@bfwriter tweeted us a link to a college design student’s photograph that has gone viral. Rosea Lake posted the image to her tumblr and it struck a chord.
What I like about the image is the way it very clearly illustrates two things. First, it reveals that doing femininity doesn’t mean obeying a single, simple rule. Instead, it’s about occupying and traveling within a certain space. In this case, usually between “proper” and “flirty.” Women have to constantly figure out where in that space they’re supposed to be. Too flirty at work mean’s you won’t be taken seriously; too proper at the bar and you’re invisible. Under the right circumstances (e.g., Halloween, a funeral), you can do “cheeky” or “old fashioned.”
The second thing I like about this image is the way it shows that there is a significant price to pay for getting it wrong. It’s not just a faux pas. Once you’re “‘asking for it,” you could be a target. And, once you’re reached “prudish,” you’ve become socially irrelevant. Both violence and social marginalization are serious consequences.
And, of course, all women are going to get it wrong sometimes because the boundaries are moving targets and in the eye of the beholder. What’s cheeky in one setting or to one person is flirty in or to another. So women constantly risk getting it wrong, or getting it wrong to someone. So the consequences are always floating out there, worrying us, and sending us to the mall.
Indeed, this is why women have so many clothes! We need an all-purpose black skirt that does old fashioned, another one to do proper, and a third to do flirty… at the very least… and all in casual, business, and formal. And we need heels to go with each (stilettos = provocative, high heels = flirty, low heels = proper, etc, plus we need flats for the picnics and beach weddings etc). And we need pants that are hemmed to the right length for each of these pairs of shoes. You can’t wear black shoes with navy pants, so you’ll need to double up on all these things if you want any variety in your wardrobe. I could go on, but you get the picture.
Women’s closets are often mocked as a form of self-indulgence, shop-a-holicism, or narcissism. But this isn’t fair. Instead, if a woman is class-privileged enough, they reflect an (often unarticulated) understanding of just how complicated the rules are. If they’re not class-privileged enough, they can’t follow the rules and are punished for being, for example, “trashy” or “unprofessional.” It’s a difficult job that we impose on women and we’re all too often damned-if-we-do and damned-if-we-don’t.
Cross-posted at Business Insider and The Huffington Post.
Lisa Wade, PhD is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of American Hookup, a book about college sexual culture; a textbook about gender; and a forthcoming introductory text: Terrible Magnificent Sociology. You can follow her on Twitter and Instagram.
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Anna — January 22, 2013
The idea that you can't wear black with navy went "out of fashion" decades ago. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of why this article is a fashion analysis fail. At its best, the analysis relating to privilege and appropriate wear for various occasions totally fails to reflect on the fact that these restrictions and rules pertain just as strongly - and in some cases even more strongly - to men.
At its worst, the analysis is a self-righteous attack on people who actually appreciate the aesthetics of style (and proportion/silhouette issues that go with it), and with regard to women, a thinly veiled attack on wearing skirts/dresses and high heels, but from the hypocritical perspective of "Oh, but I'm on your side." And to reference a fashion-obsessed movie, the student's photograph is quite clueless in its fashion essentialism.
Allison Ehrich Bernstein — January 22, 2013
I think this is one of the best pieces I've read on this blog in several years of reading it--really spot-on, concise analysis of that unarticulated understanding.
TK — January 22, 2013
One glaring omission (in a great piece): If you try to play by the boys' rules and wear a plain pantsuit, you get pegged as mannish and, clearly, a lesbian. Rarely do I see all of this play out as 'well' as it does in politics. Too matronly, too provocative, too dykey, asking for attention, trying to act like a man– HIllary Clinton's been accused of it all.
Jean — January 22, 2013
And then this idea was ripped off for an ad so fast it makes my head spin: http://thelingerieaddict.tumblr.com/post/41136294511/i-cannot-believe-curvy-kates-audacity-to-outright
They removed the "whore," "slut," "asking for it," and "matronly" labels - removing all of the biting social commentary and leaving only the "look how many skirts you need!" aspect (which I feel was not an important part of the original artwork).
Interrobang — January 22, 2013
And here I thought I had a ton of clothes because I need clothing that will do for temperatures ranging from -20C to over +30C. Silly me, dressing to suit the (current) -27 wind chill rather than the dictates of society...
mimimur — January 22, 2013
Another thing to admire about the picture is how it shows the absurd margins between the different verdicts: Provocative is only an inch or two from Asking for it, and that in turn is followed by Slut and Whore with the same spacing between each. Flirty and Proper has no visible difference at all when looking at the actual skirt in practise, and the aforementioned Provocative to Whore is lined up in a space that is about that lengh. What does that tell us?
