I spent a day in Salzburg this September with a man from Dubai. We had a wonderful time comparing perspectives.
Dubai, he explained, was a wildly modern, multicultural city. The default language in public was English due to the international population. He was a stockbroker who had gone to college in London and gone part way through an MBA.
He interacted with veiled, Middle Eastern women and non-veiled Western European women daily. He seemed to have no qualms with the two styles of presentation, considering them simple choices; they were unpoliticized and carried no deeper meaning. To him, women who veiled were simply religious, like the men he knew who would not drink alcohol, and himself when he would not eat meat improperly slaughtered.
In any case, women in Dubai, he felt, were liberated. As an example, he explained how there was now a woman’s taxi service.
“A woman’s taxi service?”
“Yes, with women drivers.”
You see, it is not proper for women to be alone with a non-relative male and, so long as all taxis were driven by men, women (who also do not drive) could not run errands or visit friends. They were largely neighborhood-bound. To my friend, a woman’s taxi service was liberation. And, indeed, from the perspective of their rules, it must have seemed like freedom indeed.
I was reminded of this chat when Happy A. sent in a link to a story about a new women’s taxi service in Mexico. The taxis, painted pink, are driven by women and only women can hire them. The taxi service isn’t designed to allow women to travel, but to allow them to travel without the threat of harassment and assault.
Women’s groups, however, have called the taxis insulting. They suggest that the girly pink, the protectionism, and the make-up mirrors in the back seats seem to encourage the very objectification that makes women targets in the first place.
Pink Ladies, in the U.K., rationalizes its service with the same protectionism:
And, in Moscow, they have Ladies Red Taxi:
I think these examples, considered together, do a really good job of undermining any absolutist ideas about what is good for women.
The situations in the different countries are dramatically different. Women’s taxis improve the quality of life for women in Dubai (who can afford them) much more significantly than the taxis in, say, the U.K.
A radical feminist bent on destroying the system altogether may say that such taxis reinforce a gender binary and are easily co-opted by patriarchy (I wonder whose errands women are doing in those pink taxis?), a reformist feminist may say that the move is a good option for women both there and elsewhere, if not actually an end to male domination.
I think both are good points.
Does the fact that the Mexico service is run by the city and the U.K. service by a private company make a difference? In the first case it is driven by concern for women’s safety, in the second case it is driven, at least partially, by profit. Should people be profiting from women’s vulnerability?
Is a woman’s taxi service inherently feminist and liberating? Or is it always sexist and demeaning?
I’m not sure what I think about women’s taxis, but I like how cross-cultural comparisons like these remind us that context matters.
Click here for another sociologist’s take on the extent to which the pink taxis should be seen as liberating for women.
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
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Wendy — December 8, 2009
I would quite like a service that was female friendly and safe. I have to use taxis to get me to schools quickly as I am a supply teacher that doesn't drive. I never quite feel safe in a taxi on my own
Craig — December 8, 2009
Immanuel Kant: "Out of the crooked timber of humanity, no straight thing was ever made." Something I try, and often fail, to keep in mind.
Scapino — December 8, 2009
"Does the fact that the Mexico service is run by the city and the U.K. service by a private company make a difference? In the first case it is driven by concern for women’s safety, in the second case it is driven, at least partially, by profit. Should people be profiting from women’s vulnerability?"
Assuming that one accepts the taxis as part of the solution as opposed to part of the problem, people making profits off of them should be celebrated. If you're going to limit social progress to not-for-profits and the government, it's not going to happen.
The majority of posts on this blog are about for-profit companies furthering existing the status quo with their irresponsible choice of message. Demonizing those who are using their capital and businesses to help, or at least try to help, solve some of these problems just makes it seem more and more like private companies can't win with feminists/liberals/whatever group we're talking about. Profit != patriarchy, even if they choose to paint their cars pink.
