{"id":2083,"date":"2011-02-05T15:24:29","date_gmt":"2011-02-05T20:24:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/girlwpen.com\/?p=2083"},"modified":"2011-02-05T15:24:29","modified_gmt":"2011-02-05T20:24:29","slug":"nice-work-review-of-stirring-reviews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/girlwpen\/2011\/02\/05\/nice-work-review-of-stirring-reviews\/","title":{"rendered":"NICE WORK: Review of &#8216;Stirring&#8217; Reviews"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.stephaniecoontz.com\/images\/stephanie_color.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/www.stephaniecoontz.com\/images\/stephanie_color.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"210\" height=\"235\" \/><\/a>Here&#8217;s a review of (some of the many!) reviews of Stephanie Coontz&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Strange-Stirring-Feminine-Mystique-American\/dp\/0465002005\"><em>A Strange Stirring: The Feminine Mystique and American Women at the Dawn of the 1960s<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span><em>. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Was Coontz Dissing or Loving TFM?(Answer: Neither)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB10001424052748704735304576058433039484542.html\">Wall Street Journal online<\/a><\/span><\/span>, Melanie Kirkpatrick notes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Ms. Coontz is clearly a fan of the book, and she quotes many early readers who said that <em><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.h-net.org\/%7Ehst203\/documents\/friedan1.html\">The Feminine Mystique<\/a><\/span><\/span><\/em> gave them the courage to pursue their dreams.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>She highlights some of the debunking that Coontz&#8217;s book accomplishes, such as <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"..\/?p=2065\">the myths<\/a><\/span><\/span> that <em>TFM<\/em> was man-bashing or that Friedan was an apolitical housewife. It is a nice, uncritical connection to the story of <em>TFM<\/em> and <em>A Strange Stirring.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>A puzzling contrast was in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2011\/01\/21\/AR2011012102666.html\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><em>Washington Post<\/em><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"> (included in the print edition)<\/span><\/span><\/a>, where Elaine Showalter is troubled by Coontz&#8217;s story of her own (ambivalent) relationship to <em>TFM <\/em>because it didn&#8217;t match Showalter&#8217;s positive experience. Coontz, who isn&#8217;t one to reply to reviews too often, responded to the <em>Post <\/em>in <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2011\/01\/28\/AR2011012805944_2.html\">a letter to the editor.<\/a><\/span><\/span> In it, Coontz points out that while in 1963 Showalter was going through a very similar experience to that of Friedan (young, married with children), Coontz, though just a few years younger, was still at college, not in the job market, not in the domestic world, and thus the themes of <em>TFM<\/em> did not touch her personally (the way, for example, the civil rights movement did, which was where Coontz focused her stunningly intense sixties-style activist energies.)<\/p>\n<p>The resolution between those first two reviews\u2014was Coontz dissing or loving <em>TFM<\/em>?&#8211;came in Rebecca Traister&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/01\/23\/books\/review\/Traister-t.html?pagewanted=all\"><em>New York Times Sunday Book Review.<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span> Traister recounts Coontz&#8217;s personal journey with <em>TFM<\/em> and how, along with her concerns for those women whose experiences were not represented by <em>TFM<\/em>, she still came to value it. Traister writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Halfway through <em>A Strange Stirring<\/em>, the social historian Stephanie Coontz \u2014 parsing the reception of <em>The Feminine Mystique<\/em>, Betty Friedan\u2019s 1963 examination of middle-class female repression and despair \u2014 confesses to feeling some ambivalence over Friedan\u2019s project, and hence her own.<\/p>\n<p>Acknowledging the working-class and minority women left out of Friedan\u2019s best seller, Coontz admits that while it is \u201cpointless to construct a hierarchy of who hurt more,\u201d her own initial reaction to Friedan\u2019s elite scope \u201cwas to dismiss the pain of the middle-class housewives as less \u2018real\u2019 than that of their working-class sisters.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Traister then describes how Coontz herself reconciles the \u201cdissing vs  loving\u201d issue, by recounting a  dialogue Coontz had had with <em>TFM<\/em>-loving colleague.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It didn\u2019t matter, [Coontz&#8217;s colleague had said to her], that the women Friedan wrote about weren\u2019t \u201crepresentative either in size or even aspirations of most American women of their time.