Asking if the “G-spot” exists can be a bit like asking if God (the other G-spot) exists: It depends on who you ask. And in both cases, science is (thus far) ill equipped to adequately measure either G-spot.
For the women’s G-spot, lack of scientific data is due mostly to a lack of guts or interest in measuring a woman’s vagina while being penetrated (no one has done anything close to this since Kinsey). As a result, tales of the G-spot is to this day are seen by scientists as anecdotal at best.
In an attempt to study to G-spot empirically yet “safely” (given the testy political climate for sex researchers), a group of British researchers decided to investigate the question by …
- Observing women having penetrative sex?
- Asking women to keep detailed sex journals?
- Giving women physical exams looking for variations in vaginal interiors?
- Asking women to test for themselves the area known as a G-spot, and report back to researchers?
- Investigating a possible relationship between women’s level of curiosity and openness to sexual pleasure, and their understanding of their “G-spot”?
No. The researchers simply created a survey and asked a bunch of female twins if they “believed” they had a “so called G-spot.” Guess what they found?
They found that 56 percent of respondents answered “yes” and that there was no genetic correlation (CNN).
To translate: by “genetic correlation” researchers simply mean that identical twins didn’t give the same answer to the question of whether or not they believed in a “so called G-spot.” (Even though this could simply mean that these twins haven’t had exactly the same sexual partners, exactly the same sexual experiences, and exactly the same sexual education).
Let’s put this into context. What if researchers asked instead if subjects “believed” there is a “so called God”? And what if there was not a statistically significant correlation for twins who both believed in God? Would this mean that scientific researchers could conclude that a) God is not real, and b) that God (not a belief in God, but that God) is NOT is genetic? Of course not. The question itself is absurd, as belief systems are not genetically ingrained. They are learned within particular social contexts.
Here’s the point: data about “beliefs” can only be generalized to beliefs and not extended to make absolute truths claims. Despite news headlines now claiming that the “G-spot doesn’t exist,” all this survey tells us is that some women believe in the G-spot, and some don’t. While a sample of identical twins offer researchers the joy of being able to control for biological variation, in my opinion that this study was a waste of the twins’ time.
These are the kind of sexual research methods that drive critical sexuality researchers CRAZY.
Thank “god” there are other sexual researchers who can help us interpret these results. These critical researchers include Debby Herbenick (quoted below in an article from CNN):
The definition of G-spot in the study is too specific and doesn’t take into account that some women perceive their G-spots as bigger or smaller, or higher or lower, said Debby Herbenick, research scientist at Indiana University and author of the book “Because It Feels Good.”
“It’s not so much that it’s a thing that we can see, but it has been pretty widely accepted that many women find it pleasurable, if not orgasmic, to be stimulated on the front wall of the vagina,” said Herbenick, who was not involved in the study.
Thank “god” we also have sex-positive sexual health educators to also help interpret these data, such as the folks at Babeland, a women-owned sex toy store. Babeland bloggers immediately hit upon this story yesterday (they were also interviewed for a local TV news show in their Manhattan location). Babeland blogger Dallas had this to say about the British study:
I have to take serious issue with this research. First, the researchers (or the author of the article) apparently don’t know what the G-spot is. It’s not nerve endings only, but a collection of glands and ducts that surrounds the urethra. Anatomical dissection has already proven that this exists. Defining the G-spot as nerve endings leads me to believe what the research really wanted to know is “do all women experience pleasure from G-spot stimulation?” which is a very different question. Every day when I talk to customers, I have to remind people that everyone is different. What may work for one person won’t work for the next. Thus, I would not be surprised to find that many women didn’t really feel much pleasure when stimulating the G-spot. That’s not the same thing as saying it doesn’t exist.
That said, the researchers relied on women’s self report of whether or not they felt anything. Although I’m all for listening to what women have to say about their bodies, I’ve also talked to hundreds of women about their G-spots and many of them had misunderstood where their G-spot was or how to stimulate it. They were under the impression that their G-spot did nothing for them when in fact, it may have just needed a different touch. Self report can be a terrific way to do research, but in a world where misconceptions about the G-spot abound, it may not accurately reflect women’s G-spot pleasure potential.
I’d love to see a study measuring the changes in G-spot sensations after reading a good book about the G-spot or after attending one of our G-spotworkshops.
Sounds like a perfectly reasoned challenge to me! Scientific G-spot researchers: I encourage you to collaborate with Babeland educators in your next round of investigations.
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Comments 15
Amanda — January 6, 2010
Haha, I like this one.