SJL — December 8, 2009
I see the taxis in all cases as kind of an intermediary measure. The ultimate goal, of course, if for women to have freedom and safety in transport worldwide. But there are multiple challenges to this goal, varied by country and culture. Something that helps women get through their daily lives with greater ease, even if it operates within the bounds of sexism, can still be a great step in the right direction. Until the greater goals are reached, women still have to find a way to run their errands, go to work, school, meetings, etc.
Rose — December 8, 2009
I always felt safer when I got a female cab driver when I lived in South Korea. Korea isn't a particularly dangerous country, but it was a vulnerable moment in my day. If I could have chosen a female cab, there in Korea, or here, I would. Safety is an elusive feeling.
Sarah — December 8, 2009
I think this whole thing is pretty super-awesome. You're right - some of the more radical feminists would probably object to having a separate service for women at all - but speaking practically, the separate taxis are a great idea. It's certainly liberating for women in Dubai who would otherwise be stuck at home. In the U.S. this might be considered insulting, but in Dubai, as compared to what freedoms women had before the taxi service, it must feel incredibly freeing.
In other countries where the taxi services are being presented as protective, I think that this is again a wonderful concept. Some might say that in compensating the fact that men feel free to attack and rape women, the services are being part of the problem. But, again, there is a practical side of things that cannot be ignored: women *do* get attacked, and we need a way to go out and abut safely. So, again, this service (I would say) is liberating even to already "liberated" women - it removes the burden of fear from around our shoulders for at least that short time.
As for the pink being insulting because it's a stereotypically feminine color - I think of it the same way as I think of the dress on the sign for the ladies' restroom. While the stereotype of women in dresses can be considered insulting, it's simply a distinctive measure. There are already yellow and blue and purple cabs around - the pink (or in that one case, Red) will stand out so that a woman who wants a woman's taxi won't accidentally flag down a unisex taxi.
cubicalgirl — December 8, 2009
I would LOVE a woman-driven taxi. To me it's like those women-only subway cars (in Japan, I think). I rarely take taxis while I'm by myself because of the fear of being harassed (a friend was kept from leaving a taxi until she gave the driver her phone number and another friend felt so threatened in a taxi that she waited until he slowed for a light then jumped out while the car was still moving) or, I should say, being harassed further since I've been bothered on public transportation or just walking down the street. I don't need the cars to be pink but until everyone in the world learns how to control themselves and not harass people I welcome the few minutes I can relax and not worry if I'm going to get to my destination safely.
As an aside, in NYC car services are quite popular (like a taxi, but the cars are nicer and not yellow). The cars tend to be unmarked except maybe for some registration stickers. You can hire one at the company's disptach center or, as I've had happen to me, one will just pull up next to you on the sidewalk and the driver will offer you a ride. I don't live in NYC, so the first time this happened to me I freaked out because I thought a strange man was trying to entice me into his car. After a minute I realized it was a car service, but really, there's got to be a better way to get business than to drive up next to a woman in an unmarked car.
Lindsey — December 8, 2009
Women are employed in these services and they are, in fact, serving women. I love it!
Pat — December 8, 2009
About bloody time you had a post on this blog that acknowledged the importance of context.
Hazel Stone — December 8, 2009
Radfems don't blame other women for doing what they need to do to get by in the Patriarchy. That doesn't change the fact that any society that NEEDS pink or red taxis is beyond effed up.
Katy — December 8, 2009
I'm a human being who happens to be a female, first and foremost. My natural instincts, politically correct or not, are there for a reason: to keep me safe. Keeping myself alive and my well-being in tact, I'd rather be a "traitor" to my gender than a foolish feminist. And I am a feminist.
This story reminds me of when I was learning how to drive a car. I attended a very well-know driving school in the Bay Area and would up with two VERY CREEPY middle-aged male instructors. One told me about a bachelor party he attended, the other remembered where all his previous female students lived, years after they'd gone to him.
