Many of you may have heard about NPR’s decision to fire commentator Juan Williams last week after he appeared on The O’Reilly Factor and made the following comments:
Look, Bill, I’m not a bigot. You know the kind of books I’ve written about the civil rights movement in this country. But when I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous.
Williams was widely criticized for the remarks after video of his appearance showed up on a number of liberal websites, and NPR quickly fired him, arguing that his comments about Muslims discredited him as a commentator (more on that below).
Muriel Minnie Mae, Duff M., and an anonymous contributor all let us know about the site Pictures of Muslims Wearing Things, created in response to the incident. The site deconstructs the idea of “Muslim garb” by showing…well, pictures of Muslims wearing things. New images (with awesome captions) are currently going up every few minutes, and it’s a great example of the diversity that exists among Muslims, variety that tends to get ignored in stereotypical depictions of Muslims (who are often conflated with Arabs and Middle Easterners, though the world’s largest Muslim population — over 200 million — is in Indonesia and only 20% of all Muslims live in the Middle East and North Africa).
Even in the cases where individuals are wearing something that others might identify as clearly “Muslim”, such as hijab, is it fair to say they are “identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims,” as Williams stated? Is it that Dalia, above, is stressing her Muslim identity above all else (say, more than being a professional, with the suit, or a married woman, with a wedding ring) by covering her hair? Or, perhaps, does covering her hair make individuals who are uncomfortable with Muslims unable to see her as anything but “first and foremost” a Muslim?
Side note: Since this post brings up the whole Juan Williams situation, I think I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that a number of commentators argue Williams’s comments are being unfairly decontextualized with a selectively-edited video. If you watch the full segment, he starts out with the comments above (the only part that got widely distributed), which indicate a personal discomfort with Muslims, but goes on to disagree with O’Reilly, saying that we don’t blame all Christians for the actions of Timothy McVeigh and that the concern should be not about Muslims, but about extremists. William Saletan of Slate says,
Gwen Sharp is an associate professor of sociology at Nevada State College. You can follow her on Twitter at @gwensharpnv.I’m not saying Williams is the world’s most enlightened guy. He’s wrong, for example, about the proposed Islamic Center near Ground Zero. And it’s certainly unsettling to hear him admit that he worries when he sees Muslims in distinctive dress. But admitting such fears doesn’t make you a bigot. Sometimes, to work through your fears, you have to face them honestly. You have to think through the perils of acting on those fears. And you have to explain to others why they, too, should transcend their anxieties or resentments and treat people as individuals.
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A — October 27, 2010
Wasn't it a contract issue? He was contractually forbidden to make public statements about his personal beliefs. So he could have been fired for having any sort of political bumper sticker on his car, or for registering to vote as anything but an independent.
Andie — October 27, 2010
This site made me smile.
haydin — October 27, 2010
The premise of this website appears to be: hey, look, Muslims (whose photographs appear in media available to Americans) don't always wear traditional garb, whatever that is. Well, duh. Look at the source of the photographs. Western Media (and Muslim media, for that matter) is a lot less likely to take pictures of random, non-famous, non-westernized, non-rich Muslims. If you want to see what normal Muslims actually wear when they're not famous, westernized Muslims, go to a Muslim country. No photographs appearing in media will be representative of this. For example, 95%+ of Muslim Malaysian women wear the head scarf, with no skin showing from the chin down to the hands & feet. In my experience, Muslim men are always more free to wear western clothing like Ed Hardy, because they're not judged on the same conservative dress code standards as women.
shale — October 27, 2010
I'm glad you posted the longer video and commented on it. This whole story bugs me for the reasons outlined by the Slate columnist.
If we're ever going to work through any of societies problems, we need to let stupid things be said, and we need to be able to address them. On the other hand, even if Williams wasn't disagreeing with his own views, the media today would have been unlikely to address the stupidity of his feelings. Obviously, there is (not)surprisingly little said in the coverage of this story as to why Williams sentiments were so wrong.
Of course, Williams own claims, as to why his comments and feelings are so wrong, have been consistently edited out of the coverage of this story.
Christine — October 27, 2010
"Even in the cases where individuals are wearing something that others might identify as clearly “Muslim”, such as hijab, is it fair to say they are “identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims,” as Williams stated?"
Exactly! It seems like we (non-Muslims in the US) tend to weigh a hijab as being of higher significance than, say, blue jeans, which we see people wear all the time and therefore don't feel the need to politicize.
We all make choices on our appearance based on personal identity, as well as style, culture, comfort and a million other things. In an alternate universe, any of those decisions could be picked apart to try to find some hidden political meaning. I wonder: what would Juan Wiliams think that I'm identifying myself most as, as a result of my garb?
dr kate — October 27, 2010
Why is this site so wonderful? Because it is simple, it is humorous, it is positive, and it makes it easy to talk about really difficult issues of assimilation and othering with a rich library of images to work from.
