New data about the science aptitude of boys and girls around the world inspires me to re-post this discussion from 2010.
Math ability, in some societies, is gendered. That is, many people believe that boys and men are better at math than girls and women and, further, that this difference is biological (hormonal, neurological, or somehow encoded on the Y chromosome).
But actual data about gender differences in math ability tell a very different story. Natalie Angier and Kenneth Chang reviewed these differences in the New York Times. They report the following (based on the US unless otherwise noted):
• There is no difference in math aptitude before age 7. Starting in adolescence, some differences appear (boys score approximately 30-35 points higher than girls on the math portion of the SAT). But, scores on different subcategories of math vary tremendously (often with girls outperforming boys consistently).
• When boys do better, they are usually also doing worse. Boys are also more likely than girls to get nearly all the answers wrong. So they overpopulate both tails of the bell curve; boys are both better, and worse, than girls at math.
• That means that how we test for math ability is a political choice. If you report who is best at math, the answer is boys. If you report average math ability, it’s about the same.
• How you decide to test math ability is also political. Even though boys outperform girls on the SAT, it turns out those scores do not predict math performance in classes. Girls frequently outperform boys in the classroom.
• And, since girls often outperform boys in a practical setting, math aptitude (even measured at the levels of outstanding instead of average performance) doesn’t explain sex disparities in science careers (most of which, incidentally, only require you to be pretty good at math, as opposed to wildly genius at it). In any case, scoring high in math is only loosely related to who opts for a scientific career, especially for girls. Many high scoring girls don’t go into science, and many poor scoring boys do.
Now, let’s look at some international comparisons:
• Boys do better in only about ½ of the OECD nations. For nearly all the other countries, there were no significant sex differences. In Iceland, girls outshine boys significantly.
• In Japan, though girls perform less well than the boys, they generally outperform U.S. boys considerably. So finding that boys outperform girls within a country does not mean that boys outperform girls across all countries.
• Still, even in Iceland, girls overwhelmingly express more negative attitudes towards math.
So what’s the real story here? Well, one study found that the gender gap in math ability and the level of gender inequality in a society were highly correlated. That is, “…the gender gap in math, although it historically favors boys, disappears in more gender-equal societies.”
Part of the problem, then, is simply that girls and boys internalize the idea that they will be bad and good at math respectively because of crap like the “Math class is tough!” Barbie (sold and then retracted in 1992):
However, girls’ insecurity regarding their own math ability isn’t just because they internalize cultural norm, their elementary school teachers, who are over 90% female, sometimes do to and they teach math anxiety by example. A recent study has shown that, when they do, girl students do worse at math. From the abstract (this is pretty amazing):
There was no relation between a teacher’s [level of] math anxiety and her students’ math achievement at the beginning of the school year. By the school year’s end, however, the more anxious teachers were about math, the more likely girls (but not boys) were to endorse the commonly held stereotype that “boys are good at math, and girls are good at reading” and the lower these girls’ math achievement. Indeed, by the end of the school year, girls who endorsed this stereotype had significantly worse math achievement than girls who did not and than boys overall.
So, with only the possible exception of genius-level math talent, men and women likely have equal potential to be good (or bad) at math. But, in societies in which women are told that they shouldn’t or can’t do math, they don’t. And, as Fatistician said, “math is a skill.” People who think practicing it is pointless won’t practice it. And those who don’t practice, won’t be any good at it… Y chromosome or no.
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
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Kat — February 9, 2010
Simon Baron-Cohen:
The "Female brain make the most wonderful counsellors, primary-school [note: ONLY THAT!] teachers, nurses, carers, therapists, social workers, mediators, group facilitators or personnel staff [he means HR]."
The "Male brain makes the most wonderful scientists, engineers, mechanics, technicians, musicians, architects, electricians, plumbers, taxonomists, catalogists, bankers, toolmakers, programmers or lawyers."
Nuff said.
Tom — February 9, 2010
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/how_it_works.png
Simone — February 9, 2010
As a woman math major, all I can say is THANK YOU for posting this.
I think it's true that there are inherent gender differences the genius level. But at the level of garden-variety talented-enough-for-a-math-career folks, there are plenty of women--and perhaps as many women as men. Why is our image of what math looks like dominated by the demographics of the top couple percent? Most people *in any field* are not geniuses, and math is no exception.
Gomi — February 9, 2010
As a male mathematician, all I can say is thank you too.
I've known genius-level female mathematicians (and physicists, engineers, etc), who still consider themselves "lucky" to be as good as they are, simply because they're female. The perception of gendered math ability has been drummed into them to the point that it hurts the brilliance they have.
By the same token, I've known capable (but not brilliant) male math students to scoff at female students, even though their ability is no better.