At one point during my instruction, the man who told me about the bachelor party said that since we were so close to his house we could either, a) return the car early and I could go home, or b) we could drop the car off at his house and he would take me home in his truck. Being a smart 16-year old I said I'd rather end the lesson early, and promptly told my parents about the incident when I got home. Get in a strange man's truck, are you kidding?
I've often thought that it would be worthwhile to start a driving school for girls, taught by women. I can't explain how vulnerable I felt while I was trapped in a car with a man I didn't know. There's a reason parents' tell their children never to accept rides from strangers--but adults have somehow decided this rule doesn't apply to them. The simple exchange of money doesn't guarantee your safety and at the end of the day you have to trust your gut.
Talinka — December 8, 2009
Also, in Mexico City during rush hour there's subway cars reserved for women with children (of course the assumption that only women travel with kids is a very frustrating one). This is a result of harrasment and assualt on women from men in the subway are very common instances - and because subways can get ridicously overpacked with people who sometimes even get into fights, I actually got hurt once.
Being in a subway car only with other women was a tremendous relief. I cannot understand why some one would prioritize women's safety beneath some general and non-applied critisism of patriarchy, and most people do seem to value the opportunities to travel in safety. In fact, you on SocImages had a guest post about that very issue, where a xkcd comic were heavily critisised for not acknowledging the lack of safety for American women in the various means of public transportion.
Anonymous — December 8, 2009
You know, I'm female and I guess I understand the discomfort surrounding getting in a car with an unknown male. That said, I feel a lot of the fear and discomfort surrounding taxis is classist and also down to that stupid film Taxi Driver.
My partner drove cab for five years. His company was owned cooperatively and had plenty of female as well as male drivers. Most of these drivers were incredibly progressive and intelligent; most even had bachelor's degrees (usually in the humanities).
And you can rest assured that if there was ever any accusation of assault, that employee would have been summarily fired. What I'm saying is, any reputable cab company does intensive background checks and getting into a cab is no more dangerous than going into a closed room with a male doctor.
Don't let fear rule your life.
anne — December 8, 2009
What worries me is, if a woman gets into an ordinary taxi (maybe she is in a hurry - I'm assuming that regular taxis will probably be more prevalent) when there is the option of a women's taxi service (like the one in Mexico) will the driver (if he is a man) look at it as an invitation to harass assault her? I know that sounds ridiculous at first but it's the same sort of mentality of men catcalling on the streets. They think 'oh, she's dressed nicely so she must be asking for the attention.' Even further is victim-blaming rape victims for 'dressing slutty' or getting drunk. I could see a male driver thinking 'well, she had the opportunity to use the women's service and she didn't, so she's asking for it.'
This also seems potentially problematic for transgendered people, or really even anyone that falls outside of the very black and white restrictions of social gender normatives. Would you have to prove your gender (with a drivers license or other ID) upon entering the vehicle? What if you are an androgynous or more masculine (whatever that means) female?
I do think it is a good idea, but it is certainly flawed. I also don't like how it doesn't really solve the problem of male feelings of entitlement to women's bodies. I worry that it will make them feel like it's acceptable.
nakedthoughts — December 8, 2009
I want to add my voice to defend more radical thinking feminists. yes, it is a symbol of patriarchy and reinforces the gender binary.
HOWEVER, as Hazel said, doing what you need to do to stay safe is good.
even liberal feminists are upset that solutions to rape are always about what the women should do to prevent it. this is problematic. does that mean I should protest by explicitly NOT learning self defense? no. since women are held responsible, it is a reasonable course of action to take if it is available.
so yes. the problem is that we need such a stop gap measure shows how far we still have to go. we need to attack the system not just the symptoms, but of course we should try to mitigate the effect of the symptoms while we do that.
Sarah — December 8, 2009
I've been harassed by taxi drivers enough to LOVE the idea of taxis for women.
