In a really fantastic post at Shakesville, Time Machine argues that rape jokes are problematic, even when uttered by people who would never assault anyone, because they signal to actual rapists that their behavior is acceptable and normal.
A lot of people accuse feminists of thinking that all men are rapists. That’s not true. But do you know who think all men are rapists? Rapists do.
So, when someone drops a rape joke and people laugh, the small percent of men who are rapists think that they’re surrounded by like-minded friends. Speaking to the joke-teller:
That rapists who was in the group with you, that rapist thought that you were on his side. That rapist knew that you were a rapist like him. And he felt validated, and he felt he was among his comrades.
What’s interesting about this observation is that it reminds us that we need to be more aware of the impact of our words not on victims (as the usual argument against the rape joke goes), but on perpetrators. This is a much-needed re-framing of the problem that we call, passively, “violence against women,” but should really be called “men’s violence against women and men.” While both men and women are victims, the vast majority of interpersonal violence is committed by men.
The need for a shift in frame — from the survivor to the perpetrator — is also a theme of this TedTalk by anti-violence educator Jackson Katz. He uses another really interesting way of showing the linguistic erasure of men in this discussion (at 4:08).
He also dismisses “sensitivity training” because it, too, centers the survivor of the violence instead of drawing our attention to the perpetrator (sensitivity to who?). Instead, Katz argues, men need to step up and be leaders in the fight against men’s violence against women and men. Because violence is not a “women’s issue,” it’s a men’s issue.
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
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julia — May 27, 2013
I did a bit of tumblr poking around, and it looks like that quote is originally from a comment posted on Shakesville (link here: http://www.shakesville.com/2011/02/penny-arcade-open-thread.html#comment-141696567). It has been "liked" over 400 times which is pretty inspiring. I can't find their name, but they blog here: http://everysinglemovie.wordpress.com/
iiii — May 27, 2013
See also http://kateharding.net/2007/04/14/on-being-a-no-name-blogger-using-her-real-name/
SM — May 27, 2013
Interesting, I was having this conversation with my partner last week. He was hearing some fellows at his workplace commenting on women' bodies behind their backs, to other male co-workers (referring to one of them as meat!!). We were talking about what to do in this situation as he was worried about confronting the guys for their behaviour. He thought they would argue that because the women can't hear the remarks, no harm was being done. But I had suggested a similar argument to this post. This language normalizes the idea that bodies are property, and if you happen to be reinforcing this idea to the wrong person, that person could take things farther. And then what? You ultimately become an enforcer of rape culture for the sake of your 'jokes.'
wileywitch — May 27, 2013
I remember a time when men regularly made rape jokes in mixed company and women talked about it in hushed whispers among women only, avoiding even the mention of the word "rape." "Was she----?"
When Susan Brownmiller said that "Rape isn't funny," in a press conference for her new book "Against Our Will: Men, Women, and Rape," the saying that "Feminists have no sense of humor" was spawned.
It's nice to see it framed as a "men's" problem; even though rape and the threat of rape shapes the life of most women and girls. But here we are again, trying to get the point across that rape is not funny.
Irksome.
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Darryl — May 27, 2013
Similarly, media images that objectify women should also be considered a men's issue--not only because the images are largely created by men but also because the messages imply that it is normal for men to look at women as objects. Thus, such images should be considered offensive to men.
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Von — May 27, 2013
Excellent, let's hear more of it from men!
TrinitySite — May 27, 2013
Hey, I recognize the quote from an episode of Jamie Kilstein and Allison Kilkenney's Citizen Radio podcast a few days ago.
Medaka444 — May 28, 2013
I never understood why rape jokes are problematic while jokes about murder are perfectly acceptable material. I hope I'll be able to comprehend the intricacies behind this issue some day.
nike — May 28, 2013
'The post originally appeared on Shakesville, http://www.shakesville.com/2011/03/feminism-101-helpful-hints-for-dudes.html, by a guest-poster who goes by "Time machine", in March of 2011 - if that's of any help.
JonCarter — May 28, 2013
"So, when someone drops a rape joke and people laugh, the small percent
of men who are rapists think that they’re surrounded by like-minded
friends"
Any evidence that this statement is even remotely true?
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pduggie — May 30, 2013
WHAT IF the existence of porn tell rapists that rape is ok.
Shall we censor porn?
kts89 — June 7, 2013
This is a really incredible talk. All of these points have been made before by countless women, but using his using his privilege to make positive change and be a feminist/feminist ally. I'm really impressed.
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Bertuzzi — January 14, 2014
You women are batshit crazy. Go make me a sandwich and stop reading your 50 shades of grey. You want to be dominated but not by "nice" guys. Only thugs or rich studs.
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