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	<title>Comments on: Academics, Emotions, and the Head Shot</title>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bagelsan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Aug 2013 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d hazard that more men would directly face the camera, while more women would be turned slightly to one side or the other; we see that kind of positioning in popular media (movie posters, ads, etc.) so I&#039;d guess that men and women would pick up on how they &quot;should&quot; pose based on the poses they&#039;ve seen in the media.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d hazard that more men would directly face the camera, while more women would be turned slightly to one side or the other; we see that kind of positioning in popular media (movie posters, ads, etc.) so I&#8217;d guess that men and women would pick up on how they &#8220;should&#8221; pose based on the poses they&#8217;ve seen in the media.</p>
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		<title>By: boomheadshot</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[boomheadshot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder what you&#039;d make of these, then.

http://academicheadshots.tumblr.com/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what you&#8217;d make of these, then.</p>
<p><a href="http://academicheadshots.tumblr.com/" rel="nofollow">http://academicheadshots.tumblr.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Aug 2013 01:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doing the combinatorial math, there are roughly 1.4e34 combinations possible; on average, 2.7 non-western colleges appear in each of them.


2 out of 30 is about 7%, which is statistically significant using the standard definition.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doing the combinatorial math, there are roughly 1.4e34 combinations possible; on average, 2.7 non-western colleges appear in each of them.</p>
<p>2 out of 30 is about 7%, which is statistically significant using the standard definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Umlud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umlud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 22:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your end point is right. However, I was intending to talk about individual odds at each of the 30 random selections, and - rereading what I wrote - I really made a hash out of trying to explain my intention, and your stats are far superior than mine. Cheers!


In any case, even 1 university out of 30 does not really put non-Western universities into the running of even being statistically relevant. Indeed, if they were more relevant, it would likely invalidate the premise of the study, since the overriding characteristic of the East Asian profile photo is a straight-on photo, and - if more East Asian universities &lt;i&gt;were&lt;/i&gt; included - the justification of discarding a larger percentage of photos would have been more questionable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your end point is right. However, I was intending to talk about individual odds at each of the 30 random selections, and &#8211; rereading what I wrote &#8211; I really made a hash out of trying to explain my intention, and your stats are far superior than mine. Cheers!</p>
<p>In any case, even 1 university out of 30 does not really put non-Western universities into the running of even being statistically relevant. Indeed, if they were more relevant, it would likely invalidate the premise of the study, since the overriding characteristic of the East Asian profile photo is a straight-on photo, and &#8211; if more East Asian universities <i>were</i> included &#8211; the justification of discarding a larger percentage of photos would have been more questionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;So, you immediately start with only 9% of universities among the top 200
 as belonging non-Western cultures, and the likelihood of any one of 
them being chosen is (at best) 18/171 (which is the likelihood of a 
non-Western university to be chosen as the 30th random university, given
 no non-Western university had been chosen before).


Your probabilites are wrong; the odds that zero of the 18 non-western universities would be chosen out of 30 selections is 182/200 (the odds that none would be selected as the first random selection), times 181/199 (odds that none would be selected second...)


This reduces to (182!/151!) / (200!/169!) after 30 selections, or about a 4% chance that none of them were selected, leaving a 96% chance that one of those 18 schools was included by the random sampling. 



