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		<title>By: The Top 1% of U.S. Income Earners Receive 15% of Tax Breaks - Taxes-Info.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Aug 2013 12:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Top 1% of U.S. Income Earners Receive 15% of Tax Breaks</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Aug 2013 18:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jul 2013 05:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is misleading.  The wealthy already pay over 90% of total government revenues from income taxes.  why don&#039;t you show a chart of the total tax paid by each income class and the percentage this represents of total revenue.  That really tells the story and directly conflicts with this author&#039;s message.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is misleading.  The wealthy already pay over 90% of total government revenues from income taxes.  why don&#8217;t you show a chart of the total tax paid by each income class and the percentage this represents of total revenue.  That really tells the story and directly conflicts with this author&#8217;s message.  </p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My original point was that 5% of your income (before EITC, Child tax credits, or any of the other tax credits, subsidies, or other programs funded from tax revenue) isn&#039;t &quot;a signficant chunk&quot; to be paying in taxes. I supported this by pointing out if that 5% makes the difference between being able to cover non-discretionary expenses and not, it&#039;s because non-discretionary expenses are too high a percentage of total income.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My original point was that 5% of your income (before EITC, Child tax credits, or any of the other tax credits, subsidies, or other programs funded from tax revenue) isn&#8217;t &#8220;a signficant chunk&#8221; to be paying in taxes. I supported this by pointing out if that 5% makes the difference between being able to cover non-discretionary expenses and not, it&#8217;s because non-discretionary expenses are too high a percentage of total income.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Patterson-McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Patterson-McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jun 2013 04:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You seem to be missing the basic point - when your choice is a business that is barely scraping by or NO INCOME AT ALL you work the business as best you can. Hustling for freelance and odd jobs *(aka &quot;nickel and diming your way to rent&quot;) can be a harsh way to live, but it is better than couchsurfing and going hungry, or panhandling.  Plenty of people are still living in &quot;the downtick&quot;.


Or maybe (if they are hiring, which is not a guarantee) you can get a job at Wal-mart, which will still mean you probably need food stamps and are in the lowest tax bracket.


This is not theoretical. This is a reality for a hell of a lot of people.


So yes, I think it is entirely fair that the people who are barely scraping by pay both fewer taxes and a smaller percentage, because the $50 or $100 that is painful to them is a dinner out for a middle class family and barely pocket change for the rich, who are, to bring it back to the actual content of this article, getting a lot more money from the goverment than the poor are. (And subsidizing people playing the stock market, when the stock market doesn&#039;t put money back *into* the economy in a useful, infrastructure and services-building way, is ridiculous.





(Also, on that first paragraph, my accountant disagrees with you on how to properly file taxes as a self-employed person, and I&#039;m going to trust her over a random internet person.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be missing the basic point &#8211; when your choice is a business that is barely scraping by or NO INCOME AT ALL you work the business as best you can. Hustling for freelance and odd jobs *(aka &#8220;nickel and diming your way to rent&#8221;) can be a harsh way to live, but it is better than couchsurfing and going hungry, or panhandling.  Plenty of people are still living in &#8220;the downtick&#8221;.</p>
<p>Or maybe (if they are hiring, which is not a guarantee) you can get a job at Wal-mart, which will still mean you probably need food stamps and are in the lowest tax bracket.</p>
<p>This is not theoretical. This is a reality for a hell of a lot of people.</p>
<p>So yes, I think it is entirely fair that the people who are barely scraping by pay both fewer taxes and a smaller percentage, because the $50 or $100 that is painful to them is a dinner out for a middle class family and barely pocket change for the rich, who are, to bring it back to the actual content of this article, getting a lot more money from the goverment than the poor are. (And subsidizing people playing the stock market, when the stock market doesn&#8217;t put money back *into* the economy in a useful, infrastructure and services-building way, is ridiculous.</p>
<p>(Also, on that first paragraph, my accountant disagrees with you on how to properly file taxes as a self-employed person, and I&#8217;m going to trust her over a random internet person.)</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You only pay self-employment tax on what you draw as wages, and you pay that whether or not the business is profitable. Money that your business gives you as a permanent no-interest loan, that you embezzle from yourself, or that you simply take out of the business as profit rather than wages (however you phrase it) is taxed as income, but has neither the costs nor benefits associated with self-employment tax.


Also, I stand by my assertion that if your business can&#039;t afford to pay you a living wage, it should probably reevaluate its plan; if it would be illegal and/or unethical to pay an employee as little as you pay yourself, there&#039;s a good chance you won&#039;t be able to survive a downtick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You only pay self-employment tax on what you draw as wages, and you pay that whether or not the business is profitable. Money that your business gives you as a permanent no-interest loan, that you embezzle from yourself, or that you simply take out of the business as profit rather than wages (however you phrase it) is taxed as income, but has neither the costs nor benefits associated with self-employment tax.</p>
<p>Also, I stand by my assertion that if your business can&#8217;t afford to pay you a living wage, it should probably reevaluate its plan; if it would be illegal and/or unethical to pay an employee as little as you pay yourself, there&#8217;s a good chance you won&#8217;t be able to survive a downtick.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Patterson-McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Patterson-McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Jun 2013 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your example leaves out many, many possibilites. Including the rather obvious one of business that are profitable, but not significantly lucrative. If the business didn&#039;t lose money, than you pay income tax on it, as well as self-employment tax.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your example leaves out many, many possibilites. Including the rather obvious one of business that are profitable, but not significantly lucrative. If the business didn&#8217;t lose money, than you pay income tax on it, as well as self-employment tax.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, the payroll taxes you pay on yourself aren&#039;t burdensome. 



