I work with one of the most heartbroken groups of people in the world: fathers whose adult children want nothing to do with them. While every day has its challenges, Father’s Day—with its parade of families and feel-good ads—makes it especially difficult for these Dads to avoid the feelings of shame, guilt and regret always lurking just beyond the reach of that well-practiced compartmentalization. Like birthdays, and other holidays, Father’s Day creates the wish, hope, or prayer that maybe today, please today, let me hear something, anything from my kid.
Many of these men are not only fathers but grandfathers who were once an intimate part of their grandchildren’s lives. Or, more tragically, they discovered they were grandfathers through a Facebook page, if they hadn’t yet been blocked. Or, they learn from an unwitting relative bearing excited congratulations, now surprised by the look of grief and shock that greets the newly announced grandfather. Hmm, what did I do with those cigars I put aside for this occasion?
And it’s not just being involved as a grandfather that gets denied. The estrangement may foreclose the opportunity to celebrate other developmental milestones he always assumed he’d attend, such as college graduations, engagement parties, or weddings. Maybe he was invited to the wedding but told he wouldn’t get to walk his daughter down the aisle because that privilege was being reserved for her father-in-law whom she’s decided is a much better father than he ever was.
Most people assume that a Dad would have to do something pretty terrible to make an adult child not want to have contact. My clinical experience working with estranged parents doesn’t bear this out. While those cases clearly exist, many parents get cut out as a result of the child needing to feel more independent and less enmeshed with the parent or parents. A not insignificant number of estrangements are influenced by a troubled or compelling son-in-law or daughter-in-law. Sometimes a parent’s divorce creates the opportunity for one parent to negatively influence the child against the other parent, or introduce people who compete for the parent’s love, attention or resources. In a highly individualistic culture such as ours, divorce may cause the child to view a parent more as an individual with relative strengths and weaknesses rather than a family unit of which they’re a part.
Little binds adult children to their parents today beyond whether or not the adult child wants that relationship. And a not insignificant number decide that they don’t.
While my clinical work hasn’t shown fathers to be more vulnerable to estrangement than mothers, they do seem to be more at risk of a lower level of investment from their adult children. A recent Pew survey found that women more commonly say their grown children turn to them for emotional support while men more commonly say this “hardly ever” or “never” occurs. This same study reported that half of adults say they are closer with their mothers, while only 15 percent say they are closer with their fathers.
So, yes, let’s take a moment to celebrate fathers everywhere. And another to feel empathy for those Dads who won’t have any contact with their child on Father’s Day.
Or any other day.
Josh Coleman is Co-Chair, Council on Contemporary Families, and author most recently of When Parents Hurt. Originally posted at Families as They Really Are.
Comments 58
S. — June 16, 2017
I suppose you MUST have also considered that you only have one side of the story, the father's, and that it's likely they'll either downplay the negative impact they've had on their children's lives, or they are simply too myopic and self-centered to even understand what has caused their children to cut them off from their lives. I find this piece pretty short-sighted and one-dimensional. Not the awesome analytical rigour I've come to love at SocImages.
EstrangedAdultChild — June 16, 2017
This gets under my skin. I am semi-estranged from my parents, because they were emotionally abusive when I was growing up, and are so racist I refuse to let my children interact with them unsupervised. If my parents were to see a therapist, I could almost guarantee you they would say there is simply no reason for this estrangement, they are baffled, how could I do this to them? They may even blame my husband (who has nothing to do with it). They refuse to acknowledge what they did, and how they still behave. I am the bad guy, they are the victims.
I'm also a member of an online support group for adults who are estranged from their abusive parents, and my story is absolutely par for the course in these kind of situations. Adult child makes a self-preservation decision to be estranged, parent refuses to understand, and will complain to anyone who will listen about the unfair treatment they are receiving, and how they're being denied their right as parents/grandparents.
I'm sure there are some parents out there that have lost touch with their kids through no fault of their own, but I truly can't imagine this is the majority of the total population of estranged parents. If your children know how to get in touch with you but choose not to, you should be looking in the mirror and asking yourself some hard and painful questions.
Q. — June 16, 2017
This article seems to completely ignore the power dynamic between parent and child - begging sympathy for parents with no mention of what their children must have gone through.