Lucia — October 27, 2010
I wonder what Juan Williams and co. would think of the many non-Muslims out there who sometimes wear "Muslim garb". What first comes to mind are the many non-Muslim women who wear hijab, because they prefer dressing in that way as a form of dressing modestly. Are people who dress that way going to be suspected too, or since they still show other signs of being Western (perhaps looking Caucasian or whatever) can they "get away with" wearing what they want?
Nadia — October 27, 2010
I know this is from the original site and not your error, but Zeb and Haniya aren't quite what the phrase 'Pakistani folk musicians' implies. The do cover folk songs from time to time, but they're pretty much pop. This wouldn't bother me except for the tendency to lump all non-western music into ethnic categories. If you listen to them, the music they write themselves is really much more jazz, latin and American-folk influenced.
gxm17 — October 27, 2010
Beautiful! Just beautiful. Thank you for sharing this playful and positive message.
Uly — October 27, 2010
When I was a kid, I went to a high school with a surprisingly large (for the time) Muslim population.
As I recall, the girls universally wore... long-sleeved shirts and jeans, but with a head scarf on top. I guess the scarf does "announce" that they're Muslim, but it's not exactly frightening clothing. I knew a Muslim woman at the time, a convert, who did wear a more "traditional" outfit... but she said people thought she was a nun.
As an adult, I've seen the Muslim population increase, and I've seen many different clothing choices among the Muslim population of the city. (And that's just the ones you can identify as Muslim by their clothing, of course. Not all Muslim women, for example, DO cover their hair.) The person who sticks out in my mind is a woman I saw a few times at the SICM, who wore long denim skirts. If it hadn't been for the hijab, I would've pegged her as Jewish, because every other aspect of her outfit just *screamed* Modern Orthodox or Conservative Jewish to me. (And for that matter, many religious Jewish women cover their hair as well.)
With that all said, any time you have to start off with "I'm not a bigot", there's a far greater than 99% chance you're a lying ass. And a bigot.
Rickey — October 27, 2010
Too bad Juan, it looks like Muslims have more liberal street creed than blacks do. You should have stuck with lefty talking points about how scary the tea baggers are.
Kauri — October 28, 2010
There's another take on this incident too, regarding the vilification and firing of some commentators, compared with other commentators who get away with stuff like this all the time:
http://flipfloppingjoy.com/2010/10/22/3603/
Yael — October 28, 2010
Haven't read previous comments (I will, later; just really tired now), so I apologise if I'm repeating something that has been said before.
What I wanted to say is that I think a part of the problem is that Williams said 'Muslim grab' when he meant 'Islamic garb' - Muslims, as that website referred to here shows, might wear many different things, but the kind of clothes that had Williams half-consciously worried are the kind that adhere to Islamic dress code, since in his mind they are linked to the more extreme fundamentalist Islam. Is it right to feel worried? No, I would like to hope his acknowledging this worry means he's aware of it being wrong (although his reasoning is poorly-worded; yes, they are dressing according to a religious dress code, and probably because their religion is an important part of their identity, but so are Ultra-Orthodox Jews, or nuns, so what exactly is the problem there?)... although I'm afraid we are all subject to those irrational stereotype-based concerns. I am Israeli, and I have to admit that some years ago, when suicide bombings were still a rather common threat, I once got off the bus and took a taxi because a guy sitting a few seats away spoke Arabic, had a large bag and was kinda fidgety. Was it rational? Not really. am I proud of it? Again, not really. But these things happen,
And in what might be a bit of a tangent, regarding that Islamic/Muslim distinction, I wonder if maybe it's not a very clear distinction to some because Christianity is not as strongly connected to national identity as is Judaism or Islam. I remember that the first time I was in the US, I was confused at first to hear people saying something like 'I used to be a Christian, but now I'm not', because this isn't really possible in Judaism (where if you are born a Jew, you can be a religious Jew, or a secular Jew, or even a converted [to another religion] Jew, but you remain a Jew the whole time, because it has a national component as well as a religious component), and as far as I know, also in Islam. So you could find a lot of people that would define themselves as Muslim, but do not observe Islam, let alone Islamic dress code - again, because it's a part of their identity regardless of actual religious belief.
papillon — April 9, 2011
Funny how, although he confessed to being scared of people in "Muslim garb",
Juan Williams was actually the one trying to stress there's a difference between being muslim and being an extremist, while O'Reilly kept pointing out that was incorrect and what the liberals would do.
MUSLIM — June 26, 2012
The 'Good Muslims and Bad Muslims'...
??? What the hell????!!!
You bastards kill people in their millions - men, women and children - many many innocent souls - then turnaround and patronise Muslims... for being... Muslim .... NO. The problem is BAD PSEUDO-CHRISTIANS/JEWS or shall we just say - AMERICAN TOERAGS SENDING THEIR BOYS OUT TO COME BACK ONLY IN BODYBAGS OR AS BASKETCASES WITH PTSD BECAUSE IT AIN'TNO JUST WAR. THIS IS KILLING FOR THE SAKE OF THE DOLLAR - THE OIL AND BLOOD-SOAKED DOLLAR.