People who are sinking money into their own business shouldn&#039;t be drawing an income from it yet, so they shouldn&#039;t be paying taxes on said income. I never paid a dime in income taxes as related to my business, because I lost money on it (in real terms, as well as paper terms) every year. I suppose I could have paid myself and paid for my own UI and SS, then deducted the business loss of paying myself from my income, but the net effect of that would be to buy some base rate on unemployment when I laid myself off and added a net of nothing to the nothing I expect from Social Security in 2050.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the payroll taxes you pay on yourself aren&#8217;t burdensome. </p>
<p>People who are sinking money into their own business shouldn&#8217;t be drawing an income from it yet, so they shouldn&#8217;t be paying taxes on said income. I never paid a dime in income taxes as related to my business, because I lost money on it (in real terms, as well as paper terms) every year. I suppose I could have paid myself and paid for my own UI and SS, then deducted the business loss of paying myself from my income, but the net effect of that would be to buy some base rate on unemployment when I laid myself off and added a net of nothing to the nothing I expect from Social Security in 2050.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Patterson-McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Patterson-McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 07:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*My* business is just fine, and I&#039;ve been several tax brackets up for a while. You clearly have no idea what life is like in the working poor. 

There are still far fewer jobs paying living wages than there are people who want, need AND are qualified to work them. There are plenty of people who had solid, skilled, middle class jobs before the housing crisis made things go bust who are now scraping along on odd jobs, trying to make a go of small businesses, and food stamps. I employ a couple of them part-time, and am acquainted with far more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*My* business is just fine, and I&#8217;ve been several tax brackets up for a while. You clearly have no idea what life is like in the working poor. </p>
<p>There are still far fewer jobs paying living wages than there are people who want, need AND are qualified to work them. There are plenty of people who had solid, skilled, middle class jobs before the housing crisis made things go bust who are now scraping along on odd jobs, trying to make a go of small businesses, and food stamps. I employ a couple of them part-time, and am acquainted with far more.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jun 2013 02:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If your payroll taxes on yourself are burdensome, your business needs to reevaluate its plans.

If rent+groceries (or even all nondiscretionary expenses combined) account for more than 95% of your income, you likewise need to reevaluate your plan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If your payroll taxes on yourself are burdensome, your business needs to reevaluate its plans.</p>
<p>If rent+groceries (or even all nondiscretionary expenses combined) account for more than 95% of your income, you likewise need to reevaluate your plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Patterson-McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Patterson-McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 19:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And when you are that poor, 5% of your income can easily be the difference between paying your rent and buying groceries or having to choose between the two.
5% has a disproportionately large effect at lower income levels.


Also, when you are self-employed, you are paying more than that, because you are paying the traditional employers share of payroll taxes. Which a lot of the poor people I know are, because jobs are thin on the ground and you freelance just so you have *some* income.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And when you are that poor, 5% of your income can easily be the difference between paying your rent and buying groceries or having to choose between the two.<br />
5% has a disproportionately large effect at lower income levels.</p>
<p>Also, when you are self-employed, you are paying more than that, because you are paying the traditional employers share of payroll taxes. Which a lot of the poor people I know are, because jobs are thin on the ground and you freelance just so you have *some* income.</p>
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		<title>By: Brutus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brutus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jun 2013 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you make less than the $11,490 poverty line in 2013, you have tax of less than $500 (~5% of your income) after the standard deduction and before any tax credits that apply.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you make less than the $11,490 poverty line in 2013, you have tax of less than $500 (~5% of your income) after the standard deduction and before any tax credits that apply.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so what theyre still paying more either way]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so what theyre still paying more either way</p>
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		<title>By: Jane Patterson-McGuire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jane Patterson-McGuire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 16:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not the poor, or most of the middle class, however, that are ducking their share of the income tax with clever accountants and loopholes for investors (and lets face it, investing in the stock market does pretty much nothing for the economy at large). I have been below the poverty line, and I&#039;ve been in a fairly high tax bracket, and I still paid a signficant chunk of my income in taxes both times. 


Do you really think that poor people aren&#039;t voting because they come April 15, they are more likely to have already paid more into the system than they owe? Is there even data to support the idea that poor people don&#039;t vote?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not the poor, or most of the middle class, however, that are ducking their share of the income tax with clever accountants and loopholes for investors (and lets face it, investing in the stock market does pretty much nothing for the economy at large). I have been below the poverty line, and I&#8217;ve been in a fairly high tax bracket, and I still paid a signficant chunk of my income in taxes both times. </p>
<p>Do you really think that poor people aren&#8217;t voting because they come April 15, they are more likely to have already paid more into the system than they owe? Is there even data to support the idea that poor people don&#8217;t vote?</p>
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		<title>By: FieldMus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FieldMus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Jun 2013 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, if they are less likely to be taxed, vis a vis tax breaks and the lower capital gains tax, then numbers wise yes they are paying more than others but they are paying a lower percentage of their total income than middle class and lower class income earners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, if they are less likely to be taxed, vis a vis tax breaks and the lower capital gains tax, then numbers wise yes they are paying more than others but they are paying a lower percentage of their total income than middle class and lower class income earners.</p>
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