{"id":4944,"date":"2012-03-07T20:31:56","date_gmt":"2012-03-08T01:31:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/girlwpen.com\/?p=4944"},"modified":"2012-03-07T20:31:56","modified_gmt":"2012-03-08T01:31:56","slug":"vida-and-the-more-things-dont-change","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/2012\/03\/07\/vida-and-the-more-things-dont-change\/","title":{"rendered":"VIDA and The More Things Don&#8217;t Change"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I wasn&#8217;t part of this past weekend&#8217;s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.awpwriter.org\/conference\/\">mad AWP melee<\/a> but I was thinking about how the influx <a href=\"http:\/\/www.awpwriter.org\/conference\/2012reg.php\">of an estimated 10,000 attendees<\/a> filled with literary ambition creates its own kind of adrenaline and  angst-filled elixir.\u00a0 It led me to dig out a piece  I wrote for an online  magazine last spring, yet unfortunately, they never ran.\u00a0 I corresponded with several major female poets to ask what their experience of gender bias in the literary world has been.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/dictionary.cambridge.org\/dictionary\/british\/plus-ca-change-plus-c-est-la-meme-chose\">Plus ca change<\/a>, I want to say, but the irony is that for women publishing, so very little has.<\/p>\n<p>Just before this year&#8217;s AWP conference  began, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vidaweb.org\/the-count\">VIDA: Women in Literary Arts released this year&#8217;s &#8220;The  Count&#8221;<\/a> which starkly portrayed the woefully small pieces of the literary pie served up  by women writers in major literary sources.\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/therumpus.net\/2012\/02\/2011-vida-count\/\"> <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/therumpus.net\/2012\/02\/2011-vida-count\/\">I wish I could say much was different from last year&#8217;s  report<\/a>, but it&#8217;s not the case.\u00a0 One thing  that is rising, however,<a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/blogs\/pageviews\/2012\/03\/where-in-the-world-are-women-still-not-being-published-or-reviewed-says-vida\"> <\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/blogs\/pageviews\/2012\/03\/where-in-the-world-are-women-still-not-being-published-or-reviewed-says-vida\">is awareness of the gross discrepancies<\/a> about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.montevidayo.com\/?p=1521\">who  is published in the literary world.<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/www.montevidayo.com\/?p=1521\"> <\/a> Here is the article I wrote last year,  with excerpts from  several prominent writers I was thrilled to correspond with:<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/open.salon.com\/files\/vidauser1330823044.png\" alt=\"vidauser\" hspace=\"5px\" width=\"173\" height=\"192\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Although T.S. Eliot called April &#8220;the cruelest month,&#8221;   the first signs of spring bring the annual celebration of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poets.org\/page.php\/prmID\/41\">National Poetry Month<\/a>.\u00a0 This year, however, interest began to blossom early with the February release of <a href=\"http:\/\/vidaweb.org\/the-count-2010\">&#8220;The Count&#8221;<\/a> by the literary organization <a href=\"http:\/\/vidaweb.org\/about-vida\/mission\">VIDA: Women in the Literary Arts.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Founded by poet <a href=\"http:\/\/www.catemarvin.com\/bio.htm\">Cate Marvin<\/a> in 2009 during a moment <a href=\"http:\/\/vidaweb.tumblr.com\/post\/418679485\/email\"> she describes as an homage<\/a> to Tillie Olsen&#8217;s iconic story <a href=\"http:\/\/litmed.med.nyu.edu\/Annotation?action=view&amp;annid=11948\">&#8220;I Stand Here Ironing,&#8221;<\/a> Marvin, while folding her infant daughter&#8217;s clothes,   began to  contemplate why her panel on contemporary American women poets   had  been rejected for the competitive <a href=\"http:\/\/www.awpwriter.org\/conference\/\">national Associated Writing Program conference. <\/a> An email &#8220;seemed to blast right out of my head,&#8221; she writes, and   within  months her cri de coeur about lack of gender parity in the   literary  world had picked up a fierce momentum.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/vidaweb.tumblr.com\/post\/924402336\/oneyear\">A year later, VIDA is thriving,<\/a> with plans for a conference focusing on women&#8217;s writing, and moreover,  a   community that has the desire to shake up an imbalance that has  been   tolerated for too long.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/vidaweb.org\/the-count-2010\">The Count 2010<\/a> revealed stark pie charts that indict the top literary journals and    highly regarded magazines for their abysmal inclusion of women \u2014  whether   as contributors or authors reviewed or book reviewers.\u00a0  Immediately,   both outrage and &#8220;it&#8217;s about time&#8221; comments appeared as  some editors   went on the defensive about the results.\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/mwashburn.wordpress.com\/2011\/02\/24\/how-does-it-feel-to-be-a-problem-the-vida-study\/\">One humbled male reviewer called the study<\/a> &#8220;in many ways a blunt instrument&#8221; with the suggestion that breakdown   of  its statistics would further illuminate the nuances of bias that surface in, as he writes, &#8220;the staggering differences    between male and female representation.