But as someone who has spent time in the Middle East, I have to point out that this could create even more negative expectations by contrast for women who don't take the women-only taxis, for any reason (other than being accompanied by a man). When there's a taxi option for good girls, I'd expect that those who are okay with riding in a car alone with men will be assumed to be bad girls.
Jamie — December 8, 2009
Neither situation is liberating -- being forced because of gender to use a segregated taxi system is hardly liberating or representative of freedom. Freedom would be the ability to chose whatever taxi you want without having to consider gender-based rules or the possibility of violence or harassment.
K — December 8, 2009
I thought that when it comes to women, Dubai is fairly liberal. I've never been to Dubai, but I've gotten the impression that it's very common for local women not to wear head scarves, niqab, etc, and that it's acceptable for women to spend time with male non-relatives. I wonder if I'm wrong, or if what the man in the article said applies to the country's socially conservative population.
Brooke — December 9, 2009
My mum and I were actually just discussing how awesome a service like this would be last week. The pink or red just ruins it though, I don't see why they have to be THAT obvious and yes, I find it insulting. But the service itself is a fantastic idea.
Tlönista — December 9, 2009
A couple of taxi-related things that stood out for me, when I briefly lived in London:
- Cab driving was something of an elite profession. Most cab drivers were white and male and resisted opening up the field to "minorities".
- Unlicensed cab drivers sometimes sexually assaulted women. So cabs could sometimes be dangerous.
In context, I can see how women-run cab services could be completely liberating.
Chelsea — December 9, 2009
I think it is a good idea, though I understand the qualms with it. My mom, sister and I were "taken for a ride" in a taxi in Las Vegas this past summer. The driver thought we wouldn't know any better because we were women. We always had a man with us on subsequent rides and that did not happen again.
annon — December 9, 2009
Besides the question of taxies, Dubai still is a dictatorical state, run as a company (the prince/seyk/whatever as CEO, no pretense of demoncracy), where slavery was officially made illegal only in the sixties, but the majority of the population doesn't have a cityzenship, so they are still all too easy to coerce. The kind of place, where if you're a house servant and sue your boss for sexual harassment, _you_ get into jail because having sex with a man who isn't your husband is a sin in sharia law, regardless if you consented... but where noone tries to control the traffic of coerced sex workers, because that would be bad for the economy.
and of course the city center looks nice, because for the poorest it's just ILLEGAL to go there.
multiculturalism is nice, but this doesn't mean that disgusting dictatures are just OK if they are done by non-western people.
my source: http://www.newleftreview.org/?view=2635
if that's what a "wildly modern city" means, then I'm kind of afraid of the future.
Kay — December 9, 2009
I really appreciate the idea of a women friendly taxi service. Pink makes me puke, but I'll sacrifice that for feeling safe. I don't think it's either inherently demeaning nor inherently liberating - it's dependent on context. But really, women _do_ sometimes need protection (from rape, from harassment, etc) and to pretend otherwise is utterly ridiculous. Having to worry about that in one less place (the ride home) seems helpful to me.
Sarah TX — December 9, 2009
I know several women who have been raped by a taxi-driver or hire-car driver, usually when taking one home after having a few drinks. The perfect solution, of course, is a society where rape is rare and prosecutable, but barring that a woman-only taxi service would be a stop-gap (although I dislike that they are painted pink!) Like others have said - nothing is black-or-white, harmful-or-beneficial.
Nique — December 9, 2009
If women in Dubai do not drive (which I read to mean: not allowed to drive), how would there be a taxi service where the women were drivers? Also, when it is said that a woman can't be "alone with a non-relative male", does this mean that a man can't be alone with a non-relative female? Like, if two non-relatives of opposite sex were together, would only the female get in trouble/be doing the wrong thing? I guess my question is, is it a one way street, or does the rule work both ways? The wording makes me think the former, but I'm hoping for the latter because it's the lesser of two evils.
