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	<title>Comments on: Exotic Dancers in 1890 and the Plump Body Ideal</title>
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		<title>By: naya</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-598526</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nutritionists are not trying to say that every fat person will end up with health issues. They are trying to say that extra fat contributes to health issues. I mean,  fatique is a symptom for diabetes,  but it doesn&#039;t mean every fatigued person has it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nutritionists are not trying to say that every fat person will end up with health issues. They are trying to say that extra fat contributes to health issues. I mean,  fatique is a symptom for diabetes,  but it doesn&#8217;t mean every fatigued person has it.</p>
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		<title>By: naya</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[naya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2015 12:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Peoples perspective on what is overweight have changed over time.  What was once obese is now not obese.  Plus, obese and fat are a tiny bit different. What mean by this is that fat refers to all overweight people shile obese refers to being extremely overweight.  It its just like how red and pink are the same except pink is a very bright red. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peoples perspective on what is overweight have changed over time.  What was once obese is now not obese.  Plus, obese and fat are a tiny bit different. What mean by this is that fat refers to all overweight people shile obese refers to being extremely overweight.  It its just like how red and pink are the same except pink is a very bright red. </p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2014 07:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Im naturally shaped like the woman in the last photo]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im naturally shaped like the woman in the last photo</p>
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		<title>By: Fatphobia: 5 Facts and a Guide for the Disbeliever — Everyday Feminism</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatphobia: 5 Facts and a Guide for the Disbeliever — Everyday Feminism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2014 09:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here — look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here — look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Exotic Dancers in 1890 and the Plump Body Ideal &#124; The FAT experience</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-590055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exotic Dancers in 1890 and the Plump Body Ideal &#124; The FAT experience]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2014 16:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] I thought of Stearns’ book when I came across a delightful collection of photographs of exotic dancers taken in 1890, the year he pinpoints as the beginning of the shift to thinness.  From a contemporary perspective, they would likely be judged as “too fat,” but their plumpness was exactly what made these dancers so desirable at the time. http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/ [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] I thought of Stearns’ book when I came across a delightful collection of photographs of exotic dancers taken in 1890, the year he pinpoints as the beginning of the shift to thinness.  From a contemporary perspective, they would likely be judged as “too fat,” but their plumpness was exactly what made these dancers so desirable at the time. <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: acropunk</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589931</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[acropunk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 19:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Its a matter of physics. More petite women and those with less weight tend to be more acrobatic in bed. But I am always suspicious of ideals. I find more plump body types attractive as well as more slender. It takes extremes of thin and fat to veer into unattractiveness for me. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its a matter of physics. More petite women and those with less weight tend to be more acrobatic in bed. But I am always suspicious of ideals. I find more plump body types attractive as well as more slender. It takes extremes of thin and fat to veer into unattractiveness for me. </p>
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		<title>By: Fatphobia: A Guide For The Disbeliever &#124;</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589930</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatphobia: A Guide For The Disbeliever &#124;]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let’s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let’s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat … we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that “personal preference” is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we’re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it’s not even a consistent one here — look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let’s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let’s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat … we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that “personal preference” is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we’re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it’s not even a consistent one here — look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Fatphobia: A Guide For The Disbeliever &#124; sexynewz.com</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589918</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatphobia: A Guide For The Disbeliever &#124; sexynewz.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 15:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&#8217;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&#8217;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat &#8230; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&#8217;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here &#8212; look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&rsquo;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&rsquo;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat &hellip; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &ldquo;personal preference&rdquo; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&rsquo;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&rsquo;s not even a consistent one here &mdash; look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Panda</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589909</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Panda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2014 03:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah but that&#039;s also a pretty obvious strawman. The original comment sited weights well within bounds of reason. Yet a 180 pound women will face similar stigma as someone who&#039;s 380 pounds by people claiming to be concerned about their health.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah but that&#8217;s also a pretty obvious strawman. The original comment sited weights well within bounds of reason. Yet a 180 pound women will face similar stigma as someone who&#8217;s 380 pounds by people claiming to be concerned about their health.</p>
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		<title>By: Fatphobia: A Guide for the Disbeliever &#124; TOTALENTER10</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589893</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatphobia: A Guide for the Disbeliever &#124; TOTALENTER10]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2014 14:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] 5. The belief that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; exists above and beyond cultural norms is ignorant. First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&#8217;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&#8217;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat&#8230; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&#8217;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here &#8212; look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 5. The belief that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; exists above and beyond cultural norms is ignorant. First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&#8217;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&#8217;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat&#8230; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&#8217;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here &#8212; look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Fatphobia: A Guide for the Disbeliever &#124; Miss Kitty Stryker</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-589670</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fatphobia: A Guide for the Disbeliever &#124; Miss Kitty Stryker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2014 19:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] 5. The belief that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; exists above and beyond cultural norms is ignorant First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&#8217;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&#8217;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat&#8230; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&#8217;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here- look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 5. The belief that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; exists above and beyond cultural norms is ignorant First, let me show you these graphs which suggest what the average BMIs are around the world. Then let&#8217;s add in that in some cultures being fat is seen as attractive. And let&#8217;s add in how beauty is often defined by wealthy white standards, creating unrealistic expectations for, well, everyone else. Finally, how about the fact that as we culturally began to freak out about fat&#8230; we got fatter? How did that work? Anyway, it seems pretty clear that &#8220;personal preference&#8221; is related more to cultural norms than to some biological urge. And this manifests in how we date, how we&#8217;re received, and how people treat our partners. It even manifests in our attraction to other fat people. This is a cultural construct. And it&#8217;s not even a consistent one here- look at these exotic dancers! [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Zlata Sushchik</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-585202</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Zlata Sushchik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jan 2014 20:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] put on that last few pounds because “true beauty includes a full figure.” Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890′s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider “plump” by today’s [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] put on that last few pounds because “true beauty includes a full figure.” Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890′s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider “plump” by today’s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Insane Muscle Gains</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Insane Muscle Gains]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Dec 2013 04:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] that last few pounds because &#8220;true beauty includes a full figure.&#8221;&#160;Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&#8242;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &#8220;plump&#8221; by today&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] that last few pounds because &ldquo;true beauty includes a full figure.&rdquo;&nbsp;Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&prime;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &ldquo;plump&rdquo; by today&rsquo;s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Nerd Fitness</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; Nerd Fitness]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 22:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] on that last few pounds because &#8220;true beauty includes a full figure.&#8221; Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&#8242;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &#8220;plump&#8221; by today&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on that last few pounds because &#8220;true beauty includes a full figure.&#8221; Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&#8242;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &#8220;plump&#8221; by today&#8217;s [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; NewsFitness.net</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2012/03/07/exotic-dancers-in-1890-and-the-plump-body-ideal/comment-page-1/#comment-584046</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[How to Build The Perfect Body: A Discussion on Body Image &#124; NewsFitness.net]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 00:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[&#8230;] on that last few pounds because &#8220;true beauty includes a full figure.&#8221; Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&#8242;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &#8220;plump&#8221; by today&#8217;s [&#8230;]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] on that last few pounds because &#8220;true beauty includes a full figure.&#8221; Or take these photos of dancers from the 1890&#8242;s, an ideal the mainstream media would no doubt consider &#8220;plump&#8221; by today&#8217;s [&#8230;]</p>
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