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	<title>Comments on: Are All the Racists on the Right?</title>
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		<title>By: Jikki</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/09/01/political-ideology-and-racism-are-all-the-racists-on-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-562934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jikki]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Oct 2012 02:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ They live on the Asian continent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> They live on the Asian continent.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 08:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think this line of thought conflates institutional racism and overt racism to some extent.

The former is quite plausible to quantify; we can take all kinds of measurements to see where real socioeconomic inequality exists, and determine that a broad situation is racist in its impact. But how can you reasonably quantify racism within the individuals who make up these institutions?

As in your example, how can you draw the line between a genuine belief in one&#039;s racial superiority and mere ignorance to someone else&#039;s social conditions?

 I find that if you show up to the argument referring to another person as racist, the dialogue is basically over. Very few people believe that they are, so they intuitively feel that you must be wrong. However, it is much more fair and constructive when you can identify the racism embedded in certain ideas, or the way that relatively banal notions contribute to a racist system, without claiming some ability to define someone&#039;s character in a single word.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this line of thought conflates institutional racism and overt racism to some extent.</p>
<p>The former is quite plausible to quantify; we can take all kinds of measurements to see where real socioeconomic inequality exists, and determine that a broad situation is racist in its impact. But how can you reasonably quantify racism within the individuals who make up these institutions?</p>
<p>As in your example, how can you draw the line between a genuine belief in one&#8217;s racial superiority and mere ignorance to someone else&#8217;s social conditions?</p>
<p> I find that if you show up to the argument referring to another person as racist, the dialogue is basically over. Very few people believe that they are, so they intuitively feel that you must be wrong. However, it is much more fair and constructive when you can identify the racism embedded in certain ideas, or the way that relatively banal notions contribute to a racist system, without claiming some ability to define someone&#8217;s character in a single word.</p>
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		<title>By: Necrophagi</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Necrophagi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is all lies. The Republicans are all racists.  They want to put us in chains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is all lies. The Republicans are all racists.  They want to put us in chains.</p>
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		<title>By: Rayuela</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rayuela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2012 00:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are the authors aware of research by sociologist Eduardo Bonilla Silva and others that suggest that questionnaires are actually quite a poor predicter of racist attitudes and that white respondents consistently give answers to survey-response studies which are belied by the answers of the same individuals to an interview-type study with a white interviewer?
(I guess this is what Brandon is trying to point out in his comment)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the authors aware of research by sociologist Eduardo Bonilla Silva and others that suggest that questionnaires are actually quite a poor predicter of racist attitudes and that white respondents consistently give answers to survey-response studies which are belied by the answers of the same individuals to an interview-type study with a white interviewer?<br />
(I guess this is what Brandon is trying to point out in his comment)</p>
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		<title>By: Longhornsociologist</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Longhornsociologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When I was in graduate school I dated a young white lady (I am black). Her mother found out. Her mother described herself as a pro-choice feminist. So I am good right. No. Her mother threaten to disown her if she did not break up with me. Bye bye relationship. I know the data about conservatives and racism. I accept the reality that racism is more likely to come from the right than the left. But the person who did me wrong the worst as it comes to racism is an advowed liberal Democrat. Ever since that day I do not make the mistake of thinking that racism can only be on the right. You can bet that some of those at the DNC do not want their daughter with a black guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was in graduate school I dated a young white lady (I am black). Her mother found out. Her mother described herself as a pro-choice feminist. So I am good right. No. Her mother threaten to disown her if she did not break up with me. Bye bye relationship. I know the data about conservatives and racism. I accept the reality that racism is more likely to come from the right than the left. But the person who did me wrong the worst as it comes to racism is an advowed liberal Democrat. Ever since that day I do not make the mistake of thinking that racism can only be on the right. You can bet that some of those at the DNC do not want their daughter with a black guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ojosverdes11231979</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ojosverdes11231979]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ojosverdes11231979</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/09/01/political-ideology-and-racism-are-all-the-racists-on-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-560148</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ojosverdes11231979]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 21:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To quote this sham article, &quot;But that does not mean that the other conservatives who agree with them and who deny that racial discrimination affects the lives of Black people are also racists.&quot; Ummm, yes, it does actually. The only people I know who would think that blacks have or will ever have a fair shake in this country (and probably the world over) are racist.

