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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Bad Romance: Women&#8217;s Suffrage&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Dcohen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dcohen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Actually, I stand corrected. I just did some research. There were African-American women in the National Women&#039;s Party. I used this resource from the Library of Congress: Women of Protest http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/suffrage/nwp/
Sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Actually, I stand corrected. I just did some research. There were African-American women in the National Women&#8217;s Party. I used this resource from the Library of Congress: Women of Protest <a href="http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/suffrage/nwp/" rel="nofollow">http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/suffrage/nwp/</a><br />
Sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Dcohen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dcohen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2013 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Tess, you have alot of patience and I respect that you have given so much effort to your replies. For others to overlook how great this video is and only focus on what is missing [while at the same time displaying a lack of understanding of context, which you educated many on] is unfair. It&#039;s like criticizing Mark Twain for using the &quot;n&quot; word. His literature was a product of the times. The video represents a slice of history and is pretty accurate. And, thank god for those women. We wouldn&#039;t have gotten the vote without them. I love this video.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Tess, you have alot of patience and I respect that you have given so much effort to your replies. For others to overlook how great this video is and only focus on what is missing [while at the same time displaying a lack of understanding of context, which you educated many on] is unfair. It&#8217;s like criticizing Mark Twain for using the &#8220;n&#8221; word. His literature was a product of the times. The video represents a slice of history and is pretty accurate. And, thank god for those women. We wouldn&#8217;t have gotten the vote without them. I love this video.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindymalt</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cindymalt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jul 2012 12:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[haol of low high and thouse is all suffer quite enough more or less to quit it is by logging off in any way babys crys allot and winge lot the laddies lair will be an misstery of corse indeed instead of that. bad rommance the ladies lair of the Haus barths of gaga and that s was some babys say with fearing mothers a child hood and peranting. Cindy Malt says to it is a job work on bussnes toworlds it so much of it. consuitable rammantic to watch it on tellivison at home or in Bed sleep time o cloock an half an hour latter when the serprice cooker backes alot of pies and dannishess for fun butt funny looking thingthe rommance lair never a like it so much with poorest immage all right is so all the time im intressage of the ladies suffrage lair even i want to know you all your names and where you are from and where are you now in this reallauty world right now.   ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haol of low high and thouse is all suffer quite enough more or less to quit it is by logging off in any way babys crys allot and winge lot the laddies lair will be an misstery of corse indeed instead of that. bad rommance the ladies lair of the Haus barths of gaga and that s was some babys say with fearing mothers a child hood and peranting. Cindy Malt says to it is a job work on bussnes toworlds it so much of it. consuitable rammantic to watch it on tellivison at home or in Bed sleep time o cloock an half an hour latter when the serprice cooker backes alot of pies and dannishess for fun butt funny looking thingthe rommance lair never a like it so much with poorest immage all right is so all the time im intressage of the ladies suffrage lair even i want to know you all your names and where you are from and where are you now in this reallauty world right now.   </p>
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		<title>By: Xy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Mar 2012 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let me also point out that in high school, we did not cover, at all, the women&#039;s movement. The only women&#039;s movement information I received said that susan b. anthony and elizabeth cady stanton met at sennaca falls and held a convention, then they wrote the declaration of rights and sentiments and it was voted on and women had the right to vote. So, I would have LOVED this video to be shown in class, since it would have been the ONLY information I received on the actual fight for women&#039;s suffrage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me also point out that in high school, we did not cover, at all, the women&#8217;s movement. The only women&#8217;s movement information I received said that susan b. anthony and elizabeth cady stanton met at sennaca falls and held a convention, then they wrote the declaration of rights and sentiments and it was voted on and women had the right to vote. So, I would have LOVED this video to be shown in class, since it would have been the ONLY information I received on the actual fight for women&#8217;s suffrage.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny Thurman</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenny Thurman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 09:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ I kind of desperately love the song itself and the video is very pretty, but I keep thinking: could they have not at least shown working class and black women attempting to join and being pushed away by the white, upper/middle class majority?  This would not do justice to everything that non-white women have done for women&#039;s suffrage in the US, but it would at least address it, and point out the racism and classism of the women that are centered in the video.

(even Iron Jawed Angels had a scene where a several black women deliberately stepped into the middle of a parade, despite knowing they were not welcome by all or most of the other women there - in fact specifically because they knew they were not welcome, but were determined to participate anyway)

Barring that, they could have changed the line about the fifteenth.  I get that this was the attitude of the time, but repeating it without any visual reminders that &quot;hey! the fourteenth and fifteenth affected women too!&quot; is just...gah.

The wardrobe choices for the anti was rather jarring too, because part 
of why the suffragettes were so anxious to look &quot;middle class respectable&quot;
 was because - much like Rush labeling Fluke a slut - suffragettes were 
often disparaged at the time as being loose and unnatural.