Speaking as an estranged child, the last thing I wanted today, in addition to all the father's day adverts making me feel uncomfortable, was this guilt trip.
I'm quite certain my dad doesn't understand what happened, but uncritically presenting a parent's belief in their own innocence seems like a pretty good way to gaslight everyone who's currently in an unhealthy relationship.
My judgement in ending the relationship was sound, and made with the
support of everyone who knows me (family included), and yet now you've
made me doubt myself.
Conuly — June 16, 2017
Allow me to present a link from Issendai's excellent series on estranged parent forums:
The Missing Missing Reasons (And when you get to the bottom, be sure to click onto page two.)
Morgan Roete — June 16, 2017
This is incredibly misleading. All children are born loving their parents and the decision to cut off a parent is incredibly painful. I know that my father has zero awareness of the actual reasons why he isn't more involved in our lives, just as he doesn't take any responsibility for his bankruptcy and for being practically fired after less than a year from every job he ever had (threatening to punch a supervisor in the face is a very reasonable thing to do after all!). He wouldn't tell a therapist how he stalked my mother for years, making threatening calls etc and how his low-level alcoholism has made my childhood home filled with uncomfortable and embarrassing memories. My brother held on to the relationship longer than i did but not once in 15 years has my father ever tried to visit us (it's only a 5 hour drive) - just as always, we were supposed to come cheer him up because that's what children are for - your personal validation. Little cheerleaders.
Jennifer — June 17, 2017
Wow. instead of 'clinical experience' how about some actual research from both sides? When that's done, it's clear estranged adult children have been clear about why they are estranging, and the parents claim no idea why. http://standalone.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/HiddenVoices.FinalReport.pdf
Douglas Farrell — June 18, 2017
To all the children posting their justifications for cutting communication with your Father, As the article states, many of us are in this position as the result of factors beyond our control.
If you think you are a victim of abuse then take a serious look at the the term abuse and make sure it really applies to the way your Father has treated you your entire life. Did he do the best he could with the resources he had at different stages in your life?
Even if he didn't, he is Human isn't he?
When, ever, was a problem solved by eliminating communication from it?
Whenever did withholding love help heal a dysfunctional situation?
One more thing, take a look at how your Father grew up. Was he abused by his parents? Not long ago, what may be termed abuse today was simply a style of parenting.
I do not want you to think I am discounting actual abuse, however even in those cases cutting communication never helped bring about a resolution.
To all my daughters, Daddy Loves You!
Sam Gafutz — June 18, 2017
This article was quite good and helpful... based on the idiot, self-important responses... was also quite helpful in seeing where the real problem is... Thankless, self-centered, Goddless individuals, deceived in everyday. No wonder parents of adult children are alone... the children bought-into the world society system, more than their families... and the Molotov cocktail forms when said father had to get away from the "mother" who also propagates the wedge between the father and their child (whom he worked hard for and was present all their lives). The whole bunch of you are scum... (Gotta learn to walk away from scum)
Rose Pernice — June 18, 2017
The people who have responded to this article are obviously estranged children who are hurt by their estrangement. I believe in most cases of children who estrange themselves from their parents, there are valid reasons of real abuse. Unfortunately today they are a growing amount of cases where good parents are being alienated by their spoiled, manipulative and coddled children. Children who decided to punish their parents when the gravy train ceased and they had to stand on their own two feet in the world. Children who were spoiled and upon learning that they had to support themselves, grew bitter. Estranged children of loving parents do exist. This is a very real situation. My husband and I adored our daughters and yet only one of them is estranged. My estranged daughter has been manipulated by a society that told her, "your nobody unless your a victim". My daughter has never been a victim. She was doted on and loved by both her parents. We never raised a hand to her. She was always well fed, well dressed and well schooled. We lived in an affluent suburb. She had parties and friends. She went to all the dances in High School. We attended all her performances in school. She graduated and she was sent to college. The trouble with children these days is we never taught them to be grateful. We spoiled them rotten.
Conuly — June 19, 2017
So, downthread I linked to Issendai's study of Estranged Parent Forums.
