUDGING ME! :) I'm a male model, I get unwanted attention from both men and women who assume that because I'm a man, I always want sex, no matter what the situation. Now I think we all know that men get raped too, anyone who's ever been to jail can probably attest to that. So I know that I'm desirable, yes I'm a man with muscles and the whole patriarchy getting my back but still I'm careful because I know that I could be drugged or assaulted by a man who's stronger than me, in a position of authority or a group of men or women for that matter! So I don't consider it 'victim blaming' that I would never go to a bar, or walk home wearing short shorts and a tank top, inebriated, without my friends around to protect me. Just like I would never walk through a neighbourhood known for violent crime and gang activity carrying lots of cash and looking doe-eyed. It's just pragmatic. Now I hate rape culture as much as the next feminist (which although I'm a man, I do consider myself a feminist) and I've stopped other men from molesting girls, but I've been molested myself, by men and women. I've had sex while I was too drugged to know what I was really doing, but f*ck I took those drugs myself and so I don't blame that girl for taking advantage of me, yeah she's a horrible person but I also blame myself for making myself vulnerable in a dangerous situation. Sure I was erect, I penetrated her and you know she could say, 'it seemed like you wanted it at the time' even though she knew that before I got all messed up, she knew that I didn't even want her to touch me AT ALL. so I sympathise with all the female rape victims out there whose rapists said that in the moment, it seemed like you wanted it. Because I know that I didn't want it, I know she knew that I didn't want it, but I also know that once I recovered from my inebriation and put more clothes on that I was able to stop her from taking further advantage of me. That being said, I want to be very very clear on this I WOULD NEVER PRESUME TO JUDGE ANOTHER PERSON'S EXPERIENCE, IF YOU SAY IT IS RAPE AND THAT YOU ARE BLAMELESS THEN I BELIEVE YOU AND I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP YOU. (I'm serious about that, I will be your advocate.) I have refused sex from women before that God knows I wanted it, and they said AT THE TIME they wanted it too but I've made the decision to say "if you still want me when you're sober, I'll be on the couch, here's a glass of water, good night." I also know that I've had sex with women who want me to tie them up, choke them, hold them down, even hit them, and I'm not talking about 'smacking their ass' I'm talking about closed fists to the face, whipping with belts etc. personally I don't enjoy that so I refuse to rise to that level of violence. However, for me and for SOME, NOT ALL of my sexual partners, violence and rough sex is desirable, sometimes including rape fantasies. However I make sure that it's all consensual, that they want it and that they know that they can tie me up and hurt me too if they feel that I'm taking advantage of them. And yes, even if my penis is erect causing me basically to have the mental capacity of a primate. Still, despite it being consensual and using safe words, that doesn't mean that no one gets hurt. I started this post saying that I'm a male model, my agent wants me to do underwear modelling and I'll leave you to figure out why. So because of that I've hurt a lot of women's vaginas, I've made them bleed and one girl who especially enjoyed rough sex, I bruised her cervix and made her nipple piercings spontaneously bleed. And although admittedly I do get some kind of sick pleasure from knowing that I 'tore that pussy up' (as the rappers say) I also feel disgusted with myself and so guilty that in the heat of passion I hurt someone who I care about. Because although the media tells me that I should lay more chicks than mother goose, I believe sex is personal and if I don't feel an emotional connection with someone I don't really want to have sex with them, even if they look like Jessica Alba. But the fact is, I don't remember a single time that a girl who I've made bleed or just hurt has said "what the hell was that, never do that again" 100% of the time I say "god I am so sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you" and they say "no don't worry it was worth it, just try to be a bit more gentle next time." So I find it highly objectionable for people to say the sex and violence aren't linked, they don't have to be, but often enough in my experience there is a correlation. It just needs to be dealt with properly, women need to be more open and admit that sometimes no does mean yes BUT ONLY IF YOU HAVE PREVIOUSLY ESTABLISHED THAT NO MEANS YES, OTHERWISE THAT'S RAPE. It's just that it's confusing for men, I've had a girl tell me that she's celibate and then have the same girl tell me two days later during sex "what the f*ck are you doing, choke me harder, you choke like a little b*tch." now I'm sorry but there's some seriously mixed messages going on. So I say un-blur those lines, sure you can be coy, but make sure that you take a minute to have a frank discussion with your partner and be clear on what you want, likewise don't say NO say "I don't want you to rape me, please don't ruin my life. This is my personal space, move three yards/metres away from me, if you don't (at this point take out your pepper spray, or handgun if you live in America) I will be forced to take action." If he/she continues to move forward pepper spray them until the canister is empty, if you feel strong enough then follow that with an open hand strike (not a slap, using your lower palm as this the most force and least likely to cause you injury) to the throat (adam's apple if it's a man) or a forward push kick to their testicles. If you're in America, just shoot them in the foot so they can't follow you and so that if you do get caught, the charge won't be attempted murder. Then run to a safe place and do not look back. Now you must practice these things, go to self-defence classes, shooting ranges, buy two canisters of pepper spray (usually found at army surplus stores and labelled as 'dog spray') and find out how it works so that in the moment you're ready, because I know as someone that has been assaulted before there is no time to think, you MUST rely on instinct and it is because I have honed these instincts that I came out with minor injuries. It doesn't matter if you're smaller, less strong or defending instead of attacking, (the toughest guys in the UFC all use some form of ju-jitsu which means 'the soft way') the bigger they are the harder they fall and likely if they are trying to rape you, they will assume you aren't going to able to fight back, nature tells us, a predator will only attack prey. I recommend Systema or Krav Maga as these are military martial arts that hone your instincts and teach you how to defend against someone who wants to kill you. I'm wary of things like ju-jitsu, karate, aikido, tae kwon do etc. because mostly, not entirely, in their modern forms they are not designed to prevent against someone that wants to kill or seriously hurt you. Not in the way that Krav Maga and Systema are. Of course sometimes none of this will work, we live in a horrible, horrible world and sometimes bad things just happen. IT'S JUST MY OPINION, DO WHAT YOU WANT that women need to accept that if you want to dress in a way that's enticing to men, don't let yourself be a victim. I'm in support of the legalisation of prostitution, I think if someone wants to do that, that's their choice, I support it, world's oldest profession after all. However strippers and prostitutes are the most likely people to get raped and you know what, many of those girls (and boys) can outrun Hussain Bolt in the 100m dash wearing six-inch stilletos. Just like I wouldn't walk through the gay village drunk and alone especially if I wasn't proficient in self-defence. And please don't anyone call me a homophobe, many of my best friends are homosexuals, being a male model I run into a lot of them. It's just that proportionately I've been molested or had people attempt to molest me much more by gay men than heterosexual women, although as I said earlier, I have been basically raped by a straight female, so women stop acting like you're blameless http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/04/07/four-women-wanted-in-alleged-sex-assault-of-19-year-old-man-in-downtown-toronto/ that wasn't me by the way.
So maybe everyone hates me now, but I just wanted to share my own honest opinion about the matter, I plan to volunteer soon for the Walk Safe program at my school soon, I am staunchly against rape and if a vigilante hit squad of bad-ass chicks started going around cutting off the dicks of rapists that got off scot-free I'd be the first to lend them my knife and say "yeah I don't know what that dude's talking about officer, that guy definitely cut his own dick off, I saw the whole thing." But Lord help me, I am so sick of all this b*llshit with people making such clear-cut distinctions, it really really doesn't help. I'm sorry, I know that everyone on Jezebel and XoJane will want to kill me for saying this but goddamit No does not always mean No, I know this from experience, also 'stop, please let me go, you're hurting me' I've heard them all during consensual sex, and yeah I pull out, I'm not a monster but you know what? 100% of the time they say, "what the fuck are you doing I was just about to come." However I have never heard, and there is no ambiguity to "I don't want you to rape me, you are ruining my life" because yes that is what rape does and many rape victims will commit suicide.
Also yeah most of those lines quoted are from T.I. not Robin Thicke and Lil D who says that Thicke was just renting out T.I. I don't give a f*ck if you're black, that's f*cking racist as hell. Seriously that is so dense and patronizing, for one T.I. is a fully grown man who has a net worth of $40 million, he can make his own decisions, yes even if a white guy tells him what to do. Do you not realize that by saying that Thicke can tell someone (who by the way is like 3 times richer and probably 1,000 times more popular) what to do, just because he's white and T.I.'s black, you are implicitly saying that white people are inherently superior and have more authority? The most powerful man in the world is black. (well ostensibly, it's probably actually Rupert Murdoch, ALL HAIL MURDOCH) Also a black man copying a white man's music? I know kids get on the internet younger and younger these days but were you literally born yesterday? Jazz, Rock n' Roll, Blues, Hip Hop, Ragtime, READ A F*CKING BOOK!!!! You think Elvis wrote ANY of his songs? I mean dammit white people even stole Michael Jackson! (sorry bad joke) Anyway this is probably longer than the article itself now, so I'm out. Please don't respond with hateful speech, I'm not trying to be hateful (although I do kind of hate Lil D, Robin Thicke and T.I) and I'd be happy to admit that I'm wrong. This is just one male model's humble opinion so gimme a break we aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. :)
KayDee — September 24, 2013
I'm a woman who has been in a rape situation and suffer from PTSD. But can we talk about the female vocalists skipping around in skimpy outfits promoting some of these things as well??
we've got Natalie Imbruglia adversiting a promiscious girl, the Pussy cat dolls loostening up their buttons, Selina Gomez Skipping around saying "if you want it come and get it.. Nah nah nah nah..." . Rhianna Like the way it hurts/burns or whatever. Not to mention those who will gladly portrait themselves as hoes and whores in these videos. We can't just attack Robin Thicke's blurred lines when we're also the one's blurring the lines... When we as women decide to be marketed as respectful women and refuse to sing music and star in videos that promote it that is when we truly take a stand in the media and expect change.
