Comments on: Steep Drop in Life Expectancy for White High School Drop Outs

By: stilladyj

stilladyj — Sat, 06 Oct 2012 16:20:00 +0000

I love you. That is all.

By: Wondering

Wondering — Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:43:00 +0000

While poor black people have equivalent life expectancies as poor white people. The big point that is wooshing over your head is POOR. What this graph doesn’t tell us is what percentage of each group is poor. If the number of white people who are poor has dropped over the time period shown in the graphs, then there would still be fewer white people with low life expectancies, even though the results for poor white people is worse.

By: ViktorNN

ViktorNN — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 22:28:00 +0000

Okay, so poor whites are dying younger, while blacks and hispanics are living longer, but poor whites have just as much “white privilege” as ever.

Riiiight.

By: Wondering

Wondering — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 18:46:00 +0000

Bullshit. These graphs only show that poor people who are unable to access healthcare have similar life expectancies. Life expectancies for poor black people has scarcely improved at all. The fact that there is a class intersection here does not obviate white privilege.

By: ViktorNN

ViktorNN — Tue, 02 Oct 2012 04:41:00 +0000

Time to jettison the notion of “white privilege.” It’s outdated.

By: Clara

Clara — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 22:35:00 +0000

It seems most likely to me that since more and more people are graduating from high school, those who do not are those with more severe difficulties – including health issues. It isn’t that life has gotten worse for this population, but that you’ve changed the average by removing one half of the population.

By: pduggie

pduggie — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 20:22:00 +0000

Either way, w’ere becoming morlocks and eloi.

By: Yrro Simyarin

Yrro Simyarin — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:21:00 +0000

Indeed.. is an increased concentration of disadvantages reducing the life expectancy for the group, or is the group itself changing to include only those who have the worst combination of disadvantages, and shedding itself of those who have the ability to end up in a better, longer life?

Is the population changing or the sampling?

By: pduggie

pduggie — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 17:02:00 +0000

Well, we know that strong disparities in life expectancy usually have a racial justice component.

usually.

And I note its tagged gender, work, family, health and intersectionality. You mentioned ‘white’ but didn’t tag it ‘race’?

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By: Umlud

Umlud — Mon, 01 Oct 2012 16:22:00 +0000

It would be interesting to see what the relative distributions are around those numbers. How large, for example, is 1 S.D. from these mean values, and how is the level of variation changing?

In addition, I think that it would be interested to know the geographic distribution of these data. Even if it were urban/rural, state-by-state, or by region (e.g., South, Midwest, Northeast, West). This could help provide some explanation to the marked trends we see.

Unfortunately, nothing in the NYTimes article seem to shed any light as to the variation, the change in variation, or the geographic distribution of death rates.