&#8221;\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.slate.com\/id\/2283605\/\">Meghan O&#8217;Rourke on Slate lauds the study<\/a> but adds, &#8220;a task VIDA might usefully take on is a breakdown, by gender, of the genres reviewed and represented.&#8221;\u00a0 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bookslut.com\/blog\/archives\/2011_02.php#017217\">Shock, debate and denial<\/a> quickly raged in many literary sources with a mix of defensiveness and admirable <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.forward.com\/sisterhood-blog\/135583\/#ixzz1GulMpj8o\">get-to-the-bottom-of-this persistence. <\/a> But, as O&#8217;Rourke tackles, the fundamental question behind the thin pie slices served up for women is, Why?<\/p>\n<p>The   answer, of course, is complex.\u00a0 The oft-cited  information  that women  enroll in MFA programs at an equal, if not  higher, rate than  men is clear, as is the fact that more women buy  books in the  United  States, and are likely to be readers.\u00a0 But  breaking into the  journals  and magazines that can &#8220;make&#8221; a writer&#8217;s  career by laying a  direct  pipeline to a high-profile agent or  a publishing contract, or can   compound the cultural capital of a positive  review into a prestigious   grant or even tenure-track job interview,  seems to be about something   else \u2014 the tactics of how one gains ground  in the po&#8217;biz world or   becomes part of the g\/literati.<\/p>\n<p>As talk swirled  around the  indisputable  net effects of the VIDA stats, attention began to focus on  the subtler  issues surrounding how ambition and  promotion are  gendered. Blogosphere  debate raged around topics such as  how networks  of male influence hold  impact; the subtle, but real,  assumptions  behind who deserves a job;  how fame is won; as well as  the intangible  but real sense that putting  oneself forward as a writer  requires a  certain kind of brash ego more  often cultivated by men.\u00a0  And while  most editors responded with culpable  awareness, some offered  that the  flip solution of tokenism   doesn&#8217;t solve the root problem.<\/p>\n<p>The topics raised afresh by VIDA, unfortunately, are hardly new.\u00a0 Just four years ago, an essay entitled <a href=\"http:\/\/docs.google.com\/viewer?a=v&amp;q=cache:6vDRoL91n3AJ:humanities.uchicago.edu\/orgs\/review\/CR_532_Spahr_Young.pdf+juliana+spahr+stephanie+young&amp;hl=en&amp;gl=us&amp;pid=bl&amp;srcid=ADGEEShlCsk5tDU7-FcKmt-SviTPsrmCJYlubFv4PadwD3nzaUwpb2105aWFssMWCFf2tAfPSWn6rJlXZenDp154PCjl89qd6fMe7lF57DfJfBTKAchgkRtTz-4oIwttPy0CoLdXfv3f&amp;sig=AHIEtbQx_NbF_jIc6TXI3e9pzu1AfmXuKQ\">&#8220;Numbers Trouble&#8221; co-written by Juliana Spahr and Stephanie Young in <em>The Chicago Review<\/em><\/a> targeted gender representation in the experimental poetry world. The    two women counted bylines by women within anthologies, journals, major    awards and blogs, confirming a rather dismal ratio.\u00a0 The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/harriet\/2007\/11\/numbers-trouble-via-the-chicago-review\/\">blog site of the venerable Poetry Foundation responded swiftly<\/a>, in part, trying to parse the social conditions <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/harriet\/2007\/11\/numbers-trouble\/#more\">surrounding women and time, caring for children, encouragement of ambition, cultivation of career,<\/a> and its much-vaunted <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/poetrymagazine\/toc.html\">Poetry Magazine<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/journal\/article.html?id=1778\">had even commissioned an essay years before (in 2003)<\/a> trying to root out why women are represented in such unequal  numbers.\u00a0   As Spahr and Young write in &#8220;Numbers Trouble&#8221;: &#8220;We are also  suspicious   of relying too heavily on the idea that fixing the numbers  means we  have fixed something. We could have 50 percent women in  everything and  we  still have a poetry that does nothing, that is  anti-feminist.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Spahr  and Young also counted women&#8217;s bylines at a variety of small,  independent  presses and hardly found parity there,  although &#8220;University  presses are  a little more skewed to gender  equity.&#8221; But even <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wesleyan.edu\/wespress\/\">Wesleyan  University Press,<\/a> which they point out is known for publishing mainly  women, &#8220;has  90  books by men and seventy by women (44 percent); a better  number, but   far from &#8216;mainly.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/open.salon.com\/files\/abacus1330823229.jpg\" alt=\"abacus\" hspace=\"5px\" width=\"169\" height=\"160\" \/><\/div>\n<p>I corresponded with four poets of different generations who published with <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wesleyan.edu\/wespress\/\">Wesleyan<\/a>,    and they each came back to the idea that it&#8217;s not a question of   quality  that keeps them from being published&#8211;it&#8217;s systemic bias.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/bio\/alice-notley\">Here&#8217;s poet Alice Notley<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As   long as there is inequality between the sexes in  regard to political   and economic power, women will not be taken as  seriously as men. &#8230;  Did  you really think that 50,000 years of  inequality (historically   speaking&#8211;I\u2019m going back to the caves) was  going to be rectified in a   decade or two?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The concept that these present-day issues are rooted in centuries-old inequality is also echoed <a href=\"http:\/\/www.joyharjo.com\/Home.html\">by multi-genre writer Joy Harjo<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There is everpresent sexism that has never ended. &#8230; The inequity began when God was pronounced male.