{"id":26713,"date":"2010-08-27T10:36:08","date_gmt":"2010-08-27T15:36:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/?p=26713"},"modified":"2013-12-05T04:00:55","modified_gmt":"2013-12-05T09:00:55","slug":"catalogs-clothes-and-representation-plus-size-at-fredericks","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/2010\/08\/27\/catalogs-clothes-and-representation-plus-size-at-fredericks\/","title":{"rendered":"Catalogs, Clothes, and Representation: Plus Size at Frederick&#8217;s"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Miriam H. noticed that the &#8220;Plus Size&#8221; section of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fredericks.com\/plus\/plus,default,sc.html\" target=\"_blank\">Frederick&#8217;s of Hollywood website<\/a> uses very thin women to model the clothes, a phenomenon <a href=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/2010\/05\/08\/large-clothes-on-small-women-a-plus-size-marketing-mystery\/\" target=\"_self\">we&#8217;ve documented at Woman Within<\/a>, even as it boasts &#8220;SEXY AT EVERY SIZE&#8221; and &#8220;Styles in sizes up to 3X and 42F&#8221;:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/114.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-0\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26716\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/114.jpg\" width=\"562\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/114.jpg 1003w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/114-500x348.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 562px) 100vw, 562px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I browsed through all of the front pages for the categories at the left and noticed only one photograph of a woman that could pass as a &#8220;plus size&#8221; model:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/29.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-1\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26720\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/29.jpg\" width=\"463\" height=\"238\" srcset=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/29.jpg 766w, https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/29-500x257.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 463px) 100vw, 463px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This got me to wondering where these photos come from&#8230; and I have absolutely no answer to this question.\u00a0 I don&#8217;t know if Frederick&#8217;s arranges for these photos to be taken, if they hire a company to take these photos, if the manufacturers have the photos taken and give or sell them to Frederick&#8217;s.\u00a0 That might explain the single image with a plus-sized woman.\u00a0 It also seems to me that the photos vary quite a bit stylistically, suggesting that they were coming from different places.\u00a0 For example:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/34.jpg\" data-rel=\"lightbox-image-2\" data-rl_title=\"\" data-rl_caption=\"\" title=\"\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-26719\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/files\/2010\/08\/34.jpg\" width=\"378\" height=\"337\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I suspect, as well, that the reason all of the products are modeled by thin models is because only one photo of each product is produced (one with a thin model on the assumption that plus-sized models could not be used to sell to non-plus-sized people).\u00a0 That is, it would be twice as expensive to show two differently sized women in the garment, so women searching for plus-sized clothes don&#8217;t get to see the garment in their size.<\/p>\n<p>Then again, as I continue to think out loud, almost no women buying any of these clothes has a body that approximates that of the models in these photos.\u00a0 So this is not a non-representation issue for larger women, it&#8217;s a non-representation issue for almost all women.<\/p>\n<p>So this seems to me to be an issue of representation, but also an issue of the institutional and financial constraints of the fashion industry.\u00a0 Thoughts?\u00a0 Insights?\u00a0 Answers?<\/p>\n<span class=\"ft_signature\"><em><a href=\"http:\/\/lisa-wade.com\/\">Lisa Wade, PhD<\/a> is an Associate Professor at Tulane University. She is the author of <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/American-Hookup-New-Culture-Campus\/dp\/039328509X?ie=UTF8&amp;*Version*=1&amp;*entries*=0\">American Hookup<\/a><em>, a book about college sexual culture; a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Gender-Interactions-Institutions-Lisa-Wade\/dp\/0393931072?ie=UTF8&amp;*Version*=1&amp;*entries*=0\">textbook about gender<\/a>; and a forthcoming introductory text: <\/em><a href=\"https:\/\/lisa-wade.com\/intro\/\">Terrible Magnificent Sociology<\/a><em>.\u00a0You can follow her on <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/lisawade\">Twitter<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.instagram.com\/lisawadephd\/\">Instagram<\/a>.<\/em><\/span>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Miriam H. noticed that the &#8220;Plus Size&#8221; section of the Frederick&#8217;s of Hollywood website uses very thin women to model the clothes, a phenomenon we&#8217;ve documented at Woman Within, even as it boasts &#8220;SEXY AT EVERY SIZE&#8221; and &#8220;Styles in sizes up to 3X and 42F&#8221;: I browsed through all of the front pages for [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":51,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[218,244,225,36,55,2103,778],"class_list":["post-26713","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-bodies","tag-fat","tag-clothesfashion","tag-economics","tag-gender","tag-gender-bodies","tag-intersectionality"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26713","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/51"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=26713"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26713\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":26724,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/26713\/revisions\/26724"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=26713"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=26713"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/socimages\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=26713"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}