The Miley Cyrus performance at the VMAs has received quite the reaction. She appears to have shocked celebs as well as the media, and has even been blasted by a group of angry parents. The Internet outrage over her performance has spawned multiple offshoots, including a backlash against people slut-shaming Miley, as well as criticisms about her appropriation and exploitation of black culture.
What has been largely been missing from the conversation (with a few notable exceptions) is the lack of outrage at the 36-year-old man who ground up on Miley’s 20-year-old ass while singing his summer megahit rape culture anthem.
Far fewer people are expressing concern about the catchy song in which a husband and father outlines with complete confidence his ability to infer when “good girls” “want it.” The same guy who, when discussing the lyrics to his song, tells an interviewer:
Even very good girls have a little bad side. You just have to know how to pull it out of them.
The guy who boasts that he based his hit song on the time-honored masculine performance of hollering at bitches:
We started acting like we were two old men on a porch hollering at girls like, ‘Hey, where you going, girl? Come over here!’ That’s why, in the video, we’re doing all these old men dances. It was great.
That does sound pretty great, Robin.
Overall, the 2013 VMA debacle provides a painfully accurate example of the sexual double standard we have for women and men. A woman who performs sexuality (for whatever reason) is to be castigated, while a man who engages in the exact same performance (and who has unabashedly doubled down on his support for the rape myth that no means yes) hardly raises an eyebrow.
Brett Wheeler is a part-time psychology professor who is pursuing a PhD in positive psychology. His research interests include human sexuality, humor, and how these variables contribute to well-being.
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Lyons — August 29, 2013
I like this parody of Thicke's "rape culture anthem"- sung by women objectifying men...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKfwCjgiodg
Japaniard — August 29, 2013
I think this video highlights what I thought was the more obvious double standard (although it does also touch on the issue of Thicke) of how it's terrible when Miley does this, but pop music is fine with literally every other pop star doing the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zbxM4EehE
Umlud — August 29, 2013
Brett seems to leave out the additional problem of Miley being (still) cast as her Hannah Montana character and expected to act like a role model for children. This was the same problem that Britney Spears had back in the late-1990s/early-2000s and (arguably) Christina Aguilera during the same time.
The problem of the consciously constructed and systematically maintained image of a child celebrity often creates significant problems when that child star becomes an adult, leaves the TV show in which they gained their fame, and now wishes to assert their own persona. To me, I believe that as much harm lies with all the people that continue to expect that an adult human being should remain as the same constructed character that they let their children watch on TV, because it seems that it's these people who can't discern the difference between a fictional character an a human being (who is - often - trying their utmost to shake off any vestiges of that fictional character that they were - often - forced to live as for much of their childhood).
Add to this the problem of slut-shaming. Add to this the problem of race-relations (especially by a Southerner). Add to this the problems of rape culture seemingly rife in a lot of rap music. And add to this the dichotomy of the "prostitute and Madonna," in which
Hannah MontanaMiley Cyrus was expected to continue to act as the Madonna.Mordicai — August 29, 2013
The sexual double standard is one thing; it is the racial undertones (hell, overtones) of Miley's performance that are much more troubling.
pduggie — August 29, 2013
Dang, why can't we have rebellious pop music that flouts conventional morality that everyone can enjoy. You reap what you sow.
pduggie — August 29, 2013
Don't slut shame her. Shame her for participating with Thicke?
Vanessa — August 29, 2013
Both are dull as heck. That's really the bottomline for me.
splicernyc — August 29, 2013
On the contrary, a woman who performs in a sexual manner is to be lauded and encouraged.
The_L1985 — August 29, 2013
Ugh, that's Miley? She actually looks even younger and less mature in that photo than she did as Hannah Montana.
And...I am so fucking glad that I don't watch MTV anymore at all, because everything I've heard about Robert Thicke makes it clear that I want nothing to do with him.
Blake — August 29, 2013
You're better than this. This site is better than this. The issue here is not necessarily one acting in a sexual manner; female pop stars have been doing this for as long as I can remember (Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Mariah Carey, Mandy Moore, Kelly Clarkson, MADONNA..the list goes on) and that's not generally seen as a problem, except for by sociologists and others that recognize the problem with EXPECTING female musicians to act in said manner. The issue was not Miley acting sexual, per say, but gyrating with her tongue sticking out, grabbing her crotch and sliding a foam finger along Robin Thicke's penis (can you even READ that sentence without seeing the ludicrous nature of the fact that this stuff all actually happened?).