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notley,   who travels closer to the experimental margins of the poetry  world   rather than within its mainstream, also pointed out that not  every poet   is concerned with publishing in the more visible and  status-loaded   publications VIDA highlighted in its survey:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My part   of the poetry world is too outrageous for these  publications anyway:   It\u2019s utterly free and inventive with form, is  often queer or bizarrely   sexed or even unsexed and anti-sexed.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Notley, who   doesn&#8217;t teach, believes that those who invest in the  prestige of the   po&#8217;biz world are more invested in status and poetic  reputation rather   than, in her view, poetry itself.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/epc.buffalo.edu\/authors\/willis\/\">Poet Elizabeth Willis,<\/a> the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wesleyan.edu\/templates\/dept\/engl\/skeleton_faculty.htt?function=f1&amp;department=ENGL&amp;faculty=ewillis\">Shapiro-Silverberg Associate Professor of Creative Writing at Wesleyan<\/a>, however, sees the effect of gender inequity within the teaching world as well&#8211;where many poets make their living. She writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Think   of women writers working in the academy who are  consciously or   unconsciously evaluated according to the perceived  importance or   prestige of the venues that publish them. The effect is  lower salaries,   lower rates of tenure, less time off.\u00a0 If, at the same  time, male   colleagues are more likely to appear in more prestigious  venues and   receive more prestigious grants, the result is an even  higher workload   for female peers&#8211;and an expectation that women will  take care of less   prestigious tasks: more note-taking, less  decision-making.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yet, she points out,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I   think inequities remain unseen and are largely not  &#8216;accepted&#8217; as   legitimate. Occasionally I&#8217;ve heard from male poets that  there are   actually far more opportunities for women because there are  presses,   magazines, and listservs that are devoted exclusively to  women&#8217;s work   and women&#8217;s issues. &#8230; If it&#8217;s true that there are more  opportunities   for women, it also seems true those opportunities not  really taken   seriously by the literary community at large&#8211;that they  don&#8217;t have the   same kind of cultural capital.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.rachelzucker.net\/books\/\">Rachel Zucker, author of several books with Wesleyan,<\/a> (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.rachelzucker.net\/books\/homebirth\/\">as well as other presses<\/a>), <a href=\"http:\/\/www.rachelzucker.net\/about\/extended-bio\/\">offers another angle:<\/a><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>My   poetry world seems to be full, overbrimming with  women. I think that  my  perspective on this is somewhat skewed because,  in a way, I&#8217;ve made  my  own community. My co-editor Arielle Greenberg  and I read hundreds  of  first and second books by women in preparation  for editing our  anthology  <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.womenpoetsonmentorship.com\/\">Women Poets on Mentorship: Efforts and Affections<\/a> <\/em>and    got to know the poetry of two generations of women really well. I  went   back and read Rich, Ostriker, Du Plessis&#8211;for a while I was so  steeped   in women&#8217;s poetry and writing about poetry I forgot about the  men all   together. Now, it&#8217;s true, very true, that these communities  I&#8217;m talking   about grew up out of a sense of inequality or as a direct  result of   oppression, sexism and misogyny.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Zucker,  like the  others, reiterates that the literary community  feels the  effects of  still being within a &#8220;deeply patriarchal culture&#8221;  and she  writes, &#8220;I  think the discrepancies in poetry are just part of  the  descrepancies in  the larger culture.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>All four poets advocated  working towards  changing the culture at  large \u2014 not just the tally  sheet. Notley  comments, &#8220;I would like to see  women approach politics  much more  analytically \u2026 where power  structures mirrored in the poetry  world are  in process.&#8221; All four had  at least one story of being told  they were  receiving attention &#8220;just  because&#8221; they were female, and  unconscious  gender bias that seemed to  fly out of male colleagues&#8217;  mouths before  they realized what they were  saying.\u00a0 Importantly, each  also reported  having at least one male  editor or reviewer who publicly  championed her  work.<\/p>\n<p>All were aware of the more nuanced aspects  of systemic  gender  inequity, but how to solve this wasn&#8217;t always  clear.\u00a0 Willis  notes that  men often have an easier time with  self-promotion.\u00a0 She adds:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>If I&#8217;m  looking at it systemically rather  than personally I would say  that  since administrators and editors are  at this point in history,  still  more likely to be male, other men are  more likely to be invited to  have  a drink with them, or join them on  the basketball court. It   informalizes the power dynamic, makes it more  permeable&#8211;also makes it   harder to see. \u00a0So it becomes a feeling  women get about not being   included in the &#8216;real&#8217; conversation even  when they&#8217;re included in the   formal or official conversation. And it&#8217;s  not just a &#8216;feeling.