Maybe I see this most in math because it's my field, but it's a horrible hindrance to what could be great advancements. How many girls have decided to enter another field because "math is hard?" How many possible Fields Medal winners have never even tried?
mercurianferret — February 9, 2010
Strangely, the only mathematicians I really knew were women, and while neither of them was an out-and-out mathematical genius, they were very competent at their field. Of course, the only reason I knew either of them was because the decided to pursue a different field than mathematics in graduate school. ...maybe because of a hammered-home gendered perception of mathematics, or maybe because they couldn't stand male mathematicians. I never thought to ask, but was really grateful that my department was lucky to get solid mathematicians, and knowing that they would learn to apply their knowledge to improving our field in ways that I definitely would be unable to do. (I know that I'm dead-average at math, at least among my peers.)
Missy — February 9, 2010
Thank you! I've always known it wasn't a gender issue inherent to math and more a gender issue geared towards how we treat our girls!
I was awesome at math before puberty, then suddenly my "girlness" was a factor and I remember being confused about why my being a girl had anything to do with my ability to do math, and then thinking "well they must know something I don't know" and suddenly second guessing everything and consistently failing math class. Funny thing was though, I'd always pick up the credit in summer school, in a class full of girls who all said they were "bad" at math and taught by a female math teacher who would yell at us "no one is bad at math, you can do it" and we'd all come out with high 90's.
My Mom's best friend has a PHD in Mathematics, and has tenure at a big university, she still feels like she'll be "found out", like she's tricking everyone somehow and that one day they'll find out she's not smart and will kick her out.
KD — February 9, 2010
According to Kimmel's The Gendered Society, boys are also more likely to overestimate their abilities in math. Even boys that perform poorly in math are more likely to report that they are good at it.
Jean — February 9, 2010
There was a study done a few years ago, in which high school girls were given math tests (I can't remember the name of this- maybe someone else knows). Girls actually performed worse on the tests if they were told that there were boys taking the same test in another room. There were several other tests and aspects to the study, but I think that case really shows the internalization of the stereotype.
One other point- I'm not sure the SATs are the best measure of math ability. There is no calculus on the SAT- which, in a way, punishes the people who have gotten farther along the math track. By the time I took the SAT, it had been more than three years since geometry, which seemed to be a fairly large part of the test. Moreover, my calculus class at the time was overwhelmingly female- so maybe girls are just more advanced at the time of the test (incidentally, I was terrible at math until 11th grade calculus, when I fell in love with the subject).
David — February 9, 2010
There's been a lot of studies recently about education and gender norming and, in my own googling, I have come across more studies/articles/books bending recent findings towards the conclusion that education is somehow 'harming' young men. I have read more than enough studies with statistics showing women graduation rates higher in college and post grad programs than men which then somehow is made to show that education is failing men. While I think this line of thought is off, I am curious if the boys on the low end of the bell curve from the study you link to are working out of the dominant story that "guys that do well in school are nerds". Working in over 100 schools in my community, I have ran into this mentality regularly and seen good kids make poor choices with regards to school all for the ends of being viewed as "too cool for school". I'm convinced this is not education or educators issue as much as it is a societal issue - media included. The problem, however, is not that women are doing better (if they are in fact "doing better" - good for them!) rather the problem is young men (especially those in non-affluent areas) choosing mediocrity for the fear of being viewed as "less manly". I recognize that this isn't so much the aim of your post but is along the lines of how education is gender normed in a harmful way.
tp — February 9, 2010
This is very interesting! I (female) remember being told by my grade 10 math teacher (male) that I was "a math retard" and that I "should drop any thought of pursuing a mathematics related field". I believed him and almost quit school over it. My parents then had me do an aptitude test to be admitted to a private school, and found I was on the 99th percentile for math. Subsequently, I sailed through grade 12 physics, algebra etc. at my new-found school, went to university where I majored in mathematics, and even took home the prize for placing first overall in calculus in my first year. I ended up doing medicine for a career.
The point I am trying to make is that often it is the teacher who has the bias, not the student, and if this bias is presented at a vulnerable time, it is difficult to redirect.
Theo — February 9, 2010
See also J.S. Hyde and J.E. Mertz, "Gender, culture, and mathematics performance", Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 2009 vol. 106 (22) pp. 8801-7.
Abstract:
Using contemporary data from the U.S. and other nations, we address 3 questions: Do gender differences in mathematics performance exist in the general population? Do gender differences exist among the mathematically talented? Do females exist who possess profound mathematical talent? In regard to the first question, contemporary data indicate that girls in the U.S. have reached parity with boys in mathematics performance, a pattern that is found in some other nations as well. Focusing on the second ques- tion, studies find more males than females scoring above the 95th or 99th percentile, but this gender gap has significantly narrowed over time in the U.S. and is not found among some ethnic groups and in some nations. Furthermore, data from several studies indicate that greater male variability with respect to mathematics is not ubiquitous. Rather, its presence correlates with several measures of gender inequality. Thus, it is largely an artifact of changeable sociocultural factors, not immutable, innate biological differences between the sexes. Responding to the third question, we document the existence of females who possess profound mathematical talent. Finally, we review mounting evidence that both the magnitude of mean math gender differences and the frequency of identification of gifted and profoundly gifted females significantly correlate with sociocultural factors, including measures of gender equality across nations.