The racial discrimination that continues to permeate every pore of our sociaty is a HUGE factor in the lives of all people of color, but mostly black people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To quote this sham article, &#8220;But that does not mean that the other conservatives who agree with them and who deny that racial discrimination affects the lives of Black people are also racists.&#8221; Ummm, yes, it does actually. The only people I know who would think that blacks have or will ever have a fair shake in this country (and probably the world over) are racist.</p>
<p>The racial discrimination that continues to permeate every pore of our sociaty is a HUGE factor in the lives of all people of color, but mostly black people.</p>
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		<title>By: Theodore</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theodore]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Sep 2012 20:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It was Clinton, after all, who pushed the incarceration system and the zero tolerance policies, along with ending welfare as we know it... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was Clinton, after all, who pushed the incarceration system and the zero tolerance policies, along with ending welfare as we know it&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: glaborous_immolate</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/09/01/political-ideology-and-racism-are-all-the-racists-on-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-560026</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[glaborous_immolate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 19:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who are Asians? That&#039;s not really a &#039;race&#039;, just a continental designation. Compare someone from Bangalore to someone from Seoul. What do they have in common, really?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who are Asians? That&#8217;s not really a &#8216;race&#8217;, just a continental designation. Compare someone from Bangalore to someone from Seoul. What do they have in common, really?</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/09/01/political-ideology-and-racism-are-all-the-racists-on-the-right/comment-page-1/#comment-560013</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The words may be quite slippery in their practical definitions, but they are no less key to people&#039;s self-identity and political inclinations than other meaningless words such as &quot;black,&quot; &quot;white,&quot; &quot;rich,&quot; &quot;poor,&quot; and &quot;middle-class.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words may be quite slippery in their practical definitions, but they are no less key to people&#8217;s self-identity and political inclinations than other meaningless words such as &#8220;black,&#8221; &#8220;white,&#8221; &#8220;rich,&#8221; &#8220;poor,&#8221; and &#8220;middle-class.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Allison Lukens</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Allison Lukens]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You talk about liberal vs conservative as if those words mean anything... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk about liberal vs conservative as if those words mean anything&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Would you vote for a black president?&quot;
&quot;Sure.  Sure I would.  I don&#039;t see color.  I&#039;d vote for anyone: white, black, yellow, red, green... whatever.&quot;
&quot;Did you vote for Obama?&quot;
&quot;That racist, socialist, Muslim?  Where is his BIRTH CERTIFICATE?&quot;

&quot;Do you support laws banning interracial marriage?&quot;
&quot;No.&quot;
&quot;What if your daughter married a black man?&quot;
&quot;Well...&quot;

So many reasons why these questions are problematic... ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Would you vote for a black president?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Sure.  Sure I would.  I don&#8217;t see color.  I&#8217;d vote for anyone: white, black, yellow, red, green&#8230; whatever.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Did you vote for Obama?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;That racist, socialist, Muslim?  Where is his BIRTH CERTIFICATE?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you support laws banning interracial marriage?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;No.&#8221;<br />
&#8220;What if your daughter married a black man?&#8221;<br />
&#8220;Well&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>So many reasons why these questions are problematic&#8230; </p>
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		<title>By: Brandon</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brandon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 13:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I look forward to reading your official rankings on the &quot;most racist people out there.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I look forward to reading your official rankings on the &#8220;most racist people out there.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: NK</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[NK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Sep 2012 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The question about inter-racial marriages is racist itself, like white people are doing us a favour by allowing themselves to marry other races. 

In America Africans were property so they wanted to keep them separate (which didn&#039;t stop them sexually exploiting their slaves btw. If inter-racial relationships are evidence of anti -racism, good news, there never was any racism!) but other races had different roles and were defined to suit different needs. Eg- Indigenous people, whites wanted to decrease their numbers so inter-marriage was used to force assimilation and destroy their cultures and societies. It wasn&#039;t a sign of enlightenment that the 1 drop rule never applied to Indigenous people. African Americans are no longer required as a source of disposable labour so now they are targeted for assimilation too, it isn&#039;t anti-racist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question about inter-racial marriages is racist itself, like white people are doing us a favour by allowing themselves to marry other races. </p>
<p>In America Africans were property so they wanted to keep them separate (which didn&#8217;t stop them sexually exploiting their slaves btw. If inter-racial relationships are evidence of anti -racism, good news, there never was any racism!) but other races had different roles and were defined to suit different needs. Eg- Indigenous people, whites wanted to decrease their numbers so inter-marriage was used to force assimilation and destroy their cultures and societies. It wasn&#8217;t a sign of enlightenment that the 1 drop rule never applied to Indigenous people. African Americans are no longer required as a source of disposable labour so now they are targeted for assimilation too, it isn&#8217;t anti-racist.</p>
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		<title>By: n2whyteguyz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[n2whyteguyz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2012 16:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whites overstating the racism of other groups is a common, transparent racist trope.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whites overstating the racism of other groups is a common, transparent racist trope.</p>
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