\u201d What mattered was that they had spent \u201cyears of their lives with their noses pressed against the proverbial glass \u2014 looking in at a world that they would never be a part of.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For a Traister personal bonus, the <em>New York Times<\/em> online includes an <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com\/2011\/01\/21\/reviewer-spotlight-rebecca-traister\/?ref=review\">interview with Rebecca Traister<\/a><\/span><\/span> about her own reflections on <em>The Feminine Mystique.<\/em> The interview highlights Traister&#8217;s connection with Coontz&#8217;s ambivalence, and offers her reflections on <em>TFM<\/em>. Such reflections on <em>TFM<\/em> across multiple generations (and microgenerations like Showalter vs Coontz)spurred on by <em>SS<\/em> are among my favorite benefits of this <em>Strange Stirring <\/em>phenomenon, as you can see in my own <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"..\/?p=2044\">reflection and interviews<\/a><\/span><\/span> with two men in their seventies here at <a href=\"http:\/\/girlwpen.com\/\"><em>Girlwpen<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Reviewers&#8217; reflections on <em>SS <\/em>and <em>TFM <\/em>repeatedly engaged their own stories. When you read the reviews of <em>A Strange Stirring<\/em>, you&#8217;ll see<em> <\/em>how  people write from their personal as well as their intellectual  perspectives&#8211;sometimes without total self-awareness, but still, it  reminds me of how much that linking of personal, political, and  intellectual is part of what feminism is all about, what it gives us.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are the uses of a book? (Answer: They are totemic, but that doesn&#8217;t tell us whether they cause movements&#8230;like the Women&#8217;s Movement)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>At <a href=\"http:\/\/msmagazine.com\/blog\/blog\/2011\/01\/05\/a-look-back-at-the-feminine-mystique\/\"><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><em>Ms Magazine<\/em><\/span><\/span><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"> online<\/span><\/span><\/a> Carol King focused on historical context (\u201cIf you were to pick up <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.powells.com\/biblio\/17-9780393322576-4?&amp;PID=31605\" target=\"_blank\">The Feminine Mystique<\/a><\/span><\/span> today, I suspect you\u2019d wonder what all the fuss was about\u201d) and writes appreciatively of the contextualizing of the <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.amctv.com\/originals\/madmen\/\"><em>Mad Men<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span> type experience of many of the women depicted in <em>TFM<\/em>, and those whom Coontz interviewed for <em>SS<\/em>.  She concludes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There would have been a Women\u2019s Movement without <em>The Feminine Mystique<\/em>, but there would have been holes where those women described in the book should have been.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A variation on King&#8217;s point was in <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/arts\/critics\/books\/2011\/01\/24\/110124crbo_books_menand\">Louis Menand&#8217;s essay<\/a><\/span><\/span> in <em>The New Yorker. <\/em>The essay provides a great review of many of the women&#8217;s movement publications around the time of <em>TFM\u2014<\/em>which I had already read about in Coontz&#8217;s book. But the best part is where Menand argues \u201cWhy the Women&#8217;s Movement Needed Betty Friedan.\u201d He picks an argument with Coontz around her assessment of the American reception of De Beauvoir&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.marxists.org\/reference\/subject\/ethics\/de-beauvoir\/2nd-sex\/introduction.htm\"><em>The Second Sex<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span> and also with her contention that the cultural shift towards the Women&#8217;s Movement preceded <em>TFM<\/em>, rather than followed it. But he makes Coontz&#8217;s case any way, as well as a wonderful case for the value of books as a cultural intervention. Here&#8217;s how: Menand includes <em>TFM<\/em> with several other books like Rachel Carson&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Silent_Spring\"><em>Silent Spring<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span> that made a difference because, as he says, \u201cbooks became totems.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>These are books whose significance exceeds anything they actually said. For many people, it doesn\u2019t even matter what they said or why they were written. What matters is that, when the world turned, they were there.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Yes! The books were there for people to point to to express the ideas that they were already starting to have.