As far as Robin Thicke goes, there's another issue that's brought up. Is the song "kind of rapey"? Possibly, though only when you decide to follow that path. To me, it is lyrically just like a really sleazy guy trying to pick up a girl at bar (and likely would fail horribly). Is it misogynistic? Absolutely it is. But, realistically, can we hold up works of art and judge them on moral criteria? Is a film only good if you agree with the point it's making? Can a novel never be written through the eyes of a misogynist character? A serial killer? A cannibal? A work of art should be under no obligation to be happy and ethical for people to like or appreciate it. Going on to say "hey, this song is bad for the world because it's rapey" is like saying "A Clockwork Orange is a terrible book because Alex is a violent rapist and murderer." That's kind of the whole charm of the "hey, it's totally not real" aspect of it.
That being said, the song still sucks.
aresniccc — August 29, 2013
Oh my god thank you. I have been saying this same thing since I heard about the performance. People looked at me like I was crazy for saying "Well, why isn't Robin Thicke a d-bag too? Lets break this down." "But.. but he was clothed!"
Rage ensues.
Thank you for voicing this.
Wg — August 29, 2013
I thought Thicke did a fine job on Growing Pains.
Patrick — August 29, 2013
"36-year-old man who ground up on Miley’s 20-year-old ass..."
This. Why this? Or were you pointing out that they're both adults?
DailyConversions.com — August 29, 2013
Was it really a surprise? Doesn't the VMA awards have a history of outrageous performances? Madonna, Britney, Lady Gaga, now Miley is just the latest in the line of acts meant to shock us and get us talking about them. Your observation on Thicke was spot-on. If you were Will Smith, would you have put your kids front row, center stage to hear those lyrics even without Miley?
Tusconian — August 29, 2013
This is why I found myself defending Miley despite the fact that the performance was bad and she has a serious cultural appropriation problem. I don't think people are picking on her because they genuinely care about racial appropriation or sexualization on TV or girls not "respecting themselves." They're picking on her because she's an easy target, but it feels cheap to say something like "wow, Miley Cyrus' costume at the VMAs was ugly and she was clearly drunk." Because that doesn't generate controversy. And she's an easy target because she's a young woman in a society that DETESTS young women and teen girls who step one toe out of line. She all but grew up in the spotlight and has been going "off the rails" for years now, and people have been on the edge of their seats waiting, because that's what society does to famous young women. They want to see famous young women fail. I'd say the average "hater" (I don't even know if there's a word for someone who immerses themself in pop culture specifically to degrade it) probably dislikes Justin Bieber's behavior and music much more than Cyrus', but I see way fewer people practically exploding in glee at the idea that he may one day be in rehab. They simply mock him, or express a desire for him to no longer exist. But people really want Miley Cyrus to fail.
Why I say she's an "easy target" is not only that people want her to fail, but they also call her out for the same things they praise others for, particularly older men. She's sexually provocative, as if Robin Thicke wasn't there with her (like you said). Lady GaGa had just gotten off the stage wearing a seashell bra and g-string, and based most of her career on not wearing pants. Miley Cyrus has a cultural appropriation problem, but many of the same people complaining about that will hail Macklemore, King Of Appropriation And Also Bad Music. Robin Thicke profits very heavily off of black dominated, black created music, and generally comes off to me as the type of white guy who feels juuuuuuust a little too comfortable with his black friends and ends up thinking he has "n-word privileges" (note that I really love Robin Thicke's music, and I don't think he has ever thrown around slurs. The "n-word privileges" comment refers to some comments he's made that seem overly congratulatory and off-color at the same time). And none of this is to say that Miley Cyrus shouldn't be called out, but I just find it really questionable when Miley Cyrus is attacked on every news outlet on the internet (while we're preparing for a WAR people) for the same thing that older men and designated socially acceptable women are doing. Either cultural appropriation is bad, or it's not. It's not bad for Miley Cyrus but okay for everyone else. Either over the top sexuality is bad, or it's not. It's not bad for Miley Cyrus but okay for everyone else. (My two cents, cultural appropriation is bad, and different from cultural appreciation or adaptation, and there's nothing wrong with sexual overtness in the media.) And since there are so many easy things to throw at Miley Cyrus' performance (it was weird, she's bad at twerking, she was pretty obviously drunk), I don't see why these double standard accusations are being thrown at her anyway.
