{"id":5752,"date":"2009-01-05T21:52:33","date_gmt":"2009-01-06T02:52:33","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/?p=5752"},"modified":"2010-12-02T05:43:22","modified_gmt":"2010-12-02T10:43:22","slug":"orgasmic-birth-and-the-myth-of-the-vaginal-orgasm","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/2009\/01\/05\/orgasmic-birth-and-the-myth-of-the-vaginal-orgasm\/","title":{"rendered":"Orgasmic Birth and the Myth of the Vaginal Orgasm"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Freud distinguished between a &#8220;mature&#8221; (vaginal) and &#8220;immature&#8221; (clitoral) orgasm, telling women that to require clitoral stimulation for orgasm was a psychological problem. Contesting this, in 1970 Anne Koedt wrote <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.feministezine.com\/feminist\/modern\/The-Myth-ofthe-Vaginal-Orgasm.html\" target=\"_blank\">The Myth of the Vaginal Orgasm<\/a><\/em>. \u00a0She explains:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Frigidity has generally been defined by men as the failure of women to have vaginal orgasms. Actually the vagina is not a highly sensitive area and is not constructed to achieve orgasm. It is the clitoris which is the center of sexual sensitivity and which is the female equivalent of the penis&#8230; Rather than tracing female frigidity to the false assumptions about female anatomy, our &#8220;experts&#8221; have declared frigidity a psychological problem of women.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Indeed, studies show that about 1\/3rd of women regularly reach orgasm during penile-vaginal sex.\u00a0 The rest (that is,\u00a0the majority)\u00a0require more direct clitoral stimulation.\u00a0 Koedt goes on (my emphasis):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>All this leads to some interesting questions about conventional sex\u00a0and our role in it. Men have orgasms essentially by friction with the vagina, not the clitoral area, which is external and not able to cause friction the way penetration does. <em>Women have thus been defined sexually in terms of what pleases men<\/em>; our own biology has not been properly analyzed. Instead, we are fed the myth of the liberated woman and her vaginal orgasm &#8211; an orgasm which in fact does not exist.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Koedt&#8217;s article was highly influential and rejecting the notion of the &#8220;vaginal orgasm&#8221; (both anatomically and functionally) was part of second wave feminism.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Still, the vaginal orgasm keeps coming back.\u00a0 During the &#8217;90s, it came back in the form of the G-spot.\u00a0 You, too, can have a vaginal orgasm if you can just find that totally-orgasmic-pleasure-spot-rich-in-blood-vessels-and-nerve-endings-that-makes-for-wildly-amazing-orgasms-with-ejaculation that you, strangely,\u00a0never knew was there!\u00a0 (See what Betty Dodson has to say about the g-spot <a href=\"https:\/\/dodsonandross.com\/essay\/g-spot-revisited-0\" target=\"_blank\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<p>Most recently, the vaginal orgasm has come back in the form of orgasmic birth.\u00a0 The idea is that women can, if they really want to, have an orgasm (or orgasms) during childbirth.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Now, I don&#8217;t want to argue that women never have orgasms from penile-vaginal intercourse.\u00a0 They do.\u00a0 I also don&#8217;t care to debate whether a g-spot exists.\u00a0 And I am certainly not going to look a mother in the face and tell her she did not have an orgasm during childbirth.\u00a0 I am sure some women do.\u00a0 (And, anyway, I get a kick out of thinking about such a mother\u00a0telling her teenager the story of his birth, so I&#8217;m going to keep believing it is true).<\/p>\n<p>Anyway, what I do want to do is discuss how the video below uses the idea of orgasmic birth to reinscribe the myth of the vaginal orgasm.\u00a0 The\u00a0reporter says that orgasmic birth is just &#8220;basic science&#8221; and then turns to interview an M.D.\u00a0\u00a0The M.D. uses the vaginal orgasm as scientific evidence for the possibility of orgasmic birth.\u00a0 She says: obviously a baby would cause an orgasm when it comes out the vagina, since a penis causes an orgasm when it goes into the vagina.\u00a0 But, of course, it usually doesn&#8217;t.\u00a0 That last part isn&#8217;t &#8220;basic science,&#8221;\u00a0it&#8217;s ideology (as Koedt so nicely points out).<\/p>\n<p>I wonder how many women now feel doubly bad.\u00a0 Not only can they not have orgasms from penile-vaginal intercourse, they also experienced pain during childbirth!\u00a0 Bad ladies!\u00a0 Watch the whole 8-minute clip or start at 3:28 to see the interview with the M.D.:<\/p>\n<p><object width=\"425\" height=\"344\"><param name=\"allowFullScreen\" value=\"true\" \/><param name=\"allowscriptaccess\" value=\"always\" \/><param name=\"src\" value=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/v\/2o7PjEUZ_5Q&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1\" \/><\/object><\/p>\n<p>Via <a href=\"http:\/\/jezebel.com\/5123880\/2020-on-the-joys-of-labor-pains-breastfeeding-first-graders\" target=\"_blank\">Jezebel<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Freud distinguished between a &#8220;mature&#8221; (vaginal) and &#8220;immature&#8221; (clitoral) orgasm, telling women that to require clitoral stimulation for orgasm was a psychological problem. Contesting this, in 1970 Anne Koedt wrote The Myth of the Vaginal Orgasm. \u00a0She explains: Frigidity has generally been defined by men as the failure of women to have vaginal orgasms. 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