&#8217;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/open.salon.com\/files\/bookwomen1330824779.jpg\" alt=\"bookwomen\" hspace=\"5px\" width=\"177\" height=\"216\" \/><\/div>\n<p>Zucker   notes, &#8220;I know so many women whose first books came out around  the  same  time that they have their first kid and they couldn&#8217;t do  readings  (or  very few).&#8221; She adds, &#8220;Also, I think women send out work  less  than men  do.&#8221;\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.joyharjo.com\/Home.html\"> Harjo comments <\/a>on    the politics beyond gender, but around race, as well: &#8220;After the    efforts of feminism in the seventies I saw a trend toward inclusion.    Though often, as with indigenous writers, we were were\/are ghettoized    and there were\/are quotas. \u00a0I see this all of the worlds in which I    labor: poetry, music and theater. What I have noticed in the last few    years, that any pretense of inclusion has fallen away.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>What is  an  ambitious female poet to do?\u00a0 All four returned to a  baseline of   putting out the best work you can, writing poems because  there is deep   love for the craft. Notley offers a counternarrative:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The main thing  is  to love poetry and, of course, to have talent to  begin with.\u00a0 I  mean  talent, which is not the same thing as a desire for  a career.\u00a0  Then,  publish yourself; publish your friends; get published  by your  friends.\u00a0  This is what the guys being complained about do (it  is the  essence of  the New York Review of Books).\u00a0 If you do it in  underground  format, so  what?\u00a0 But, most of all, Care About Poetry!<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Willis  also advocates forging a new path.\u00a0  She writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Own your  authority  even when it&#8217;s not recognized. You gain  more, ultimately, by  insisting  on your own rules of engagement. It IS  possible to start  your own  magazine; it IS possible to compose a great  life-work without  the  approbation of establishment venues. Value the  editors and poets  who  support your work, and invest in situations where  the work and   attention are sustaining and reciprocal. Document  everything you do.   Support your friends, and when you encounter writers  whose work speaks   to you, help promote each other. It&#8217;s much easier on  the body and  makes  it more likely that you&#8217;ll be writing the work you  want to write  &#8212;  not writing for a marketplace that&#8217;s looking the other  way \u2026 I&#8217;d  like  to see a stronger commitment to a progressive politics of    representation, a recognition that justice is process, and an    acknowledgment that we haven&#8217;t yet arrived.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Zucker insists on   shifting the po&#8217;biz world&#8217;s parameters.\u00a0 She  writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Make your own   community. Be clear about what your priorities  are. Think not only  about  what you want to get from the poetry world  but what you want to<em> give. <\/em>I&#8217;d   like to see poetry to be a  community building force, a political  force,  a reservoir of humanity.  Is that too grand? Some MFA programs  encourage  pubic service (NYU is  quite good at this). I think all of  them should.  And I think students  should think about <em>why <\/em>they write not just where they want to get published.<em> <\/em><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Harjo   offers her own prescription for herself to others, &#8220;I write  the best   possible poetry, music, plays &#8212; in a kind of dance between  wildness  and  utmost discipline. I keep going &#8212; as my people did on the  Trail  of  Tears&#8221; and reiterates, &#8220;It&#8217;s important we stand up to speak,  as two  of  my most beloved teachers, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poetryfoundation.org\/bio\/audre-lorde\">Audre Lorde<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.poets.org\/poet.php\/prmPID\/49\">Adrienne Rich<\/a> remind us. It&#8217;s important that we celebrate each other.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I wasn&#8217;t part of this past weekend&#8217;s\u00a0mad AWP melee but I was thinking about how the influx of an estimated 10,000 attendees filled with literary ambition creates its own kind of adrenaline and angst-filled elixir.\u00a0 It led me to dig out a piece I wrote for an online magazine last spring, yet unfortunately, they never [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1912,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[39268,21533,1528,21941],"class_list":["post-4944","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-book-publishing","tag-literary-life","tag-sexism","tag-writing-life"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4944","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1912"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4944"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4944\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4944"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4944"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4944"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}