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		<title>By: Doubtful</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doubtful]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 22:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with you through 99% of your thoughts on this. Up until I thought about the idea that Pendleton has been a European-American business (owned by the Bishop family mostly), since at least 1906.  If they represent something special to you because of context, I understand. If they worked well with your community, or the communities of others, that&#039;s exemplary. But it&#039;s a convoluted road to go down and say it&#039;s appropriation. Nor is it new. From the hippies to the hipsters, Pendleton wool plaid shirts have been coveted for years, having absolutely nothing to do with appropriation. Are they authentic plaids of Scotland? I really doubt it. As much as I want to offended, I think history&#039;s more complicated than that. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you through 99% of your thoughts on this. Up until I thought about the idea that Pendleton has been a European-American business (owned by the Bishop family mostly), since at least 1906.  If they represent something special to you because of context, I understand. If they worked well with your community, or the communities of others, that&#8217;s exemplary. But it&#8217;s a convoluted road to go down and say it&#8217;s appropriation. Nor is it new. From the hippies to the hipsters, Pendleton wool plaid shirts have been coveted for years, having absolutely nothing to do with appropriation. Are they authentic plaids of Scotland? I really doubt it. As much as I want to offended, I think history&#8217;s more complicated than that. </p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[homer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 07:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are so right Alexis. The hipster hate is ridiculous. Get a real enemy in your sights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are so right Alexis. The hipster hate is ridiculous. Get a real enemy in your sights.</p>
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		<title>By: homer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[homer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 06:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.</p>
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		<title>By: kristin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kristin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Mar 2011 21:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s really upsetting to me beyond what you stated is that a lot of their products are being made in China.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s really upsetting to me beyond what you stated is that a lot of their products are being made in China.</p>
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		<title>By: nothing is sacred</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nothing is sacred]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 23:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[making major money matters most]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>making major money matters most</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alex]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 16:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://fashion.elle.com/accessories/2011/03/11/natalia-brilli-on-leather-sm-and-american-history/?cid=sm_tw

Refers to Native American influence in her designs as a nod to American history- as if Native Americans are not still around today. Reminded me of this post.

In response to this post, of course you have the right to be upset, but I do think these trends come about because people find a culture beautiful and intriguing and want to be included, not because of any malicious intentions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://fashion.elle.com/accessories/2011/03/11/natalia-brilli-on-leather-sm-and-american-history/?cid=sm_tw" rel="nofollow">http://fashion.elle.com/accessories/2011/03/11/natalia-brilli-on-leather-sm-and-american-history/?cid=sm_tw</a></p>
<p>Refers to Native American influence in her designs as a nod to American history- as if Native Americans are not still around today. Reminded me of this post.</p>
<p>In response to this post, of course you have the right to be upset, but I do think these trends come about because people find a culture beautiful and intriguing and want to be included, not because of any malicious intentions.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pete]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Mar 2011 21:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi,
I&#039;m a bit late to the game on this one but oh well!
I&#039;m a Cayuse &amp; Walla Walla/White mutt who lives in Pendleton, Oregon and while I may not be &quot;Indian Enough&quot; to speak for any tribes, I can tell you that most of us out here don&#039;t get too worked-up about any of this.

In fact, I for one kinda like all the new Pendleton stuff, even if some of it is kinda fugly and certain wealthy people who annoy me wear them. I like that Pendleton is trying to expand their market while keeping a firm hold on the things that made the brand what it is today. The only thing that the factory here makes is blankets. All of the nice ceremonial, commemorative and other special blankets are made right here in the factory next to the hospital my mom was born in and the VFW Hall that my (Siletz) Great-Grandfather helped build. And I&#039;d be lying if I said that didn&#039;t give me a little pride-in-place. When ever I&#039;m somewhere far away from home and I see someone wearing a Pendleton jacket (I can spot one a mile away) or carrying a Pendleton bag I feel a little excited and have to fight the urge to stop that person and say &quot;I LIVE IN PENDLETON!&quot; 

The company itself is not only close to its roots, it has consistently given back more and more as its sales have grown. In fact just today I read that Pendleton has given another $100,000 to the American Indian College Fund. Last year the company released a line of blankets with designs commemorating National Parks with some of the proceeds going to support preservation efforts. Pendleton has always been a strong supporter of the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation and has been central to the many traditions that remain today. 