Sad to say, these responses from estranged parents are fairly typical. They "don't have any idea" why their child is estranged, but they're sure it's a problem of modern society, or lack of gratitude, or being loved TOO much, or anything other than toxic parenting. No insight at all.
rgl — June 19, 2017
My father died thinking he was a wonderful father with ungrateful children. These are actual words he wrote to me in an e-mail.
My primary memory of my father is him trying to strangle my mother to death in front of me. My brother's primary memory is my father stealing the ring and watch our grandfather left him to pawn for drug money. My youngest brother has cerebral palsy and his only memory of my father is that, when he was a toddler, my dad just stopped showing up at the hospital to visit him.
People often speak of the entitlement of millennials, but I have never observed a generation more entitled than baby boomer parents who feel entitled to love, devotion, and access to their adult children no matter their behavior.
danarana — June 25, 2017
There are, of course, some cases of estrangement which really aren't the parents' fault. But, the author of this article works with estranged parents. So you're getting their side of the story, and not the child's. This is going to produce some severe biases and errors in your perception of what's going on.
It's an oft-noted fact that abusers often win over family counselors, who will end up siding with the abuser over the abused partner, because abusers are often charming and manipulative.
Some people already recommended http://www.issendai.com/psychology/estrangement/missing-missing-reasons.html and I want to second/third that: it explains really well the gap between what the parent says and reality (in many cases).
David — June 30, 2018
Every case is unique, if you have a reaction to this article, there is unfinished business you must be accountable for. There are many more articles “out there” that “bash” dads.
For me, this was simply another perspective of pain. There are certainly a plethora of parents out there, whom are neglectful, abusive, etc. Is it possible, in this one particular case, that this father was good to his daughter ?
Blake — June 12, 2019
I appreciate this article and I appreciate reading the responses. My adult three children are estranged for 7 years. It occurred as a result of my ex using cult like manipulation tactics during the divorce process. I actually caught my ex setting me up in a situation. I thought my ex and I were fighting for our marriage. I was and my wife was manipulating the children and stealing money. During this period the “ugly” in my personality was always there. It was the hardest, scariest time in my life and at the same time my children went silent. I was not acting like my best self. During this time of horribleness I constantly thought that I was genuinely going crazy. I’m sad to this day that my children had to experience that time period. My wife (at the time) handed me a letter from my daughter about why she was (also) upset with me. From that moment on she has never spoken to me and she was 15 at the time and she is my youngest. God I miss my daughter, my little girl and my youngest like you can’t even believe. At the time I didn’t understand the letter, it was thrust at me during another horrible moment from my ex and I have never seen the letter since then. So yes - I suppose I was “told” why I’m estranged. Now my daughter is 22 and my sons are a few years older. For the first 5 years of the estrangement I texted, emailed, called and mailed letters and presents. My oldest son has seen me once and I discovered that every communication and present was .... vilified. They put bad intentions behind even presents that I sent. I’m sorry but that’s so hateful. I have an advanced degree in psychology and I’ve used that to self therapy. I’ve realized that in addition to all the life events missed in the last 7 years, I’ve also missed the conversations and the decisions and the questions and the excitement about those life decisions. In other words - my children are not connected to me and I don’t know who they are nor why. I cried my eyes out and rented a small apartment and picked up income form consulting gigs and just enough to live because I couldn’t stop crying and I didn’t know how to do something like talk to people who either express the good in their own families nor could I answer any questions about my own children. And then I realized I have paid my dues and I shouldn’t let something that knocked my feet out from under me end my life. I had to keep working on the estrangement and I knew I couldn’t let it derail me again. And so I mourned all the exciting life events that’s parents anticipate with children, including engagements, marriages and grandchildren. I have mourned it all and I’m rebuilding my life. I feel sorry - so sorry for my children. They got were cought in the middle and took sides during those few short years of divorcing and they made a decision to cut their own father out of their lives forever. Now after 7 years - I know in my heart that there will never be / nor can be a happy ending. Even if they tried there would be all those years of time that would be sitting in between us. Plus of course, the manipulation that they received from their mother. Actually and truthfully - I don’t want to even have that meeting now - all it would do is hurt my children. How could I not bring up my truths and how is it possible that my children wouldn’t then feel betrayed by mommy. No - I don’t want them really hurt and so I have no hopes nor desire to ever talk to them again.