KayDee — September 24, 2013
I apologize Nelly Furtado* Promiscuis girl
Dave — September 24, 2013
The producer (i.e. the person who controlled everything in cluding Robin Thicke right down to the look on his face that He had in the video) was a Women called Dianne Martel, if you read up on it you will also find that Robin Thicke wanted to tone it down however Robin Thickes wife and the director Diane Martel said no let's go the other way.
I mean are you kidding, no self respecting Male would make a video like this, it hasn't come from the mind of a Male.
This video and song is about a looser guy who is trying to pick up women that He's going stupid over but can't have because He keeps getting turned down. The images in the video depicted what he was seeing in his mind i.e. mentally undressing them (although I agree there was an overuse of nudity), as he constantly annoy's them in a delusional state totally unaware that they really don't want him.
At the end the man is in such a delusional looser state of mind that he then writes on the wall behind the women, I've got a big ****. This has definitely come from the mind of a woman as no self respecting man would behave this way and as a male it's actually embarrassing to watch (the only reason I can think of that would make a male publically make that genital statement is because in His mind He has a short fall there lol but nuff said about that lol)
If anything I would say this video and song makes fun of that one guy you see in a bar every so often who lacks the social skills to recognise when a women is interested (you know, the ones that bug every women in the bar while the rest of the men there curl about it in embarrassment)
I mean if you think I'm wrong imagine yourself in a bar or a club and there is other women with you (note that the women wern't alone in the video, there was more than one), a guy is coming up to you going you know you want it and your saying "no buddy I don't want any of that at all" lol, but he persists with all the other comments, I can just imagine you saying to your friends "uuughhh what the the hell is wrong with this guy". Then after repeatedly turning him down He writes "I have a big dick" on the wall behind you in glitter pen and brings it to your attention. Now I ask you, can you imagine any display that would be any more, desperate, pathetic and delusional than that????
Imagine the laughter that would come from you and your friends when they seen what He had written on the wall in glitter pen, (from a male point of view uuuggghh how humiliating would it be the next day lol)
This video makes an example of that one annoying guy we are all embarrassed by, rape has nothing to do with it people are just choosing to see it that way :)
BrittanyLouis — September 25, 2013
It doesn't matter what he meant, it matters what people got from it. The first time I looked at the lyrics they made me feel uneasy and so I don't listen to it anymore.
3timesurvivor! — September 25, 2013
I have been sexually assaulted and he said awful things and degraded me as much as he could. I in no way think this song has anything to do with rape. I enjoy this song, it helps me feel that it's ok for me to be a sexual creature and enjoy sex despite what happened to me. I don't have to be a "Good girl" and deny my sexual ferocity for fear of being raped again or of being called a slut. Thank you Robin Thicke, for helping me be able to enjoy feeling sexy again.
Wonderboy — September 25, 2013
Can you analyze other songs too, like for example Nelly Furtado's "Maneatet" which is clearly about female rapist.
AsianReaper — September 25, 2013
Ya , so the song is about rape is it ? Since all ya all is just given opinions here is
mine. Grow up its a song men and women fuck in all sorts of ways talk all sorts of fantasy topics.
As far as rape goes, like any other event in a persons life that is negative (or positive) if you let it define you , if being a victim is how you proceed with your life then you do have problems.
Even been in a fight ever had your ass kicked ? did it define you if so then you continued to be weak and nature does not reward the weak. Move on.
AsianReaper — September 25, 2013
Its a violent world . Darwin was right only the strong survive.
Ugh — September 25, 2013
Write an article about rape culture, proceed to be flooded with comments from rape apologists.
Skrilla — September 25, 2013
Haha wow.. What a stretch..
CallMeAries — September 25, 2013
Anyone who agrees with this is just plain wrong. As well as the person who wrote it. It's supposed to be a fun song, that's sexual as hell. He's not promoting rape, he's not victim blaming, he's not doing any of this stuff. You're over-analyzing the song. YOU'RE OVER-THINKING IT, YOU STUPID PERSON. The song has nothing to do with rape. He's not saying she would rather leave a guy who treats her with respect to be with one who degrades her. DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE ARE GIRLS OUT THERE WHO LIKE HAVING THEIR ASS SLAPPED? WHO LIKE FEELING PAIN DURING SEX? Let me tell you, article writer and commenters, I've met plenty. Actually, I've met more than I've met who don't. On that note, quit over-thinking the lyrics. Don't jump up the ass of every man who says something about a woman's sexuality that you don't agree with. You what you should do? Leave it alone, and go on about your life. It doesn't affect you at all. Do you know what writing angry, bigoted, and outright stupid articles gets you? Hate, and I mean a whole lot of it. Think about that the next time you feel like doing something like this. Maybe you'll understand that what you're doing is the furthest from right.
Laura — September 25, 2013
What has our world come to? This is an outrage…and young women should Boycott songs with such degrading & insulting lyrics from Disgusting, arrogant male chauvinists like Thicke. Maybe there's hope for change if enough women (and descent guys) DON'T buy their Masochistic, idiotic music. Because sadly, what it all comes down to for the Music Biz is $Money$. And how scary & horrifying these images are from women who were raped…look into their eyes & see that "Cultural Ideologies" DO make a difference. And future "Rapists" can rationalize their criminal, selfish, indulgent sexual acts ~ because musicians like this jerk sing praises for basically sexual assault. Shame on the whole rock industry for allowing it to happen. They'll get their "reward" someday…when they have to answer to a much higher power than money for their despicable lives. Karma…
AC — September 25, 2013
You know, with all the controversy around this song, I wish Robin Thicke would just come out and say "this song was not meant to be about rape. Of course, I do not condone rape. Sex should be explicitly consensual DON'T RAPE PEOPLE."
I mean, seriously, with quotes like "What a pleasure it is to degrade a woman" from Robin Thicke and a music video with naked girls and clothed men, signs point to Robin Thicke being a sexist and this song promoting rape-culture. And yes, he is being defended by his wife as well as his female director (both of whom are watching the $$ roll in) - doesn't mean he's not sexist nor that the song is not promoting rape-culture.
ROBIN THICKE, HOW DIFFICULT IS IT? Just f*KING say what the intent was with the song. For f*ks sake.
April C — September 25, 2013
THANK YOU author for this article. You succinctly pointed out every part of the song that makes me feel incredibly uncomfortable and why it makes me feel nauseous. I am proud to everyone on Project Unbreakable - it's not easy to tell so many you've been victimized, especially when the chances of "justice" are so slim.
meena — September 25, 2013
I don't think the song is about rape. it's about making a connection and enjoying rough sex, which every woman has the right to do, without being victimized. I like this song. it's not entirely politically correct because it is about casual, rough sex, but the only iffy line for me is: "the way you grab me, must wanna get nasty" but it's vague enough to not imply rape. two options: girl brushes against guy while dancing...he interprets as grabbing and slut shames her into sex or rapes. another interpretation: she forces get hand down his pants( blurring lines of assaulting him in public) arouses him and waits for him to make the next move if he wants it to go further.... neitherinterpretation is correct or incorrect because it is blurred. not blurred consent...just the circumstances under which he makes these lyrical statements. I think robin thicke is super sleazy n the video is boring, but I don't think this song is about rape.
Jacksgap — September 25, 2013
Oh my god... I'm speechless.. I fucking hate humanity sometimes
Dude looks like a Lady — September 25, 2013
As a female, I am feeling a bit of Misandry in this topic. Let me ask something, if it was a woman singing these lines about a man, would you all feel just as offended? I am of the opinion that you would not bat an eye about it.
I don't think you all being upset about this has anything to do with the lyrics at all, and everything to do with you feeling somehow wronged by the man singing them.
Furthermore, I find your reactions rather small minded and extremist. May I also point out, that the language within this song is far cleaner and more respectful than 90% of rap, pop, and rock. It is 100% more respectful and clean than the songs that played on the radio while I was taking the bus to public high school.
Let's dissect some things for a moment here.
""Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you.He don’t smack your ass and pull your hair like that."
Spanking has been scientifically linked to with arousal in women. Hair pulling is also a turn on for a large portion of the female population. (as a bit of TMI I significantly enjoy hair pulling. A firm grasp of the hair at the base of the skull sends me into overdrive.) I would not be able to be with a man who was not comfortable pulling my hair. There are some men out there, who are taught that women are weaker and must be treated like glass. I.E. A woman will break if you use anything more than a feather on her. If you are a woman with a robust appetite, as I am, than being with such a man will be physically unsatisfying and sexually frustrating.
The meaning of this particular passage as taken within the context of this song is a come on. In essence, a pick up line. "I know your last man was sexually unsatisfying to you, but I can do better."
"The way you grab me.
Must wanna get nasty."
This is self-explanatory, but let me walk you through it. In the above line he gave you a pick up line. When dealing with the English language and efforts at understanding it, context is everything. You understand what a single line of poetry means because of the entire poem, not because of the line. By itself, this particular line can be taken in a number of ways. However, since it is part of a larger body and not an independent article we can determine what it is intended to mean. In this case, given the context of the above line, it should be interpreted as consent by the female the singer is talking to. Namely, he used a bad pick up line and she grabbed him. The grabbing is the interesting part, did she kiss him? Did she hug him? Did she try to give him a hand job? Doesn't really matter because we can understand from the content of the song that she was a willing bed partner.
"I know you want it."
Obviously, I do. He's a handsome chunk of man meat and his wife is pretty hot too. A three way would not be a bad deal in my opinion. ;)
Dom — September 26, 2013
Some of the comments here are awful. "I know you want it" is a man telling a woman what is going to happen? I have actually said this to a woman during sex and guess what? It wasn't an issue at all. You're all feminists/brainwashed drones/losers with nothing better to do. Accept that everyone likes different kinds of sex and lines like "I know you want it" do not warrant you all naming someone who wrote a song containing the line someone who advocates rape. Anyone who thinks that should get a grip.
Music Fan — September 26, 2013
There certainly are strong images in the article and I think it is important to understand that there can be some different connotations to the lyrics in Blurred Lines. But I also believe it's misleading to suggest that the song is about rape.