(I&#039;m still in love with the song though, and the pretty.  Also, as an alum of a women&#039;s college that still incorporates &quot;white clothes = women&#039;s suffrage&quot; into graduation festivities, I must admit it made me tear up a bit.  I just know the vid is not without problems.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> I kind of desperately love the song itself and the video is very pretty, but I keep thinking: could they have not at least shown working class and black women attempting to join and being pushed away by the white, upper/middle class majority?  This would not do justice to everything that non-white women have done for women&#8217;s suffrage in the US, but it would at least address it, and point out the racism and classism of the women that are centered in the video.</p>
<p>(even Iron Jawed Angels had a scene where a several black women deliberately stepped into the middle of a parade, despite knowing they were not welcome by all or most of the other women there &#8211; in fact specifically because they knew they were not welcome, but were determined to participate anyway)</p>
<p>Barring that, they could have changed the line about the fifteenth.  I get that this was the attitude of the time, but repeating it without any visual reminders that &#8220;hey! the fourteenth and fifteenth affected women too!&#8221; is just&#8230;gah.</p>
<p>The wardrobe choices for the anti was rather jarring too, because part<br />
of why the suffragettes were so anxious to look &#8220;middle class respectable&#8221;<br />
 was because &#8211; much like Rush labeling Fluke a slut &#8211; suffragettes were<br />
often disparaged at the time as being loose and unnatural.</p>
<p>(I&#8217;m still in love with the song though, and the pretty.  Also, as an alum of a women&#8217;s college that still incorporates &#8220;white clothes = women&#8217;s suffrage&#8221; into graduation festivities, I must admit it made me tear up a bit.  I just know the vid is not without problems.)</p>
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		<title>By: Joy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.  I posted my original comment after serious consideration (being in a grad course in US Feminist Genealogies sparked it) of the possibility of anachronism.  But there were women of color involved, even in this specific time period, as Meredith notes.  My further issue is that the audience this type of material hopes to reach is high school/early college age students, and this may be the first and ONLY view into the suffrage movement these students have.  My time in this grad course has opened my eyes to just how whitewashed women&#039;s movements in the US (and I&#039;m sure elsewhere) are as presented to students in the US educational system, even through documentaries &amp; films (aforementioned here) and even women&#039;s studies classes.  Yes, as scholars and those who have extensive knowledge on the politics of the archive and history as a social construction, we may be able to see this as just one slice of a much larger project, but the high school student who sees this would most likely come off thinking it was a white women&#039;s movement for suffrage.  I&#039;m not saying that we should represent Alice Paul as something she was not, but there were opportunities in the group scenes to include a better representation of the women involved in the movement.  

I even went back to watch Lady Gaga&#039;s original video to see if her version was similarly whitewashed, and that the producers somehow wanted to mimic her artistic intent (I really was looking for a reason besides exclusion/lack of research!), but her video was not so exclusive.  I believe someone wrote that my comment was a &quot;quick judgement,&quot; but I spent more time than I should have trying to find some valid reason for the misrepresentation that I perceived.

I&#039;ve really enjoyed this discussion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  I posted my original comment after serious consideration (being in a grad course in US Feminist Genealogies sparked it) of the possibility of anachronism.  But there were women of color involved, even in this specific time period, as Meredith notes.  My further issue is that the audience this type of material hopes to reach is high school/early college age students, and this may be the first and ONLY view into the suffrage movement these students have.  My time in this grad course has opened my eyes to just how whitewashed women&#8217;s movements in the US (and I&#8217;m sure elsewhere) are as presented to students in the US educational system, even through documentaries &amp; films (aforementioned here) and even women&#8217;s studies classes.  Yes, as scholars and those who have extensive knowledge on the politics of the archive and history as a social construction, we may be able to see this as just one slice of a much larger project, but the high school student who sees this would most likely come off thinking it was a white women&#8217;s movement for suffrage.  I&#8217;m not saying that we should represent Alice Paul as something she was not, but there were opportunities in the group scenes to include a better representation of the women involved in the movement.  </p>
<p>I even went back to watch Lady Gaga&#8217;s original video to see if her version was similarly whitewashed, and that the producers somehow wanted to mimic her artistic intent (I really was looking for a reason besides exclusion/lack of research!), but her video was not so exclusive.  I believe someone wrote that my comment was a &#8220;quick judgement,&#8221; but I spent more time than I should have trying to find some valid reason for the misrepresentation that I perceived.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve really enjoyed this discussion!</p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hate defending this video, because I agree it&#039;s part of a problematic curriculum, but the events covered in the video itself took place in the few years leading up to 1920.  Sojourner Truth died in 1883; her famous speeches were given from 1851 to around 1870ish.  So while she was part of this history, by the time the 19th amendment was passed, her own contribution was a matter of history, having taken place 50-70 years before.