Kristyn — February 9, 2010
In my personal experience, this is partially true. At my school it felt like there was gender parity at the bottom, middle and top in terms of mathematical performance and our final external examination mark. Because so many girls were highly motivated in their studies at my school, i never felt like a freak for being female and good at maths. (just a freak for being good at maths in general).
What was interesting to note is how people who were good at maths went to university - most of the girls good at maths pursued areas not heavily related to maths/science. I studied criminology/law, another studied journalism, another commerce. The boys good at maths all studied business/commerce/economics/mathematics related subjects at university.
Jocelyn — February 9, 2010
I'm 56, female, and possessed of an abiding terror for most computation. Problems that require reasoning or estimation aren't as difficult, and, as a teacher, I worked hard enough to keep ahead of my students.
I came by my attitudes honestly, though. My 7th grade math teacher told my mother that he'd seat me in the rear of the room so that I wouldn't disturb the other students who had a chance of "getting it." In high school my geometry teacher quietly asked that I be moved to something else so that he could concentrate on teaching.
There have also been some humorous moments, like the test company rep who asked my mother to meet with him and the principal. They couldn't figure out how a seventh grader could "rig" a set of standardized tests in such a way as to get 10% on the math, while completing the rest of the test batteries with a 98% composite score.
Math happens.
Basiorana — February 10, 2010
Myself and my siblings all have a natural math aptitude. My sister was a "tomboy," as in she was athletic and liked "boy" things like trucks and trains, so "of course" she'd like math too, and she majored in it. My brother is also a math major. I, meanwhile, was more traditionally "feminine" with my interests-- cooking and caring for animals. Thus, my mother would constantly talk about how it's okay if I'm bad at math, and never pushed me as hard. It wasn't until I was in high school that I realized that this "bad" math student can actually do pretty complex equations in her head-- I just didn't put as much effort in at the earlier stages because I thought I was going to be bad at it.
As a result, I'm the only child in my family who doesn't have a straight-up math degree. Of course, I'm going to be getting my masters in biostatistics and epidemiology... The thing is, my mother herself was pushed into a liberal arts route, and now works as a computer programmer-- still claiming she's bad at math. Yet I've seen her work-- it requires serious math skill. My grandmother was a teacher, and would calculate grades quickly in her head as she claimed she was not good at math. It's interesting that many women will insist women are bad at math and they themselves can't do it even as they excel in using it every day.
I do wonder what happens in all-girl schools, where young women compete against other women. Is this aspect enhanced, because everyone is accepting that girls are bad at math and they teach accordingly? Or is it lessened because girls can't compare their scores to men? I do know that girls on average do better in traditional school environments (probably because they are trained to sit quietly and behave from an earlier age, and to not act out). Interesting.
JDP — February 10, 2010
It should probably be pointed out that the SAT is not a hard test at all; the concepts tested are basically all learned by the 8th grade level. The difficulty is that the test tries to convince you that it is harder than it actually is, and trick you into wasting time on a problem that you're not getting anywhere on. So, to a large degree, the SAT (and the GRE, even) rewards confidence, not competence. Since confidence is strongly gendered by society, that could still explain a lot of the disparity.
And a closing thought on that. There's been a lot of talk about "genius" here, but not a lot of deconstruction of the term. Genius in my experience tends to be a combination of proficiency and confidence. Most of the people I know in my field who I would consider "geniuses" are not necessarily more proficient than non-genius members of my field; but they are a lot more confident.
Undefined — February 10, 2010
I guess the thing to really watch out for here is the tendency to bias one's scientific opinions on the basis of one's moral/political convictions. Of course, that's exactly what happens with 'common sense' views on the relation between gender and mathematical ability, as demonstrated here, but it can quite easily go the other way of course: a prior (mistaken) conviction that gender equality hinges upon the non-existence of innate gender differences leads one to count evidence in favour of non-difference as unquestionable and evidence against as inherently suspicious. For example, I don't recall the last time I saw a post here entitled 'the truth about x' that reported, for example, the findings of cross-cultural surveys on mate preference that constitute evidence for innate gender differences (e.g., Buss 1989, "Sex Differences in Human Mate Preferences", Behavioral and Brain Sciences 12...obviously quite a long time ago), and I doubt that any would be published without a fair degree of critical scrutiny. Critical scrutiny and scepticism are good, of course: they're the bread and butter of scientific rationality. It's just that given the current state of our evidence, the conviction that there exist no gender differences to speak of is as much an unargued assumption as the contrary; and the selection of evidence that favours one's prior assumptions is to be avoided.