Vee — January 22, 2013
Too true. When I go to events with my husband and I ask him what I should wear, he always tells me that he is wearing a suit. Which leaves me wondering which of several options I should wear. Women's clothing for better or worse seems to have more distinctions.
Kazoo — January 22, 2013
Yes, so true, but I don't think this is the only reason for the variety of womens' clothes. We seem to think of mens' comparatively desexualized, utilitarian (boring?) clothing as the baseline in Western culture. From that standpoint womens' dress looks like ridiculous frippery. But so often, when you visit another culture, you find that mens' dress is just as colorful, seductive and complicated as womens'. So I think it's weird that western heterosexual men, for the most part, don't adorn themselves and 'speak' through their clothes - or do so very quietly. Though I still agree that the rules about what we say with our clothes as women are deeply constraining.
Farwah Rizvi — January 22, 2013
well, i am a muslim women and I have to dress conservatively all the time. That means pants, and full or 3/4 sleeves. I don't wear the hijab but my parents still insist I dress this way. Maybe if I didn't live with them I would dress how I want, and I wouldn't necessarily respect their wishes. I don't have to deal with these types of labels because of the way I dress. I never wear skirts or shorts, but I can understand how confusing it can be for other women because of these labels. My mom actually thinks that any muslim girl who dresses in a a 'westernized fashion' is vulgar or bad. Thats how backwards she is. Ironically non muslim girls get a pass because it is 'a part of their culture' or something. I think that freedom of dress is a great thing, but I also see how it creates conflict. Just like showing your ankles was 'inappropriate' or 'slutty' in the victorian era.
Diane Moffatt — January 22, 2013
All those "standards" and yet the same legs.
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JEG — January 22, 2013
this is silly and misleading.
Leslee Bottomley Beldotti — January 22, 2013
This is a sincere - not rhetorical - question:
What would someone who identifies as a heterosexual male WEAR to work to indicate to hetero women that he was promiscuous or sexually available?
I can't think of anything other than perhaps a t-shirt with an inappropriate statement on it, or perhaps wearing his shirt unbuttoned too far.
Thoughts?
AnonAnon — January 22, 2013
Let's dust off the old logical proofs...
1. Clothing is or can be a form of expression like speech.
- ex: A "Yes We Can" shirt can be, and is often intended to be, a show of support for our president.
2. The originator of a message necessarily cannot determine how a recipient interprets a form of expression.
- ex: Someone seeing the "Yes We Can" shirt assumes the wearer is in favor of President Obama's policies (including, say, drone strikes).
3. There is no way for a listener to determine whether any expression was intended at all.
- ex: The guy with the shirt just liked the colors and cares nothing for politics.
4. Wildly divergent worldviews may be equally valid.
- ex: The guy with the shirt is basically apolitical, but the observer who saw the shirt opposes President Obama mostly because he is opposed to the current drone strike policy.
5. Despite differing worldviews, people can be expected to understand at least some of the implications of what they express.
- ex: The observer believes President Obama is a sufficiently famous figure that others would recognize the implications of such a shirt.
6. In the absence of perfect information, we must draw on our own life experiences to interpret and act on the constant stream of subtle and overt communications from those around us.
- ex: The observer cannot recall seeing anyone in a "Yes We Can" shirt who is not an exuberant Obama supporter, so he chooses to keep quiet about his opinion on the matter of drone strikes for fear of offending. Unbeknownst to him, the guy with the shirt would not be at all offended by that opinion.
Therefore...
- How a woman is dressed will quite naturally and necessarily have the consequence of sending messages to men. While each man's response will vary, they will tend to fall into a predictable range. These responses, and their resulting judgments, may be completely valid if for no other reason than the shared understanding by women of what messages are sent - i.e., women know a super-short skirt sends sexual signals, and the interpretation that she intends to send such a message remains valid and rational even if it is factually untrue. It is unreasonable to expect men to sort out which messages are intentional and/or factually accurate from those which are not. The most that can rationally be expected of men is that they amend their opinion of the girl if/when they receive new information.
Memento Mary — January 22, 2013
Wonderful infographic. I myself have been horrified at the way reactions to my clothing change when I don't realize that a short skirt has been riding up when I've been running to catch a bus, or that a shirt that seemed opaque when I left the house is semi-translucent in extremely bright sunlight.
Shannon W. — January 22, 2013
Great post - eye opening and thought provocative even to those who are immersed in such topics.
Susan — January 22, 2013
I agree with this, except I didn't know you can't wear black and navy together. Seriously?! I feel tone deaf to the secret rules.