jerf — August 30, 2013
brett, you sound like a bitch
Gman E. Willikers — August 30, 2013
We keep focusing on just one side of the question when we ask: Why are women held to a higher standard? It's an interesting question (although the answer in the subject case seems transparently obvious: Miley Cyrus is a Disney child star who still has loads of impressionable young men and women who follow her). This misses the important question: Why are men now held to such a low standard?
Many have observed the inherent bigotry in the fact that white Americans accept twerking if it is performed by African Americans but go bonkers if it's a "white girl" who is doing it. The assumption, valid I think, is that far too many just expect that sort of "animalistic" behavior from dark skinned people--a clearly bigoted point of view. So why do we now just accept this sort of public performance when the performer is a male?
There have always been different expectations for men and women, and we can argue about whether men and women really are different in ways that support those different expectations or which among them are inherently discriminatory; however, even when men were believed to be naturally more base creatures, in the past society did not just look the other way to permit males to make public displays that were debasing. I think the question of why we now accept this sort of public display is truly the more serious and troubling question.
mimimur — August 30, 2013
I have to say, racial issues aside (and they're big issues from what I've read), Miley's performance is a lot *better* than your run of the mill sexy performances, because it is on her terms. She's not being the sultry seductress in this performance, she's a horny teenager. She's agressive, she doesn't take it seriously, and she mixes some rather odd elements into the performance to reflect she she wants to be seen as as a person, not just a glossy surface. The fact that people get riled up about that particular part is a good sign, not a bad one.
Hellriser99 — August 31, 2013
Yes but if you go back to the vid, Miley is the one doing everything he is just standinf there singing. Yes I agree that he should have moved out of the way but it wont justify Miley's behavior.
Jemma — September 2, 2013
http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/music/9116021/Law-students-Blurred-Lines-too-hot-for-YouTube I think you will all be interested in this. The retort to Robin Thicke's 'Blurred Lines' is taken off YouTube for its provocative content and unsetting nature... Double standards. Link to the video here (original has been removed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2M6JUFCCSA
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Low Frost — September 18, 2013
I actually watched this, albeit inadvertently.
What amused me the most, something I think a lot of people missed, is that Thicke CLEARLY WAS NOT COMFORTABLE WITH WHAT WAS GOING ON.
The entire nature of his body language thundered "I didn't sign up for this!" the moment Cyrus began to touch him. He, however, could not push her away or walk away from her, because he was obligated to go on with the performance. If you listen to the audio, you can actually hear him sigh when Cyrus walks away from him to join the backup dancers.
I am no great fan of Robin Thicke, but I do feel a mote of pity for him because he was clearly not informed what would happen, clearly did NOT want to be a part of it, and the obligations of show business demanded he at least pretend to enjoy it every bit as much as the back up dancers in his ow infamous video. For the people demanding that Thicke take responsibility for what happened, I ask if you actually saw the performance live and unedited? Did you not see him recoil away from Miley Cyrus when she began to grind against him? Would you expect him to go to interviews loudly proclaiming how he felt uncomfortable with the show, knowing full well those kinds of words tend to strike back in the wallet and make enemies within the business? Or even if he did, would be taken seriously and at face value, being an older man who had just made a extremely provocative video, rather than being laughed at outright?
Anon — September 18, 2013
It's music.
Don't pay attention to it if you don't like it.
Stop focusing on it like it's a political issue that's effecting the world like a goddamn war.
Ignore it. Please. For the love of god.
You guys have nothing better to do than criticize one male musician(While still liking Eminem, who raps about raping twins and lighting his girlfriend on fire).
It's an offensive song. I get it.
But so is Sweet Home Alabama (It's directly attacking Neil Young's songs that are against slavery, if you didn't know).
So why is this one SUCH a huge deal, but not other ones?
It's because you people care way too much about pop culture.
You're being brainwashed.
This is what they WANT you to do. They want you to care about it and get worked up over it.
If you want it to go away, stop writing articles about it. Stop blogging about it. Seriously.
