{"id":39641,"date":"2011-09-21T10:59:30","date_gmt":"2011-09-21T15:59:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/?p=39641"},"modified":"2011-11-09T00:53:19","modified_gmt":"2011-11-09T05:53:19","slug":"fbi-says-islam-is-more-violent-than-judaism-and-christianity","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/2011\/09\/21\/fbi-says-islam-is-more-violent-than-judaism-and-christianity\/","title":{"rendered":"FBI Says Islam is a Violent Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"

Cross-posted at Montclair SocioBlog<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

A\u00a0 picture \u2013 or a graph without data \u2013 is like anecdotal evidence.\u00a0 It can be very persuasive, but unless it\u2019s based on systematic evidence, it\u2019s just misleading. \u00a0Case in point:<\/p>\n

The FBI is teaching its counter-terrorism agents that Islam is an inherently violent religion.\u00a0 So are the followers of Islam.\u00a0 Not just the extremists and radicals, but the mainstream.<\/p>\n

There may not be a \u2018radical\u2019 threat as much as it is simply a normal assertion of the orthodox ideology… The strategic themes animating these Islamic values are not fringe; they are main stream.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Wired<\/a> got hold of the training materials.\u00a0 The\u00a0Times<\/a> <\/em>has more coverage, including a section of the report that describes Muhammad as \u201ca cult leader for a small inner circle.\u201d (How small? Twelve perhaps?)\u00a0 He also \u201cemployed torture to extract information.\u201d*<\/p>\n

An FBI PowerPoint slide has a “graph” to support its assertions.<\/p>\n

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The graph, really just a drawing, claims to show that followers of the Torah and the Bible have gotten progressively less violent since 1400 BC, while followers of the Koran flatline starting around 620 AD and remain just as violent as ever.<\/p>\n

Unfortunately, the creators of the chart do not say how they operationalized \u201cviolent\u201d and \u201cnon-violent.\u201d\u00a0 But since the title of the presentation is \u201cMilitancy Considerations,\u201d it might have something to do with military, para-military, and quasi-military violence.\u00a0 When it comes to quantities of death, destruction, and injury, these overwhelm other types of violence.<\/p>\n

I must confess that my knowledge of history is sadly wanting, and I was educated before liberals imposed all this global, multicultural nonsense on schools, so I know nothing about wars that might have happened among Muslims during the period in question.\u00a0 What I was taught was that the really big wars, the important wars, the wars that killed the most people, were mostly affairs among followers of the Bible.\u00a0 Some of these were so big that they were called \u201cWorld Wars\u201d even though followers of the Qur\u2019an had very low levels of participation.\u00a0 Some of these wars lasted quite a long time \u2013 thirty years, a hundred years.\u00a0 I was also taught that the in the important violence that did involve Muslims \u2013 i.e., the Crusades** \u2013 it was the followers of the Bible who were doing most of the killing.<\/p>\n

Perhaps those with a more knowledge of Muslim militant violence can provide the data.<\/p>\n

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* To be fair, the FBI seems to have been innocent of any of the torture that took place during the Bush years.\u00a0 That was all done by the military and the CIA \u2013 and by the non-Christian governments to which the Bush administration outsourced the work.<\/p>\n

** Followers of the Bible crusading to \u201ctake back our city\u201d from a Muslim-led regime may have familiar overtones.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Cross-posted at Montclair SocioBlog. A\u00a0 picture \u2013 or a graph without data \u2013 is like anecdotal evidence.\u00a0 It can be very persuasive, but unless it\u2019s based on systematic evidence, it\u2019s just misleading. \u00a0Case in point: The FBI is teaching its counter-terrorism agents that Islam is an inherently violent religion.\u00a0 So are the followers of Islam.\u00a0 […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":258,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[304,42,133,309],"class_list":["post-39641","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-the-state","tag-religion","tag-violence","tag-warmilitary"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39641","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/258"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=39641"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39641\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":39647,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/39641\/revisions\/39647"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=39641"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=39641"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=39641"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}