As for the sacred aspect, I couldn&#039;t say. If I see a white person wearing a native design I know they usually mean no disrespect. I think us Cay-Uma-Wa people are thick-skinned enough that we don&#039;t let little things like this bug us. To me, personally, the only blankets that are sacred are the ones my ancestors were wraped in when they were burried- and I don&#039;t need to worry about hipsters wrapping themselves in those. 

So high-fashion has caught up to Pendleton and rich people are willing to shell-out some money for it now. As far as I&#039;m concerned they can keep raking in that dough and giving it back to our community. I know that my family and friends (yes, even the white ones!) will be warm for many winters to come.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,<br />
I&#8217;m a bit late to the game on this one but oh well!<br />
I&#8217;m a Cayuse &amp; Walla Walla/White mutt who lives in Pendleton, Oregon and while I may not be &#8220;Indian Enough&#8221; to speak for any tribes, I can tell you that most of us out here don&#8217;t get too worked-up about any of this.</p>
<p>In fact, I for one kinda like all the new Pendleton stuff, even if some of it is kinda fugly and certain wealthy people who annoy me wear them. I like that Pendleton is trying to expand their market while keeping a firm hold on the things that made the brand what it is today. The only thing that the factory here makes is blankets. All of the nice ceremonial, commemorative and other special blankets are made right here in the factory next to the hospital my mom was born in and the VFW Hall that my (Siletz) Great-Grandfather helped build. And I&#8217;d be lying if I said that didn&#8217;t give me a little pride-in-place. When ever I&#8217;m somewhere far away from home and I see someone wearing a Pendleton jacket (I can spot one a mile away) or carrying a Pendleton bag I feel a little excited and have to fight the urge to stop that person and say &#8220;I LIVE IN PENDLETON!&#8221; </p>
<p>The company itself is not only close to its roots, it has consistently given back more and more as its sales have grown. In fact just today I read that Pendleton has given another $100,000 to the American Indian College Fund. Last year the company released a line of blankets with designs commemorating National Parks with some of the proceeds going to support preservation efforts. Pendleton has always been a strong supporter of the Confederated Tribes of the Umatilla Indian Reservation and has been central to the many traditions that remain today. </p>
<p>As for the sacred aspect, I couldn&#8217;t say. If I see a white person wearing a native design I know they usually mean no disrespect. I think us Cay-Uma-Wa people are thick-skinned enough that we don&#8217;t let little things like this bug us. To me, personally, the only blankets that are sacred are the ones my ancestors were wraped in when they were burried- and I don&#8217;t need to worry about hipsters wrapping themselves in those. </p>
<p>So high-fashion has caught up to Pendleton and rich people are willing to shell-out some money for it now. As far as I&#8217;m concerned they can keep raking in that dough and giving it back to our community. I know that my family and friends (yes, even the white ones!) will be warm for many winters to come.</p>
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		<title>By: Gregstop</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregstop]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agreed. Nothing is sacred, everything is for sale. If no one ever offended anyone, the world would be culturaly devastated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. Nothing is sacred, everything is for sale. If no one ever offended anyone, the world would be culturaly devastated.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And who is going to be the arbiter of full appreciation?  Who gets to say whether someone is &quot;fully appreciating&quot; something or not?  I mean, really, who are you to tell people what they do and do not appreciate -- or moreover, what they *can* and *cannot* appreciate (both in the sense of permission and possibility)?

