It’s my deep pleasure to introduce Andrea Doucet, who is a guest contributor for Global Mama this month. Andrea is Professor of Sociology at Carleton University in Ottawa, Canada. She is the author of the award-winning book Do Men Mother? and is currently completing research for her book, tentatively titled The Bread and Roses Project: Breadwinning Moms and the New ‘Problem with No Name’. She is delighted to be a contributor to Girl with Pen. (And we are delighted to have her!)
Are Dads Facing Discrimination at the Playground?
Are men being kicked out of playgrounds? Are dads facing playground or playgroup discrimination? These questions, and some answers, were floating on the blogosphere and twitterverse over the last few weeks. It all started with a conversation between three leading and admired voices in parenting – Dad Labs, Free Range Kids’ Lenore Skenazy, and Jeremy Adam Smith’s Daddy Dialectic – on fear and mistrust of men in public spaces.
The pace with which this discussion unfolded would make any slow-moving scholar’s head spin. A newspaper article, then a blog post, a tweet, the creation of an online survey and voilà: the results were up on Daddy Dialectic and on The New York Times Motherload.
I’ve had a 20-year academic and personal interest in male exclusion and surveillance on the landscapes of parenting, so I followed the discussion with great interest. It speaks to an important social dynamic, one that is largely absent from much of the current thinking on (heterosexual) couples working to reverse traditional gender roles.
Yet, as I sat at my desk, watching the words ‘playground discrimination’ and ‘stay at home dads targeted’ tweeting from my computer, something troubled me.
I think the discussion, thus far, overstates the issue of discrimination. It also underplays change over time and the growing acceptance of fathers in community sites. Playground discrimination? With all due respect to those who blogged and tweeted about this, I disagree. Only 3 fathers (4.5%) who filled in the ‘playground discrimination’ survey were asked to leave a playground.
What about the nearly 25% (18 men) who reported being refused entry to a group setting? We need to know more about why, when and where men were refused entry. Was it direct or implied? Was it in an infant group with breast-feeding moms or a group with older children? Was it recent or 10 years ago? Was the father a new or a long-time caregiver? Did the community know him?
As for the 55% of fathers who indicate that their parenting skills are criticized or corrected in a public setting, this does seem to be a recurring problem, especially for fathers of infants. According to the Daddy Dialectic survey and many recent media articles, fathers who are forced into primary caregiving roles during this man-cession, can still face those ‘looks’ and questions from friends, an elderly neighbor, and the ever-present ‘woman at the grocery store’.
I also see positive changes. Looking back 20 years, many stay-at-home dads and single fathers did face serious discrimination as they tried to navigate through, what one of the fathers in my book Do Men Mother? called ‘estrogen filled worlds’. That was long before daddy blogging and the daddy shift. Today, many caregiving men have the support of their breadwinning partners and/or kin networks, access to amazing dads groups, and an overwhelming litany of online and community resources. Like women who enter work fields dominated by the other gender, men are also actively creating their own networks (often through children’s athletic activities) – and their own playgroups.
Mothers, of course, are also targeted with criticism, although in different ways (which Smith also notes). Some of the breadwinning mothers I’ve recently interviewed avoid those same playgroups that are turning some fathers away.
One of the best examples I’ve seen of radical change in daddy discrimination is a Canadian couple I’ve interviewed several times over the last 10 years. When Richard, a former mechanic, started staying home in 2000, he and his wife Aileen told me that “nobody spoke to him in the playgroups”. He kept going. By 2001, he went to three weekly playgroups as well as a library group. He also began caring for a few children in his home. Yet his desire to open his own day care was continually greeted with disapproval and rejection. The reason: he was male.
After four years of patiently waiting, Richard was finally granted a licence to open his daycare. In 2009, he told me: “The praise that I receive from the parents and the agency personnel and mostly the love I feel from the kids, make this the most satisfying job ever”.
Richard also captures the incredible change for men in community settings along with a subtle reminder that full gender parity on this issue remains a formidable challenge:
“Today my daycare is full with 5 kids and I have 8 kids on my waiting list who want to come to my daycare specifically. But I am not accepted by all. Some parents refuse to have a man as childcare provider. And I can respect that. But to many, it is an alternative they favor.”
