{"id":1376,"date":"2015-07-28T14:46:44","date_gmt":"2015-07-28T14:46:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/families\/?p=303"},"modified":"2015-07-28T14:46:44","modified_gmt":"2015-07-28T14:46:44","slug":"harry-met-sally-meets-early-america","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/ccf\/2015\/07\/28\/harry-met-sally-meets-early-america\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;When Harry Met Sally&#8221; Meets Early America"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/families\/files\/2015\/07\/Good_Founding-revised.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright  wp-image-304\" src=\"https:\/\/thesocietypages.org\/families\/files\/2015\/07\/Good_Founding-revised-199x300.jpg\" alt=\"Good_Founding revised\" width=\"118\" height=\"178\" \/><\/a>In the 1989 cult classic movie <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0098635\/\"><em>When Harry Met Sally<\/em><\/a>, Harry says that in friendships between men and women, \u201cthe sex part always gets in the way.\u201d This was precisely my concern when I began writing about friendships between men and women in the early American republic. How could I convince modern readers steeped in the <em>When Harry Met Sally<\/em> claim that friendships between men and women were impossible that the opposite was true, even 200 years ago?<\/p>\n<p>In my book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Founding-Friendships-between-American-Republic\/dp\/0199376174\"><em>Founding Friendships: Friendships Between Men and Women in the Early American Republic<\/em><\/a>, I argue that heterosocial friendships were not just possible, but important and meaningful relationships that challenge the ideology that marriage was the supreme place for adult fulfillment. Initially, I had hoped to skirt the issue of sexuality, but that was impossible. Sex <em>did<\/em> get in the way of these friendships, though not in the way you might think. The problem was more often with public misunderstandings about whether men and women were friends or lovers. It was a constant battle to shape perceptions. At another level, sex\u2014or at least physical intimacy or simply flirtation\u2014was a constant specter in these friendships.<\/p>\n<p>I define heterosocial friendships as \u201caffectionate, reciprocal relationships that the historical actors themselves cast in terms of a friendship\u201d between unrelated men and women, with the stipulation that \u201csexual activity does not factor into this definition of friendship.\u201d Historians simply cannot know what happened in a private room in the past. We do know from letters and diaries, however, that friends could express their affection in what sounds to modern ears like sensual or romantic terms and share physical intimacy.<\/p>\n<p>One of the key resources for untangling the role of sexuality in these friendships was a 1989 article by sociologist Donald O\u2019Meara titled \u201c<a href=\"http:\/\/link.springer.com\/article\/10.1007%2FBF00289102\">Cross-Sex Friendship: Four Basic Challenges of an Ignored Relationship<\/a>.\u201d I was stunned by how closely his observations of relationships of the 1980s applied to the friendships from the past that I examined. Friends had to navigate their shared understanding of the status of their relationship\u2014was this a courtship, an affair, a friendship?\u2014as well as the public perception. While the stakes for misunderstanding were higher 200 years ago, when gossip about a woman\u2019s sexuality could destroy her reputation and marriage prospects, similar concerns have been remarkably persistent.<\/p>\n<p>Some of my historical examples of the role of physical and sexual intimacy in heterosocial friendships sound familiar to modern readers. In 1834, Elizabeth Peabody recorded a conversation with her friend Horace Mann about \u201cthe difference between love and friendship\u201d and where their relationship stood. Then there were teenage girls like Patty Rogers in 1785 who struggled to understand their feelings for men in their lives. Patty was determined when it came to one male friend: \u201cI only feel a friendship for him! I\u2019ll steel my heart to every sentiment of Love!\u201d As O\u2019Meara points out, there are different types of love which can be hard to distinguish and identify, and it can be hard for friends to come to a shared understanding. This continued to be the case for Patty, who protested when the same man put his hand on her breast one night. She told him it was inappropriate, but he protested \u201cNo, not between two friends!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>A major source of difficulty for historical figures and contemporary historians is the lack of clear norms for the conduct of heterosocial friendships. O\u2019Meara argues that such friendships have \u201ca deviant status in American culture\u201d and \u201cthe norms for cross-sex friendship remain unclear.\u201d The situation was little different in early America, despite the ubiquity of conduct books prescribing behavior. The primary difference is that the language early Americans used sounds romantic to us today but was understood quite differently in the past.<\/p>\n<p>All of this meant that readers brought their own assumptions, beliefs, and ideologies to my book. One reviewer on <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/23027663-founding-friendships\"><em>Goodreads<\/em><\/a> argued that the book was not actually about friendships, because \u201cthe vast majority of these friendships seem to wind up with somebody&#8217;s hands up somebody else&#8217;s petticoats.\u201d At the opposite end of the spectrum, writer Thomas Fleming published a <a href=\"http:\/\/historynewsnetwork.org\/article\/159632\">piece on <em>History News Network<\/em><\/a> positing that the book could be \u201cthe answer to our hookup culture\u201d because the book showed that heterosocial friendships were possible, entirely absent of sex.<\/p>\n<p>This major divide in reception of the book has been largely a divide between lay readers and scholars. Scholars, now steeped in a literature of sexuality that has usefully complicated notions of what relationships were possible in the past, readily accepted that heterosocial friendships were possible. Outside of academia, there seems to be a narrower lens for reading these relationships. Understanding that men and women could be friends hundreds of years ago, long before women\u2019s liberation and acceptance of premarital sex, is important for Americans today. Along with the changed attitudes towards and legal climate for same-sex romantic relationships, we have greater possibilities for cross-sex friendships: The possibilities for varied types of love, sexuality, and fulfillment are broader than most people imagine.<\/p>\n<p><em>Cassandra Good is a <\/em><em>historian, writer, and teacher of early America. She received her PhD in history from the University of Pennsylvania and is Associate Editor of the Papers of James Monroe at the University of Mary Washington.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>LINKS:<\/p>\n<p><em>Founding Friendships<\/em>: http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Founding-Friendships-between-American-Republic\/dp\/0199376174<\/p>\n<p>Goodreads: https:\/\/www.goodreads.com\/book\/show\/23027663-founding-friendships<\/p>\n<p>O\u2019Meara article: http:\/\/link.springer.com\/article\/10.1007%2FBF00289102<\/p>\n<p>HNN article: http:\/\/historynewsnetwork.org\/article\/159632<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In the 1989 cult classic movie When Harry Met Sally, Harry says that in friendships between men and women, \u201cthe sex part always gets in the way.\u201d This was precisely my concern when I began writing about friendships between men and women in the early American republic. 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