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	<title>Comments on: The Self-Fulfilling Prophecy, Celebrity-Style</title>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581301</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those weren&#039;t &quot;cheekbone modifications&quot; but props. And she&#039;s being sued by the artist Orlan (who has real modifications) for appropriation on different accounts (including visuals in a video/on an albumcover etc).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those weren&#8217;t &#8220;cheekbone modifications&#8221; but props. And she&#8217;s being sued by the artist Orlan (who has real modifications) for appropriation on different accounts (including visuals in a video/on an albumcover etc).</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581298</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t find it comes across as self-confidence at all but rather the need to be seen because of insecurity. I always got the impression, especially with this campaign. Looking at the clothing, from well-constructed to mimicking and surface, these thoughts are even more substantiated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t find it comes across as self-confidence at all but rather the need to be seen because of insecurity. I always got the impression, especially with this campaign. Looking at the clothing, from well-constructed to mimicking and surface, these thoughts are even more substantiated.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The still images are too disparate in style for the viewer to get a 
sense of what sort of artistic statement is being made by him&quot;


Very well put.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The still images are too disparate in style for the viewer to get a<br />
sense of what sort of artistic statement is being made by him&#8221;</p>
<p>Very well put.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems all swimming on the surface to me, but then again, that Mugler crew lasted about two years if I remember correctly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems all swimming on the surface to me, but then again, that Mugler crew lasted about two years if I remember correctly.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581295</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What subculture ?  There aren&#039;t really &quot;alternative subcultures&quot; anymore ?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What subculture ?  There aren&#8217;t really &#8220;alternative subcultures&#8221; anymore ?</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-581292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lola]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the time an &quot;artist&quot; called Silvia Ji was &quot;en Vogue&quot; who makes pictures with such faces and the pearly face looks very Leigh Bowery. Mugler, when it was Thierry Mugler, was always known for highly well constructed clothing, when they got the new crew and changed it to Mugler, the construction took a nosedive and it was all much more about surface and image, an image which I think always looked superficial (instead of a deeper message or authentic), as if it went from a brand with a vision and strongly entertaining theatrics (in an oldschool theatrical sense), to vapid image pushing with no substance.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the time an &#8220;artist&#8221; called Silvia Ji was &#8220;en Vogue&#8221; who makes pictures with such faces and the pearly face looks very Leigh Bowery. Mugler, when it was Thierry Mugler, was always known for highly well constructed clothing, when they got the new crew and changed it to Mugler, the construction took a nosedive and it was all much more about surface and image, an image which I think always looked superficial (instead of a deeper message or authentic), as if it went from a brand with a vision and strongly entertaining theatrics (in an oldschool theatrical sense), to vapid image pushing with no substance.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-492329</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My thoughts exactly, I was really bothered that she didn&#039;t apologize for the first article, and then this...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My thoughts exactly, I was really bothered that she didn&#8217;t apologize for the first article, and then this&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-492325</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2011 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, exactly.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, exactly.</p>
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		<title>By: Treefinger</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-488831</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Treefinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could be some combination of bullying, abuse, psychological problems, discrimination based on his lifestyle and appearance (he probably had an &quot;alternative&quot; look before he started getting these tattoos, also I&#039;m sure I read somewhere he had other tattoos that he had tattooed over later), and similar factors. The things that many members of alternative subcultures can experience, even if they have a lot of social privileges like being white, male, straight, etc. I have known and read about many angry young men who suffered from problems like that and ended up with the same hatred Zombie describes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be some combination of bullying, abuse, psychological problems, discrimination based on his lifestyle and appearance (he probably had an &#8220;alternative&#8221; look before he started getting these tattoos, also I&#8217;m sure I read somewhere he had other tattoos that he had tattooed over later), and similar factors. The things that many members of alternative subcultures can experience, even if they have a lot of social privileges like being white, male, straight, etc. I have known and read about many angry young men who suffered from problems like that and ended up with the same hatred Zombie describes.</p>
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		<title>By: Treefinger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Treefinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 02:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sadomasochism has a use outside of the BDSM &quot;safe, sane and consensual&quot; practice. Particularly &quot;sadist&quot; is used negatively against people who commit crimes, murder and torture people against their will because they get a thrill out of it. 

But as a sadist I personally wouldn&#039;t be that bothered if Gaga decided to criticize sadomasochism and BDSM because to be honest there are a lot of problematic aspects to it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadomasochism has a use outside of the BDSM &#8220;safe, sane and consensual&#8221; practice. Particularly &#8220;sadist&#8221; is used negatively against people who commit crimes, murder and torture people against their will because they get a thrill out of it. </p>
<p>But as a sadist I personally wouldn&#8217;t be that bothered if Gaga decided to criticize sadomasochism and BDSM because to be honest there are a lot of problematic aspects to it.</p>
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		<title>By: Treefinger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Treefinger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 01:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I agree with you. Aside from the controversy about the racial elements in the song (and the fact it&#039;s just nowhere near as musically interesting as her previous work) that&#039;s what bothers me most about Born This Way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I agree with you. Aside from the controversy about the racial elements in the song (and the fact it&#8217;s just nowhere near as musically interesting as her previous work) that&#8217;s what bothers me most about Born This Way.</p>
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		<title>By: Suedohnim</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-488533</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Suedohnim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ditto. And this also bugged me the last time. It wouldn&#039;t be that big of a deal except that it&#039;s a continuation of a mistake that was already brought to the writer&#039;s attention. But why am I bothering to comment here - plainly obvious that the writers don&#039;t value the reader&#039;s comments enough to even glance at them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto. And this also bugged me the last time. It wouldn&#8217;t be that big of a deal except that it&#8217;s a continuation of a mistake that was already brought to the writer&#8217;s attention. But why am I bothering to comment here &#8211; plainly obvious that the writers don&#8217;t value the reader&#8217;s comments enough to even glance at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Liss</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Liss]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 12:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Except if he were, say, native American, everyone here would be yelling about racism and the exploitation of his cultural &quot;exoticism&quot; for profit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except if he were, say, native American, everyone here would be yelling about racism and the exploitation of his cultural &#8220;exoticism&#8221; for profit.</p>
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		<title>By: newguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[newguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 18:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Conversations about trans issues are for trans people, end of.&quot;  Is this simply a reaction because you are angry, or do you really mean this?  If you mean it, doesn&#039;t that risk unnecessarily erecting barriers and creating a small and confined world.  If so, that, I assume, would be a real unintended consequence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Conversations about trans issues are for trans people, end of.&#8221;  Is this simply a reaction because you are angry, or do you really mean this?  If you mean it, doesn&#8217;t that risk unnecessarily erecting barriers and creating a small and confined world.  If so, that, I assume, would be a real unintended consequence.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori A</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/04/19/the-self-fulfilling-prophecy-celebrity-style/comment-page-1/#comment-487771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori A]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WHY ARE WE YELLING?!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WHY ARE WE YELLING?!</p>
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