Carlo D’ Orfano — June 15, 2019
My father was never in my life, save for an appearance two or three times a year, on my birthday or Christmas to spend an hour or two with me and I felt nothing but sadness after. To this day, years later, we only email each other occasionally. He and I are strangers in life and that never gets any better, nor never will. I do feel love for him, oddly enough. He is a loner and so am I. My mother never had anything good to say about him and I understand why. He was a dead beat father who only cared for himself. He will soon be gone as he approaches 98 years old. I will always grieve not having him in my life, yet I have survived despite that. I doubt he ever regrets ignoring my existence. He is just too selfish and pompous to really feel anything concerning his only son. I have to forgive him and myself.
Kyle — June 24, 2019
How did we arrive here? My 21-month son is laying in my arms, sleeping. I googled ‘estranged fathers in Sweden’ as an American living here, noticing a pattern of people didn’t learn the truth about their parents split until then. My son’s mother doesn’t see the value of ‘dad’, wasn’t allowed hers afterall. Carlo... everyone ,
Victim is built-in, heal yourselves! Stop buying what they’re selling. Emotional abuse must be the worst, but it’s all love. It must be
Deborah Henderson — June 15, 2020
I'd really like to hear more about estrangement of adult children because the elderly father marries a very insecure woman who uses her husband as a pawn in her power struggle to feel loved and important in the adult children 's lives.
Jamie — June 20, 2020
I am estranged from my eldest son 23 years old, my middle son 15 and my daughter aged 14. I have only seen her for ten minutes in 10 years. When I divorced I was run out of town by my ex wife and her new boyfriend/husband. I was even made to pay him a divorce settlement and not the ex wife! By some looney judge. Ten years later I witnessed a repeat as my unhinged eldest son pushed me in a swimming pool with cellphone, keys and wallet and kicked my car. Emails followed with death threats from my unhinged children. I had lent my know it all eldest son A lot of money to trade Robinhood (not on margin) what does he do but trade on margin Like a complete schmuck. When he cashed out I reclaimed some of my money. And refused to bail him out. Unhinged and violent he went after me with younger brother in tow. As he approached my car having chased me all over LA I drove away from these entitled angry cash extractors...only for the cops to call me on a murder charge....He had hurt himself running after my car. Like a French movie it just got worse and worse and then Covid came. Five months later I am back in Europe away from a jerry springier family of complete drama that feeds on unmade beds and chaos ...I had paid for their apartment, their truck, expensive furniture , their food and was treated like shit on a shoe. I wish them luck but realise a toxic Ex wife and toxic children will never change. And my advice is to let them go and find out what the real world is like because entitled children and spoilt children become monsters to divorced dads...trading their love to their father like a credit card, shallow, sick and sad. but I realise now they don’t know any better because I didn’t raise them...they will never change...
Gavin Byrne — June 21, 2020
I don't think I've ever read so much hatred and bitterness on 1 page in a long, long time. I, myself, am an estranged father who lost contact with 2 daughters almost 11 years ago. My only crime was to walk away from a seriously abusive relationship that I endured for 10 years. When you're told by your children's mother that 'if you walk out that door and leave I'll take everything from you; starting with the girls (my children)' a person will endure a lot of pain/abuse to make sure his children are in his life, even if it means putting up with an abusive relationship. In the end, I had to leave. It was either that or I would have been broken for life; physically & mentally
The aftermath of leaving that relationship left me financially ruined as I was hurled into a family law system that is so corrupt, oppressive, coercive & riddled with malfeasance that it really was hard to fathom. You are baffled when you realise that a system put in place to protect our most innocent is nothing but a money-making machine that will drag cases out for the longest possible time in order to financially milk the parents for all they are worth. Faced with devious and oppressive social workers, judges, solicitors & medical professionals I thought I was the only one until I researched my situation and discovered that there were millions of estranged children, mothers & fathers from all corners of the globe. Although this didn't make the pain of estrangement any less severe, it gave me some hope that my daughters may just stumble upon something online to ease their pain & suffering
I can't delve into every single comment from above but it's clear to be seen that this is a topic that instils very strong emotions in people from all walks of life: and rightly so. If you remove the frills and camouflage from the family courts it's evident they are abusing both children & parents alike. Good parents are being eradicated from innocent children's lives while children are being denied their fundamental rights to protection & love from both parents. All over the world, abusive parents are left as the sole caregivers to innocent children after deviously pulling the wool over the eyes of all the "so-called" professionals involved with their children's custody/access proceedings
After almost 11 years of being estranged from my children, I can say that both my children & I are the victims of this corrupt system. It is understandable that some children should be kept safe from heir parents for many reasons, but have a thought for the millions of innocent parents & children out there who are just starting on their journey of estrangement and may come across pages like these, read the comments and maybe begin falsely believing that their genuine innocence is nothing but a mere figment of their imagination
Happy Father's Day to all you fathers out there who have been wrongfully removed from your children's lives. To all the innocent children out there who have been estranged from your Mammies or Daddies without reason, take back what is rightfully yours and show the people responsible for your current situation that they have failed in their attempts to break you
Happy Father's Day from Ireland
Roberts Kathy — June 21, 2020
My daughter doesnt want anything to do with me and has treated me aweful when I told her I could not pay for her $45k wedding. We had a great relationship until then.