Playground and playgroup discrimination, where and when it occurs, is undoubtedly an uncomfortable experience. The Daddy Dialectic’s survey was, according to Smith, meant to be a “catalyst for conversation”. I want to add a few questions to this ‘daddy discrimination’ conversation: What key changes are fathers observing on this issue over time in their own communities? What is supporting or inhibiting that change? What challenges remain, where and why? What can mothers, fathers, community organizations, policy activists and feminist scholars do to help facilitate more father-inclusion? Is it reasonable to accept some women-only, as well as men-only, spaces when it comes to caregiving?
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Heather — February 4, 2011
Now that I am becoming more involved in these discussions there seems to be a strong PC factor in acknowledging that men and women are different.
How many times do women let down their guard and then have a man hurt them? Self-defense classes are "generally" about protecting women from men.
That is naturally going transfer to parenting. I would give pause to having a man I did not know change my daughter's diaper.
I really think the man who has the child care center has the right approach to have yeilded to the process and recognized the caution.
It's wonderful to see the men on the playground and being active parents.
Shelley — February 5, 2011
Although I write, teaching is my "day job," and I think one thing all teachers can do is introduce materials at all levels that affirm fatherhood. Obama's Father's Day speech is a good discussion piece at all levels.
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Andrea Doucet — February 12, 2011
Many thanks Shelley and Heather for comments and resources. Look forward to continuing the conversation with you!
Silvertongue62 — February 22, 2011
Heather : "It’s wonderful to see the men on the playground and being active parents."
That I am in agreement on. Well overdue!
William — March 4, 2011
During my time as a stay at home dad/parent/spouse/primary care giver, I have experienced my fair share of negativity and hostility but refuse to allow it to define my entire experience. Beginning this role in Seattle and then continuing in South Florida, I did notice a huge difference in attitude about my role in the family.
Most people recognize Seattle as a much more progressive area of the country than South Florida despite being the Blue region of a Red state. I do believe that different areas of the country are easier than other parts of the country for men to be a stay at home parent/spouse.
I have, however, found the negativity to be pretty interesting in light of the fact that men have been hammered for years, decades for not being involved with their children lives and or being supportive husbands in regards to their wives careers/lives. Yet when men do so, they get it again. It is also interesting to see the lack of appreciation and respect for men who choose to set aside his personal and professional agenda in order to do what was best for the family.
Economic realities being what they are and being that females have gained in the economic arena, it has been insulting to hear some of the attitudes towards stay at home fathers. I have tried to keep these people in a box but without question the negativity wore on me over a period of time.
Despite the negativity I have experienced during periods of time, my time has had a positive impact upon my life and there is research out there that reflects the positive influence of stay at home parents, male and/or female, have on the early childhood development . I know our children have gained from my time in the home. As a result of my willingness to walk away from a career and commit to these roles, our children gained a sense of stability and consistency in the lives and they reflect it in numerous ways.
Presence, consistency, and above all “listening” are what I have centered my approach around. Our children know that of all the people in the world, I am the one who they can come to and speak about anything they want to and will listen to them. Listening to children is more than an auditory skill and involves observing their speech, how they speak, why they are speaking. Listening has more dynamics than simply hearing. Listening to our children has improved all aspects of my life, my own “development” as a person.
There was no handbook for being a stay at home dad or househusband in 2002 when I began and have done my best to be supportive to both the children and my wife, her career, her income, and to the family. Numbers may have increased but those in my roles were far and few between and met none during my time in my area. Although I most def have the luxury of these years which taught me much and would be able to do better if I had to do it over again, I have exercised good faith in my efforts and have no regrets.
As far as those who believe it is their business to lecture dads on their parenting skills, well, it could be that those dads are simply going to have to learn to speak up for themselves when it happens. My children know that not only do I love them unconditionally but know that I am not the type of person to be reprimanded by strangers on a playground or anywhere for that matter.
As far as leading by example, allowing strangers on a playground to make such comments on parenting or allowing them to make them to make them and more importantly their children feel unwelcomed is simply not right. Sets a bad precedence and do not believe that allowing one and their children to be run out of park is a good practice to establish. I have been visited playgrounds, museums, zoos, water parks, and so forth across the country, D.C. to San Fran and have not been run out of one yet and have no intention of allowing myself and more importantly, my children to be run out of anywhere, anyplace, anytime.
Men, Fathers, Husbands, Stay at home dads can’t allow that sort of activity to occur unchallenged. If they are unwilling to stand up to Bully strangers, how are children to be encouraged and taught to stand up to bullies and others who discriminate and judge?
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