The point about excluding non-English languages still applies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;So, you immediately start with only 9% of universities among the top 200<br />
 as belonging non-Western cultures, and the likelihood of any one of<br />
them being chosen is (at best) 18/171 (which is the likelihood of a<br />
non-Western university to be chosen as the 30th random university, given<br />
 no non-Western university had been chosen before).</p>
<p>Your probabilites are wrong; the odds that zero of the 18 non-western universities would be chosen out of 30 selections is 182/200 (the odds that none would be selected as the first random selection), times 181/199 (odds that none would be selected second&#8230;)</p>
<p>This reduces to (182!/151!) / (200!/169!) after 30 selections, or about a 4% chance that none of them were selected, leaving a 96% chance that one of those 18 schools was included by the random sampling. </p>
<p>The point about excluding non-English languages still applies.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/08/21/academics-emotions-and-the-head-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-577404</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Plus most people are right-handed, and it&#039;s far harder to take a picture of the left side of the head with the right hand; does left-handedness correlate with left-facedness in facebook?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus most people are right-handed, and it&#8217;s far harder to take a picture of the left side of the head with the right hand; does left-handedness correlate with left-facedness in facebook?</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2013/08/21/academics-emotions-and-the-head-shot/comment-page-1/#comment-577403</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Aug 2013 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is the correlation stronger or weaker if you draw it along gender or sex lines rather than departmental?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is the correlation stronger or weaker if you draw it along gender or sex lines rather than departmental?</p>
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		<title>By: Trish</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Trish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The most interesting sociological aspect of this post was the necessity to determine who were the sociologists and who were the physicists. Perhaps Prof. Wade should add a voting app to analyze the personal and popular perception of the sciences and the humanities. As a trained artist and art historian, I agree with the other comments that point out that the examples offered are far from definitive in establishing the hypothesis. .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most interesting sociological aspect of this post was the necessity to determine who were the sociologists and who were the physicists. Perhaps Prof. Wade should add a voting app to analyze the personal and popular perception of the sciences and the humanities. As a trained artist and art historian, I agree with the other comments that point out that the examples offered are far from definitive in establishing the hypothesis. .</p>
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		<title>By: Wehaf</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wehaf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Aug 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If &quot;these hard scientists seek to display themselves to the world as the unemotional clichés of popular myth&quot;, why are they all smiling?


Did any thought at all go into this post?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;these hard scientists seek to display themselves to the world as the unemotional clichés of popular myth&#8221;, why are they all smiling?</p>
<p>Did any thought at all go into this post?</p>
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		<title>By: E. C. Chang</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E. C. Chang]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if anybody checked the bias (including dominant hand) of the photographer(s) and the layout of the rooms  and lighting in which the pictures were taken.  As for me, I always face the direction in which I may make my most expeditious escape from the camera and the person aiming it at me.


But when I can&#039;t avoid it (usually group shots), I usually present my left side.  Mind you, I&#039;m not looking to present myself as emotionally expressive; I&#039;m not an emotionally expressive person.  I am rather seeking to stand/sit at the left end of the line so that I don&#039;t trouble people with my left-handedness and sharp elbows.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if anybody checked the bias (including dominant hand) of the photographer(s) and the layout of the rooms  and lighting in which the pictures were taken.  As for me, I always face the direction in which I may make my most expeditious escape from the camera and the person aiming it at me.</p>
<p>But when I can&#8217;t avoid it (usually group shots), I usually present my left side.  Mind you, I&#8217;m not looking to present myself as emotionally expressive; I&#8217;m not an emotionally expressive person.  I am rather seeking to stand/sit at the left end of the line so that I don&#8217;t trouble people with my left-handedness and sharp elbows.</p>
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		<title>By: Japaniard</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Japaniard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 19:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Fine, but when someone who calls themselves a PhD in their by-line presents something as a &quot;fact&quot; even though the left-brain right-brain dichotomy hasn&#039;t been accepted as true by academics in her field of study for many many years now, it is absolutely fair to call her out on her misinformed posts.