Maggie — February 10, 2010
Not a girls in math story, but a girls in science story:
I went to a small, all-girl liberal arts college with a small science program but a HUGE nursing program. There was this chemistry teacher (female) who taught really tough science courses, most of which had a few science majors and a ton of nursing majors who had to take it for graduation. Most of the nursing students found her classes really, really hard, since they focused on building scientific intuition and not memorize-and-repeat, and the nursing majors were already bogged down with clinical training and didn't have a lot of hard scientific background. Her office was always flooded with nursing students crying and/or needing extra help.
Once I asked her why she was so tough on the nursing students, when the other (mostly male) science professors weren't as bent on giving the nurses a gauntlet to pass through. Her response was, "The other professors might be buying into that 'girls can't do science' bullshit. The nurses can handle this."
I did both an undergrad and graduate thesis in biochemistry with her as my adviser. I now work in the biggest biochemical research center in Canada...and about 70% of my (very international) co-workers are female. We're also connected to (very international) public hospitals, and the male/female split for doctors is about 50/50, with the incoming class of med students about 60/40 female. I volunteered in a hospital in Syria for awhile, and the pharmacists and lab techs were majority female, too.
After working in the biochemical/health/research field for a few years, I don't see the effects of the "girls can't do science" attitude at all. In fact, I practically see the opposite. I wonder if "girls can't do science" is a strictly Western thing, thus these international hubs are free of that negative attitude and are flooded with capable females from around the world.
Jeremiah — February 11, 2010
I'm surprised this blog didn't take a moment to address what "math" means in the context of this research, because not all "math" is equal.
I suspect we're talking about skills beyond rote memorization of times-tables - maybe into the realm of maintaining disparate ideas simultaneously or alegbraic functions. These require methods of cognition that are most often instilled in males, although ample evidence shows this is a ridiculous cultural behavior: females are obviously just as capable.
I'm reminded of this exchange at EDGE between Steven Pinker and Elizabeth Spelke:
"As with many issues in psychology, there are three broad ways to explain this phenomenon. One can imagine an extreme "nature" position: that males but not females have the talents and temperaments necessary for science. Needless to say, only a madman could take that view. The extreme nature position has no serious proponents.
There is an extreme "nurture" position: that males and females are biologically indistinguishable, and all relevant sex differences are products of socialization and bias.
Then there are various intermediate positions: that the difference is explainable by some combination of biological differences in average temperaments and talents interacting with socialization and bias."
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/debate05/debate05_index.html
I thought it was worth considering.
pokman4 — February 11, 2010
It's maths not math, no wonder ye're shit at it
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lala — February 12, 2010
The biologist Anne Fausto-Sterling debunked the bell curve myth very thoroughly, and you can read about it in detail in her book Myths of Gender. It's very dry, because it's bundles and bundles of scientific research, but it is very informative.
The only way in which there is a "bell curve" is that there are more boys who score very low than girls. There are not more boys scoring very high than girls. Which is, of course, not actually a bell curve, but some unscrupulous folks have looked at that data and called it a bell curve in order to argue that mathematical genius is a male trait. If you remove the very low scoring males, then the female curve is identical to the male curve.
Fausto-Sterling's hypothesis for why there are more boys scoring very low than girls is that there are more males with mental and physical disabilities. She was concerned that the math tests were not made accessible to those with physical disabilities who had a hard time writing.
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consolatte kananga — February 16, 2011
okey lets just say that weman are smarter than man. no more arguments. we all know that wemen are smarter than man, it have been proved by docters and scientist so yeah!!
consolatte kananga — February 16, 2011
man are shit at a lot of things. they are so stupid at all time so why would they be smart at anything. boys aoutpersorm in maths to girls while girls are trying to do their work. so there is one prove to weman are smarter than man. man can be smart but not as smart as weman
Anonymous — February 16, 2011
okey maybe man are no so dumd but that does not mean they are smarter than female
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Lll — February 25, 2012
this is actually a rubbish article
i am not saying that boys are better or anything but a lot of the points that this takes on (such as the japan thing) do not mean anything at all. also, of course not all boys are better than all girls. nobody with half a brain believes that.
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Aliyah_asma — December 12, 2012
Girls being bad at Math in reality is basically a self-fulfillment prophecy, where girls are often being told that boys are usually better at math than they are. Therefore, as a results girls are affected psychologically believing they are actually bad at math and don't even try. For example, Barbie usually a little girl's toy is saying that she hates math.