I took the song as being about blurring the lines of your inhibitions. He's trying to convince her that by letting go of normal conventions she'll feel free. Admittedly he's doing so with an abundance of confidence, to the point of cockiness really. But that doesn't mean he's forcing anything.
I know this will get taken out of context but just about every guy has tried to convince a girlfriend, wife or mistress to do something outside of their comfort zone sexually. You might say they're presenting a whole song and dance to plead their case. That's what I hear in blurred lines, a song dance, da da daaaa, let's have a threesome! Da da daaaa cheat on your boyfriend! I'm not saying that doesn't make him a douche, I'm just saying that I'm not making the same connection that the article is...
Now, can't we all just agree that the real shame about this song is that he tried use the video to get his last name trending on twitter?
frustrated — September 26, 2013
Wow, articles like THIS are what keeps rape ideologies going and what stokes the fires of misinformation. Taking lines from a song out of context and saying it's promoting rape is just sickening. You can't compare a song about a guy trying to steal another guys girlfriend to a rape anthem. They simply aren't the same thing. While, yes, the pain of these individuals is real and what was done to them was unspeakable, blaming Thickes song is just wrong. It's a step back from where we should be. The author of this article is utterly reprehensible and completely misinformed.
Robbie Bruens — September 27, 2013
This essay would rightly fail a freshman composition course. It's assertions are not supported by the evidence it presents, and that's why the author feels the need to add lines to the lyrics. If you can't find the subtext you're looking for, just add words and voila, your argument is made! Unfortunately, serious thinkers can't really do this if they want to be taken seriously. The worst part of it is that this is a huge distraction from actually dealing with the ongoing epidemic of sexual assault that has resulted in tragedies like Steubenville, and scandals on college campuses across the country. How about we deal with the campus administrations who are shielding privileged young rapists from prosecution before we contort pop songs to create link bait?
Katherine — September 27, 2013
I'd be very very curious to know how many of the women denouncing this song read 50 Shades of Grey to the end...
As a woman that enjoys having her hair pulled and spanked, and a myriad of other seemingly "violent" things, in bed, I find the negative opinions on this song appalling and insulting. Thicke does not seem to me to be suggesting rape or any kind of "blurred lines" around consensuality.
It is clear to me, however, that the song is obviously about trying to tempt her to cheat. Perhaps it doesn't have the highest of morals, but it does not at all imply that he's forcing her to cheat.
That line about "the way you grab me, must wana get nasty", that cannot be compared to rape...some women are more aggressive when they want sex. I am one of those women. I would grab a guy and make it blatantly clear that I want him. Someone pointed out something about dancing and that grabbing someone to dance doesn't imply you wana screw them. Granted, but it does not seem to me that there's any dancing implied here.
I find it ridiculous that these lyrics have been twisted in this way...shame on the author. On that note, why did no one criticize any of Rihanna's latest songs? Or that Christina Aguilera song "Not Myself Tonight" that had a video clip clearly depicting bondage on males. OH, I know why, because they were sang by women!! And It's totally ok for men to be degraded but god forbid Thicke even sings about a woman acting like she wants him. There was nothing in this video clip or in these lyrics that is worse than any other modern pop song.
Also, one last thing, IT'S A SONG!!! Get over it. If you don't like it, don't listen. I like it, I think the lyrics are catchy, and there are many other women who would agree with me because we're smart enough to realize it's not meant to personally insult anyone, it's merely a song.
ObviousisObvious — September 27, 2013
There is absolutely no way to get "rape" from the lyrics as a whole.
"OK now he was close, tried to domesticate you (Thicke says a guy tried to tame his wife/girlfriend)
But you're an animal, baby, it's in your nature
(Thicke goes on to say the woman can do what she wants)
Just let me liberate you
(Thicke suggests she date/fuck/etc him)
You don't need no papers
(Suggesting the other treats her like a dog/pet)
That man is not your maker
(Restating that the other guy doesn't control her)
And that's why I'm gon' take a good girl
(Thicke breaks 4th wall to say why he's talking to THIS woman. She's seeing someone.)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
(Stating he knows that she's interested)
You're a good girl
(Again. She's seeing someone, but Thicke wants her to cheat)
Can't let it get past me
(She's attractive)
You're far from plastic
(Not "augmented")
Talk about getting blasted
(He/They're drunk, which puts this in a setting with alcohol)
I hate these blurred lines
(He hates the lines between good and bad behavior)
I know you want it
I know you want it
I know you want it
(Same deal)
But you're a good girl
The way you grab me
(She physically GRABS him. Not touching gently, not a tease, but actually grabbing some part of his body. This is the ONLY physical action in the song. It's her making a move on him.)
Must wanna get nasty
(Thicke thinks that how she's grabbing him means she's into him. According to everything known about body language, he's right)
Go ahead, get at me
(Thicke tells her to make the move. He shows a completely passive stance, taking NO physical action)
What do they make dreams for
When you got them jeans on
What do we need steam for
You the hottest bitch in this place
(It's a pick-up line. Cheesy and meant to be funny)
I feel so lucky
You wanna hug me
(Again, SHE makes the move on him. It's an obvious sign of affection)
What rhymes with hug me?
(Typical guy reaction to an attractive woman grabbing and hugging him)
Pre-chorus, chorus, yadda yadda
(Before I do this, I really don't like rappers in R&B songs, especially when they completely alter the tone to aggressive "thug")
One thing I ask of you
Let me be the one you back that ass to
(He asks that she let him dance/have sex with her)
Go, from Malibu, to Paris, boo
Yeah, I had a bitch, but she ain't bad as you
(Compares her to an ex. Not particularly classy)
So hit me up when you passing through
I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two
(Tells her to call him when she's around for sex)
Swag on, even when you dress casual
I mean it's almost unbearable
(She dresses nice)
In a hundred years not dare, would I
Pull a Pharside let you pass me by
(Don't know who Pharside is, but TI would take the chance to fuck/date the woman if offered)
Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
(Says her... ex now? I'll assume it's current boyfriend/husband. He's too boring for her)
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that
(Indicates she likes rough sex either from speaking to her or her demeanor)
So I just watch and wait for you to salute
(Waits for her to show interest)
But you didn't pick
(She didn't make a clear decision, or didn't pick him)
Not many women can refuse this pimpin'
(Says he's not used to being rejected)
I'm a nice guy, but don't get it if you get with me
(States that he'd be wild enough for her, but would be nice in public "gentleman in the streets, freak in the sheets" type of thing)
Bridge just talks about dancing
Baby can you breathe? I got this from Jamaica
(They're smoking weed now)
It always works for me, Dakota to Decatur, uh huh
(No idea, actually. Loosen up for sex?)
No more pretending
(They're going to have sex)
Cause now you winning
(Insert sex here)
Here's our beginning
(Operation: Steal girl from guy/Get girl to cheat successful)
So where's the rape? When she shows interest? When he eggs her on? When she makes physical contact? When he tells her to make the next move? When TI's part talks about his dick size? When he gives her his number? When he tells her to call him up for sex? When they smoke weed at his place TOGETHER? Or is it when they've had sex after this long story showing nothing even remotely indicative of rape?
Every line in the "article" was purposely twisted and taken out of context to fit the perception of rape. It uses inflammatory images to draw its comparisons, not the song itself.
AverageJoe — September 29, 2013
*singing* 'why can't we be friends? why can't we be friends?...'
NERTCHER — September 30, 2013
I think that it's interesting to note that the author doesn't specifically attribute the titles of rapist or bigot to Thicke, unlike other people.
Minna — September 30, 2013
I completely agree with the idea that this song is a misogynistic piece of pro-rape shit, but I can't say I'm surprised. I mean, look at the way female artists portray themselves. Rihanna singing "I like the way you pull my hair" and "I love the way you lie" and countless others portraying themselves as helpless sexual objects do not exactly help to create a positive image of the modern woman.
Sadly this is further reinforced by the literal faeces which is 50 Shades Of Grey and Twilight.
Please don't misunderstand me and think I'm saying women are the ones that need to change, as this is absolutely not my point. All I'm saying is that somehow it has become fashionable and 'sexy' for women to accept a role as submissive sex toy, and sadly I don't think this will change anytime soon.
However, it is very encouraging to see that there are people who actually are standing up in protest.
Minna — September 30, 2013
Although I am surprised that this is the first song to receive so much attention for being 'rapey'. Look at 'Frisky' by Tinie Tempah:
"I'm on a mission, I don't even wanna kiss her, honey I won't even miss ya when I'm done with ya",
"I would put her in positions [...] Leave her twitching"
"if I hurt your feelings (don't take it the wrong way), it's just because I'm frisky".
Rape?!
Wren — September 30, 2013
Honestly, I find it hard to find many songs I couldn't twist the lyrics of to make them sound "rapey". Any song with a theme of wanting someone (sexually or romantically), being with someone or losing someone can come off that way if you cherry pick. I had a lot of driving to do today and amused myself making every song that came on "rapey". I was listening to a station that plays a mix from the 80s to the present. In over 2 hours I didn't hear one song that couldn't easily be perceived as "rapey".
Addman27 — October 1, 2013
In this country we have freedom of speech. If we ban this song we also have to ban Snoop Dog/Lion for encouraging and glorifying drug use for kids. Equally as damaging.
Addman27 — October 1, 2013
Black men (Jay Z, Kanye West) objectify and exploit black women more than any white men ever have.
Kat — October 2, 2013
This song makes me feel bad
JoeBurnz — October 4, 2013
I cant help but think that this is just a song and the message has been blown way way way out of proportion. Dont get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with any of you, but lets just look at things from their (Robin Thicke, Pharrell Williams) the songwriters.
This song was made to make MONEY nothing else, not to upset anyone, apart from the parents. Punk did it back in the day, when Elvis swung his hips he had to be filmed from the waist up, the devil had taken him they said, the kids were forbidden to watch and what do kids do. REBEL!! its the same issue.
