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		<title>By: friendlysoviet</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[friendlysoviet]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Apr 2013 02:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You don&#039;t know how echo location works, do you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t know how echo location works, do you.</p>
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		<title>By: Hana Grygarova</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hana Grygarova]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Apr 2013 02:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t like these &quot;supercrippy&quot; notions as well. I just find interesting, that after a lesson about bat&#039;s echolocation, and realizing that blind people could use this technique too, I am stumbling upon more and more articles and books concerning blind people echolocating.

I would recommend this book, If someone would like to study echolocation further: http://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-Echolocation-Visually-Impaired/dp/1478371080

And from a computer musicians point of view: Its not a miracle. Its just a reverb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t like these &#8220;supercrippy&#8221; notions as well. I just find interesting, that after a lesson about bat&#8217;s echolocation, and realizing that blind people could use this technique too, I am stumbling upon more and more articles and books concerning blind people echolocating.</p>
<p>I would recommend this book, If someone would like to study echolocation further: <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-Echolocation-Visually-Impaired/dp/1478371080" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Beginners-Guide-Echolocation-Visually-Impaired/dp/1478371080</a></p>
<p>And from a computer musicians point of view: Its not a miracle. Its just a reverb.</p>
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		<title>By: dummie &#124; Dummie YEAH</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dummie &#124; Dummie YEAH]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2012 14:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: 21-30asdasdasd &#124; medmec</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[21-30asdasdasd &#124; medmec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] <a href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/" rel="nofollow">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/</a> [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Verchot Hall</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/comment-page-1/#comment-542676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen Verchot Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ He HAS NO EYES you idiot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> He HAS NO EYES you idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Eileen Verchot Hall</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/comment-page-1/#comment-542675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eileen Verchot Hall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Videogames don&#039;t have sound in russia? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Videogames don&#8217;t have sound in russia? </p>
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		<title>By: eeka</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/comment-page-1/#comment-542641</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eeka]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Exactly. We only want to hear about people with disabilities when they &quot;overcome&quot; them and act like us. We don&#039;t want to hear about the regular-old people with disabilities who we screw over.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly. We only want to hear about people with disabilities when they &#8220;overcome&#8221; them and act like us. We don&#8217;t want to hear about the regular-old people with disabilities who we screw over.  </p>
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		<title>By: Danielgutierrez Gutierrez095</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Danielgutierrez Gutierrez095]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ben is blind but he can hear what objects is around him and can navigate where he needs to go and that i find very amazing.  

you can tell ben has been doing this since the day he was born and can hear everything around him so its possible people may not even notice ben is blind or doesn&#039;t know which direction to go too.

and to top it all off i think hes going to do fine in the future because ben hearing is very accurate and can mostly find what he needs except i dont think he can drive but as long as his friends or family help him he can pretty much work at any job as long as it doesn&#039;t require physical things to do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ben is blind but he can hear what objects is around him and can navigate where he needs to go and that i find very amazing.  </p>
<p>you can tell ben has been doing this since the day he was born and can hear everything around him so its possible people may not even notice ben is blind or doesn&#8217;t know which direction to go too.</p>
<p>and to top it all off i think hes going to do fine in the future because ben hearing is very accurate and can mostly find what he needs except i dont think he can drive but as long as his friends or family help him he can pretty much work at any job as long as it doesn&#8217;t require physical things to do.</p>
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		<title>By: Laura</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Laura]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 19:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To further this point, I think framing the supercrip story this way is supposed to make us think about the individual overcoming their impairment instead of seeing how society disables people with impairments. This is another factor of using the &quot;supercrip&quot; stories to define what disability is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To further this point, I think framing the supercrip story this way is supposed to make us think about the individual overcoming their impairment instead of seeing how society disables people with impairments. This is another factor of using the &#8220;supercrip&#8221; stories to define what disability is.</p>
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		<title>By: Lunad</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lunad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 20:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of the experiments, it is quite likely that the test was repeated many times with different objects (so a rate of success could be calculated and compared to random probability) even though it was only shown once.  Also, given that the scientists were working on navigation tools for the blind, they were probably experimenting to see what shape and size echolocation navigational markers should be - how different do they have to be to be useful, how big should they be, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of the experiments, it is quite likely that the test was repeated many times with different objects (so a rate of success could be calculated and compared to random probability) even though it was only shown once.  Also, given that the scientists were working on navigation tools for the blind, they were probably experimenting to see what shape and size echolocation navigational markers should be &#8211; how different do they have to be to be useful, how big should they be, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Toban Black</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Toban Black]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s a video about another blind guy who can do a sonar-like clicking - http://www.lfpress.com/video/featured/london-and-region/5828787001/blind-man-navigates-like-a-bat/1000681786001
It mentions research and mentorship efforts.

I have no clue how many people would be capable of accomplishing what he can do though (to respond to the comment about &quot;super-cripple stories&quot;).
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a video about another blind guy who can do a sonar-like clicking &#8211; <a href="http://www.lfpress.com/video/featured/london-and-region/5828787001/blind-man-navigates-like-a-bat/1000681786001" rel="nofollow">http://www.lfpress.com/video/featured/london-and-region/5828787001/blind-man-navigates-like-a-bat/1000681786001</a><br />
It mentions research and mentorship efforts.</p>
<p>I have no clue how many people would be capable of accomplishing what he can do though (to respond to the comment about &#8220;super-cripple stories&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was going to mention the same thing. All video games are is light and color. If you are truly blind, it would be impossible to see.