Liz Hill — September 18, 2013
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3twwafch4g The best Blurred Lines parody. Robin is not unscathed. hehehh
Willie Lipsey — September 19, 2013
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MT — September 19, 2013
You're not wrong but I take some satisfaction in that when I heard the song, I got the impression that the guy gets no where with the girl. He's kind of begging her and she's just not having it.
dragonfish — September 19, 2013
My only problem with the whole thing was her tongue. Not because it was offensive, but because it looked ridiculous. Stick her tongue back in & embrace normal facial expressions & we've got something no more or less anything than any other pop performance.
Philip — September 19, 2013
Everyone needs to chill the fuck out with all of this Miley Cyrus outrage. Don't you see that her intention is to provoke? Her image is purposely offensive, as she has turned herself into the personification of all things seemingly 'taboo' in today's society - party drugs ("we like to party, dancing with Molly"), sexual connotations in her lyrics, 'slutty' clothing, and provocative dancing. Elvis Presley received the exact same hateful reaction when he first started moving his hips, because people were "offended". Shut the fuck up. You go to any high school or college party these days and girls dress exactly like this, everyone smokes weed, snorts coke, binge drinks, and that's been a reality (at least) since as far back as the 60's (think Edie Sedgewick, The Beatles etc). It's that "young and reckless" factor, embrace it! I think she's brave, because she is taking all the hush-hush nuances in our culture and spitting it back in our faces.
Ace — September 20, 2013
What a sad, sad state we have reached. Can you say Soddam and Gomora (sp?). We let children watch tripe and slutish behavior from an early age and wonder why they do what Miley did. Thicke is a mature man doing exactly what Emmanem (sp?) and ex-con Snoop Dog and the rest do - treat women like bitches and ho's. And the young girls in the audiance jump up and cheer this crap. And mom and dad let these teens go to these shows and buy the cd's with lyrics that would ake a prison inmate blush. And grown adults with chifren who run television show men grabbing their crotch and women 7/8th naked singing about drugs, groups sex or whatever and we wonder why our kids our generally messed up, bullying, sexting, smoking dope, using heroin, ecstasy or whatever including huffing glue. And meantime our entire elected officials in Washington DC are putting the kids into hoc so bad they'll never have the life we have. Part-time jobs, no insurance except the screwed up mess called Obamadon'tcare. Oh well, Putin or Assad would know how to handle Thicke and Miley and the way we're going, they'll soon get their chance when China call our financial hand and owns us!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your Slut Shamed Ex. — September 21, 2013
"Overall, the 2013 VMA debacle provides a painfully accurate example of the sexual double standard we have for women and men. A woman who performs sexuality (for whatever reason) is to be castigated, while a man who engages in the exact same performance (and who has unabashedly doubled down on his support for the rape myth that no means yes) hardly raises an eyebrow." Is this why you spent our entire relationship making me feel bad for the choices of my sexual past? Why is it that you can clearly understand and articulate this concept academically but not apply it to your personal life. I wasn't searching for this article, I was just reading about Miley and all the hoopla surrounding the VMAs, when I stubbled across this article. Imagine my surprise to see your name in the byline and know that even though you espouse gender equality academically, you are incapable of applying this to your personal life. I will admit that I tried to post this response once already, but I didn't see it come through. I thought about dropping it and moving on, but your hypocrisy needs highlighting. Yes, I agree there was a double standard in the entire VMA/Robin Thicke/Miley Cyrus hoopla, but its no worse than the double standard you apply in your own life.
Johnny Ralph Horstman — September 24, 2013
"The way you grab me"
You are deliberately ignoring that lyric. That says that the woman INITIATED the sexual encounter.
Ariana Morris — September 25, 2013
I have an explanation.
Who the heck is Robin Thicke? No, seriously, i never heard of him before this whole thing.
But Miley Cyrus? she's been every which way you look in every store you go into with all the insane Hanna Montana merchandise, for many years now.
So, gee, why are we surprised she's getting more attention?
Yeah, he seems like scum to me.
binksays — September 25, 2013
so friggen sick of people complaining about blurred lines...or this at all
http://polemiqueoccasionelle.wordpress.com/2013/09/19/blurring-the-lines-of-feminism-a-criticism-of-the-criticism-of-blurred-lines/
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