Yes its a silly song, its a pop song, a very simple pop song. its not meant for us to over analyze, its for the clubs and its for the 16-25 year olds
(and what do the majority of young adults like? SEX)
they kept it at number one for 12 weeks (4th longest streak in chart history)
Sex sells whether we like it or not, this post alone has created such a buzz that we are still talking about the song and keeping it at the top. Controversy creates a buzz, buzz creates awareness and awareness means sales. KERCHINGG those dollar signs are rolling around in Mr Thickes eyes.
And as for Miley, she knows what she is doing, making money. Maybe it is immoral as to flaunt around in the nude after she was a disney kid and 'Loads of kids look up to hannah montana' but im sorry why is a fictional girl on the television your kids hero? Did you think she was never going to grow up and break out and rebel like normal kids do?
At the end of the day if you dont like it dont talk about it and KILL THE BUZZ. You all have the power to stop it if you want to. But can we resist the urge..
JW — October 5, 2013
That article is completely unfair, you can't take lines out
of context and use them to prove a point. For example they slate the line
"I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two", which
by its self sounds very rapey. However, the line before this one reads "So
hit me up when you passing through". So the lyrics are actually "I'm
going to give it to you, IF YOU ASK ME TO".
Also calling someone a "good girl" is clearly a
euphemism for "I'm going to rape you", right? Actually that probably
depends on context too. The song states that the woman has a boyfriend. Now obviously it is impossible for a woman in a relationship to find anyone other than their partner sexually attractive...oh wait, no it's not! However, when a "good girl" feels attraction to a person who is not their partner she
ignores those urges, a "bad girl" on the other hand will cheat on her
partner. Both "want it", but one chooses not to give in to
temptation, whilst the other resists.
Next up in our game of "let's take words out of context
and use them to prove our biased, pre-formed opinions" are the lines
"The way you grab me, must wanna get nasty". Uh oh, this is looking
like he's talking physical contact as consent to do anything he wants...until
the next line "Go ahead, get at me". He's giving her permission to
get nasty with him, not saying he's going to take whatever he wants.
It's really weird, it's almost like the author is deliberately leaving these additional lines out, but why would they do that? Oh yeah, it's because they COMPLETELY DESTROY THEIR ENTIRE ARGUMENT.
Now admittedly some quotes are down to interpretation. For
example "Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you. He don’t smack
your ass and pull your hair like that." Okay, so some people like hours of
slow paced sex in the missionary position, whilst the man continuously asks
"is this ok?", but how dare the author suggest that this is the only
acceptable form of coitus? This is going to shatter some people’s illusions,
but SOME girls LIKE rough sex and the only way to find out whether they do or not is to ask. So in this instance, please note the tense "He (the boyfriend)
don't smack" not "he didn't smack". The proposed rough sex has
not happened yet, it is a PROPOSITION. RT is saying that he is into kinky sex
and if this girl is too, then he will be better suited to her than her current
bf. He is not saying "I'm into spanking, so I'm going to spank you regardless
of consent."
If you only quote specific lines of Harry Potter you can
argue that Mollie Weasley is a violent murderer who kills the perfectly
innocent Bellatrix Lestrange or that Neville Longbottom is an evil sadist who
enjoys decapitating other people's pets.
Lhoss — October 5, 2013
Am I missing something? The song is degrading all women! Not just black women! Your comments are making it a black issue! Let's come together in saying the lyrics of this song are WRONG for all mankind!!
Self_Fulfilling_Prophecy1 — October 6, 2013
http://polemiqueoccasionelle.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/blurring-the-lines-of-feminism-a-criticism-of-the-criticism-of-blurred-lines/
IDHWhy — October 6, 2013
Are the lyrics really referencing rape or are they just subtly mocking misogynist attitudes? See my thoughts on the subject here:
http://www.idhwhy.com/2013/08/blurred-lines-parody-or-sexist.html
Olle — October 8, 2013
Girls being raped is bad. Really bad. Guys who rape girls should be punished, and rape should not be taken lightly in any way. Condoning rape or such things related to rape, as in forcing people into doing things they don't want is terrible.
But now, let's have a quick reality check. Is this song about rape?.
Looking through the lyrics here:
"I know you want it"
Girls say this or hint at this in songs all the time. But if a guy says it, it must be rape, right?... I'm not quite convinced.
"The way you grab me
Must wanna get nasty"
A girl that gropes me?. rape? no.
"I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two"
He's braggin about the size of his (probably tiny).... , but no, still no rape here.
"Nothing like your last guy, he too square for you
He don't smack that ass and pull your hair like that"
I still can't read rape into this. I'm really trying here.
"Shake the vibe, get down, get up
Do it like it hurt, like it hurt
What you don't like work?"
rape again?, I still don't see it. Sleazy?, probably, but rape? no.
This song is not the problem. and banning/forbidding it is not the solution. People who have been raped will of course read rape into this song. But the rest of society cannot react on victims hurt and simply ban everything that causes emotions to stir. I also get mad at many things, injustices in this world, but I realize that in order to prevent everything bad from happening, we'd have to sacrifice everything we love. This does also include stupid rap songs and such.
Jonny Andersen — October 8, 2013
I would say no offense but this will be offensive. This article is absolute trash and it's no surprise it was written by a woman. Lyrics taken out of context and exaggerated to no end to promote rape culture awareness is such a joke. Feminists are up in arms telling women what they should feel, how they should act, whats prim and proper as by today's standards is an even bigger joke. This song is male confidence in a consensual way. This video is sexist at best. That is it, long and short of it. The fact that people are offended by this song because its sexiest is believable, the fact that people are bashing it on every form of social media for promoting rape is absurd. The lyrics in their entirety claim no such thing but no, groups like Project Unbreakable build their entire campaign over finding scapegoats and putting blame on the wrong people. Had this song been sung by a woman talking about female dominance and telling the man what he wants and will do, no one would bat an eyelash never mind be so adamant about banning it from the airwaves. Not to mention plenty of people have pointing out other songs that are either equally or more offensive and yet they go unscathed over the years.
All in all the only people I've noticed being so pissed off about this song are women that this song would not apply to. This song does not generalize women. This song does not promote rape. This song DOES promote consensual sex between a man who knows what he wants and a woman who isn't sure but she's giving off signals. At no point in the song does Robin Thicke say "I will not take no for an answer"
Douglas Alford — October 10, 2013
WOW! Did you ever think maybe it is just a catchy pop song with a sexual under tones to the lyrics and music. No like this is the FIRST pop song ever written with sexual under tones. These ladies are insane with their signs and yeah EVEN the guy holding one who was clearly put there to present some kind of gender balance to the article. So I guess all the ladies who work with Robyn Thick are just stupid girls ok with rape or working for a guy the article is basically calling rapist. Nice one ladies involved in the article. There are all kinds of music I don't like because of the music but I don't go accusing the artist they something I don't fully know or understand. This article is a bunch of insane WOMEN and MEN reading way far into a song. If you want to expose and fight rape why don't you go attack registered sex offenders. So until the day you actually know for a FACT that Robyn Thick's song is suggesting unconsensual sex is ok maybe you should not try and ruin his career of make him out to be something he most likely is not. DAMN sure you would not want some to ruin your life over something you may or may not be because of one thing you did and everyone completely miss read into it. The person that devised this article should be ashamed of their self. This is so wrong in so many ways.
Roberto Matus — October 11, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mB97Qe2D4V0
Bianca — October 14, 2013
http://whataboutourvoice.wordpress.com/2013/10/14/is-pop-culture-creating-a-rape-culture-among-youth/ do have a read
KWeir — October 14, 2013
pffhh a lot of this song was read into. I took the song as a complete joke b/c they are supposed to be "old men on a stoop yelling at girls walking by"... he gives women a props b/c "you don't need no papers, that man is not your maker" is supposed to mean THAT MAN DOESN'T HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU. how is that to be taken bad? Robin said that himself, not me. now ME? I do like my hair to be pulled and my ass to be smacked... it's called being kinky. tear my ass in two? he's talking about having a big dick - he's just bragging... "I know you want it" is said by a lot of guys, not all who are rapists. I mean really.
CATHERINE TODD — October 14, 2013
Thank you for this astute article pinpointing what is so wrong with Robin Thicke's horrendous song. You said it so much better than I. This kind of c$%^&* has to end, and NOW.
zach — October 15, 2013
let me start out saying rape is really not that bad so all you left wing feminists need to take your stupid complaints that honesly no one really gives a shit about form them into a dildo and have some kind of pleasure in your life because no one wants to hear you complain because you have a drier vagina then the sahara desert
tom roberts — October 17, 2013
I've said a lot on this page, but I am leaving never to return as I realize even commenting on this page is recognizing its worth. It has none, it is poor piece of journalism with a fundamentally flawed message. Any body who finds it compelling has been taken hook line and sinker by a crass, sensationalist, imbalanced, over blown, blinkered, knee jerk, soccer mom, poorly thought out, offensive, generally disgraceful and frankly, (if I were Robin Thicke) borderline libelous. This serves only to prove that the internet, although a great tool, is a forum for even greater tools to spout their crap. An article of this nature would NEVER EVER make it into any reputable news source, issues aside it is simply terrible journalism.
Bob Rooney — October 17, 2013
Oh you fat feminists will stop at nothing to curtail a successful man. Rape and Blurred Lines have nothing in common. If any of these people had any proof that they were sexually assaulted (other than holding up lyrics and unrelated context in front of them), I'm sure you can pick any lyrics out of the top 10 songs out of the Billboard and related it to something a rapist might possibly say. Why would a major pop artists who's been married to the same women since his adolescence make a song based on sexual violence. Stop stirring up knee-jerk reactions based on conjecture to up page hits. Stop fisting the twinkies and research the violent and constant attacks on women in the Congolese or various parts of South Africa where women are TRULY in need of attention.
BrownEyes — October 18, 2013
While we are arguing about this song, more people have been raped, killed --you name it. I don't think anyone is really letting this fact sit in. We should focus more on what changes should be made. But that's my personal opinion.
david — October 23, 2013
there's a clue in his name...