Penny — December 9, 2009
Madison, Wisconsin had a Women's Transit Authority for decades (it closed in 2006 for financial reasons). Not only were all the drivers and passengers women, but so were all the dispatchers, and (at least when I was there in the 1980s) the service was run on a suggested-donation basis (which might explain the financial problems). WTA cars were NOT painted pink. Since it shut down in 2006, some of its services have been replaced by YW Transit, which is run through the YWCA in Madison.
http://www.channel3000.com/news/6001794/detail.html
http://www.ywca.org/site/pp.asp?c=lkJZJdO4F&b=2766997
Lu — December 9, 2009
What counts as a "woman" enough to use these taxis though? What if a transwoman would like to use them, or an androgynous woman who might look male? Would they have to prove their womanhood?
Shannon — December 9, 2009
Have you seen the story in the NYTimes about the female-only commuter trains in India? Having visited India, I can attest to the extremely uncomfortable environment for women there... men surreptitiously took my picture on their cell phones everywhere I went. I can imagine that it would be nice to have an escape from that kind of environment twice a day. The women seem to appreciate the service as well. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/16/world/asia/16ladies.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=women%20commuter%20train&st=cse
John Yum — December 10, 2009
All these comments make me wonder: if I were a taxi driver, am I being victimized by all these points-of-view by women assuming that I would assault them? Is it fair that I am having to bear their negative perceptions because of a fear of something that never happened to them because of me? ... or are they painting all taxi drivers (or male taxi drivers) with the same broad brush?
See... this is where double-standards come in. It is, on the one hand, important to have individuals accountable for their actions and also bad to stereotype a group of people and then act on that stereotype. It is, on the other hand, important to act to preserve your own safety. When these two things come into conflict, many people raise their voices on the side of safety, and I understand that. However, it occasionally appears that the safety concerns are knee-jerk reactions of moving to a situation of segregation or opposition.
What about looking at other measures, such as a ranking system for taxi drivers, like the 5-star system that Ebay uses for its sellers? Why not have men-only cars in trains for those men that don't want to face women or a temptation of doing something stupid in front of a woman (this is in addition to women-only cars)? Why not require that taxi companies hire equal ratios of men and women as drivers across all shifts?
In the end, I am asking why segregation of the sexes is considered a good option in this context when it is not considered good in other contexts. And if do you consider it good in this context, then what about the implicit discrimination against men who don't assault or harass women and don't condone such action, either?
Grizzly — December 10, 2009
I was on a business trip to Mexico City and was told very clearly never to get into one of the green cabs because they are privately owned, and so are not safe for anybody. The establishment of a female only cab company demonstrates the ongoing and pervasive idea in most societies that the safety of men is unimportant.
The other problem I have with the idea, and one that is illustrated by the many comments by women stating that they would feel safe in one of these cabs, is the assumption that women cab drivers are inherently not violent or dangerous. This is simply not true, an yet the dichotomy persists: Men = bad, Women = good.
Hazel Stone — December 11, 2009
I'm getting really sick of these men's rights jackasses. Look,the vast majority of violence, particularly sexual violence is caused by men. So let's not spout a bunch of nonsense about double standards. There's no society wide problem of men living with constant concern about their safety from women. C'mon.
Currence — December 12, 2009
I'm male and I'd prefer to take a taxi driven by a woman for safety reasons. I don't fear male taxi drivers, so I wouldn't expend any real amount of energy trying to satisfy this preference, but it's a preference I have nonetheless. Here, gender, something I otherwise don't care about, is an indirect way to get at something I do care about: propensity for violence. Yeah, it's a shame that 'male' tracks 'violent' so well, but it does and I live accordingly (which is to say: I live statistically), and I don't think that this is objectionable except where so living itself perpetuates a different oppressive discriminatory system that is worse. (So, I would not support a white-driver-only or rich-driver-only company, even if 'white' or 'rich' tracked 'non-violent', because I'm more worried about the negative effects of white/rich privilege.)
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