Calvin Forbes — January 22, 2013
I agree with the piece, however this doesn't mean that much of this fashion culture ISN'T shallow. If the actions themselves are shallow, then valid reasons for those actions don't take away the fact that those actions happened. It's possible to think of many examples where, in general, men are acting in a pathologically shallow manner. I'm not trying to speak against a "feminist" perspective or blame the victim; I just think that being oppressed (in this case women) doesn't relieve us at looking back at the actions of the victims themselves. In other words, I would agree with the sociological analysis presented here, but I don't think we should accept or condone shallow behavior like that, male or female. (whatever that shallow behavior may be is up for interpretation of course)
Moxyjane — January 22, 2013
Stop imposing. Just. stop.
Amanda Michele — January 22, 2013
This may be naive, but I enjoy having clothing that portrays different images because I like to be totally in control of the way I am perceived. I like wearing very conservative clothing for work to be taken seriously, and wearing fun sparkley things on the weekends to see my friends. I think there is something fantastic about the power of the right outfit to transform your mood and the image you project and even state of mind. I love pantsuits and blouses just as much as I love high heels, hair extensions and short skirts. I dont thin kthat is the balancing act of being female, as much as it is the joy getting to be a woman!
JackieS — January 22, 2013
I used to work in an office in which the staff was comprised by a vast majority of women. The VP of our department, a woman, told a coordinator, another woman, that she "dressed like a whore." First, it was inappropriate. Second, it was rude. Third, it was not even true. She never wore short skirts. She never wore revealing blouses. She didn't even often wear heels. This coordinator simply had a hip to waist ratio that was Kardashian. There was NO amount of fabric that could camouflage that and it was unfair to make her feel bad about it and even worse, to impede her career advancement.
Classy Lady — January 22, 2013
I recently made an appearance as an expert commentator on The Ricky Lake Show and all the other guests and producers called my dress (which hit below the knee) "retro" which I thought was funny because the dress was from this year's Victoria's Secret collection, but they thought it was "vintage" because they were all dressed like porn stars in short skirts, low cut tops and stiletto heels, lol.
Mcmom08 — January 22, 2013
And you forgot what happens when you insert the weight fluctuations that can range from mild monthly bloating to "fat pants".
Erin — January 22, 2013
This is silly. We don't HAVE to do anything, we don't need to dress slutty or flirty to go out, we CHOOSE to and then call ourselves victims.
TSF — January 23, 2013
Great article. But the photo is tickling my OCD. All of the words are adjectives, describing her, besides "prudism."
Vx — January 23, 2013
David Mitchell has some thoughts on this:
"The cosmetic and sartorial yolk under which [women] labor is terrifying..." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66c7el1E11o
Christina — January 23, 2013
This article is disgusting. I'll wear what I like; Whether it be a flowing skirt down to my ankles or something in the range of 'asking for it'. It's all in how you present yourself. Honestly, I've gotten more attention (because I AM CONFIDENT IN WHAT I AM IN) in flowing skirts as opposed to something shorter. From personal experience, men prefer women who know themselves and how to present themselves in any given circumstance, not someone who desperately tries so hard to adhere to a set of rules so as to omit any 'fashion faux pas' that they, in result, are snooty, stuck up bitches. How' about we try to be ourselves instead of following some maniacally insecure snot's lead?
mofomeat — January 23, 2013
Decent article, but please learn proper apostrophe usage.
Stef — January 23, 2013
Women do have more clothing rules to follow than men, but the image and the phrase "Once you’re ‘asking for it,’ you could be a target" suggest that women can control how people react to them sexually by choosing a particular outfit. That's not true. Skirt length might sometimes make a difference in how/how much a woman gets hit on, but any woman is at risk of being called any of those adjectives (or multiple contradictory ones at the same time) in any outfit, and any woman can be a target in any outfit.
I hope someone is also analyzing the image in terms of conventional attractiveness and age. An old, fat, or unattractive person wearing a skirt in the "flirty" length is unlikely to be characterized in a positive manner.
Jo Mcrae — January 23, 2013
The constant pressure to conform can also be very stressful, with the double standards created by needing to be an individual to be successful. Princess Diana is the most extreme example.
Anne47 — January 23, 2013
that´s such a great explanation of why we have so many clothes.. till now i never understood why i have so many clothes and why i bring so much everywhere i go.. now i understand, and it makes so much sense.. congratulations, this is excellent..
vivian — January 23, 2013
Some women just have to stop playing victims and learn to use her sexuality or the suppression of it as a tool. If you are going somewhere sexy dress sexy; to a meeting with older people dress conservatively but not necessarily prudish as you well know you can add accessories and style your hair to create an edgier look. So what if a few men mock our cloth of a form of self indulgence? For every of such mockery there are a thousand men dropping tons of money on their wives' clothing. Let's just be happy and stopping whining.
ThomasVeil — January 23, 2013
So why then do many woman love buying clothing?
By all means, if your description is fully right, then it should be frustrating. And that one simple style would be preferred.
And are you saying that man's clothing does send no social clues?