Guest — October 23, 2013
Okay. Just to throw in my two cents. People have been analyzing the lyrics to this song alot but for me the most important line is the titular bit about "blurred lines". No matter how you slice it. It suggests that women say one thing but really mean another. Robin Thicke may not be directly promoting rape (although some of the other lyrics are pretty sketchy) but the lyrics do demean a woman's consent which is a dangerous mindset to put out there.
BaSH PR0MPT — October 26, 2013
I'd honestly expect that creeper rapey jerk photographer who shoots Lady Gaga and Cyrus the virus being all slutty to somehow be involved in a project like Thick the dick's lame ass videos. Hollywoods super skeezy seem to fraternise together and rub shoulders, it's like some kind of pedo-club for a rape friendly audience.
That said we're making a lot of assumptions here--playing devil's advocate for a moment--assumptions that could end a man's career, and indirectly ruin his life. Perhaps his lyrical content is innocuous far more than we're giving it credit for and rather we're looking for patterns al la apophenia, and following the Dunning-Kruger effect like attitudes of those indicating said patterns to us as their target audience?
All I know is he's a skeezeball and I hope his dick rots off. But I'm known for my random irrational dislike of skeezeballs. Like that guy on Facebook who only takes display pics topless and exclusively adds female friends only.
ScIKyraFI — October 26, 2013
For real though, ICP has a song called "Love" that is about sexual harassment. If the lyrics to your songs match what INSANE CLOWN POSSE is saying you're a bit rapey. It's sad that ICP understands rape culture and creepy lines better than pop culture artists do.
Difster — October 30, 2013
You people are a riot...
Getting so worked up over a song.
Eternally Blessed — October 30, 2013
OK..... the article states right at the top that the song HIGHLIGHTS A GREY AREA BETWEEN CONSENT AND RAPE...... and the fact that it uses lines that were quoted by rapists in trials in their defence... that's demonstrated by the victims themselves. So what's with the comments that are going way off track stating what the article does not state and basically slagging each other off? NOT HELPFUL to anyone....
Nikita — October 31, 2013
After reading these comments I just think people are far too sensitive these days. It seems that people will find any opportunity to call someone a sexist or a racist. Can't we just stop reading into things that are not there? This song was made as a bit of fun (oh yes I expect the overly serious people to lecture me on that statement). It was not about rape. It was only interpreted to be about rape by those of us who will find any opportunity to start a human rights debate.
felicia — November 6, 2013
Hey next time you try to pick a song apart piece by piece to support your bullshit ideas could you at least get the fucking lyrics right
Jen Frankel — November 8, 2013
If men were serious about ending violence, they would be speaking out
against men. Sorry -- men who are serious about ending violence DO
speak out against men. I get very tired of men attacking instead of
listening, and denying the problems instead of confronting them head-on.
Way too many men don't take any kind of violence seriously, against women
or otherwise. Stop instantly getting your back up against the wall, and
lashing out. What you're really saying is, "Shut up, I don't want to have this conversation." I can hear you loud and clear.
But don't stop the dialogue from progressing between those of us who want to see everyone safer and more able to be a part of a society where rape, racism, sexism, and other impediments to security and happiness are taken seriously instead of being considered the concerns only of "women and minorities."
KikiDee — November 10, 2013
If only one day Robin & Paula have a daughter who has to listen to this song while being abused. Or worse yet, their almost grown son gets accused of assault while he and his friends have "fun". If I were Paula I'd stop grinning like the fool she is and tell her husband just how uncomfortable all this makes her feel unless she truly is the dumbest woman on the planet. For pity's sake.
Puppett Pesukarhu — November 11, 2013
Personally, I find this to be quite a stretch. Most, if not all of those things are said before/during ROUGH sex or BDSM style sex. What's more, there do exist people who are into rape fantasies, so this could also be about something like that. And really, who is anyone to judge him for this song? It's called freedom of expression, and to me it just seems like he's a really kinky guy who likes it rough and likes to show it, and there's nothing wrong with that.
If you don't like the song, don't listen to it. But don't call it a rape anthem, for chrissakes. I know of at least five songs that are explicitly about rape and no one's freaking out about them. Hop off that high horse already.
Mitzi Hernandez Durán — November 12, 2013
I'm starting to get scared. When a woman is between a lot of man, things tend to get misunderstood, as a student of a major when women are 1/6 of all the student. Most when there are some teachers that are chauvinistic, when your classmates sometimes talk like patriarchy man (and my major it's Philosophy! It's supposed we should see ourselves as the future of the Human Thinking!, equality and that stuff that we're searching the answer since... ever!)
What should I expect, if I can vote and say I'm an independent woman but things like this still playing on the radio?
#confuzzled — November 13, 2013
Okay, I think you forgot the highly important “Go ahead, get at me” line.
The fact that something reminds you of nonconsensual sexual violence, despite not involving it, is not a reason that thing is bad. A potato can remind you of sexual violence. C’mon, guys.
Alex Silva — November 14, 2013
say what you will about the blurred lines video. you could argue that naked females are just sprinkled on to the video like glitter, and that the video contributes to generally un-feminist values in our culture, I think thats a valid complaint (though thicke had pretty much nothing to do with the video). but people are simply projecting the WORST POSSIBLE interpretation onto his lyrics. Isn't it robin thicke who decides what his lyrics are about?this is absolutely ridiculous. you could take the lyrics to any fucking song about sex and compare it to stuff rapists say. I cant believe this is real and gaining support from people, damn shame.
self-righteous douchebags just get to feel superior to robin thicke, and pretend they actually care about rape victims, fucking bullshit.
the people equating "tear that ass in two" with VIOLENT RAPE have lost their fucking minds. the amount of misinterpretation and PROJECTION going on in these so-called "parallels" between thicke's lyrics and rape concepts is ridiculous and embarrassing. YOU DONT GET TO DECIDE IT WAS NONCONSENSUAL, fucking ridiculous, it his fucking song, its a fucking fantasy
every single one of these pictures can be dismissed easily look:
-I know you want it only has rape implications in ONE FUCKING SITUATION, youre in a bedroom and she says no. thats the one fucking time. Other than that, its just bragging, and anybody pretending its more than that is PROJECTING THEIR OWN RAPE CONNOTATIONS ONTO IT
-the way robin thicke used the "good girl" term doesnt have a goddamn thing to do with the "be a good girl and don't say anything", are you kidding me? i cant beleive i have to explain this
-the "do it like it hurt" lyric DOES NOT imply that women SHOULD enjoy pain during sex, all he's saying is that HE likes it and other girls have too, its an offer, not a threat, goddamn people are fucking stupid
-the way you grab me, must want to get nasty, this in no way implies that a girl who dances with a guy MUST have sex with him, once again, thats your projection.
-I dont even need to explain this one, anybody can see that the comparison between "nothing like your last guy, he too square for you, he dont smack your ass and pull your hair like that" and "STOP PRETENDING YOU ARE A HUMAN BEING" is fucking ridiculous, and whoever tried to equate them should be ashamed of themselves
Alex Silva — November 14, 2013
this page is disgrace to actual rape victims, shameful willingness to project one's fears and prejudices onto somebody else, and for what? by the looks of these comments, some kind of self-righteous satisfaction from men who want to feel superior for their "morally upstanding" disdain for rough sex, and women who are projecting their own lack of consent onto the girl in the song
seanfrancisco — November 17, 2013
God...what a load of crap...
NowAFeminist — November 18, 2013
This is such an amazing article. I found it through a link on Tumblr, and it's really eyeopening.
rapeisfunny — November 23, 2013
Holy shit this is the funniest website I have found. All you retards in the comments make me laugh out loud. Btw, the song is about racial inbreeding, not rape you idiots. Either way, you shouldn't listen to the song, it will just convince you poisoning your gene pool with the blood of monkeys and snakes is not a good idea....
Straight Forward — November 25, 2013
I honestly think that over analyzing anything will yield same results. The lyrics are simply trash! Garbage! Why dignify this so-call song with any intellectual analysis is beyond me! Just put the trash where it belongs and move on. Teach your kids to recognize the garbage by the smell. If it stinks (and this does stink) just put it in the trash!!!!
An Cat Dubh — November 28, 2013
Honestly, what I thought when I read the lyrics was not that it was about a rapist ignoring obvious lack of consent, but a man who’s frustrated because the girl is into does, in fact, want rough sex, but is too restricted by social mores that won’t let her express her sexuality. The blurred lines are not the lines of consent but the lines of what is considered socially acceptable expressions of female sexuality.
katphoti — November 30, 2013
THANK YOU for this article. Ever since I first heard this song, long before the Thicke/Cyrus exploitation show, I was disgusted by the lyrics. It's CLEARLY about rape to me, and it's so good to know that others know the same. The lyrics are offensive to BOTH women and men. I'm so glad to see this article--I'm passing it around so hopefully others will wake up to it.
Brita Marie Weber — December 2, 2013
The most offensive song I'm ever heard is a song that was recorded by marvin gaye. I was a bit surprised when I heard it. It was never intended for release. After he passed his record label included it on his last album...Dream of a lifetime. The song is Masochistic Beauty. I'm a domestic violence survivor and I was locked away while I was repeatedly raped. This song reminds me of that.....
chris — December 6, 2013
The more her or his testosterone level is high. the hardcore they become in sex. which what lead to rape......... if your the one who don't like or love it is cause your sex drive is not extremely adequate . Thank about that for awhile!
women — December 8, 2013
wtf
Captain Faps — December 10, 2013
I don't know what the hell is going on but when I get home from work I'm fapping to this!!!
Kumiko Akimoto — December 12, 2013
I like how I've heard a few of these lines all over in various situations, yet rape is the only thing they could possibly mean.
Amelia — December 13, 2013
Half the lyrics shown are not in the song, Way to make up things to support your argument. Google the lyrics. Seriously.
Amelia — December 13, 2013
Half the lyrics shown are not in the song. The person who wrote this song clearly made them up to support their view. Google the lyrics, Seriously. My last comment was deleted.