Abigail Chesir — December 16, 2012
While it is true that boys generally tend to do better in math, and certain girls are "trained" to think that they may not succeed in this particular school subject, stil it is certainly not a guarantee that boys will always excel and girls will always fail in this subject. I think it's disgusting for a barbie doll to transmit the message to girls that they are bad at math. Everyone knows that Barbie dolls are a very popular item with young girls, and for the manufacturers at the factories that make barbie, to make them utter something that will cause tons of girls to doubt thier possible academic excellence is just really sad. It shows us how the media every day is finding new ways of transmitting messages, both positive and negative, to the american people, or in this case, to the little American girls, every day
Jon — March 7, 2013
A the issue of girls generally doing better in classrooms, it's worth considering that the classroom of today is generally tailored to appeal more to the way that girls are wired. The classroom is of team is built on cooperation and teamwork and socializing. Boys tend to thrive more on individuality and competition... among a host of of ther difference. I recommend checking out "Boys Adrift" or "Why Gender Matters" by Leonard Sax.
Hoffmann — March 7, 2013
Where this ends: In Germany a shirt for girls was recently recalled by one of the biggest internet mail orders. The slogan it was promoting: "In math I'm decoraiton" (see http://images.otto.de/asset/mmo/Preset_PSM/8387763.jpg)
ikky — March 8, 2013
I had that barbie! Haha. I also did university level maths in high school. So there is that.
ahimsa — March 8, 2013
I'm reading a book on this subject called "Pink Brain, Blue Brain" by Lise Eliot. (see http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9780547394596-1 )
I just started reading it, so I can't give a review, but it's pretty good so far.
jjok2 — March 9, 2013
Yawn. Another tired old equalist tactic. Passing off statistics on children as "proof" that gender differences don't exist. Try counting the number of mathematicians and theoretical physicists by gender.
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Bach T. Tran — May 7, 2013
The Y chromosome has nothing to do with it. In fact, it's the X chromosome that causes the extremes among boys, and why boys are often the best, or the worst, at math.
To explain this, the X chromosome indeed has genes coded for intelligence. While boys have only one, girls have two, which gives a stabilizing effect when graphed (meaning the majority of girls will be clumped together towards the line of symmetry as opposed to boys).
Boys have one, so the genes in that one X chromosome will be the one expressed since there is no other X chromosome to rely on! Boys therefore will be more on both extremes in terms of the best or worst IQ. This is clearly represented through sex-chromosome disorders since boys outnumber girls in terms of color blindness, etc.
This is represented very well on a graph for intelligence. Boys are found mainly in the center and are on average with a girl's IQ, but they outnumber girls in IQs above 115 and below 85 as well.
For every 8 male "Einsteins" (IQ 160), there is only one girl with that same IQ. for every 8 males with an IQ of 40, there will be only one girl with that same IQ, therefore it goes both ways!
Katey — June 25, 2013
Girls are good at math! DUH!
hardscrabble farmer — August 1, 2013
If women are so talented at math and science why have there been so few who have made any significant contributions to their field?
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Shilpa — August 23, 2013
I feel men and women are equally gifted in math! Those who exercise their brain with math keep their mind sharp be they men or women young or old!
I love ♥ math. It's in us, it's around us, we are in it , it's everywhere!! It has the potential to be miniscule and immeasurable at the same time, it be can't summated in mere words, it has to be understood.
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This thing is wothless!! whatever u peple cause barbie is so creepy!!
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Bobby — November 23, 2013
Why is it such a big deal that boys are better at math?
Boys and girls are not the same. They think differently. They have different strengths and weaknesses. They don't even use the same parts of their brains when they solve math problems.
Girls get better math grades because they are more responsible. They get better grades in all subjects for this same reason. Yet that same ~33 point gap remains on the SAT's in favor of boys. It's been there for 40+ years and always will be.
People pursue careers based on 2 things. Interest and talent. Boys have more of both in math and science related fields. That's life. Deal with it.
I hate the "we are all the same" arguments. Only the most ignorant people on Earth would ever believe such BS.
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Thelonious Mac — July 6, 2014
Generally speaking, since this is all generalizations, the average woman is as good at math as the average man. Notwithstanding all of my anecdotal evidence to the contrary. I have observed, however, that women seem not as interested in doing math for a living, or having to do math for a living. Again, a generalization, and just my own observation. I'm not sure what to do about this, or if anything needs to be done. If someone doesn't want to do math, they shouldn't be forced to.
Early on in school ALL children should be informed that the most lucrative careers are in STEM. They should be informed that the last thing we need is more lawyers, social workers, politicians, and especially, "community organizers."
They should be told well rounded individuals minor in things like English Literature and unemployed and unhappy people major in things like African-American Studies, and are typically viewed as losers taking the easy way out of school. Not in those words probably. People that major in African-American Studies become politicians and spend the rest of their careers making other people miserable.