You might as well smell light. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to mention the same thing. All video games are is light and color. If you are truly blind, it would be impossible to see.</p>
<p>You might as well smell light. </p>
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		<title>By: Cdotha</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/12/28/of-what-are-humans-capable/comment-page-1/#comment-527142</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cdotha]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find this more interesting than amazing.  While Ben was able to train himself to see using echo, I think one should remember that this is an actual technique that is used and well understood in many other areas of nature.  I hate the use of the word &quot;miracle&quot; in stories like these, it downplays the somewhat ordinary physics involved in using this technique.

Also, lot of the &quot;experiments&quot; presented in this video are not experiments at all.  Getting him to guess which two objects out of four are the same gives Ben a very high chance of getting it right simply by guessing.

As always with a science related post on this blog, the writer illustrates a poor understanding of what science is about.  &quot;The 10-minute video below suggests that scientists have only begun to understand what humans are capable of.&quot;  Of course we have only begun to understand.  I find that comment smug, in that to me, it implies that scientists claim to have it all figured out.  Any scientist I&#039;ve even spoke to usually points out how little we know, not every scientist is a hack like Ray Kurzweil.

To end on a bittersweet note, Ben seemed like someone who made it his mission to enjoy life.  It&#039;s too bad that his life ended at such a young age as his curious nature and determination is something that we need more of.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find this more interesting than amazing.  While Ben was able to train himself to see using echo, I think one should remember that this is an actual technique that is used and well understood in many other areas of nature.  I hate the use of the word &#8220;miracle&#8221; in stories like these, it downplays the somewhat ordinary physics involved in using this technique.</p>
<p>Also, lot of the &#8220;experiments&#8221; presented in this video are not experiments at all.  Getting him to guess which two objects out of four are the same gives Ben a very high chance of getting it right simply by guessing.</p>
<p>As always with a science related post on this blog, the writer illustrates a poor understanding of what science is about.  &#8220;The 10-minute video below suggests that scientists have only begun to understand what humans are capable of.&#8221;  Of course we have only begun to understand.  I find that comment smug, in that to me, it implies that scientists claim to have it all figured out.  Any scientist I&#8217;ve even spoke to usually points out how little we know, not every scientist is a hack like Ray Kurzweil.</p>
<p>To end on a bittersweet note, Ben seemed like someone who made it his mission to enjoy life.  It&#8217;s too bad that his life ended at such a young age as his curious nature and determination is something that we need more of.</p>
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		<title>By: Legolewdite</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Legolewdite]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Discussions about human Nature and potential are great, but I think it&#039;s important to realize you&#039;re viewing them through the lens of Nuture.  

As for super-cripple stories like these, which seem to be the only interest stories written about the otherly abled, they make me worry for those that don&#039;t live up to such an amazing standard.  Seems it&#039;s always the tale of the one-armed pitcher who still throws a 99 mile/hr fastball or some harrowing triumph over adversity, and rarely is it a, oh hey, I can&#039;t walk and have a boring life with regular, everyday problems, bills to pay same as you.

It&#039;s sort of analogous to what Derrida said on the war against drugs and what Foucault wrote about the Victorian&#039;s chronicling of a range of physical and social abnormalites: we are implicitly and ambiguously defining who we are, what it means to be Human, not in any positivist sense but rather by detailing what we&#039;re against, or at the very least, what is invisible and what is remarkable, what is spectacle, and who is Other...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discussions about human Nature and potential are great, but I think it&#8217;s important to realize you&#8217;re viewing them through the lens of Nuture.  </p>
<p>As for super-cripple stories like these, which seem to be the only interest stories written about the otherly abled, they make me worry for those that don&#8217;t live up to such an amazing standard.  Seems it&#8217;s always the tale of the one-armed pitcher who still throws a 99 mile/hr fastball or some harrowing triumph over adversity, and rarely is it a, oh hey, I can&#8217;t walk and have a boring life with regular, everyday problems, bills to pay same as you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s sort of analogous to what Derrida said on the war against drugs and what Foucault wrote about the Victorian&#8217;s chronicling of a range of physical and social abnormalites: we are implicitly and ambiguously defining who we are, what it means to be Human, not in any positivist sense but rather by detailing what we&#8217;re against, or at the very least, what is invisible and what is remarkable, what is spectacle, and who is Other&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie Elizabeth De Haven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stephanie Elizabeth De Haven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m legally blind without glasses. I have been since birth. I taught myself how to get around using ambient noise until I got glasses (I still use echolocation in dark rooms.) 

Unlike Ben Underwood, my hearing is different than a normal human&#039;s. I hear higher and lower ranges than most people. My hearing has not diminished with age as it should have.

Even without super ears, human echolocation is feasible for anyone who knows what they&#039;re listening for. I think it&#039;s a great tool for the blind and somewhat-sighted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m legally blind without glasses. I have been since birth. I taught myself how to get around using ambient noise until I got glasses (I still use echolocation in dark rooms.) </p>
<p>Unlike Ben Underwood, my hearing is different than a normal human&#8217;s. I hear higher and lower ranges than most people. My hearing has not diminished with age as it should have.</p>
<p>Even without super ears, human echolocation is feasible for anyone who knows what they&#8217;re listening for. I think it&#8217;s a great tool for the blind and somewhat-sighted.</p>
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