Danul Nashua — December 13, 2013
The people comparing this song to rape are just trying to twist it to fit their agenda, there is damn near nothing you can say in a song anymore that can't be construed the wrong way. Have never raped or beaten a girl and never will, me and my girl like the song. My girl likes her hair pulled, not too roughly and her rear spanked, but not too hard. I think people have taken this way over the line to satisfy their own agendas.
Annoyed Female Who Hates Rap — December 14, 2013
I agree this song is vulgar and ridiculously sexual (like every other song on the radio) however, it even states in the song how he's giving the girl a choice of swinging by when she's in town and talks about the places he can take her. This song isn't about rape an there are worse things going on in the world than offensive lyrics being written. Direct your attention to something of actual importance, like actual RAPISTS.
Alleah — December 23, 2013
I'm a woman, and I certainly didn't read into this song as rape. I see it as the girl loves kinky, rough sex, but is being a tease about it. It even says that the last guy, "tried to domesticate you" meaning trying to make the woman suppress her sexual desire and interests. So...
TrevorMorph — December 24, 2013
This is what happens when you over analyze stuff.
It's just like them idiots with there illuminati Bullshit.
Heidi — December 30, 2013
I didn't even know that a song like that existed...I knew that the situation today (our culture filled with violent porn) was bad but this....when I was young, songs like that were not mainstream. Young people are listening to this and seem to think that this is ok, that this is the norm? That's just...I don't even have the words to describe how I feel about this. This is the result of extremely violent pornography becoming mainstream and the ideal for sex and relationships between men and women. No wonder the majority of young girls today seem to be suffering from depression and anxiety; it's because of the sexual abuse they face all the time, it's because they have grown up in a culture that glorifies sexual violence and teaches girls from a young age that they are sexual objects to be hurt and degraded by men in every possible way.
This song is a rape anthem, and even if you think it's about "consensual" rough sex it's still extremely problematic because it states that sex is supposed to be painful and degrading to the woman.Young people are bombarded with a message like that all the time, it's not just this song, it's everywhere. Boys are told that "real men" hurt and degrade women, and girls are told that sex is supposed to hurt and you're supposed to allow men to degrade you. The model for "normal" sex comes from porn in which women are treated extremely violently. Psychologist, doctors etc. that are helping young girls tell that girls today are really confused and think that there is something wrong with them because they don't like painful and degrading sex. That's because the mainstream culture teaches them that women want to be hurt and degraded.They don't even know that sex can be gentle and loving because the violent and degrading sex is the only thing they have experienced or heard of.They have never even heard that it's not compulsory to have sex, that you have the right to say no. And what happens to boys growing up in this culture? What happens when boys learn that male sexuality must be aggressive, that men don't have to control their sexual urges, that real men like to hurt women, that sex has to be rough and violent to feel like real sex? What happens when rape culture is the mainstream culture? This is what happens: boys a taught to become rapists. Many young men today think that rape is nothing serious, that it's just normal sex.
I'm happy that I don't have any children because this is not the world I would want my children to grow up in.
cosmicdolphin — December 31, 2013
...and your problem is......??
Morgan Ann — December 31, 2013
I love Jon Lejoie :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zbxM4EehE
Just sayin — January 2, 2014
This is a really important article but the one thing I disagree with that a woman can very well enjoy having her "ass smacked/hair pulled" if she wants to. It is definitely inappropriate if unwarranted but it doesn't mean a girl doesn't respect herself if she likes these things.
Les — January 2, 2014
Strange that I enjoy "The Voice" and the show often has guests perform and this song was performed live with contestants and Robin Thicke. I was 1/2 listening as the song certainly has a beat and is rhythmic. Something sounded odd with the words, but I'd not heard it before and actually dismissed what I thought I'd heard. Hearing again tonight, a reference to the song regarding a good song for workout routines, I looked up the lyrics and found out that what I thought I heard was in fact close to accurate. It astonishes me that a hit show like this would allow such lyrics (or perhaps toned down lyrics) to be performed. I'm surprised that the judges of the show didn't find any problem with the performance of this song. I'm certainly a traditional male, father, and family man, but I have provided counseling to people, women primarily, whose sense of worth is negatively impacted by the type of behavior and attitudes expressed, real or imagined. Vulgarity may have some place in realistic movies, but I recoil at the bizarre views/behaviors expressed in these lyrics. People do voluntarily engage in behaviors that they MAY (I suppose) enjoy that I find peculiar or revolting, but I think these are far from normal expressions of love and care. That they are in counseling suggests a NO on the enjoyment part. I do think the acceptance of this attitude toward women OR men is some evidence of the decay of moral standards and a sign of the collapse in society. Anyway, women out there, please believe that there are still good men out there. I can't apologize and won't for others who view you in the light of these lyrics, Truth is that you are of value because you are a you. You are to love and be loved (sounds a bit gentle, soft and caring). YES
YourMotherIsHott — January 7, 2014
well, good job taking a harmless song and twisting it into a song about rape...
Cat — January 8, 2014
Anyone who reads ALL the lyrics and thinks it is about rape is an idiot.
Bertuzzi — January 14, 2014
Feminism is absolutely ridiculous. Get a clue. Kudos to Don Cherry for speaking up about how women are already treated as superior to men, with all their privileges. Go back in the kitchen and make yourselves useful.
erick garcia — January 15, 2014
All you're doing is picking out certain words and making huge jumps. It's obvious even in how a lot of you are reply to comments made, choosing certain words and running with them! I'm sorry lyrics like these make you link your own experiences making you interpret the lyrics harshly but frankly that's your problem not everyone else's who can enjoy a song for what it is a SONG.
Jeff Ems — January 16, 2014
Suddenly we're taking Robin Thicke seriously
Chris — January 16, 2014
Radioactive waste has been dumped into the pacific, from the Fujima reactor. Muslims and Christians are at war in Africa, there are people starving to death, dying of dehydration, or suffering various fatal illnesses....and you people are flipping shit over lyrical content....
Guy — January 26, 2014
Rape is a real issue. This song has nothing to do with rape. It states that fact very clearly multiple times in the lyrics. The jump to it being about rape is...well..a jump. A grand canyon sized jump.
thinkaboutit — January 26, 2014
it is annoying how you are all trying to depict a song about a guy just wanting to get with a girl and vice versa. Just because rape victims hold other words that arent even close to the words in the song, doesnt make it about rape. It would be interesting to see people that like to depict everything, depict every dump hip-hop song out there.
Qoaa — January 27, 2014
Sheesh, some feminists need to get laid
Justin Kofford — January 29, 2014
I Know You Want Me - Pitbull's clever multiformat smash
I Know What You Want - Busta Rhymes takes on a R&B turn
I Know What You Want - I can’t imagine they’ll be able to ignore [Cassie] much longer
I Know You Want It - Clearly about rape? Disagree.
Candiiey — January 30, 2014
HA, those bitches are all too ugly to be raped. Don't believe it x)
jagalaka — February 1, 2014
okay. Many people are saying that its ridiculous to make a jump from the lyrics to the words of the rape victims. I have never been raped, but I have been told all of the things (both from the victims AND the lyrics) by men. Whenever I answer that I don't like being called or spoken to in that way, they almost always answer with some form of "but you do like it, you just don't know it yet." The lyrics that are so insulting may not come across in every line, but if a kid hears them frequently, and sees the music video, what are they to think is wrong with it? If you answer that nothing is wrong with it, then you can rationalize rape, and any type of sexual assault on anyone. If a child grows up seeing no wrong in something he or she does, then that child will not hesitate to hurt people. Because its okay. Because that is what they grew up with.
Ruth — February 1, 2014
Really people, it's not that hard to interpret this song, if not perfectly correct. It is obvious he is saying misogynistic phrases that are referring to male dominance over a female's body. No matter the "colloquial slang", they are very obviously singing about how women are a man's toy, and should be treated as if they are one. People saying that you are "childishly wasting your time", get over yourselves. It's not Shakespeare. He is more than obviously saying this. His lyrics are the politically correct way of singing about rape. Even if that's not what he "intended" as you might say, he IS saying that. This song is the most misogynistic thing I have ever witnessed publicized by a famous singer. I don't care who you are, what you believe, that is NO way to treat ANY woman. Just because she is wearing tight clothing, or a short skirt does NOT make her inferior, or 'asking for it'. A woman can wear what SHE pleases, whether it is a tight dress or loose pants. Women don't scream at men for wearing invasive clothing. And don't get me started on when people tell women that they shouldn't wear short clothing because it 'leaves more for the imagination'. I am so sick and tired of the stereotypical impersonation of a woman. 'She should always be in the kitchen...' or 'Go make me a sandwich.' Another point, calling a woman a slut. If a woman wants to have sexual activity frequently WITH her consent, that is HER body and she can do what she pleases. I have rarely to never seen someone tell a man that they are a whore for having sex so much. If a man ever says they have sex a lot, you know what happens? They get congratulated. Patted on the back. This infuriates me, and is utterly revolting. Sorry for the long post.
rainbowdust919 — February 9, 2014
I like kinky stuff and often involve a lot of this stuff. It isn't rape when both parties are into it. From the song, I don't get rape. I get kink.
Johanna — February 9, 2014
Ok so Ive a feeling you guys will tear me a new one (pun intended)
But I find the song catchy, I think some of us have gone through hard things in life and feel the need to think EVERYTHING is about that.
I was victim of rape. I dont blame the song...I dont think the song makes a man do things...and I dont think this song speaks about rape. A man rapes because he chooses to... a song has nothing to do with it. It may be distasteful to your ears...if it bothered me enough I would simply turn off the radio.
This song IS talking about a women who subtly expresses wanton.
Who says sex does not involve pain? and who says some women dont enjoy this pain? theres an entire label for this it is called masochism. It does exist and while women who have gone through rape may see this as distasteful it is very enjoyable for some.
As morbid as it sounds there are some women out there who fantasize about being forced into submission.
As for foul language (as being torn in two) I like how it is shocking now, when this has been happening in hip hop and rapping for AGES and no one has said anything.