So just hit the STEM drums all through schools. There should be STEM career days multiple times through semesters.
And teachers need to find better ways to teach math. Not unlike this extraordinarily creative woman:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-7tcTIrers
AION — October 5, 2014
Oh damn.
Obara — October 5, 2014
Nice work on the article. But does it really matter?
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we all knew girls are not dumb....
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Z — April 11, 2015
Since when is a classroom a "practical setting". Isn't what we learn in the classroom all theoretical until it is applied in our lives?
mayfieldga — May 27, 2015
I am wondering. There are so many more girls preparing for college and much fewer boys. I feel we really need to look at the overall makeup of students taking those tests to determine if the far greater numbers of girls tend to bring down the average.
There is a second area, I feel is very overlooked by society. I feel boys are given love and honor only when they are achieving in some area. When boys are not achieving, they are given much more ridicule and discipline to make them try harder. I feel at an early age, many of those boys given more aggressive treatment to make them tough and far less verbal interaction and other supports over time, leaves many of those boys unable to compete, so they change their focus toward sports, other areas. This then leaves a much smaller segment of boys from more supportive, say middle class homes, better able to learn and make the grades. For them, they still must generate love and honor through some achievement, but having been more supported, are able to continue and even grow in their skills, thus maintaining love and honor from society.
As for us as girls, we are much better supported, even in lower socioeconomic environments. This creates many more girls and women able to do very well in school. Since we are given love and honor simply for being girls and women, we are not as pressed into achieving the top scores as the boys and men. We are doing very well and as girls and women we are taking more AP classes in Math and Science as the boys. We simply do not need the drug of achievement as much, and so, we are not as pressed to continually strive to be at the very top. I feel we are in a much better position due to our more ease of learning and achievement society is providing for us. I feel the boys, while a few may do really really well, are losing as a group, and it is society's fault, not our hard work and "not our intelligences".
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IdPnSD — August 13, 2015
“So what’s the real story here?” The real story is (1) Math is false (2) Women are significantly sophisticated than men.
Math is false:: Can you add one apple with one orange? No you cannot. To be able to add, both objects must be of same type, and must be real numbers. Can you add two apples? No you cannot do that either, because no two objects of nature are identical. Thus math cannot be used for nature and engineering. Therefore math is false.
Women are superior:: Women can produce the most sophisticated object of the universe. They can create a human baby, and men cannot do that. Women look at math and men working on math as ignorant; do not know what they are doing. Their sophisticated brain can clearly recognize math is false and useless.
psccrealock34 — September 9, 2015
strongly gendered by society
I stopped reading when I got to the Sociology mumbo jumbo
hajira — October 4, 2015
help me on the debate topic :: is gender variation a psychological problem????
Itsnobody — November 26, 2015
Western civilization doesn't promote intelligence in women...they promote women doing things like modeling, pornography, etc...
The Western idea of women's rights is basically to please men.
The first female to a win a Fields Medal is from the Islamic Republic of Iran...she won 2 IMO Gold medals in Iran and achieved a perfect score in the IMO in Iran as well.
Even though there's more than 500 million women in Western countries and Western countries are more developed than most other countries there's never been a Western female who's won a Fields medal and very few who have achieved perfect scores in the IMO and won IMO Gold medals.
Women in the West are raised to believe that they're not supposed to be intelligent, or good at things like mathematics.
Women are raised to believe that they're supposed to do things like biology, nursing, secretary work, writing, literature, editing, etc...that's their role in society.
Writing is an extension of secretary work that's why there's many female English teachers, editors, writers, etc...that's their role in society.
There's been many females who have won Nobel prizes in Medicine and Literature because it fits into a woman's role of doing nursing and secretarial work.
In Western countries men and women have distinctly different roles...with women being inferior and men being superior.
I'll always stay on top as smarter and superior in the Western world since I'm male!
John — November 28, 2015
Can you use topology and set theory to categorize the sexes?
I came across an interesting dissertation that does just that; but is there any precedence for this, or can I write off such a study as humanities-scholar-gone-wacko?
https://www.academia.edu/5984726/Sexuated_Topology_and_the_Suspension_of_Meaning_A_Non-Hermeneutical_Phenomenological_Approach_to_Textual_Analysis
any response would be welcome
Miguel Lozano — December 8, 2015
What it is true that there are men and women that are competent in mathematics. What it is not true is that statistics scores of men and women are the same. Men outperform women in mathematics, science, and engineering in average and this difference grow while you are moving toward the highest levels.
Miguel Lozano — December 8, 2015
What is true is
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PaulC — February 14, 2016
Doers do, wannabes search for excuses. And testosterone is a fine elixir to bolster the britches.
Of course men are both at the bottom and the top. Anyone with a brain in their head, and the power of clear observation came to that conclusion by the time they were 20.
