Cross-posted at Native Appropriations.
Florida State has been the “Seminoles” since 1947, and have had a “relationship” with the Seminole Tribe of Florida for many years, but it was solidified more recently. In 2005, the NCAA passed a resolution, calling Native American Mascots “hostile and abusive,” and prohibiting schools with these mascots from hosting post-season events. The Seminole Tribe of Florida then officially gave their permission to use Osceola as the mascot, letting FSU get a waiver from the NCAA rule.
Disclaimer, and a big one — I am not Seminole, and I don’t want to speak for the tribe. I am offering my interpretation and perspective, but it’s just mine. I am going to be up front and say that I don’t agree with the choice to give the university permission to mock Native culture (see the billboard and video I posted earlier), and I don’t find a “stoic” dude in a wig and redface throwing a flaming spear“honoring” (see photo above), and I definitely don’t think that the “war chant” is respectful in any way. In fact I find it quite “hostile and abusive.”
I do want to put the decision of the tribe into context, however. From what I understand, prior to the formalized relationship with the tribe in the 1970′s, the image of the university was not Osceola (who is a real person, in case you didn’t know. Though the image is the profile of a white faculty member), but a stereotypical mis-mash named “Sammy Seminole” who was accompanied by “Chief Fullabull,” both of whom wore cartoonish and stereotypical outfits and clowned around at games. Trying to be more “sensitive” they changed “Fullabull” to “Chief Wampumstompum.” I’m not kidding. Osceola and Renegade (the horse) were introduced in the late 70′s.
So, by entering into a relationship with the university, the mascot now represents an actual Seminole figure, and wears (close to) traditional Seminole regalia, made by tribal members. In addition to control and “collaboration” over how the image is used and portrayed, I’ve heard the tribe gets a cut of the merchandising profits, which I’m sure is no small amount of money. The president of the university also established full scholarships for Seminole students (though only 8 Seminole students have graduated in the history of the school), a Seminole color guard brings in the flag at commencement, and the tribe was recently honored at homecoming. The Seminole of FL are also one of the most successful gaming tribes in the US, and my personal opinion is that keeping the state happy on the FSU front can only be good for relations around gaming contracts.
In summary, while the mascot is far from being respectful in my opinion, at least the tribe is gaining both economic and social benefits from engaging in this relationship. At least, at the games, as the student section is tomahawk chopping and yelling “scalp ‘em”, they can look down at the field and see a real Seminole every once and awhile to counter the image of Osceola. But is it perfect? Of course not. In a lot of ways it is similar to Derrick Bell’s theory of Interest Convergence — the idea that whites will only consent to racial progress when it benefits them directly — but turned around. The tribe is consenting to this, because they benefit directly. The interests of the two parties converge.
But the hard thing about FSU is that it always gives fodder to the mascot defenders. “But the Seminole approve of Florida State! They don’t care!” Hopefully I’ve made a bit of a case as to why they’ve consented to have their image used, but I also want to point out that just because one faction of a marginalized group believes one thing, it doesn’t mean that everyone feels that way. Can you imagine if we expected all white folks to feel the same about a controversial issue… like gun control, for example? Not gonna happen. I also think that it ties back into the dilemma I’ve brought up again and again — is it better to be completely invisible as Native people, or be misrepresented? In the case of the Seminole tribe of Florida, they took the step to at least try and gain some control and power over how their people and community are represented.
For more, check out this awesome resource pulled together by Rob Schmidt of Blue Corn Comics/Newspaper Rock — offers more history, counter-arguments, quotes from news articles and Native scholars, and more: Why FSU’s Seminoles aren’t ok.
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Adrienne Keene is a Cherokee doctoral candidate at the Harvard University Graduate School of Education, where she studies access to higher education for Native students. She blogs about cultural appropriation at Native Appropriations. You can follow her on Twitter and Facebook.
Comments 23
lauraa — February 7, 2013
didn't we already do enough to erase the native american from our land and our history? now we have to remove them as a symbol for sports teams? mascots are meant to be strong images that represent power, strength and in this case, bravery. my mother was a norwegian, should i also protest the use of the viking? what about patriots, spartans, and trojans as school mascots? should descendants of industrial workers protest "Purdue Pete" the boilermaker? he is represented has having a huge head and strong but dumb, is it time to sue purdue? i think politcal correctness has gone too far, because in the act of diluting and correcting we also erase history.
devineopine — February 7, 2013
The Smithsonian's Museum of the American Indian is doing a symposium TODAY on racial stereotyping in American Sports: http://newsdesk.si.edu/releases/native-american-mascot-controversy-takes-center-stage-national-museum-american-indian. You can stream it here: http://nmai.si.edu/multimedia/webcasts/
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FSUanthropologist — February 7, 2013
Sigh… as an FSU Seminole, it just saddens me so much that we continue with the tradition of a white washed Chief Osceola. It's disgusting.
glaborous_immolate — February 7, 2013
That's the problem with group identity in general, which is the source of the issue.