I hate to sound this terrible to people who have gone through this but get a grip... not everything has to do with our traumatizing memories.
nekksys — February 9, 2014
Another bunch of Feminazis looking for an excuse to cry foul on all men...
monique — February 26, 2014
you can discuss this horrible song all day and interpret it in different fashions, but the truth is you all know he is a disgusting pervert, as is most of the music industry. the song is disgusting, the video is disgusting and the lyrics are not rocket science. You want your children to grow up around these kind of people and their influences because they are greedy self serving tools of the industry enjoy. meanwhile, because of the views that men have of women in society today, because of the stupid whores in the video who have no self worth, people like myself get date raped by thugs who do not understand what the word no and stop mean because this society has condoned too many "blurred lines." i've wanted to die since it happened and hate every day that I wake up. that's pretty much what rape does to someone.
Ewizobeth Juniper — February 27, 2014
This is not cool, what you're doing. This song is not about rape. By your logic, any besotted male who says anything suggestive to a woman is a wannabe rapist. And why would an aspiring musician brag publicly about rape? The answer is--he wouldn't.
You can do many things to raise awareness regarding rape, but when it involves destroying a man's career and life, you've gone too far. Now you are being the aggressor.
This is the cycle of violence. You've been hurt, and now you are hurting others. Many sexually abused children go on to be sexual predators. It's up to the victim to break the cycle.
Men have prancing women in their videos; women have prancing men in their videos. This is a much smaller deal than it is being made out to be.
I think this is how the Salem witch trials got started. People kept piling on with the accusations and condemnations until, finally, there was nowhere to go, except to burn these women alive.
How about dialing back the rhetoric? You should save your moral outrage for something that really is morally outrageous.
rachel — March 24, 2014
Discord, you are completely wrong. It does not matter if Thicke's intention was to sound like a rapist. His lyrics are about the domestication of women and "tease" behavior or women. Is Robin Thicke a serial rapist who looks at women like trash? Absolutely not. Robin Thicke is a man, not unlike a lot of other men, who jokes around about women and equality. Yes. The connection between rapists and the song are not the actual lyrics, but the main idea behind the song. Women are not objects to be domesticated or to dance around men because they are horny. Women are equal and they contribute as much to society as men do. Robin Thicke needs a reality check.
Mute Angel — April 11, 2014
Sorry, but I'm going to have to call "BS" on this latest interpretation. I practically had to twist into a pretzel to follow the tortuously convoluted analysis in this latest "let's beat up on Robin Thicke because we can" post.
Don't get me wrong--I support discussion of these issues. I'm not blindfolded like lady justice (the logo of the legal community). But you have dragged someone into this debate as if he deserves to be so excoriated, which is untrue and incredibly unfair.
I would say that both genders get horny and dance around. Otherwise, there would be no nightlife in the dance clubs. And both men and women tease, or as it's better known, "flirting."
Thicke's lyrics specifically reject "domestication" of a woman whom he feels deserves to have the same sexual freedoms as any man. "HE (the other guy) tried to domesticate you....you don't need no papers, he's not your maker." The OTHER guy is treating her like a dog that needs to be trained and kept in check.
The sad truth is that this song very much empowers women and speaks the language of women's rights. But instead of being lauded, the accusers have turned this song into a science project. They have dissected every nuance of the lyrics to arrive at a very one-sided and negative interpretation of the intended meaning. Then this causes blow-back on Thicke, for things he has never said, or even implied.
And how dare he joke? You do realize that lesbians and women's rights activists are criticized for their lack of a sense of humor? You've just illustrated the point.
Somebody needs a reality check, and it ain't Robin.
therottybear — April 12, 2014
I'm shocked at how stupid people are! The expression "tear that ass up" and the variation used in this song has nothing to do with rape, violence, or violent sex. It's just an expression referring to having a really good sexual experience. If you don't understand the expression you shouldn't be commenting. By the way one might say it derives from the expression "tear it up" like let's tear it up on the dance floor, on the basketball court, etc... Nothing violent or bad, just having a good time. If you don't get it just don't post about it's about rape or violence, it makes you sound so ignorant!!! What a bunch of dumb asses!!!
fire lion — April 14, 2014
1984 is coming soon. Looking at a woman will be a crime.
E — April 17, 2014
Most disturbing thing: hearing an 11 year old sing along happily
youmustbejoking — April 19, 2014
There are a lot of songs out there that have lyrics that are disgusting because they are much more blatant then the lyrics of "Blurred Lines". There was one years ago by Ice Tea that I wouldn't allow to be played in my house or hearing because it was very graphic. I didn't want to hear anything by him because he had done that one song. I felt that song was an affront and insult to women, as well as dangerous to them. I guess my feelings aren't as strong about "Blurred Lines" because it is more subtle. But adults are free to listen to what they want. I feel strongly that adults have to be in charge and censor their children's music as well as their movies they see or websites they visit, but if you don't like the message in the song- don't listen. No one says you have to like it and you can certainly speak out against it. If the music isn't successful, those artists won't be making such songs in the future. I don't think this particular song is suffering.
jm — April 26, 2014
It's interesting how fast an article can be pushed towards racism, causing everyone to forget it's true meaning. Sure racism still exists, and I've experienced it first hand, but it's not always "whites" against other races, it's from ALL sides. Besides, we're supposed to be discussing rape, which last I heard can be committed by ALL races and BOTH genders....
Morgan O'Brien-Bledsoe — June 27, 2014
I'm sorry but I think you put a lot of your own agenda into this. My fiance has said a LOT ofthis stuff to me when I was concenting and happy he said it. I think your adding a LOT of context that is not in the song.
Chris — July 2, 2014
This song would totally be about rape except for the one line that everyone completely ignores or forgets, "go ahead get at me". In other words, "I'm all yours if you want".
Whiteknight — July 2, 2014
ahhhahahaha
Guest — July 2, 2014
basically
Whiteknight — July 2, 2014
Everything is rape in feminism lol
eh? — July 2, 2014
Yeah okay the lyrics are creepy and offensive, however the lyrics don't look differently than a rapper's song. I personally don´t like the song nor Robin Thicke
Really? — July 3, 2014
People as obsessive as you all seem to be will find "rape culture," misogyny, and patriarchy in anything if you try. I don't see anything about rape in these lyrics. They're provocative, yes, but that's all. Find a hobby. Bashing music artists with songs that offend you will not take a single whack at tape and sexual assault numbers.
Tony Francis Tirona Degan — July 4, 2014
people are so dumb. if an artist makes a song with a clear intent, and people that hear it interpret it their own way (against what the artist wanted), how the fuck is it that his fault?! he clearly made this song to be about bdsm and foreplay, not about rape. people just tore apart his *pretty basic* lyrics and added their own interpretations.
so if I took the lyrics from barney's song, "I love you, you love me." oh my god, a rapist has said that before that means barney is talking about rape!!!
funny how people point out the lyrics "the way you grab me; must wanna get nasty", yet seem to forget that he STILL AWAITS CONSENT AND HER APPROVAL BY SAYING "come on, get at me". ummm, rapists don't ask for them to make a move, they do it themselves.
the "i know you want it" was again part of the foreplay, meaning he already knows she's consenting since she's giving him signs that she is. in the beginning he's claiming that he's still unsure if they're on the same page: "maybe i'm going blind". he at no point states that HE'S FORCING HIMSELF ON HER by any actions, he's just telling her that she make the move because "he knows she wants it".
and the T.I. verse, is still going onto that foreplay and bdsm, which some women actually like, so who's to say that the woman T.I. is directing it to (or had in mind) ISN'T already consenting??
like i said, just because you view lyrics a certain way, OPPOSITE of what the creator intended, doesn't mean you're right.
about the video: i understand what he was doing. he explicitly says that he appreciates the beauty of women's bodies, hell so do I. and obviously the models consented to it. and by no means were they acting trashy or slutty, they were just legitimately having fun in the video. and his wife was the one who encouraged him. so because you guys feel uncomfortable that he has *consensual* naked women in his video to show off their beauty, now he's a misogynist... okay makes sense. yet the rap and hip hop videos that also show naked women and have them twerking and even the lyrics are clearly directed to demean them to nothing more than sex objects, that's okay... but celebrating their beauty in a video, that's a no-no...
the general population has already proven itself to be dumb and easily influenced by the masses, but this is fucking ridiculous.
2crudedudes — July 11, 2014
"In this misogynistic fantasy, a woman doesn’t want a “square” who’ll
treat her like a human being and with respect. She would rather be
degraded and abused for a man’s gratification and amusement, like the
women who dance around half naked humping dead animals in the music video."
Uh, this is true of a lot of young women. This is why jocks get girls and computer nerds don't... Maybe not the "degraded" and "abused" part (loaded words, by the way, not very objective journalism), but this is simply how life works. Young girls rarely go for "squares".
ReallyReallyBigMan — July 14, 2014
lol thanks this was good for a laugh
DemonFoxProductions — August 15, 2014
You're clearly missing the point...
yes... the lyrics does suggest rape...
but who is really being raped, here?
"The way you grab me,
must wanna get nasty..."
^ what does that suggest?
she's not getting raped...
HE's getting raped...
Me O Gusta — August 24, 2014
There are many innocuous songs that can become "rapey" simply by completely misconstruing the lyrics, here are a few more examples:
Kajagoogoo - Too Shy
Diana Ross & The Supremes and The Temptations - I'm Gonna Make You Love Me
AC/DC - Have a Drink on Me
Stephen Duffy - Kiss Me
Colin Blunstone - Mary Won't You Warm My Bed
The difference between those songs and Blurred Lines is that Blurred Lines happened to be the flavour of the month. Also, those songs didn't come out during the politically correct age, when people weren't so touchy and didn't make a meal out of nothing.