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Anagha — December 10, 2016
I think the root cause of this can be traced to a very early period when men did the job of hunting animals exactly calculating the distance and correct angle.they may have developed this skill form time to time. Since men used their brain more then women and also because women were ore engrossed in more of emotional part of life like child rearing they may have gone backwards in science.
DanialThom — December 13, 2016
Female PHDs always crack me up. They've convinced themselves that they're smart because they stayed in school for 10 extra years.
Saying that math aptitude of babies is equal before brains develop is like trying to claim that women are just as strong as men because 5 year old girls can beat up 5 year old boys. It's moronism.
They're also denying that there are difference between the races. A Study in Japan is not globally relevant.
We don't need a study to know that men are better at math and science than women. We all went to school. The smartest people in match and physics were never girls.
"Aptitude" is a function of grasping something easily. Just because you can lock a girl in a room for 5 years and teach her to program a computer doesn't mean that she has the same aptitude as her brother who can whip out better programs with half the amount of study time.
Come to terms with it.
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Tara McCarin — December 12, 2018
I completely agree with It'sNobody about the West. In the West there are social norms, especially about male and female the you don't find for instance in Iran. Women in the West have negative experiences with American men in engineering environments. The American have huge egos, and those egos can't handle a woman succeeding in what they view as a male field. My best friend is a female engineer, she was harassed and called names I won't repeat here by American men, but she pulled through it because she would look them straight in the eye and put them in their place. It was the men from the Middle East , Asia who viewed my friend as a serious engineer and team member. Meanwhile the American men were resentful. The West makes everything, every ability about gender, it's insanity!
Pete — March 15, 2019
Will you spend your entire life trying to prove that two different types of being (male and female) are equivalent cogs? No one was obsessed with this stuff prior to the Rockefeller-led feminist movement and the invention of Communism.
Common sense dictates that different things are naturally inclined to have different capabilities. For women to be tricked into constantly chasing male "achievements" is a recipe for some really bad product and some very unhappy people.
della angge septiyani — April 7, 2019
The difference mathematical abilities between girls and boys is true. Actually, even though boys outperform girls, girls often outperform boys in class. Because girls are more diligent than boys. And right, because girls often outperform boys in a practical environment, aptitude mathematics does not explain sex differences in science careers (most of them, incidentally, only require that you are clever enough in mathematics, not wild genius in that regard ).In any case, high scores in mathematics are only loosely related to those who choose scientific careers, especially for girls. In fact, many girls at my campus take mathematics study program because they are very interest with mathematic. So,the conclusion is ability a girls or boys can be honed over time. When someone continues to learn, then a person's ability will be increase.
Della angge septiyani — April 7, 2019
The truth about gender and Math
The difference mathematical abilities between girls and boys is true. Actually, even though boys outperform girls, girls often outperform boys in class. Because girls are more diligent than boys. And right, because girls often outperform boys in a practical environment, aptitude mathematics does not explain sex differences in science careers (most of them, incidentally, only require that you are clever enough in mathematics, not wild genius in that regard ).In any case, high scores in mathematics are only loosely related to those who choose scientific careers, especially for girls. In fact, many girls at my campus take mathematics study program because they are very interest with mathematic. So,the conclusion is ability a girls or boys can be honed over time. When someone continues to learn, then a person's ability will be increase.
KAT — July 17, 2019
Wonderful blog you have here but I was wondering if you knew
of any discussion boards that cover the same topics talked about here?
I'd really love to be a part of online community where I can get comments from
other knowledgeable individuals that share the same interest.
If you have any suggestions, please let me know. Appreciate it!
Carlee — September 18, 2019
Tara - I have seen this discrimination in the West myself.
I'm an Asian woman from South Korea and American men can't handle the fact that women are more than their commodity , they simply have no ability to understand people are individuals.
They are the most sexist men on the planet.
joseph yang — October 14, 2019
there's so much wrong about these assertions.
the AVERAGE SAT score is higher for males, which means overall males are doing better. it's definitely a higher variance, but we know that boys also have a higher variance of IQ.
for STEM jobs, a high score of math is needed, so even if we were similar in gender math scores for most people, there will still be much more boys above the threshold needed for STEM.
you can't compare different nations' gender to different gender, as the environment is different. american boys to american girls, japanese girls to japanese boys.
the most egalitarian countries see women not choosing math related majors, opposite of what equity wanted. You already gave Iceland as an example.
boys have been slipping in classroom setting due to political and policy changes which have consistently demotivated boys by calling them too privileged, and giving affirmative action admission for more women. There has been a decline since the implementation of AA. the fight for gender equality has marginalized many boys.
LionelMandrake — November 1, 2019
Why not look at the last 50 years of math. What does it tell us?