I kinda see how a short post is easier to write, than a proper analysis of the complex subject. But then please at least hint at that what you're writing is a mere fraction of the truth - and may only apply to some woman or in fact it might also apply to some degree to men.
Considering that, I think it has a good point.
Elizabeth Shaw — January 23, 2013
All of this, while enlightening, and slightly disheartening, makes me so very grateful to live in Vermont. Jeans and a sweater, every single day. When it's warm. Jeans and a T-shirt will do. Dress up with a stylish fitted T or down with baggy T. Shoes generally need to be sturdy and flat because you never know when you'll need to walk in a field or in the woods or take a hike. Warm and waterproof is pertinent. If you need to dress up, iron your jeans and put on clogs and maybe a longer sweater. I'm wondering what the adjective on my leg would be? Strong and adaptable, maybe.
Trhart — January 23, 2013
I've come to find Western 3rd Wave Feminism's only concern is with sex and clothes. It's pitiful.
Gman E Willikers — January 23, 2013
Can men wear anything sexy or provocative without being placed in either one of only two categories: 1) Gay; or 2) Aggressive predator?
Karen Summers — January 23, 2013
This is why fashion and shopping for clothes makes me want to scream (and that not even getting into difficulties faced by shoppers who aren't the 'right' size. It's hard to find professional clothes when you're only 4' 9'' for example).
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maco — January 23, 2013
What about the part cut off from the bottom of the picture? What comes below "matronly"? I love having my skirts float just above the ground, skimming it when the terrain shifts (though black or brown skirts are a better idea than white ones in this case). I want to label floor-length as "fae" because of how long flowing dresses are so frequently shown on fairies.
maco — January 23, 2013
You could say the idea that different situations require different clothing is ITSELF born of vanity. In 1930, the average American woman owned 9 dresses for her entire wardrobe. How many of those were about different situations versus the spacing of laundry days? I suspect strongly it was the latter. All clothing was supposed to be practical for any occasion. Sure, it wears out over time, but the degree of wear, not the length, determined its appropriateness for given activities (most recently sewn dress for a wedding, oldest for painting the house).
This makes sense to me. I normally wear an ankle length black skirt or a tea-length brown skirt. They're each at least a decade old. They're also being retired just as soon as I get around to sewing replacements, because the fabric's getting pretty thin and starting to sprout holes, I need to take them in anyway (not as big as I once was), and I got white paint on them this weekend. Acrylic, not gouache, so changes of getting it back out are low.
maco — January 23, 2013
haha my mom has told me off for not properly matching my blacks. My everyday skirt faded to black-in-the-red-brown-direction, while the t-shirts I picked up at punk shows over the years faded to black-in-the-bluish-grey-direction.
maco — January 23, 2013
Ditto black and dark brown.
ADub — January 23, 2013
"Women’s closets are often mocked as a form of self-indulgence, shop-a-holicism, or narcissism. But this isn’t fair. Instead, if a woman is class-privileged enough, they reflect an (often unarticulated) understanding of just how complicated the rules are."
Can I just say, where on earth is this coming from?
Next week there will be a half baked article on the dramatic rise in consumer culture and how the average woman has dozens more articles of clothing in her wardrobe than she did half a century ago.
I mean, great job justifying your need to buy more stuff. Listen to you say over and over again, "we NEED this," "we NEED that," made me what planet you were living on. I'm here to toss out a different idea: maybe you don't actually need it? Maybe you want it?
And maybe it's ok! Maybe it's ok to have a pair of strappy heels in black and want a pair of strappy flats, maybe it's ok to have a medium length black skirt that you which was just a little shorter sometimes, so let's get another... WHO CARES. The people who are criticizing women for this kind of thing are never going to think about what they are saying, or change their minds, because they are attached to their stereotype.
I think it's worth examining our personal consumption and figuring out if that is "self indulgence, shop-a-holicim, or narcissism." I don't believe there's a one-size fits all answer of "well, we all need to buy less." But listening to this illogical article about, "don't criticize me, society made me do it!" is just too much for me right now. I thought it was a fine image and an absurd conclusion to draw from it.
Holly — January 23, 2013
This is so ridiculous. This post doesn't make any sense. Have you even read this?
Wonky Factory — January 23, 2013
It's not about "getting it wrong" in someone's eyes; it's about them *wanting* you to be wrong so that they can treat you however you want. They'll find a way to make "matronly" into "asking for it" if they want to hurt you.
Cjoy77 — January 23, 2013
Looks to me as though this thread is beginning to be an excuse to exercise our new 'Word of the day' calendars we all received for xmas, not a mature discussion.
Problem is, I really wish people would use their educations for good. Maybe imagine that we overanalyze and sometimes obsess over the ridiculous. To those who ridicule or stand on your pedestals, Chill out. It takes a stronger person to imagine themselves and others without a label whatever it may be.