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Anonymous — June 2, 2023
i dont think it has anything to do with wanting to be independent, that sounds like something a 12 year old would think, if the person is an adult who refuses to talk to their father, I have a hard time believing the father did nothing wrong to that person, as most full grown adults would want a healthy relationship with both of their parents
nvius — June 17, 2023
Well said, Dr. C. AKA Voice in the Wilderness
Paul — June 18, 2023
I think that simply writing from the perspective of an estranged adult child or parent, that person will be judged in such a thread. I have loved and given everything in my power to love my son yet we are still estranged. It has been a year since our estrangement began. I have cried every day. Perhaps my son has too. That would be the last thing that I would wish for him. Every case is unique and I don't intend to explain our situation. My observation is that a person can have no deliberate intention to cause harm and yet, he or she is deliberately punished for a perceived fault of faults. I'd like to ask that both parents and adult children realise the importance of a healthy, trusting, kind and loving relationship and that they begin to find a way to help, support each other and to positively nourish their relationship. Take these steps today, if it is at all possible. One day, we will all die. Nothing in life is as important as love.
Brandon — June 20, 2023
Well, i can say in my situaton that things can line up that push parents and grown children apart. My son and i were super close, and spent time together everyday. But i divorced his mother after she became pregnant with another mans child. We had grown apart as it was, but cheating with someone that ministers at a church was pretty shocking. But all the same he was angry at me that we divorced. About a year later i got remarried to another woman, and he despised her from the start. He repeatedly tried to engage in arguing matches whenever he came around, and i would end up playing referee. It all came to a head about 3 months ago, when he came to my house drunk and tried to start a physical altercation with my wife. I tried to protect him(which seriously angered my wife) and i pulled him out of the house, hitting me in the process. Since then he ignored me, even when i see him at family functions. He didnt call or text on Fathers Day or my birthday. So i understand how some of you fathers feel.
Nicholas Norton — September 4, 2023
I think the article is fairly balanced. I understand that everyone has some tale to tell of their parents having a negative influence on their lives at some point. It's how we respond and the perspective years later that we choose to take. I was accused of 'yelling too much', that was it apparently. Discounting the fun, laughter, support and care. It boiled down to mum let me do things that you didn't. My ex tried to be my children's best friend instead of a mother. Hence guess who always got cast as the bad guy. Worst still she introduced a guy into the mix, who basically squeezed me out of my kids lives. I've learnt that parenting is not easy and most people try to do the best they can. As adults I look back at my own parents and think of how much sacrifice they made for my welfare. Inspite of mistakes they might have made their intentions were always in my best interests. I love them for that. I wish my kids had that kind of perspective. Perhaps one day they will
Walter Meyer — September 5, 2023
I found the whole subject very intereting, considering some of it fits to me like a glove. However, in my case, with five children involved as father, I found they all went thtough the different stages described in the article, and fortunately, four out of the five have changed to what a parent expect in many ways. They get hammered from their own children now and I guess see what life is all about. Good luck for all you guys out there, and there is always hope, but it could take some time. Cheers.