Jake — March 9, 2020
I wonder how much of this is society babying women. My friend was excellent at math and I always struggled in the top math classes. Then again I was use to the struggle. My female friends were upper class white and I was poor white.
In short, I struggled through differential equations and got my engineering degree. My friend, who was much better at math, hit resistance for the first time in her life when she got to differential equations and dropped her math major.
Id be interested to see the sex differences along class lines. So far my sister has shown to be extremely gritty and more than capable of pushing through difficult subjects
Mužský mozog je väčší, no nemá vplyv na inteligenciu. 7 vedecky dokázaných faktov o ženskom a mužskom svete, na ktoré musíte raz a navždy zabudnúť! - Přírodní léky — March 19, 2020
[…] podávaním presných výsledkov. Výsledky niekoľkých štúdií však preukázali, že sklony k matematike a počtom nie sú podmienené pohlavím. Môžeme teda uviesť, že neexistujú čisto ženské ani […]
Janan B — November 1, 2020
Tara, You are 100% correct about the American male, they don't really value intelligence in women, what they want are women who have perfect hourglass figures, not too smart or curious about anything.
My parents are from the Middle East, are both Mathematicians , I'm in Applied Economics, the women with generations in America are not in the upper Math classes , mostly Asian and ME women in those classes, because we don't believe in these ridiculous " societal norms ".
The typical American is vapidly sexist.
Laila Khan — September 18, 2021
I grew up in Pakistan where we don't have these insane beliefs about men and women.
The west is foolish to insist on brain "differences" you are shutting down the talents of half your population, this is sinister.
Have fun living your lies while the west sinks into an abys the EAST is laughing at you.
Railey — December 6, 2021
I'm with It's Nobody too! As a woman that excels in Mathematics over my three brothers , I find it frustrating when Americans tell me " Your situation is unusual in your family " , referring to my three bothers excelling in writing and foreign language. They are very intelligent yet fought through math and science in high school, they never had high math and science abilities. My older brother teaches Spanish at a high school in Iowa , my younger brothers want to be writers specializing in fiction writing. I to this day never excelled in these areas.
American society is extremely sexist, I was plagued by American men making comments about how I didn't belong in higher math classes , while my best friends were two men, one from Egypt and one from China, they think American men are idiots. The American men also believed men and women can't be friends and attributed my friendships as sexual favors. I never had sex with my best friends and to this day we are best friends with spouses of our own.
It's Nobody is factual about American society and women. Women in the US daily have to defend ourselves against inane assumptions!
I'm sick of hearing women aren't spatial , something I excel at!
America grow the ef up!
ahsen trutalib pk — December 6, 2021
read mission islam - muslim women in science i invite women to islam allah hafiz
ahsen trutalib pk — December 6, 2021
women only hv difference in birth giving women hv no difference in brain per individual woman in west r demeaned to objects freedom 4 women in islam forgets american man he wants u to be slave allah give woman rights u are a queen of home and work no limits upon u seek knowledge oh women allah hafiz i invite women to islam inshallah u have no mental limits oh women free urself
Susan R Lang — February 6, 2022
I used to be brainwashed by a Christian fundimentalist cult in Idaho . We used to have sessions at retreats about male and female roles and talents.Females had few talents other than emotion and nurturing , while males were granted everything else.
darrell — August 25, 2022
My daughter excells over my son in math. She doesn't try harder , she is simply better at math and science while my son is better at writing and foreign language.
Gender plays no part in talent. this is a stupid bias.
darrell — August 25, 2022
Kat! You are spewing rubbish from a now debunked book!
Gendered brains DO NOT exist! Never have never will!
Brains collect new information everyday, molding them into an individual mosaic of raw talent, brains are individual!
darrell — August 25, 2022
Bobby! You are a male chauvanist asshat condescending twat!
You make women hate men! Deal with that!
Kayla A K — August 27, 2022
Jake The universities are working against women especially large elite institutions.
They tout "equality" as a social shallow rant , behind closed doors there is quite a different attitude.Women students are influenced by councellors and the councellors have a strong gender bias. Before I was really on to them I was steared away from mathematics , " Are you sure you want such a tough major" I asked some young men about what happened to them in counceling , they were encouraged to take math, never did they hear any discouragement.
I know people from other countries, they never faced gender bias in universites. The USA is the gender bias capitol of the world!
Kayla A K — August 27, 2022
Susan My parents and I used to listen to Christian podcasts, the gender bias was about every aspect of life.
Micharl Gurian was a guest on KKLA years ago and kept harping on nonexistant differences , every call in agreed with Gurian as though the program was heavily monitored.
They don't like anyone to question their rediculous narratives.
I tried calling in KKLA when they had a segment with Christian relationship coaches , I was put on hold until the program was over.
Because of my difference of opinion I wasn't allowed to express my thoughts or disclose information contrary to their rigid nonsense!