Sorry for the spoiler! The gaze in the Wacoal commercial below, sent in by Kathe L., dances all over the body of a lovely young woman, focusing especially on the curve of her breast alongside the lace of her bra. She slowly removes her make-up and disrobes, only to reveal a male body underneath. The message? A push-up bra so good it can even give men breasts.
I wonder what y’all think. Does this queer the body? Is there a transgressive identity behind the gaze? Or is it just more gimmicky advertising based on normative expectations? Both?
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
Comments 36
oddboyout — August 10, 2013
While it is a Japanese company, this commercial was made for the Thai market. That leads me to believe they're marketing to Kathoey.
FdL — August 10, 2013
Kathoey have double roles in Thai society. Either funny/cute/entertaining, or otherwise the most negative way as "contranatural" gays. This commercial uses the first role of gay men in Thailand... Crossdressers and/or transgender in Thailand are common. I don't think general Thai society would be offended, but to say this commercial promotes transgender and/or crossdressers, would be talking it a step too far (although, it does implicitly), since even it is positively discriminating (role n°1), because it still patronizes the social phenomenon.
Umlud — August 10, 2013
Perhaps an interesting question is to see how the above commercial contrasts with the gender-bending Toyota commercial that Lisa posted last September.
Both involve products that are associated with sexual allure.
Both involve a male actor in women's clothing.
Both are commercials for non-American audiences.
Morgan — August 10, 2013
Does the conversation have to be so male/female as that? I think there's a lot of trans stuff that gets erased in that discourse - I found it more interesting as highlighting the performance of "female" and demonstrating how conventional attractiveness can be put on and taken off... just so long as its purchased.
B — August 10, 2013
the male body? really? are we still talking like that? is this the 80s? have I stepped into an alternate timeline where judith butler wasn't born? You don't know whether that's a male body, or a female body, because you didn't ask the person portrayed. Maleness is something YOU are inscribing on that person. The ad is showing, quite effectively, that the bras work on people without breasts, who may be of any gender assignment or identity.
JJ — August 10, 2013
This ad highlights how gender has become a consumer product.
Hjalmar — August 10, 2013
This is not a case of "normative expectations" because there is not any of two type of "programs". Neither purposeful (Zwekrationalität) nor consequential (if/then). On the other hand, as the example is perhaps involving "Kathoey" culture, segmentary stratification would imply either reciprocity (and in this case it is absent) or "potlatch". This case fits better in the last type. As much of the commentaries, I also agree that it is not an example of gender, but "potlatch," or even better "Weltangshauung".
holdmewhileimnaked — August 10, 2013
all of it. whats normative is in transition. this is a nearly early envoy into the new normalcy; also a late last stab at titillation through transgression. what is defined as transgressive is changing. sooner rather than later, whatever iconoclasm still exists will become a much more subtle read than simple externals—an understated alteration which has potential to be both good & bad.
good because by eliminating discrimination by visual, people who wish to be a member of the mainstream will be able to realize this ambition, more or less, no matter who they are [or, at least, how they appear, at least genderwise, to others]. bad because this sort of abundance of universal acceptance causes subcultures to disintegrate [cf the deaf community's response to cochlear implants, for a fine & contemporary example].
we used to call a similar process co-optation & it was despised. this is something of the inverse of that—less a mess of invading hordes & more a folding of new ingredients into the batter before it gets dumped in the melting pot. perhaps, since this is an insistence that the mainstream accepts its dwellers on the outer banks on their own terms, it will be a good development. in the past the loss of community overarchingly overwhelmed any potential benefits but, again, since the current approach arrives from the opposite side there is, at least, the possible possibility of, perhaps, a bit of positive to be gained.
mimimur — August 11, 2013
Dunno, I get a sense that they question her authenticity here. For most of the video, she's treated as an object, the camera mostly focuses on the body, nd when we actually see the face, it's mostly settled into a passive smile. It's only when the character shifts into a male identity/performance that he expresses something that challenges the viewer and gives some hint to his personality. Overall it gives the impression that he is supposed to be more real than she is, and I think that goes a long way towards framing this video in a normative way, rather than a subversive way.
Norm_norman — August 11, 2013
"Does this queer the body?"
What does this even mean?
There is nothing transgressive about this. The culture sexualises and commodifies female secondary sex characteristics (female is not an identity category and sex is not an identity, pomo-fans) in order to restrict and control the behavioural patterns of females, imposing a sex-caste/gender category of 'woman' onto them which they are obligated to perform or be rendered invisible.
The advert attempts to give the impression of those secondary sex characteristics on a male who does not possess them, eroticising and commodifying the impression of them again in the process. It then reveals that they are not present, and its entire gambit/message is revealed; if your breasts do not look like the constructed, eroticised, commodified 'norm', you are invited to purchase this commodity in order to make them conform better to how you 'should look'.
The idea that this is transgressive at all is ludicrous. It is the same gender prescription (woman) applied to the same sex class (females) in the same way for the same effect (control, unbalancing, negging, disempowerment, body shaming/policing). That a male is involved in this propaganda from in front of the camera instead of just behind it as per usual is the only novel thing, and the reveal is part of the sales pitch and the overall message; if males can do 'woman' better than females, you females are definitely doing something wrong and need these sorts of products to facilitate your forcible and terrorism-based conformity into the woman category.
Rachel Kantstopdaphunk — August 12, 2013
I found it rather heteronormative actually. I'd also avoid gendering the bodies if people of undetermined gender.
analog2000 — August 13, 2013
I am not trying to dismiss all of the other comments here. But I think the most important point is that this (like the Toyota commercial mentioned above) is NOT designed for an American or even a western audience. This is meant to be shown in Thailand. I know almost nothing about Thai culture or how gender is perceived there. That makes almost all of the analysis here irrelevant. All this would be interesting if this was playing in the US, but it isn't.
Guest — September 11, 2013
why is the tag "japan" and not thailand? :/
SkaMP — September 20, 2013
This is actually really good advertising, it shows how good the bra works.
That's all I see here, advertisement just like any other advertisement.