Especially since she still hasn&#039;t (and most likely never will) post an update or otherwise edit this article to clarify that she was mistaken when she said &quot;the right side of the brain is more involved in processing emotions than the left&quot; was a fact, when it actually isn&#039;t.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fine, but when someone who calls themselves a PhD in their by-line presents something as a &#8220;fact&#8221; even though the left-brain right-brain dichotomy hasn&#8217;t been accepted as true by academics in her field of study for many many years now, it is absolutely fair to call her out on her misinformed posts.</p>
<p>Especially since she still hasn&#8217;t (and most likely never will) post an update or otherwise edit this article to clarify that she was mistaken when she said &#8220;the right side of the brain is more involved in processing emotions than the left&#8221; was a fact, when it actually isn&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Maeghan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maeghan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 18:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think brain function has been shown to be way more interconnected and complicated than just &quot;left-brain/right-brain.&quot; It looks like we&#039;re really oversimplifying things here. Even a brief Google search returned this (abstract) result: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7760297 which states that &quot;The left side of the face was more expressive for intermediate intensity expressions of happiness and for least intense expressions of happiness and sadness. The right side of the face was more expressive for most intense expressions of happiness and sadness.&quot;
This separate full study also suggests that things are more complicated: http://www.andrewpickin.com/uploads/Facial_Asymmetry_and_Emotional_Expression.pdf]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think brain function has been shown to be way more interconnected and complicated than just &#8220;left-brain/right-brain.&#8221; It looks like we&#8217;re really oversimplifying things here. Even a brief Google search returned this (abstract) result: <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7760297" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7760297</a> which states that &#8220;The left side of the face was more expressive for intermediate intensity expressions of happiness and for least intense expressions of happiness and sadness. The right side of the face was more expressive for most intense expressions of happiness and sadness.&#8221;<br />
This separate full study also suggests that things are more complicated: <a href="http://www.andrewpickin.com/uploads/Facial_Asymmetry_and_Emotional_Expression.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.andrewpickin.com/uploads/Facial_Asymmetry_and_Emotional_Expression.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Umlud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umlud]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, I think I know where things are falling down and getting social construction heavily embedded within the assessment (and likely - therefore - completely invalidating this beyond a &quot;Western construct&quot;).

From the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0038940#s4&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;methodology of the study&lt;/a&gt;:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Portraits of academics were sourced from official university web sites of the 200 Universities listed in the Times Higher Education World University Rankings for 2010–2011 [16]. A random sample of 30 Universities was taken from this list.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Immediately we have a massive bias, since the majority of universities among the top 200 in the &lt;i&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-12/world-ranking&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Times Higher Education World University Rankings&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/i&gt; are drawn from Western countries. Going there, you can see that 18 of the top 200 universities are not from a Western country. (Here, I&#039;m including South Africa and Israel as Western; if you want to deny the massive Western influence in tertiary education in those countries, the number of non-Western universities goes to 21 out of the top 200.) So, you immediately start with only 9% of universities among the top 200 as belonging non-Western cultures, and the likelihood of any one of them being chosen is (at best) 18/171 (which is the likelihood of a non-Western university to be chosen as the 30th random university, given no non-Western university had been chosen before). But that&#039;s not the only selection criteria:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Universities were excluded if the website for academic staff was not in English.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
So this will also act as a barrier to exclude non-Western universities, since even pre-eminent Asian universities (like the Tokyo University) don&#039;t always use English on their websites. And finally, there&#039;s this:
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Of the 5829 faces rated, 3168 were posing with either the left or right side of the nose visible and were used in the analyses.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s rather &quot;fishy&quot; that the methodology splits the groups into &lt;i&gt;only&lt;/i&gt; left and right and that the straight-on photos (which constitute the vast majority of Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, and - likely - South Korean photos) are dropped in the analysis. This only &lt;i&gt;further&lt;/i&gt; biases the results to Western universities.

So let&#039;s look at how this study cannot claim universality:

1. It uses a list that contains only 18 non-Western universities out of 200.
2. It randomly selects 30 universities from that list.
3. It excludes websites not in English.
4. It excludes photos that conform to the major style of faculty profile photograph in East Asia.

