{"id":2288,"date":"2010-02-03T10:34:26","date_gmt":"2010-02-03T15:34:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/?p=2288"},"modified":"2010-02-03T12:54:26","modified_gmt":"2010-02-03T17:54:26","slug":"does-the-deficit-really-matter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/2010\/02\/03\/does-the-deficit-really-matter\/","title":{"rendered":"Does the Deficit Really Matter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2287\" title=\"college_money\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/college_money.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"442\" height=\"244\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/college_money.jpg 442w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/college_money-100x55.jpg 100w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/college_money-400x220.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 442px) 100vw, 442px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>First off, I think there&#8217;s little that can be done about the forthcoming yearly deficits and total debt of the US federal government. Reigning in spending at this point will just make a bad situation worse. Nevertheless, what are the implications of the deficit. People have views about it, as <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/pewresearch.org\/pubs\/1472\/public-priorities-president-congress-2010\">Pew Research shows<\/a><\/strong>. It is currently #7, in terms of people&#8217;s top priorities and for the past two years, both Republicans and Democrats see it as a priority, being within a percentage point of each other. Over the years, the concern has gone up and down::<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-2289\" title=\"Pew\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/Pew.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"349\" height=\"372\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/Pew.jpg 349w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/Pew-93x100.jpg 93w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 349px) 100vw, 349px\" \/>What I&#8217;m not sure is whether or not people get the implications of a huge debt. I remember in macroeconomics being taught about <strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.investopedia.com\/terms\/c\/crowdingouteffect.asp\">&#8220;crowding out&#8221;<\/a><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">, where government spending and resultant borrowing &#8220;crowds out&#8221; entities seeking capital in lending markets and drives up interest rates. \u00a0Now, the <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052748703422904575039173633482894.html?mod=WSJ-hpp-LEADNewsCollection#articleTabs%3Darticle\">Wall Street Journal<\/a><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"> is singing cassandra&#8217;s tune, warning that foreign creditors holding US Treasury securities is a threat to the nation&#8217;s national security and<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"> Leon Panetta, CIA Director, agrees::<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><object classid=\"d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"560\" height=\"340\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/rYznF6mVTcA&amp;hl=en_US&amp;fs=1&amp;\" \/><param name=\"allowfullscreen\" value=\"true\" \/><\/object><br \/>\n<strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">I don&#8217;t see this happening. Why? I think we&#8217;re in for the dollar depreciating, as I see policies on the horizon that will lead to inflation, higher interest rates, and a devalued dollar, as does\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/articles.moneycentral.msn.com\/Investing\/JubaksJournal\/us-debt-sets-stage-for-inflation.aspx\">Jim Jubak at MSN<\/a><\/strong>. Holding the dollar won&#8217;t have the appeal it once had, given that it&#8217;s likely to devalue, and the Chinese are already curbing their appetite for US debt. In any case, this level of debt isn&#8217;t a &#8220;game over&#8221; situation and the US won&#8217;t go bankrupt, no matter which &#8220;expert&#8221; says it on CNN.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">Currently, inflation is practically non-existant, as is nominal GDP {<em>i.e<\/em>., national income} growth, and interest rates are rock bottom. \u00a0The inflation and interest rates give the economy some degrees of freedom. A more troubling issue is GDP growth, which might be hindered by structural problems in the economy. We may not &#8220;grow&#8221; out of this, where economic growth increases incomes and tax revenues. Unemployment is the highest it&#8217;s been since 1983 and will be a political hot button issue in 2010.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\">As for deficit spending and the increasing debt, total public debt as a percentage of GDP {a debt to income ratio} is high, approaching the levels it was in the late 1940s. While the numbers are mind-boggling, the debt isn&#8217;t unprecedented.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"font-weight: normal\"> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_2290\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2290\" style=\"width: 551px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-2290  \" title=\"US indicators\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/US-indicators.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"551\" height=\"378\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/US-indicators.jpg 680w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/US-indicators-100x68.jpg 100w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/thickculture\/files\/2010\/02\/US-indicators-400x274.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 551px) 100vw, 551px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-2290\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Data sources:: CPI\/inflation data from BLS, nominal federal funds rate from Federal Reserve, Unemployment data from BLS, public debt from Treasury Direct, &amp; nominal GDP from BEA. Note:: the thickness of each band at a given year represents the rate for the given variable. Kenneth M. Kambara<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>I&#8217;m not staying up at night worrying about the deficit, although there will be several policy implications::<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>The true danger of the deficit spending is if there isn&#8217;t a\u00a0<strong><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Multiplier_(economics)\">multiplier effect<\/a>, <\/strong><em>i.e.<\/em>, the impact of a dollar spent is some multiple of that dollar. I&#8217;m afraid that spending may not be directed towards projects\/endeavours that get the most &#8220;bang&#8221; for their buck.<\/li>\n<li>Too much emphasis on the deficit may hamper spending that achieves multiplier effects.<\/li>\n<li>Read my lips, expect higher taxes in the long haul.<\/li>\n<li>There will political pressure to reduce unemployment and {in my opinion} spending should focus on this, in ways that achieve a multiplier effect, <em>e.g.<\/em>, jobs that also increase innovativeness and\/or productivity or improve infrastructure.<\/li>\n<li>Expect programme cuts and pressures towards privatization.<\/li>\n<li>Expect reductions in military spending.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Ideally, deficit spending is an &#8220;investment&#8221; in the country when there aren&#8217;t tax revenues to cover it, as in a recession. The real question shouldn&#8217;t be how much is being spent, but how and where it&#8217;s being spent.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Twitterversion:: <\/strong>Are you concerned about the US deficit? Blog post focusing on the real implications of running up the bills. <a href=\"http:\/\/twitter.com\/Prof_K\">@Prof_K<\/a><\/p>\n<p><strong>Song:: <\/strong>Hem-&#8220;When I Was Drinking&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\">&#8220;Living it up when the rent was due<br \/>\nWith nothing and no one to live up to&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><object classid=\"d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000\" width=\"366\" height=\"40\" codebase=\"http:\/\/download.macromedia.com\/pub\/shockwave\/cabs\/flash\/swflash.cab#version=6,0,40,0\"><param name=\"wmode\" value=\"window\" \/><param name=\"allowScriptAccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"flashvars\" value=\"hostname=cowbell.grooveshark.com&amp;widgetID=19921312&amp;style=metal&amp;p=0\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/listen.grooveshark.com\/songWidget.swf\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>First off, I think there&#8217;s little that can be done about the forthcoming yearly deficits and total debt of the US federal government. Reigning in spending at this point will just make a bad situation worse. Nevertheless, what are the implications of the deficit. People have views about it, as Pew Research shows. 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