It would be kind of like making a film starting with the people lining up on the steps of city hall to get married in 2004 and ending with the Prop 8 court battle - and including a representation of &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Kameny&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Frank Kameny&lt;/a&gt; from the 1950s.  Although at least he was still alive in 2004.

I would like Sojourner Truth to her to have her own video, though - and any discussion of the entirety of the US suffrage movement that leaves her out is horribly incomplete.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate defending this video, because I agree it&#8217;s part of a problematic curriculum, but the events covered in the video itself took place in the few years leading up to 1920.  Sojourner Truth died in 1883; her famous speeches were given from 1851 to around 1870ish.  So while she was part of this history, by the time the 19th amendment was passed, her own contribution was a matter of history, having taken place 50-70 years before.</p>
<p>It would be kind of like making a film starting with the people lining up on the steps of city hall to get married in 2004 and ending with the Prop 8 court battle &#8211; and including a representation of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Kameny" rel="nofollow">Frank Kameny</a> from the 1950s.  Although at least he was still alive in 2004.</p>
<p>I would like Sojourner Truth to her to have her own video, though &#8211; and any discussion of the entirety of the US suffrage movement that leaves her out is horribly incomplete.  </p>
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		<title>By: Tess</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tess]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 08:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t disagree - and the accompanying materials don&#039;t mention race at all, which is Not A Good Thing.  Thank you for linking them.

I think the problem is far less the video than the fact that it portrays a very narrow segment of the suffrage movement as though it was the whole thing...  which is a decision on the company&#039;s part that could be addressed with additional materials, or more videos.  

My initial problem was along the lines of a knee-jerk reaction to knee-jerk criticism.  If someone made a movie of my childhood, it could be criticized for lacking people of color and openly gay people - but that&#039;s because I grew up in a 99% white town in a 98% white state and all the queers were in the closet.  (Not that anyone will make a movie of my childhood.)

I&#039;m happy to stand corrected on this one. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree &#8211; and the accompanying materials don&#8217;t mention race at all, which is Not A Good Thing.  Thank you for linking them.</p>
<p>I think the problem is far less the video than the fact that it portrays a very narrow segment of the suffrage movement as though it was the whole thing&#8230;  which is a decision on the company&#8217;s part that could be addressed with additional materials, or more videos.  </p>
<p>My initial problem was along the lines of a knee-jerk reaction to knee-jerk criticism.  If someone made a movie of my childhood, it could be criticized for lacking people of color and openly gay people &#8211; but that&#8217;s because I grew up in a 99% white town in a 98% white state and all the queers were in the closet.  (Not that anyone will make a movie of my childhood.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy to stand corrected on this one. </p>
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		<title>By: Missa Ndrea</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missa Ndrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Mar 2012 00:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, sorry if all that came off as rude.  Anyway.  There is rather a large distinction between &quot;watering down more advanced theories in order to make those theories more understandable&quot; to the masses; and propagating even more racism/sexism/homophobia.

It&#039;s actually a great distinction not a minor one, so I don&#039;t know why it&#039;s so difficult to understand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, sorry if all that came off as rude.  Anyway.  There is rather a large distinction between &#8220;watering down more advanced theories in order to make those theories more understandable&#8221; to the masses; and propagating even more racism/sexism/homophobia.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually a great distinction not a minor one, so I don&#8217;t know why it&#8217;s so difficult to understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not even sure how to respond to your use of racial epithets.  Are you trying to be shocking and &#039;edgy?&#039;  Because I&#039;m just finding it disturbing and disrespectful of others.  I can see the point I think you were trying to make, although I disagree with you.  I might have wanted to discuss it further, but I do not think you are capable of doing so in a respectful manner.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not even sure how to respond to your use of racial epithets.  Are you trying to be shocking and &#8216;edgy?&#8217;  Because I&#8217;m just finding it disturbing and disrespectful of others.  I can see the point I think you were trying to make, although I disagree with you.  I might have wanted to discuss it further, but I do not think you are capable of doing so in a respectful manner.  </p>
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		<title>By: Missa Ndrea</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missa Ndrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ This is 2012.  If anti-racism efforts must first arouse the interest of vast numbers of klan member because klan members comprise the vast majority of the population, then seriously, give up on white people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> This is 2012.  If anti-racism efforts must first arouse the interest of vast numbers of klan member because klan members comprise the vast majority of the population, then seriously, give up on white people.</p>
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		<title>By: Estella</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Estella]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking as a historian of the French Revolution, that video irritates me for a number of reasons. But I guess it&#039;s better than most of the English language material out there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking as a historian of the French Revolution, that video irritates me for a number of reasons. But I guess it&#8217;s better than most of the English language material out there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Missa Ndrea</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missa Ndrea]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[TRIGGER WARNING: demonstrative example of bad logic about to commence.  It is intended to highlight the offensiveness of your argument, because your logic absolutely SUCKS:

Hey, yo nigger.   Is empowering for some blacks, therefore it&#039;s a great introduction to advanced anti-racism.