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Hgvanvlack — January 23, 2013
beauty complex 101
Guest — January 23, 2013
so woman are impervious to conditioning?because they have this "space" to dwell in
Guest — January 23, 2013
Intellectuals are so stupid.
Maybe you're addicted to retail, a hoarder or just plain greedy but last I checked having a vagina doesn't require vain materialism. If it's some desperate attempt to control what other people think of you call it that, don't blame assumptions of expectations (or the consequences of straying from them).
As a women I find this justification highly offensive. The only reason there might be any bit of truth to the heap of sterotypes you just through at us is because of women like you who adapt to them. If these rules exist it's because women like you perpetuate the arbitrary to become standard and allow industries to profit from them.Any "image" I'm trying to project is based on my intelegice and personality...not conforming to some agenda the fashion industry is trying to sell to me
Theresa W. — January 23, 2013
Fantastic post and commentary -- and the comments are great, too. I've got to stop 'liking' things before I get sucked in.
Keep up the great work, Lisa.
NunyaGodamnbusines — January 23, 2013
Too proper at the bar and you're ignored? I call full on and total BS.
NunyaGodamnbusines — January 23, 2013
Speaking from a purely professional/work scenario:
Ok, maybe men don't have the outright ability to "dress sexy" - but riddle me this....even in the hottest of hot weather, why on EARTH would a woman opt to wear a micro-mini to the office, if it wasn't to attract *some* sort of attention. Sexuality aside...dressing like you're going to a nightclub at the office isn't exactly screaming "I'm a professional, take me seriously". And while I realize that the way you dress shouldn't make a difference if you're performing well on the job, you're still stigmatizing yourself. I'm a heavily tattooed person, and I work in a professional setting. I know that if I don't take the time to wear long sleeves and hide my personal aesthetic, that regardless of how right or wrong it is, I'm sending a message (of one kind or another) to people. And whether or not that message was intended (I assure you, it's not), people will read into it regardless. Some people see the blatant tattoos and assume I'm criminally minded, or less than intelligent. Or maybe that I'm some lazy, slacker type. Is it true? Not at all - it's patently absurd. But I fully realize that even though *I* know I'm none of those things, and anyone who works closely with me knows that it's untrue, it's still a visual message, intended or not.If you come to the office wearing something that you'd also wear to go look sexy when out with your girlfriends, you have to understand that both men AND women will likely be making judgements about it.
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wombatmobile — January 24, 2013
All men are exactly the same. They all use these exact terms to describe all women all of the time. They are all complete sexists. If only men were open minded and nuanced like all women are all the time.
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jaebre — January 24, 2013
Ever since we started using clothing to cover up parts of our bodies out of a sense of "modesty" instead of simply protecting against the weather, being dressed has become extremely problematic regardless of gender (though women admittedly have it worse).
The nudists and naturists have it right - simply remove clothing from the equation completely, and we quickly discover that we're all just humans and everyone has the same bits.
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Eric Mitjans — January 24, 2013
I believe this piece is yet another nasty example of how the institutional gender ideology tries waaay too hard to force the idea of all women being tremendous victims and all men retarded donkeys as a well established social perception. Feminism, they call it.To declare that wearing a slightly-too-short skirt turns a woman into a potential violence victim is outrageous, as well as to say that a middle-leg one would push her into social marginalization. As I said, it portraits women first as either defenseless, naif creatures or socially impaired beings. On the next paragraph, it seems that women fall even lower: "being constantly in risk getting it wrong, or getting it wrong to someone. So the consequences are always floating out there, worrying us, and sending us to the mall". Yes, they are all poor victims of a systemic social convention that pushes them to the mall. I mean, really? The funny thing is that this is sold as progressive feminist text. I'm kinda pissed about it, I could only imagine what I would feel if I were, in fact a woman, and I'd have to read something that leave women as being in general personality-less creatures crying into a corner with no will whatsoever and the only possibility to dance to whatever tune the men-controlled world is playing at the moment ("Women’s closets are often mocked as a form of self-indulgence, shop-a-holicism, or narcissism. But this isn’t fair. Instead, if a woman is class-privileged enough, they reflect an (often unarticulated) understanding of just how complicated the rules are."). As a friend pointed out, I've lived in Berlin way too long, what probably has protected me from other scenarios where such claims would make more sense, like the competitive-ridden London or the vanity hole that is Rome. So I just want to point out the following. I'm, in fact, aware that such places and such social structures exist. But, I refuse, refuse, REFUSE, to think that any women actually bothered by such scenarios and such social stereotypes wouldn't be strong enough as to actually do whatever the f*ck she wanted, both clothes, work and life-wise.We are in the XXI century for Christ sake. Let's start acting like we actually believe it. True emancipation will only come if you grasp for it and stop falling into the victim and powerless portrait that is offered to you in a positive discrimination wrapped gift box, while at the same time men are painted as being one by one potential abusers and insensitive fucks. Enough is enough.