Garland — January 7, 2010
That study was also the topic of yesterday's xkcd comic ( http://xkcd.com/685/ ). The artist's comment: "The BBC lead was 'The elusive erogenous zone said to exist in some women may be a myth, say researchers who have hunted for it.' I couldn't read it with a straight face."
xkcd comic: http://xkcd.com/685/
BBC's coverage: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/8439000.stm
Burri; Genetic and Environmental Influences on self-reported G-Spots in Women: A Twin Study doi:10.1111/j.1743-6109.2009.01671.x
Kari Lerum — January 7, 2010
Garland, thanks for sharing this hilarious comic!
anna — January 7, 2010
I was definitely shocked by the methodology of this experiment and the fact that it was really, really not done in empirical way. It also assumes that identical DNA will produce identical physical structures, which ignores the fact that conditions in the womb affect development. See, I don't know a lot about biology, but I do know identical twins don't have identical fingerprints and that cloned cats and cattle don't have the same patterns as their "mothers" or "fathers." It would be a lot more interesting if they measured this empirically, knowing the exact anatomical structure they were looking for and comparing twins in that manner. But then, it would be a lot better if these scientists weren't trying to disprove something that quite a lot of people know to exist.
dallas — January 7, 2010
Thanks for linking to us! I'm glad you liked my post - I really enjoyed reading your thoughts as well!
-dallas
abandoning eden — January 7, 2010
Thanks for putting perfectly in words what I felt was wrong with this study. You can't go around asking people if they 'believe' they have a g-spot and then scientifically conclude anything...do you take a survey of people to ask if they 'believe' they have a pancreas and then determine if they do based on the survey results? No, you cut open some dead people and look at their farkin pancreas!
Fortunately, no cutting is required to observe a cervix and a possible g-spot (although as the babeland people point out, that also has been done)- they just have to reproduce some of the original Masters and Johnson research techniques (Which I believe happened after the Kinsey report came out, by the way, as according to wikipedia they did their research on physical human sexual response well into the 1960s, and the Kinsey reports came out in the early 1950s/late 40s).
I'm normally an advocate of survey research (given that I rely on it for my own research), but this is just a completely inappropriate research method to use to explore this topic. Unless the research question was "Do women believe they have a g-spot." In which case, they found that the MAJORITY (albeit a slim majority) did believe they have one, so how they came to their conclusion that it does not exist, I don't understand.
Mike — January 7, 2010
Did you read the original study? Could you link to it?
Kari Lerum — January 7, 2010
Mike, unfortunately I haven't yet read the original study because The Journal of Sexual Medicine (where it's published) is not supported by my library system. Here's the link for the abstract though, which should be accessible regardless of institutional subscription.
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/123232355/abstract
Additionally, it looks like there may be another G-spot study coming soon in this same journal -- this one using more Kinsey-style methods of direct observation: "French researchers Odile Buisson and Pierre Foldès did ultrasounds of a small number of women having intercourse with men. By looking at the changes in the vagina, the researchers found physiological evidence of the G-spot. This study is under review at the Journal of Sexual Medicine..." (http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/01/05/g.spot.sex.women/)
Kari Lerum — January 7, 2010
thanks for the links, Garland!
Miss Werewolf — January 8, 2010
You know, I was kind of relieved when I heard that the g-spot may not exist, as it put a lot of pressure on me to have only vaginal sex or receive only certain types of stimulation. But now that I have read the study, I do believe it is flawed. Oh well, so much for pressure being taken off of me. But why are people using such black and white terminology with anatomy? Why can't some women have a g-spot and some women not have a g-spot? Why aren't people paying attention to the fantastic organ, the clitoris? I think it has to do with people using the G-spot as an excuse to further Freud's theory that women who cannot have vaginal orgasms are undeveloped. Which we of course know is BS. Now, some women probably have g-spots, but not all do, or not all receive pleasure from them.
Clarisse Thorn — January 8, 2010
Thanks for covering this. I was so annoyed when I heard about this study, it blew my mind. So ridiculous.
Sean — January 14, 2010
I read this too and was fairly amazed by the logic. Let's take a relatively less controversial hypothesis such as that most men have penises. Then the likelihood that an identical twin has one is exactly the same as that anyone else has one. There is no fathomable reason why an identical twin would be more likely to report having one if his twin also did so. Thus the lack of any such correlation proves strictly nothing.
At most, the researchers have disproved that there is a genetic factor in whether or not a woman has a G-spot. It remains open whether all women have one or none does. Nonetheless the researchers conclude that reports have no evidential value at all. Some undefined yet presumably high proportion of women will have reported having one, and yet they conclude that it does not exist. If they asked the same question to men about transanal prostate sensitivity, they would get similar results but draw opposite conclusions.
I call this simply misogynistic bias and invite all sisters to be duly outraged by it!