What logic is that???  It&#039;s a justification for the presence of harm, not an actual reason.  The principle you&#039;re using is:  hey the best solution to a culture drowning in misogyny is to throw MOAR misogyny on it.  Almost every mainstream discussion is yet another suckass &quot;introduction&quot; to feminism, without ever getting beyond a superficial level designed to arouse a prurient interest.  It is exactly like saying &quot;hey spewing a bit of racism is a great introduction to more advanced anti-racism theories&quot;.

Sure, for a klan member.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TRIGGER WARNING: demonstrative example of bad logic about to commence.  It is intended to highlight the offensiveness of your argument, because your logic absolutely SUCKS:</p>
<p>Hey, yo nigger.   Is empowering for some blacks, therefore it&#8217;s a great introduction to advanced anti-racism.</p>
<p>What logic is that???  It&#8217;s a justification for the presence of harm, not an actual reason.  The principle you&#8217;re using is:  hey the best solution to a culture drowning in misogyny is to throw MOAR misogyny on it.  Almost every mainstream discussion is yet another suckass &#8220;introduction&#8221; to feminism, without ever getting beyond a superficial level designed to arouse a prurient interest.  It is exactly like saying &#8220;hey spewing a bit of racism is a great introduction to more advanced anti-racism theories&#8221;.</p>
<p>Sure, for a klan member.  </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ Makes perfect sense to me; women&#039;s movements of the time often fought tooth and nail to exclude women of color, along with &quot;undesirable&quot; white women (poor and immigrant mainly).  I think that it&#039;s especially jarring to the modern eye, but even if it&#039;s unintentional, and unintentionally negative towards the group it&#039;s supposed to be praising, it&#039;s not terribly inaccurate.  

It does make me wonder why, when discussing women&#039;s suffrage, even in a historical sense, white women in the early 1900s are the only people ever mentioned.  It&#039;s not like it never occurred to women that they might be capable of voting until some upper-middle class white housewife thought of it in a fit of boredom.  I&#039;ve heard of pushes for suffrage, coming from both black women and white women, of varying social classes (from slaves to the wives of presidents) dating back to the 1700s (and I&#039;m sure they would have dated even earlier if we&#039;d been a democracy).  Even when these women are mentioned in textbooks, it&#039;s presented like Susan B. Anthony and Alice Paul came up with completely novel ideas with &quot;votes for women.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> Makes perfect sense to me; women&#8217;s movements of the time often fought tooth and nail to exclude women of color, along with &#8220;undesirable&#8221; white women (poor and immigrant mainly).  I think that it&#8217;s especially jarring to the modern eye, but even if it&#8217;s unintentional, and unintentionally negative towards the group it&#8217;s supposed to be praising, it&#8217;s not terribly inaccurate.  </p>
<p>It does make me wonder why, when discussing women&#8217;s suffrage, even in a historical sense, white women in the early 1900s are the only people ever mentioned.  It&#8217;s not like it never occurred to women that they might be capable of voting until some upper-middle class white housewife thought of it in a fit of boredom.  I&#8217;ve heard of pushes for suffrage, coming from both black women and white women, of varying social classes (from slaves to the wives of presidents) dating back to the 1700s (and I&#8217;m sure they would have dated even earlier if we&#8217;d been a democracy).  Even when these women are mentioned in textbooks, it&#8217;s presented like Susan B. Anthony and Alice Paul came up with completely novel ideas with &#8220;votes for women.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Meredith Palmer</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/12/bad-romance-womens-suffrage/comment-page-1/#comment-548349</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meredith Palmer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NWP had women of color coming to meetings, and (trying) to be in protests. It was the NAWSA that outright banned women of color. But remember, this is an educational video made for the classroom. This is not just a random video about the national women&#039;s party. See the lesson plans that are made to go along with the video: http://webtexts.com/browse/titles/1/assignments/483224?demo=short_answer  If there are young women of color watching this video in class (or anywhere), they will not see themselves. They are not represented. To take such a narrow view is naive at best, and bluntly racist at worst.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NWP had women of color coming to meetings, and (trying) to be in protests. It was the NAWSA that outright banned women of color. But remember, this is an educational video made for the classroom. This is not just a random video about the national women&#8217;s party. See the lesson plans that are made to go along with the video: <a href="http://webtexts.com/browse/titles/1/assignments/483224?demo=short_answer " rel="nofollow">http://webtexts.com/browse/titles/1/assignments/483224?demo=short_answer </a> If there are young women of color watching this video in class (or anywhere), they will not see themselves. They are not represented. To take such a narrow view is naive at best, and bluntly racist at worst.</p>
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