Larrycharleswilson — February 7, 2013
How do the Seminoles and the Cherokees get along these days?
Tracyg_c — February 7, 2013
Osceola is my great-x-cousin actually and I'm Mvskoke. Do the Mvskoke people also benefit from this? I doubt it. No disrespect to the Seminole nation though, Osceola did join up with them after my ancestor Peter McQueen lost his battle (Red Stick War) with the US. Just seems ironic that they would pick Osceola, don't think he would have agreed with it, just as I strongly doubt "Crazy Horse" would have approved of a monument "in his honor" to be blasted into the Black Hills.
The whole situation is sticky. As lauraa says - mascots are used to represent power, strength, and...bravery. However, it also objectifies and promotes stereotypes that undermine Native identity and misinform people on Native history and culture. Should lauraa protest Vikings? If you find it offensive, yes. Native peoples, for the majority, find native themed mascots to be very offensive. They have a history as being derogatory and for the reasons above. Outsiders are constantly defining and presenting what they think "Indian" is and that's not OK. Black-face is popularly understood to be wrong and racist, why is red-face any different? Vikings, Spartans and Trojans are all historical groups that don't really exist anymore as cultures, however Natives do. They're also white, so if whites want to make them into characters for their own purposes, they have that ability. And not all european descendants are OK with it. I know Irish that are offended by Notre Dame and Scotts that are offended by Highlander mascots. It's a misappropriation of culture, a misrepresentation of an entire people and history. You want to honor people and be true to history? Than tell the truth. Don't gloss over the horrid history of America and leave out broken treaties, murdered women and children, scalping introduced by the English, forced sterilization or residence schools. It's not about being "too politically correct", it's about being respectful and not spitting in someone's face. Hasn't enough been done to the Native Americans?
Jamie Riehl — February 8, 2013
Also not Seminole, nothing to add about the wisdom of their decision (which, I assume because groups of people don't agree with each other, was also contested internally). What I do want to comment on is the politics of the waiver. I think it's actually a really good development to the NCAA resolution. It makes the issue one of consent for the represented peoples, rather than the NCAA being the final arbiters of what representations are (or are not) ok. If the NCAA is the authority on the decisions about what representations are allowed, that's paternalistic - even when (as in this case) most Native advocates agree with the NCAA decision. That just makes it benevolent paternalism. But the precedent set by the waiver is that the final decision is made by the people being represented. And that's really important.
tldr: the important thing here is not the decision itself, but who gets to make it.
ViktorNN — February 9, 2013
"The tribe is consenting to this, because they benefit directly. The interests of the two parties converge."
Maybe she isn't, but Keene seems a little too conveniently oblivious to the fact that with this post she makes up another party in the arrangement between FSU and the Seminoles, and thus her interests "converge" on the agreement as well. That is, there's obviously a niche market in the highest-end of elite academia for "critique" of these mascot kerfuffles and Keene seems well on her way to basing an entire career on this goldmine.
For her sake I hope the oppression never ends!
disqus_PvE4wA3Z4e — February 9, 2013
I'd like to put a list of articles here worth reading about the harm done by mascots such as Osceola, as well as others.
Of Warrior Chiefs and Indian Princesses: The psychological consequences of American Indian Mascots
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01973530802375003
Do American Indian Mascots = American Indian People?
http://www.ucdenver.edu/academics/colleges/PublicHealth/research/centers/CAIANH/journal/Documents/Volume%2018/18(1)_Chaney_Do_American_Indian_Mascots_42-60.pdf
and The Native American Mascot: Tribute or Stereotype
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/science-small-talk/201205/the-native-american-mascot-tribute-or-stereotype
Joe — February 9, 2013
The way I figure it, the University called up the Seminoles and asked them if it's OK to use their name. That's exactly the way I'd want to be treated, so I don't see anything bad, here. I'm FSU class of '89, and W&M class of '83. You want to trash W&M sports for shabby treatment of Natives, I'm right there with you, but FSU did the right thing.
Patrick — February 9, 2013
Just a link, that's all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uUiCL3QzpU
Seminole — February 10, 2013
"You've heard" but you should probably check your sources before you spread false information. My tribe does not get any money from FSU.
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