And then it uses this heavily skewed methodology to make this apparently universally applicable conclusion:
&lt;blockquote&gt;In this study we have shown that there are clear differences in the way academics in the sciences and arts present themselves in their publicly accessible University profile picture. Mathematicians, Chemists and Engineers tend to show the right cheek, thus reducing the observable emotionality, while English and Psychology academics show the left cheek, exacerbating the expression of emotion.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Note: the authors make no mention about cultural bias anywhere in their paper.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, I think I know where things are falling down and getting social construction heavily embedded within the assessment (and likely &#8211; therefore &#8211; completely invalidating this beyond a &#8220;Western construct&#8221;).</p>
<p>From the <a href="http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0038940#s4" rel="nofollow">methodology of the study</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Portraits of academics were sourced from official university web sites of the 200 Universities listed in the Times Higher Education World University Rankings for 2010–2011 [16]. A random sample of 30 Universities was taken from this list.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Immediately we have a massive bias, since the majority of universities among the top 200 in the <i><a href="http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/world-university-rankings/2011-12/world-ranking" rel="nofollow">Times Higher Education World University Rankings</a></i> are drawn from Western countries. Going there, you can see that 18 of the top 200 universities are not from a Western country. (Here, I&#8217;m including South Africa and Israel as Western; if you want to deny the massive Western influence in tertiary education in those countries, the number of non-Western universities goes to 21 out of the top 200.) So, you immediately start with only 9% of universities among the top 200 as belonging non-Western cultures, and the likelihood of any one of them being chosen is (at best) 18/171 (which is the likelihood of a non-Western university to be chosen as the 30th random university, given no non-Western university had been chosen before). But that&#8217;s not the only selection criteria:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Universities were excluded if the website for academic staff was not in English.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>So this will also act as a barrier to exclude non-Western universities, since even pre-eminent Asian universities (like the Tokyo University) don&#8217;t always use English on their websites. And finally, there&#8217;s this:</p>
<blockquote><p><i>Of the 5829 faces rated, 3168 were posing with either the left or right side of the nose visible and were used in the analyses.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s rather &#8220;fishy&#8221; that the methodology splits the groups into <i>only</i> left and right and that the straight-on photos (which constitute the vast majority of Japanese, Taiwanese, Chinese, and &#8211; likely &#8211; South Korean photos) are dropped in the analysis. This only <i>further</i> biases the results to Western universities.</p>
<p>So let&#8217;s look at how this study cannot claim universality:</p>
<p>1. It uses a list that contains only 18 non-Western universities out of 200.<br />
2. It randomly selects 30 universities from that list.<br />
3. It excludes websites not in English.<br />
4. It excludes photos that conform to the major style of faculty profile photograph in East Asia.</p>
<p>And then it uses this heavily skewed methodology to make this apparently universally applicable conclusion:</p>
<blockquote><p>In this study we have shown that there are clear differences in the way academics in the sciences and arts present themselves in their publicly accessible University profile picture. Mathematicians, Chemists and Engineers tend to show the right cheek, thus reducing the observable emotionality, while English and Psychology academics show the left cheek, exacerbating the expression of emotion.</p></blockquote>
<p>Note: the authors make no mention about cultural bias anywhere in their paper.</p>
<p>EDITED for formatting issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[good point. It could also contribute to conditioning. even if we&#039;re getting it taken by someone else, we might be used to holding our face at that angle to cameras]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>good point. It could also contribute to conditioning. even if we&#8217;re getting it taken by someone else, we might be used to holding our face at that angle to cameras</p>
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		<title>By: Mari</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Aug 2013 13:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[not really fair if it&#039;s based on unsound science. To me that&#039;s like people who make ridiculous, really offensive comments via their Twitter, get called out on it, and then are like &quot;oh, just trying to stimulate dialogue.&quot; thanks but it&#039;s the internet I think that was already happening here]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not really fair if it&#8217;s based on unsound science. To me that&#8217;s like people who make ridiculous, really offensive comments via their Twitter, get called out on it, and then are like &#8220;oh, just trying to stimulate dialogue.&#8221; thanks but it&#8217;s the internet I think that was already happening here</p>
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