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Purplejesus — January 25, 2013
The problem with this piece is that it plays to the lowest common denominator of both genders. Only immature and misogynistic men really see things in terms of this spectrum, and only insecure and callow women give a shit. That isn't to say that the lowest common denominators are a minority - they're probably not. My point is why encourage them?
Factcheckvt — January 25, 2013
If you're trying to land a man by wearing some specific kind or type of clothing, you're going to get the wrong guy every time.
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Cassie @redletterDaye — January 25, 2013
I absolutely agree with this. Men have two looks, casual, and suits. My closet has caused me so much woe over the years, not to mention the body issues that unfortunately are also tied to (mostly) women and clothing. The effort needed to make oneself presentable in all situations is exhausting, mentally and physically, and I care a lot less than I used to, due to necessity. I'd much prefer to go sweatpants and braless. In a perfect world...
Ken — January 25, 2013
I've read the first 100 comments and really enjoyed the ideas expressed. As a husband of a professional woman, I am witness to her daily struggles with wardrobe.
What disturbs me about the article, image and discussion is that it validates a social code that is mostly unspoken as a real and tangible thing. This is only true if you believe what is written on the cover of Cosmo or whatever other marketing or branding that is putting these terms on our women.
"Too" flirty at work? Wrong. Workplace is not flirtplace. What to wear to a bar? How about don't go to one? The catch here is that the (presumably young) woman wants to control how the audience reacts to the amount of flesh that is shown. Not that I buy for a second that exposed flesh gives a man any right to do anything, but it's fair to assume that more flesh = more attention.
This really strikes me as a "have your cake and eat it, too" kind of discussion. Don't complain about where you are ranked on the scale if you validate the scale with your choices. If the decision is "Exactly how provocative should I dress for this occasion?," then you are already off to a bad start. Get noticed by your words and deeds, not your clothes or lack of them.
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WHG — January 26, 2013
What was the point of this article? I totally missed it.
A woman — January 26, 2013
"if you want any variety in your wardrobe."
No, this is why women have so many clothes. Because we think we need variety. Because we think we need new clothes for new situations, and dozens of things to choose from in every situation.
Why do we need an all-purpose black skirt in three different lengths for three different situations? Yes, I understand what you are getting at. This silly 'code' does exist, I agree. But do we have to buy into it, and the rest of the fashion rules? Why not choose a colour palette and stick to it, then at least if you feel you must have nine different all-purpose black skirts, you're only buying them in black and not three other colours as well. Or choose one appropriate length of skirt and just buy work skirts in that length, not in multiple lengths. Why does one need a 'flirty' skirt for work?
Yes, we are expected to dress appropriately for different situations, but to say we need to have so many different items of clothing just means you've bought into the fashion consumer culture.
Richard Hudak — January 26, 2013
At very first glance, seeing the photo in miniature on Pinterest (a gendered social media site?), I thought the post was going to be about self-injury. Upon further investigation I realized it wasn't. Upon even further reflection, I realized it still might be.
Sara Lin — January 26, 2013
Also, don't forget that, absent the time and skill to alter less-than-simple hemlines, or the money to pay other people for it, a woman's physical body changes the rules and the ability to follow them. I'm a very short girl, so a skirt that would be 'cheeky' on many women is almost 'proper' on me!
There are also body-policing rules around size and shape. A woman who is full-figured or heavy is often told to cover up if she goes any higher than 'proper'.
Rosie — January 26, 2013
A girl's skirt length is never "never asking for it." Rape isn't about what someone is wearing. This just encourages victim blaming. Instead of telling girls not to get raped we need to tell men not to rape!
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Noemail — January 26, 2013
No one is ever "asking for it."
penis — January 26, 2013
vagina
Elizabeth Andkylie — January 26, 2013
Here's my new version, starting from the bottom:
1. Fancy evening dress
2. Office Christmas party where you are safeguarding your legs from gross drunk old men's eyes
3. Regular work level / Too lazy to shave above the knee
4. More relaxed office / Hey, I remembered to shave above the knee today!
5. I have nice legs and you can't touch them
6. I have really nice legs and you still can't touch them
7. It's summer time and I'm happily wearing shorts or a short skirt or else I'm at a club at night and I'm cold but I can handle it
8. I'm wearing shorter shorts/skirt and if you think I'm asking for it, then well, you are asking for my knee to be slammed against your balls
9. I'm comfortable/happy with my butt cheeks hanging out. If teenage boys can display the tops of their butt cheeks with their dragging pants, then I can display the bottoms of mine. Honestly, whose butt cheeks would you rather look at?