I&#039;m getting a little bit sick of the assumptions being made on this thread.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And who is going to be the arbiter of full appreciation?  Who gets to say whether someone is &#8220;fully appreciating&#8221; something or not?  I mean, really, who are you to tell people what they do and do not appreciate &#8212; or moreover, what they *can* and *cannot* appreciate (both in the sense of permission and possibility)?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting a little bit sick of the assumptions being made on this thread.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just want to say thank you, T, for providing this info.  I think it provides some much-needed context and balance to the heap of assumptions being made here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just want to say thank you, T, for providing this info.  I think it provides some much-needed context and balance to the heap of assumptions being made here.</p>
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		<title>By: hypatia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hypatia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not intending it offend does not mean you are not offending. Thinking something is beautiful does not mean you are not offensive. You thinking something is pretty does not mean that you fully appreciate it.

Basic plaid, has no particular meaning. So no, it would not be comparable to sacred symbols being used in commercial products, stripped of meaning. I would understand someone being upset however if a company was trying to sell a family tartan without giving it it&#039;s proper credit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not intending it offend does not mean you are not offending. Thinking something is beautiful does not mean you are not offensive. You thinking something is pretty does not mean that you fully appreciate it.</p>
<p>Basic plaid, has no particular meaning. So no, it would not be comparable to sacred symbols being used in commercial products, stripped of meaning. I would understand someone being upset however if a company was trying to sell a family tartan without giving it it&#8217;s proper credit.</p>
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		<title>By: hypatia</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hypatia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It doesn&#039;t matter that they donated money to the buffalo herd. They still did wrong by the culture to sell a sacred item.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesn&#8217;t matter that they donated money to the buffalo herd. They still did wrong by the culture to sell a sacred item.</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Christina]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 18:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s fashion - people buy it because it&#039;s aesthetically pleasing. i seriously doubt any non-native who buys from pendleton is doing so to offend your heritage.

i understand that maybe some of these designs are culturally more significant to you, but it doesn&#039;t mean that i don&#039;t think they&#039;re beautiful too. i really can only equate this with saying that i think no one should be allowed to wear plaid or tartan unless they&#039;re scottish.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s fashion &#8211; people buy it because it&#8217;s aesthetically pleasing. i seriously doubt any non-native who buys from pendleton is doing so to offend your heritage.</p>
<p>i understand that maybe some of these designs are culturally more significant to you, but it doesn&#8217;t mean that i don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re beautiful too. i really can only equate this with saying that i think no one should be allowed to wear plaid or tartan unless they&#8217;re scottish.</p>
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		<title>By: Claire</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Claire]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By Narragansett, I assume you&#039;re referring to the cheap beer and not the Native American tribe from what is now Rhode Island?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By Narragansett, I assume you&#8217;re referring to the cheap beer and not the Native American tribe from what is now Rhode Island?</p>
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		<title>By: jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jamie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 17:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;So really if you want to get down to it, Pendleton is just as bad, if not worse, than the hipsters running around in “Pendleton” designs.&quot;

I agree. I went to the Pendleton site and priced an outfit they were selling for women. It had that vague Indian hippie look to it, including a fringed denim jacket and a leather &#039;coin&#039; belt. ... it was $1088. 

Pendleton is making these marketing and advertising decisions. Their line of &#039;Ranch Style&#039; clothing is modeled by thin light skinned women with long brown hair (one model does have long red hair). They are selling this &#039;Native&#039; image and have been quite successful.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So really if you want to get down to it, Pendleton is just as bad, if not worse, than the hipsters running around in “Pendleton” designs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree. I went to the Pendleton site and priced an outfit they were selling for women. It had that vague Indian hippie look to it, including a fringed denim jacket and a leather &#8216;coin&#8217; belt. &#8230; it was $1088. </p>
<p>Pendleton is making these marketing and advertising decisions. Their line of &#8216;Ranch Style&#8217; clothing is modeled by thin light skinned women with long brown hair (one model does have long red hair). They are selling this &#8216;Native&#8217; image and have been quite successful.</p>
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