{"id":2693,"date":"2010-05-11T16:05:22","date_gmt":"2010-05-11T21:05:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/?p=2693"},"modified":"2010-05-11T16:06:33","modified_gmt":"2010-05-11T21:06:33","slug":"from-the-it-depends-files-green-myths-debunked","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/2010\/05\/11\/from-the-it-depends-files-green-myths-debunked\/","title":{"rendered":"From the &#8220;It Depends&#8221; Files :: Green Myths &#8220;Debunked&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a style=\"margin-left: 1em;margin-right: 1em\" href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_t1ZZxITe_8c\/S-mOl78VHCI\/AAAAAAAABn4\/kdTyckk-jhE\/s1600\/GreenMyths.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_t1ZZxITe_8c\/S-mOl78VHCI\/AAAAAAAABn4\/kdTyckk-jhE\/s640\/GreenMyths.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"640\" height=\"498\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<div style=\"clear: both;text-align: left\"><em>This blog was originally posted on <a href=\"http:\/\/vox.rhizomicon.com\/2010\/05\/from-it-depends-files-green-myths.html\">rhizomicon<\/a><\/em><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;text-align: left\"><em><br \/>\n<\/em><\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;text-align: left\">Money\/CNN has a <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/galleries\/2010\/technology\/1003\/gallery.green_myths.fortune\/9.html\">feature on 25 green myths debunked.<\/a><\/strong> I tend to take issue with features like this, no matter what the focal issue is, since it tries to reduce often complex matters to a simple pithy paragraph or two. More often than not, the answer to the &#8220;myth&#8221; like with many things is that &#8220;it depends&#8221;. I dislike &#8220;it depends&#8221; as an answer. I had a boss who thought that was an answer he often looked for, but he tended to be a wishy-washy sort who was more talk than walk.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;text-align: left\">Many of the 25 aren&#8217;t controversial in the least, such as debunking of the myth that &#8220;bottled water is safer than tap&#8221;. The main problem I have is that by calling something a &#8220;myth&#8221; and providing equivocal evidence, <em>i.e.<\/em>, &#8220;it depends&#8221; answers, frames an environmental issue in a way that could turn people away from something that may have potential in the future to be green or actually is green in certain contexts. I wish these articles would go into greater depth on the issues behind what makes them &#8220;myths&#8221; and get people to think about how their choices fit in with their values.<\/div>\n<div style=\"clear: both;text-align: left\">The <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/galleries\/2010\/technology\/1003\/gallery.green_myths.fortune\/9.html\">paper versus plastic bag issue<\/a><\/strong> can get pretty complicated if you factor in all the variables, but the Money\/CNN snippet was right in saying that no matter which you choose, at least re-use or recycle the bag or better yet, use a canvas bag. The problem I have is that the article focuses on the energy used to create a plastic versus paper bag. Well, not all energy is created equal. If there&#8217;s a pulpmill or recycling plant in an area that uses hydroelectric {<em>e.g<\/em>., British Columbia or the US Pacific Northwest}, that&#8217;s likely to beat a plastic bag factory using coal, despite a 4:1 energy use ratio that favours paper. So, the issues should be::<\/div>\n<ul>\n<li>relative weight {transportation energy}<\/li>\n<li>energy to produce and transport the bags and lifecycle carbon footprint<\/li>\n<li>biodegradability {although landfills emphasize stability, not biodegradation}<\/li>\n<li>harm to wildlife in the natural environment<\/li>\n<li>use of a renewable versus non-renewable resource<\/li>\n<li>use, durability, and cost of compostable plastics vs. regular plastic bags and paper bags<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<div>This <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/reason.org\/news\/show\/1003006.html\">reason.org article<\/a><\/strong> has more complexity, yet comes to the same conclusions as the\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/galleries\/2010\/technology\/1003\/gallery.green_myths.fortune\/9.html\">CNN\/Money article<\/a><\/strong>. Nevertheless, how does one make tradeoffs between energy used to produce a bag and the fact that it&#8217;s made from a renewable or non-renewable resource. Sometimes these things will come down to personal values.<\/div>\n<div>I think many people want to do the right thing, to the extent of their values system. I understand that all of these articles are trying to give consumers decision short-cuts {heuristics} on these green issues, but in many of the issues are framed in a way that obfuscates how personal values can factor in.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>I still get &#8220;crap&#8221; for using all sorts of plastic bags for used kitty litter that goes into the Toronto wet waste bin. Somehow, I get a great deal of satisfaction &#8220;creating&#8221; whole wheat pitas and Mini-wheats from catbox beach, but that&#8217;s another story.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><strong>Song::<\/strong> Bj\u00f6rk-&#8216;Natt\u00fara&#8217;<\/div>\n<div><span style=\"color: white;font-family: Helvetica, Arial, Verdana, sans-serif;font-size: 12px;line-height: 18px\"><object classid=\"d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"250\" height=\"40\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"window\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"hostname=cowbell.grooveshark.com&amp;widgetID=21117405&amp;style=metal&amp;p=0\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/listen.grooveshark.com\/songWidget.swf\" \/><\/object><\/span><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><strong>Twitterversion::<\/strong> 25 green myths debunked, although care should be taken in taking some of the recommendations.\u00a0<a title=\"#ThickCulture\" rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/search?q=%23ThickCulture\">#ThickCulture<\/a> <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"http:\/\/url.ie\/64jk\" target=\"_blank\">http:\/\/url.ie\/64jk<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Prof_K\">@Prof_K<\/a><\/div>\n<p><script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <\/script> <script type=\"text\/javascript\">\/\/ <\/script><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This blog was originally posted on rhizomicon Money\/CNN has a feature on 25 green myths debunked. I tend to take issue with features like this, no matter what the focal issue is, since it tries to reduce often complex matters to a simple pithy paragraph or two. 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