10. It's a free country, mind your own business. If you can walk around topless with your hairy chest showing, I can display a larger portion of my butt checks if I so choose to. If you strongly object to seeing the occasional butt cheek or portion thereof, maybe you should move to Saudi Arabia. This is America, Home of the Free!
Nicole — January 26, 2013
we could just stop judging people by their clothing
Dregster — January 27, 2013
boohoo.
AK — January 28, 2013
What bothers me about this photograph is the line that says "asking for it". I understand that a short skirt is provocative, but under no circumstances can a woman's choice of dress be the reason for her rape. The lack of self-control on behalf of the man at fault is THE only reason a girl is raped. Not because her skirt length meant she was "asking for it".
I find it even more troubling that this photograph is by a female, praised by females and I haven't noticed this point being brought up. Even women these days are starting to submit to the male-centered ideal that their inability to control their sexual drives is the clear result of the woman's clothes. Disgusting.
Guest — January 28, 2013
So glad I work for the forest service. Jeans, flannel shirt, and hiking boots. Every day. This article is really a great argument for work uniforms. Then no assumptions can be drawn from clothing, period.
Bruyoung — January 28, 2013
Ditto to Rod's comment on this: "Oh, for the day when the entire discussion is moot." Surely we've moved forward over the years to get to the place of an individual can live their own life without fear the judgement of others, that we embrace all for who they are and not their choices (dress or otherwise). A woman's body, and a man's for that matter, is their own and not for anyone else to interpret what they are trying to convey in the choices they make nor control to impose their values.
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Mir Ahsan — January 31, 2013
Look, girls and their habits. It is what it is. Just that ladies? All things in moderation. Yeah it's tough with constant judging but if you're true to yourself it will eventually shine through.
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lexi — February 1, 2013
This reminds me of myfirst internship. Come in a whole pantsuit for the first week and youre in the back room filing papers and no one has a clue what your name is. Wear skirt mom buys and hair down and your boss brings your bags to your desk for you, you get inivitations to co worker outtings and now they manage to let you join in on a project, pretty soon compliments from attractive males in other department turn to, secret chatter about a hs intern.. turns to older woman confronting you to say "there are men in this office". My skirt was never above the knee.
I take the risk and dress how i see fit. I cant allow people and their dumbas* opinions limit my freedoms and bodily autonomy
j4ckl3 — February 3, 2013
You have so many clothes and shoes because you continue to BUY so many clothes and shoes. Stop buying so many clothes and shoes and there will be less places that SELL JUST womens clothes and shoes. Go into a mall sometime and look at how many stores cater to JUST womens clothes and shoes and underwear. Just stop it.
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Gilalexander19 — February 5, 2013
I feel like these are the Men's rules for what the skirt length means, not women's rules. Was there ever a time where that length had more meaning than just "how badly they want to have sex with me"?
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Tiria — February 8, 2013
Heaven forbid a woman not get attention at a bar. Seriously, wtf? Why would any woman with half a brain cell go partner-shopping at a bar, miniskirt or no? I'm totally behind complaints about job discrimination and violence WRT how women dress, but I have absolutely zero sympathy for women who complain about their love lives when the only place they ever go looking is bars and nightclubs. I can guarantee you will find neither love nor a satisfying fling at places like that.
If you want to find a partner who doesn't care about how you dress, don't go looking for one at a place focused almost entirely on physical appearance as a social attractant.
Sarah — February 8, 2013
A couple things: 1)No one is ever "asking for it." This is a cheap excuse bad men use when they try to assert themselves on women. We need to acknowledge the abuse in this terminology, and cleanse it from our vocabulary.2) I would hope that this picture makes more people think about how ludicrous it is that women have to adhere to definitions of femininity set by our culture and by macho men. It shouldn't just be about why our closets need to be bigger, but more about rebelling from this standard.
The rules are complicated and there is a spectrum, so thanks for bringing attention to this !
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CristinaHaines — February 9, 2013
I don't like the idea of blaming society for the things I have in my closet, which I obtained using my own means. I also disagree that women MUST have a lot of items in our wardrobe. We always have more than men because women's styles are complicated (and manufacturers are insisting more and more upon thin fabrics, necessitating layers), but you can also be practical and minimalist while still looking socially acceptable for every occasion. For example, I've chosen a length ("proper") and stuck with it, which means I hardly have to give any thought to getting dressed in the morning and I always look appropriate. I can go to church or an orchestra concert in the same thing I attended my university classes in. I learned this because as a music major, I might have to attend math class and perform in the same day, and I always want to look smart for rehearsals so it doesn't look like I just rolled out of bed.
