{"id":40621,"date":"2011-10-20T12:30:15","date_gmt":"2011-10-20T17:30:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/?p=40621"},"modified":"2011-11-09T14:21:20","modified_gmt":"2011-11-09T19:21:20","slug":"misportraying-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/2011\/10\/20\/misportraying-the-occupy-wall-street-protesters\/","title":{"rendered":"Misportraying the Occupy Wall Street Protesters"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>Cross-posted at <a href=\"http:\/\/montclairsoci.blogspot.com\/2011\/10\/if-your-survey-doesnt-find-what-you.html\" target=\"_blank\">Montclair SocioBlog<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>If your survey doesn\u2019t find what you want it to find . . .<\/p>\n<p>. . . say that it did.<\/p>\n<p>Doug Schoen is a pollster who wants the Democrats to distance themselves from the Occupy Wall Street protesters.\u00a0\u00a0 (Schoen is Mayor Bloomberg\u2019s pollster.\u00a0 He has also worked for Bill Clinton.)\u00a0 In the <a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052970204479504576637082965745362.html\"><em>Wall Street Journal<\/em><\/a>,\u00a0 he reported on a survey done by a researcher at his firm.\u00a0 She interviewed 200 of the protesters in Zucotti Park.<\/p>\n<p>Here is Schoen\u2019s overall take:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What binds a large majority of the protesters together\u2014regardless of age, socioeconomic status or education\u2014is a deep commitment to left-wing policies: opposition to free-market capitalism and support for radical redistribution of wealth, intense regulation of the private sector, and protectionist policies to keep American jobs from going overseas.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>I suppose it\u2019s nitpicking to point out that the survey did not ask about SES or education.\u00a0 Even if it had, breaking the 200 respondents down into these categories would give numbers too small for comparison.<\/p>\n<p>More to the point, that \u201clarge majority\u201d opposed to free-market capitalism is 4% &#8212; eight of the people interviewed.\u00a0 Another eight said they wanted \u201cradical redistribution of wealth.\u201d\u00a0 So at most, 16 people, 8%, mentioned these goals.\u00a0 (The full results of the survey are available\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.capitalnewyork.com\/article\/culture\/2011\/10\/3790409\/survey-many-occupy-wall-street-protesters-are-unhappy-democrats-who-\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>What would you like to see the Occupy Wall Street movement achieve? {Open Ended}<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>35% Influence the Democratic Party the way the Tea Party has influenced the GOP<br \/>\n<strong>4% Radical redistribution of wealth <\/strong><br \/>\n5% Overhaul of tax system: replace income tax with flat tax<br \/>\n7% Direct Democracy<br \/>\n9% Engage &amp; mobilize Progressives<br \/>\n9% Promote a national conversation<br \/>\n11% Break the two-party duopoly<br \/>\n<strong>4% Dissolution of our representative democracy\/capitalist system <\/strong><br \/>\n4% Single payer health care<br \/>\n4% Pull out of Afghanistan immediately<br \/>\n8% Not sure<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Schoen\u2019s distortion reminded me of this photo that I took on Saturday (it was our semi-annual Sociology New York Walk, and Zucotti Park was our first stop).<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-jDVu_xLq1zU\/Tp7m1twrRTI\/AAAAAAAACyU\/D2qNjNJLEzQ\/s1600\/OWS+1.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-jDVu_xLq1zU\/Tp7m1twrRTI\/AAAAAAAACyU\/D2qNjNJLEzQ\/s320\/OWS+1.jpg\" border=\"0\" alt=\"\" width=\"320\" height=\"261\" \/><\/a><\/div>\n<p>The big poster in the foreground, the one that captures your attention, is radical militance &#8212; the waif from the \u201cLes Mis\u201d poster turned revolutionary.\u00a0 But the specific points on the sign at the right are conventional liberal policies &#8212; the policies of the current Administration.<\/p>\n<p>There are other ways to misinterpret survey results.\u00a0 Here is Schoen in the WSJ:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sixty-five percent say that government has a moral responsibility to guarantee all citizens access to affordable health care, a college education, and a secure retirement\u2014no matter the cost.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Here is the actual question:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Do you agree or disagree with the following statement: Government has a moral responsibility to guarantee healthcare, college education, and a secure retirement for all.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>\u201cNo matter the cost\u201d is not in the question.\u00a0 As careful survey researchers know, even slight changes in wording can affect responses.\u00a0 And including or omitting \u201cno matter the cost\u201d is hardly a slight change.<\/p>\n<p>As evidence for the extreme radicalism of the protestors, Schoen says,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>By a large margin (77%-22%), they support raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans,<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Schoen doesn\u2019t bother to mention that this isn\u2019t much different from what you\u2019d find outside Zucotti Park.\u00a0 Recent polls by Pew and Gallup find support for increased taxes on the wealthy ($250,000 or more) at 67%.\u00a0 (Given the small sample size of the Zucotti poll, 67% may be within the margin of error.)\u00a0 Gallup also finds the majorities of two-thirds or more think that banks, large corporations, and lobbyists have too much power.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Thus Occupy Wall Street is a group of engaged progressives who are disillusioned with the capitalist system and have a distinct activist orientation. . . . .Half (52%) have participated in a political movement before.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>That means that half the protesters were never politically active until Occupy Wall Street inspired them.<\/p>\n<p>Reading Schoen, you get the impression that these are hard-core activists, old hands at political demonstrations, with Phil Ochs on their iPods and a well-thumbed copy of \u201cThe Manifesto\u201d in their pockets.\u00a0 In fact, the protesters were mostly young people with not much political experience who wanted to work within the system (i.e., with the Democratic party) to achieve fairly conventional goals, like keeping the financial industry from driving the economy into a ditch again.<\/p>\n<p>And according to a\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/swampland.time.com\/full-results-of-oct-9-10-2011-time-poll\/\">recent Time survey<\/a>, more than half of America views them favorably.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cross-posted at Montclair SocioBlog. If your survey doesn\u2019t find what you want it to find . . . . . . say that it did. Doug Schoen is a pollster who wants the Democrats to distance themselves from the Occupy Wall Street protesters.\u00a0\u00a0 (Schoen is Mayor Bloomberg\u2019s pollster.\u00a0 He has also worked for Bill Clinton.)\u00a0 [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":258,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[12508,36,274,85],"class_list":["post-40621","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-activismsocial-movements","tag-economics","tag-methodsuse-of-data","tag-politics"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40621","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/258"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=40621"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40621\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41745,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/40621\/revisions\/41745"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=40621"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=40621"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=40621"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}