A WIFE — August 29, 2014
My husband...yes, my husband...sexually assaulted and raped me numerous times over the past 8 years. He did this after I had taken Ambien, even though I still said no. I would wake up with him doing things from touching to actually having sexual intercourse with me. I did not think, in my State, there were laws protecting me, but there were. On the night of August 8th, 2014 he entered my bedroom and I was awake (we haven't shared a room in years because of the sexual assaults). He began to assault me, digitally. I was fighting and saying no but he continued...and tried to remove my pants. I yelled for my daughter for help and he stopped. I called my Mom and she talked me into calling the police. I was subjected to a rape kit...because of my husband...who was supposed to protect me. He was arrested and spent 11 days in jail. He was originally charged with rape but they let him plea down to INAPPROPRIATE TOUCHING. I was devastated, but after reading all of these signs, I am ANGRY. First, my rapist said I DO to me...but after the most recent assault, he said I THOUGHT WE WERE PLAYING...
mesum — September 4, 2014
thanks for the pics, some of it make me hard, now time to put it on practice
George Rockwell — September 28, 2014
You woman watch to much of the all men are evil and will beat rape yu channel aka the Lifetime Movie network.
Jessica Neema — October 1, 2014
wow, what a loaded crap, so some rapists do these things and then u say this song is a rape fantasy. I hear the whole song and no nothing about rape.. "i know u want it is not a rapist line" what about female on male rape...remember the song by neon hitch...lets examine the lyrics shall we, and see why feminists are biased man hating b!tched.
I Just Found Out That I'm Fuckin' With A Bad Dog
But The Beast In Me, She Know How To Train A Bad Dog
Woof! Like A Bad Dog
Sit! And Be A Good Dog
Or Imma' Put You Down Bang! Bang!
Like A Bad Dog
so here we found out this woman is having sex with a 'bad dog" which implies someone who is not obedient..she is forcing herself on a disobedient man who doesnt want sex..maybe he is tired, has a girlfriend, does not find her attractive...he is a bad dog..
She must train him..order him about..sit down and take it like a man when she climbs on top though he doesnt want it.
or she threatens him with violence, a gun..so i guess women can force men into sex with a gun and feminists say nothing.
Ooooouah! I'm Breathin On Your Skin
Ooooouah! Oh-Oh-Oh
Ooooouah! You Feel Me Closin' In
Ooooouah! Oh-Oh-Oh
what do victims of rape report, feeling trapped and closed off and helpless
Your Just An Animal, That I Caught
You Know I'm Yours, So Rip My Clothes Off
And Just Like Ooouh! Ouh!
And Then We Ooouh! Ouh!
Just Come Inside My Cage, You Bad Dog
so men are reduced to animals, u have such a problem with domesticating women but calling men animals is allright? she is ordering him, men who consent and see consent don't need orders to rip off clothes.
again, controlling when he cums, and insulting him.
Revenge Is Sweet, Like Licorice
I Poison You With Just A Kiss
A Kiss, A Kiss, Your Just An Animal That I Caught!
Your Hands Are Tied, I Got My Wish
Now Say Your Prayer Coz This Is It
Is It, Is It...
any revenge fantasy is always terrible for the people involved.
Tied hands..how much more evidence u want that this is a rape fantasy of women against men.
say a prayer, when do people prayer? when their lives are in danger.. Now tell me where is the feminist anger over this music video.. or do men deserve rape?
guesty — October 22, 2014
Im in the middle. Sex consent is normal but you get extremes where in topics extremes are attracted to like bees looking for honey.
Consent is sexy, but rape isnt. Taking it out on skin color and extreme views isnt logical.
Think. Use your brains properly.
cheetoz — January 2, 2015
i always find it so amusing /ridiculous how men jump in to defend other men when they're behaving problematic. why do you do that? do you think you need to fight for your right to degrade women? because that's what it sounds like. and do you search through the internet all day to see if someone is calling a man out on his bs? if you as a man think this song isn't "that bad" what does that say about you? it means that you're not the person this song is aimed at so you can't possibly understand how hearing things like "do it like it hurt" affect a woman. when you tell young women that it's hot when she's hurt during sex do you think that's okay? can't you just sit down and let women, who actually understand what it's like to be treated that way educate you instead of invalidating their feelings? men don't get to determine what women view as sexist just as white people don't get to determine what people of colour consider racist and straight people don't get to determine what homosexuals consider homophobic. same goes for those women with internalised misogyny who say "i'm not a feminist". like what are you, then? someone who thinks women shouldn't be equal to men because they have a vagina? cause that's exactly what feminism is, equality, which includes men too, btw. i hold the doors open for anyone who walks behind me, i don't care about their gender. and every woman who ever walked through a door in front of me held the door open for me too. it's called decency.
Warrior — January 4, 2015
My rapist told me "You know you want it, you little tease. This is your fault."
BDoubleD — March 1, 2015
Aw, yeah! Love Thicke & the song. Y"all love anal, everyone knows it. This BS article ain't nothing but a product of your desire and your hypocritical need to 1.) pretend you treat men the same without typing them when, in fact, you 2.) type men & drop all of your 'rules' for the men you like. Authors like festus & jeepers here post this diatribe as if it is truth when in fact the rules it asserts apply only when your biological attraction hasn't kicked in. Now, be a bunch of good hypocrites & tell me how much of a rapist I am. Pronounce your femijistic BS 2 faced pseudo intellectual diatribe. You need to learn the difference between truth and your ideology, which is convention & not truth.
bDoubleD — March 1, 2015
This song rocks! I love it! Y'all need to stop pretending women have one standard & treat all men the same. Y'all 'type' us MORE than we could ever 'objectify' (a bogus convention of a word) you. The reality is that your consent changes with the degree to which you are attracted to the game you're hearing. In fact, some of you regularly fantasize about being 'taken'. You're hypocrites pretending your arbitrary convention for how sex plays out is real. Worst off, your cold liars about it, now THAT is a fact. You. Lie. Festus & Jeepers, informal ethnographer extraordinaire, should do a piece about your hypocrisy, double standards, & latent sexism. That wod require integrity, however, & there is none of that here.
Meg — March 24, 2015
I don't understand how this song can even be defended. This song made me feel gross, like I do when men grab my boobs at the bar or yell obscenities to me. If it makes people feel bad, it's probably bad.
deuce — May 24, 2015
"Rape anthem"? This is a goof, right?
lajili salwa — June 10, 2015
a person just called me "GoodGirl" to express her triumph (in a debate). i don't know, if she is aware, but, for me (correct me if i am wrong) this is the symbol of "female obedience" and male (father/ husband) domination. behavior conditionning : calling her GoodGirl is like a reward when she does what she is expected to do.besides, calling an adult woman "GG" is humiliating (that s to say she is submitted). in porn, actress are called of course bitches, and sometimes GoodGirls if they please their partner .. so, i wonder if "GoodGirl" is mysogyn
Jackson — September 13, 2015
Absurd misquoting of the lyrics. This article exemplifies why I don't identify as a feminist any more.
"Hit me up when you pass through, I'll give you something big enough to tear your ass in two".
Unpleasant? Perhaps, or maybe you're just a prude. But asking a woman to come and visit you for sex is absolutely consensual. Calling this non-consensual shows no interest in actually analysing the lyrics.
BrianCGB — December 10, 2015
I can't believe Miley Cyrus simulated getting anally raped onstage to this song. I can't believe I'd never listened to the song before reading something about how this catchy song was about rape. But clearly, it's about rape. WTF?
Munch Kin — December 31, 2015
Reading the comments, I can't stop laughing at how many people blatantly ignore replies that bring up the "Get at me" part of the lyrics, which is indeed specifically asking consent. If the girl doesn't go for what he's saying, those words heavily imply that he won't act on it. I admit, I orignally thought the song was about rape as well, until I actually paid more attention to the words. And please don't bother with the 'you're making excuses because you don't know what it's like' BS. I'm a survivor three times over, so I know very well, thank you. I still enjoy the song to this day.
Indianna Jones — January 4, 2016
I'm so glad that someone finally wrote this article. I heard this song all over the radio like 2 years ago and always changed the station quickly because I thought that it sounded disgustingly creepy. Real men (and women, and everyone else, too), don't rape. Pathetic little excuses for life do. That's the truth.
Mister Bumpo — January 26, 2016
That's s bummer man.... :-(
Vaughn Colangelo — February 7, 2016
Appalled:
This is so depressing, What you ask? I'll tell u this... that I'm part of a society
that can treat part of its species in such a manor. When I was brought up I was
told...if I should see a female walking down a street naked...that doesn't mean
she is asking to be raped, but you do have the position to ask her if she needs
assistance and to protect her in any way that she may have need of at that
time.
There is nothing more wonderful in this world than the love of a woman. As a man, I apologize to all of you that had to experience such a terrible vile act upon your hearts and souls, no matter your color, age, or origin. If I had anything to say about it...I would simply take the breath away of such an animal, I apologize to all the mothers that bore a child that ended up doing such a crime of violence upon another human, make it so ugly that no one would ever want to think to do this brainless act ever again.
Discord;
Well said. I wish I had the command of the English language as u do. Oh by the
way I am white and I was brought up to respect myself to make better
dissensions than those expressed in this so called song. I Do Not believe such
stupidity can be elevated to a stance for society to except, contemplate or
endure. Trust me if I have it may way, my face would be the last face, you and
anyone associated with garbage like this, would not be long for this planet. I
believe in the first amendment right to express yourself to elevate man to a
higher standard (plain),not to convince a society to except wrong as the new
standard of right.
To all chosen one's (woman)
I submit a truth before thee. This will stop
Leela Keshavan — December 14, 2016
Incredible.
jaredyjaredy . — January 6, 2017
This is nothing new. Robin "Rapey" Thicke has always written songs like this - just read the lyrics to Jordan Knight's "Give it to you" (penned by Thicke) - horrible rapist lyric.
SWSimpson — July 17, 2017
What about when my boyfriend says "just the tip"... and it ends up in there all the way?
Amy R — November 27, 2017
Blurred lines is about men projecting their desires on women, not taking "no" for an answer and drugging women if they won't give consent. The lyrics have been changed several times to edit out most of that content, but this was a song written about the joys of rape. It cannot be edited into usable form.