Part of the difficulty, I feel, is in the definition of "business casual." People think it has to be masculine and uncomfortable—a starched blouse, pants, and heels, for example—but it could also be feminine and effortless: a black knee-length skirt and black flats can be worn for any occasion, effectively blending "dressy" with "everyday."
I barely have any items in my closet and would like to keep it that way (why fix what isn't broken?) Then again...I live in Florida, so those of you who have to dress for different seasons, carry on...and I do admit I have 5 pairs of black shoes. :) My point is that I am uncomfortable blaming society and culture when I could think, dress, and buy independently.
alice — February 13, 2013
While fashion can be about rigid gender codes that make women's lives difficult, a lot of women find the negotiation, manipulation and (if you're daring) distortion of these rules intensely pleasurable. I think there's a way to take ownership of the codes and have fun rewriting your own identity.
lilbear68 — February 21, 2013
naw its just that you have all these costumes because so much of your lives are a lie
just for a small example, the push up bra, its like a bag of potato chips. it looks nice and full but when its opened its usually less than half full and very disapointing
its amusing that women all say they want men to tell the truth when their entire lives are built on never ending lies
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Autumn — February 26, 2013
WHO is enforcing all of these rules?? I don't own any high heels because I have weird feet and they hurt too much, but I haven't ever found myself in any social situation where they were required. Not wearing heels means I have to be more creative when I'm dressing up, but I think that's forced me to find my own personal style. I guess my point is, the rules only victimize you if you force yourself to follow them.
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KathleenBasi — April 20, 2013
I know there are sometimes real consequences based on the way others view us, but I really think we sometimes give too much weight to others' opinions instead of doing what's right for us and not worrying about what others think.
Anti-Feminist Female — May 5, 2013
Schlaaaaag
smam — May 8, 2013
Has anyone mentioned that no matter what a woman wears she is inherently a target for sexual victimization simply for being a woman in a society dominated by rape culture?
This image incorrectly implies that a woman makes herself a victim by what she wears. The message of the article AND of the image puts the onus on women to prevent our own victimization, rather than putting the blame on the predators and victimizers. This is WRONG and this is why the majority of sexual assaults go unreported and the majority of perpetrators walk free.
Kerri Wood — May 14, 2013
Don't forget the difference in leg lengths here. What may be proper on my 5'5" frame would definitely hit in the cheeky area on my 5'10" or taller friends.
Brain Molecule Marketing — August 20, 2013
Here's an alternative read on woman's roles as expressed in dating and mating behavior, mainly reproductive drives. The choice of mates in youth is THE most important decision a woman can make that will determine not only her life outcomes but also those of her generations in the future. Marry someone with a genetic condition, say mental illness like alcoholism, and acute pain is the legacy that will be left for generations to come.
The competition among women for high resources men is also greater than ever and many fewer hi-resource men exist.
To frame all this in victimization, outside of the biological imperatives of mating, is superficial, and old ideology. A series of simple pop analogies, unsupported by science and data - but popular. However, the block real understanding rather than enhance.
The male brain, as a hunter's brain, is hyper-visual so easy visual breeding-health signals are going to be energizing. As for women social care-taking signals are attractive.
However, it is as likely women dress for competition with other females and status in female group. Showing you have the genetic traits that easily and quickly signal reproductive health to males (what is called hot or sexy) - likely is a status boost for women in groups.
Finally, if any woman is looking for a mate in a bar - that a reproductive mistake of the first order.
name — September 6, 2013
Despite how far this article attempts to avoid being shallow, it is. Women do not need to alter their appearance several times a day in order to submit to social conventions. I find it insulting. Wear what you want and don't subscribe to fluctuating and absurd 'trends'. Having an overstocked wardrobe in uneconomical and frankly a great waste of time and money.
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I find this blog post to oversimplify the issue. I doubt most women make fashion choices because of a conscious decision to walk the slut/matron line. How society views the appropriateness of women's clothing also isn't as cut-and-dry as the image portrays. Yes, some clothes are more work appropriate than others, but maxi dresses and skirts are in fashion now, so long isn't seen as prudish. Anyone could make the argument that a woman is "asking for it" from her clothing or behavior, but there isn't an objective standard for how they come to that opinion.
If people have an issue with women buying clothes, that's more a problem of their attitude. We should not feel that we have to defend our buying choices. There is a good argument for not spending to excess on any luxury item, but that's more about proper budgeting than because buying clothing or shoes is wrong. If you enjoy fashion, great. You don't have to fill your closet to excess or spend a ton of money to have a sense of style, though.
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There should be one more line on the very top - Pop Star
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There should be one more line on the very top "Blurred Line(s)" http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/09/17/from-the-mouths-of-rapists-the-lyrics-of-robin-thickes-blurred-lines-and-real-life-rape/
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Or maybe you can just stop defining yourself by other people's standards and be your own person. It's all in your head, after all.
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