Cross-posted at Racialicious.
Sociologist Jooyoung Lee is writing what sounds like a truly fascinating book. Titled Blowing Up: Rap Dreams in LA, it follows a series of young Black men who are trying to make it as rappers. “Together,” Lee writes, “their stories show how rapping — and Hip Hop culture more generally — transform the social worlds of urban poor black youths.”
The video below gives us a taste of his findings. In it, he’s asked why he thinks rappers are “so maligned in our culture.” He explains that it’s because people often “take violent and misogynistic lyrics” literally. Doing so, however, is to misunderstand “how the creative process works.” He goes on to explain how one of the men he studied was pressured by a music label to cultivate an image that conformed to stereotypes of young, urban Black men.
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
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Ted_Howard — January 8, 2013
It's difficult to pass a strong judgment on someone's research based on such a short clip, but his argument seems ridiculous. Unless I misunderstood him, it seems he is arguing that peddlers of misogynistic and violent lyrics shouldn't be maligned because it's not just them that peddlers it, but an entire industry structure? I'm fine with maligning all of those involved. Also, the "creative process" nonsense makes no sense to me. Record executives have found portraying a certain image of a rapper as a violent, misogynist "thug" manages to sell records (a perhaps more interesting question is why does this music have such wide spread appeal?). When record executives promise someone success if he is willing to compromise on artistic choices, even on choices like the promotion of nasty lyrics, I would imagine most of us would be tempted. For a black youth with little opportunity who grew up in a community where rappers are often idolized the offer would seem nearly irresistible. That doesn't change the fact that we should condemn them for promoting these nasty things, but I at least understand where they are coming from.
I've always been fond of rap that actually talks openly and seriously about the black, urban experience rather than the crap the record industry tries to sell me. It wasn't always this way, or at least not as bad to the extent it is now. There was a time when rap and hip-hop actually seriously dealt with issues (my first exposure to political theory was in rap music!) of urban black youths and there were a lot of songs that didn't advocate violence or promote misogyny. The most famous example is "The Message" by Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five, though there are many other examples. The song was commercially successful, though not on the level that would be desirable to many top record executives. Unfortunately, most of this great rap and hip-hop now is done almost exclusively by artists either unattached to any label or only with small labels with little promotion budgets. I also think it's unfortunate how the music industry has taken so many black females and wrangled them into objectifying themselves. It's wasn't so long ago we have Queen Latifah on UNITY angrily proclaiming "Who You Calling a Bitch?" more or less in reply to Dr. Dre's vile "Bitches Ain't Shit." Now we have Nicki Minaj (who is just terrible musically anyway) with songs like "Stupid Hoe." It's pretty sad. An interesting discussion would be to find out why rap and hip-hop culture has descending so much into misogyny and violence. The record executives don't shape preferences, they offer what people like. Why do people want this stuff now?
Edit: I'll also point out while there were misogynistic songs prior to Dr. Dre's "Bitches ain't shit," that song was a major turning point in the orientation of rap towards these lyrics.
Elena — January 8, 2013
In it, he’s asked why he thinks rappers are “so maligned in our
culture.” He explains that it’s because people often “take violent and
misogynistic lyrics” literally.
As compared to goths, who have lyrics mostly about death and mysery and sex with the dead or the devil or just BDSM and suchlike, but who in the immense majority of cases still look like dweebs in a top hat and crushed velvet cloak so nobody takes them seriously.
/Is a goth
/Does look like a dweeb in goth clothes
myblackfriendsays — January 8, 2013
"He goes on to explain how one of the men he studied was pressured by a music label to cultivate an image that conformed to stereotypes of young, urban Black men."
Didn't watch the video, but this quote reminds me of one of the main points of the documentary Hip Hop: Beyond Beats and Rhymes by Byron Hurt. It's an excellent film, and I would highly recommend it to anyone interested in learning more about the corporate influence on rap.
ravencomeslaughing — January 8, 2013
I was going to use some lyric examples here, but honestly, I can't post them because the trigger warnings would take up most of the comment box. What I did find was popular, yet disgusting. I think there's something very worrying about a "creative process" that comes up with ways to so violently degrade and hurt women and thinks it's perfectly acceptable because it's "creative". IMHO, that's pretty darned close to the idea of pardoning Polanksi just because he makes good films...
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The Society Pages — March 28, 2016
This book is out now! http://www.jooyoungkimlee.com/#!blank/wko6i Elijah Anderson calls it essential reading and path-breaking ethnography.
Robeto — December 14, 2022
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