<\/p>\n<p>In <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.washingtonpost.com\/wp-dyn\/content\/article\/2011\/01\/07\/AR2011010706502.html\">Bitch Magazine<\/a><\/span><\/span> Eryn Loeb wrote a delightful reflection on the imagery of <em>The Feminine Mystique<\/em> (very <em>Mad Men,<\/em> very old issues of <em>Good Housekeeping). <\/em>The images help to conjure the myths of womanhood and the myths of <em>TFM<\/em> from the earlier era. Then, she draws our attention to Coontz&#8217;s skillful work on decomposing those myths\u2014and links this myth-busting to Coontz&#8217;s body of work, especially <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;ved=0CCAQFjAA&amp;url=http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Way-We-Never-Were-Nostalgia\/dp\/0465090974&amp;rct=j&amp;q=the%20way%20we%20never%20were&amp;ei=o5dMTfmQAcX6lweStYkZ&amp;usg=AFQjCNEbOu-tJFW-qAyc7AjTy5LWGiqD6A&amp;sig2=gX8dSOnOUBqGwu_unBPUvA&amp;cad=rja\"><em>The Way We Never Were<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span><em> <\/em>and <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CBcQFjAA&amp;url=http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Marriage-History-Obedience-Intimacy-Conquered\/dp\/067003407X&amp;rct=j&amp;q=marriage%20a%20history&amp;ei=ypdMTcjgC8SAlAe1trw2&amp;usg=AFQjCNGe-sVqSycSDZ6I_BBgxQYVeTPdAQ&amp;sig2=fzauI9Jf-QRtAHx5Ug1-zw&amp;cad=rja\"><em>Marriage, A History<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span>. Loeb concludes with another important point. See, Coontz, like people Coontz interviewed, didn&#8217;t even realize that she hadn&#8217;t read the book \u201cback in the day.\u201d Still, it had stuck with her, and many others. Loeb notes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The book\u2019s legendary status had eclipsed its actual content. In some ways, this is a triumph: Friedan\u2019s salvo for women\u2019s liberation has been so effectively distilled and shared in the 47 years since its release that there\u2019s no need to actually sit down and read 350-plus pages. As long as we get the gist of it, do the specifics really matter?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><strong>Where are women\u2014and men\u2014today? (Answer: \u201cIn it together\u201d)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tracy Clark-Flory&#8217;s interview with Stephanie Coontz for <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.salon.com\/life\/feature\/2011\/01\/12\/coontz_qa\/index.html\">Salon.com<\/a><\/span><\/span> focuses on \u201cWhy Feminism Was Good for Marriage.\u201d The interview highlights links between growing gender equality and improvements in marriage, adding a coda to Coontz&#8217;s <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.google.com\/url?sa=t&amp;source=web&amp;cd=1&amp;sqi=2&amp;ved=0CBcQFjAA&amp;url=http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Marriage-History-Obedience-Intimacy-Conquered\/dp\/067003407X&amp;rct=j&amp;q=marriage%20a%20history&amp;ei=ypdMTcjgC8SAlAe1trw2&amp;usg=AFQjCNGe-sVqSycSDZ6I_BBgxQYVeTPdAQ&amp;sig2=fzauI9Jf-QRtAHx5Ug1-zw&amp;cad=rja\"><em>Marriage,A History<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span>. The interview links up what Coontz wrote in <em>SS<\/em> to how she sees gender and feminism today. Message: A big piece of it has to do with keeping men\u2014working men, caregiving men, and really all men\u2014in the equation.<\/p>\n<p>And if you want to hear more of Coontz on where are men and women today\u2014in relation to what she wrote about in <em>A Strange Stirring\u2014<\/em>listen to her interview on <span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/2011\/01\/26\/132931581\/stirring-up-the-feminine-mystique-47-years-later\"><em>Fresh Air with Terry Gross<\/em><\/a><\/span><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;there&#8217;s more: I can only imagine what will be the lesson from Coontz&#8217;s interview on <em>The Colbert Report<\/em> later this month (slated for 2\/23\/11). But I bet it will have something to do with men and women \u201cthese days.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>What else? (Answer: It keeps coming!)<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll keep adding links here to other reviews and interviews, but here are a few more I found useful:<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hnn.us\/articles\/135686.html\">History News Network: \u201cPuncturing Betty Friedan, but Not the Mystique: An Interview with Stephanie Coontz\u201d<\/a><\/span><\/span>: This engaging interview gives more details about how Coontz did her research.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #000080\"><span style=\"text-decoration: underline\"><a href=\"http:\/\/feministing.com\/2011\/01\/29\/the-feministing-five-stephanie-coontz\/\">The Feministing Five<\/a><\/span><\/span>: Stephanie Coontz: Chloe Angyal presents a thoughtful, more personal interview with Coontz.<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;<a href=\"..\/?page_id=31\" target=\"_blank\">Virginia Rutter<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Here&#8217;s a review of (some of the many!) reviews of Stephanie Coontz&#8217;s A Strange Stirring: The Feminine Mystique and American Women at the Dawn of the 1960s. 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