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	<title>Comments on: Vintage Cigarette Ads: &#8220;&#8230;a Lucky Instead of a Sweet&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: The Pee Doesn&#8217;t Lie: 1 in 4 Young Korean women smoke (The Gender Politics of Smoking in South Korea, Part 5) &#124; The Grand Narrative</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Pee Doesn&#8217;t Lie: 1 in 4 Young Korean women smoke (The Gender Politics of Smoking in South Korea, Part 5) &#124; The Grand Narrative]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2012 06:28:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Interestingly, the notion that cigarettes put off hunger was once used to sell cigarettes to men as well as women. I wonder when and why that [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Interestingly, the notion that cigarettes put off hunger was once used to sell cigarettes to men as well as women. I wonder when and why that [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: bbonnn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bbonnn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 17:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And, as you note, the later ads focus exclusively on women&#039;s slimness, but also my recollection of the time (1970s, early 1980s) is that the tobacco companies had discovered the &quot;women vs. men&quot; style of marketing and pitched it to the hilt.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;Virginia slims are the slimmer cigarettes made just for women. They&#039;re tailored slimmer to fit your hands and your lips.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Because that extra 0.5865 centimeters of diameter means the difference between a slim elegant smoking experience, and a ginormous flaming log that you can barely lift to your lady mouth. Emphasis on personalization; we created these for you, because you are special and precious.

Oddly enough, with men, it seems cigarette ads in that era promise wholesome masculinity, such as the Marlboro Man ads, or the Camel guy (before Joe Camel, the Magnum P.I.-looking guy who canoes, camps and rides motorcycles on the beach)

http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/03/1978-ad-for-camel-cigarettes.html

http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1980s.html

Of course, I also recall cigarette ads showing men doing less manly things, like playing tennis with their lady-friends (heteronormativity FTW) and perpetrating wacky hijinks at their friends&#039; houses in the Hamptons. Actually, if I&#039;m remembering correctly, cigarette ads with groups of people usually had only one person smoking, or none (like these: http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1970s.html -- I guess the message, again, was smoking makes you special; or the advertisers didn&#039;t want to show a whole room of people smoking)

Side note: in the spirit of all things turning full circle, this ad features a miraculous cigarette that can be smoked by both men and women: http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/01/1970-ad-for-lm-cigarettes.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And, as you note, the later ads focus exclusively on women&#8217;s slimness, but also my recollection of the time (1970s, early 1980s) is that the tobacco companies had discovered the &#8220;women vs. men&#8221; style of marketing and pitched it to the hilt.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Virginia slims are the slimmer cigarettes made just for women. They&#8217;re tailored slimmer to fit your hands and your lips.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Because that extra 0.5865 centimeters of diameter means the difference between a slim elegant smoking experience, and a ginormous flaming log that you can barely lift to your lady mouth. Emphasis on personalization; we created these for you, because you are special and precious.</p>
<p>Oddly enough, with men, it seems cigarette ads in that era promise wholesome masculinity, such as the Marlboro Man ads, or the Camel guy (before Joe Camel, the Magnum P.I.-looking guy who canoes, camps and rides motorcycles on the beach)</p>
<p><a href="http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/03/1978-ad-for-camel-cigarettes.html" rel="nofollow">http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/03/1978-ad-for-camel-cigarettes.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1980s.html" rel="nofollow">http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1980s.html</a></p>
<p>Of course, I also recall cigarette ads showing men doing less manly things, like playing tennis with their lady-friends (heteronormativity FTW) and perpetrating wacky hijinks at their friends&#8217; houses in the Hamptons. Actually, if I&#8217;m remembering correctly, cigarette ads with groups of people usually had only one person smoking, or none (like these: <a href="http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1970s.html" rel="nofollow">http://indymotorspeedway.com/cigs/1970s.html</a> &#8212; I guess the message, again, was smoking makes you special; or the advertisers didn&#8217;t want to show a whole room of people smoking)</p>
<p>Side note: in the spirit of all things turning full circle, this ad features a miraculous cigarette that can be smoked by both men and women: <a href="http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/01/1970-ad-for-lm-cigarettes.html" rel="nofollow">http://pzrservices.typepad.com/vintageadvertising/2010/01/1970-ad-for-lm-cigarettes.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bagelsan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 08:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The one with the male hurdler made me laugh -- yeah, if you&#039;re trying to keep in great athletic shape you maaaybe don&#039;t wanna take up smoking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one with the male hurdler made me laugh &#8212; yeah, if you&#8217;re trying to keep in great athletic shape you maaaybe don&#8217;t wanna take up smoking.</p>
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[K]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder why the woman on the diving board is wearing shoes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder why the woman on the diving board is wearing shoes.</p>
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		<title>By: Simone Lovelace</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simone Lovelace]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 16:27:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re a statistical anomaly, my friend.  CSmokers--on average--weigh about five pounds less than non-smokers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re a statistical anomaly, my friend.  CSmokers&#8211;on average&#8211;weigh about five pounds less than non-smokers.</p>
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		<title>By: Megz</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Megz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 05:33:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thats why i started.  i was 17.  and i actually lost 40 pounds after i started smoking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats why i started.  i was 17.  and i actually lost 40 pounds after i started smoking.</p>
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		<title>By: andie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 04:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure how many people start with that in mind, but I&#039;ve definitely heard it used on more than one occasion as a reason not to quit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure how many people start with that in mind, but I&#8217;ve definitely heard it used on more than one occasion as a reason not to quit.</p>
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		<title>By: Beau Weston</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Beau Weston]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know if girls start smoking today with appetite suppression as an explicit motivation? I have heard women give that reason, but since most smokers start as teens, I don&#039;t know if that is part of the initial motivation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone know if girls start smoking today with appetite suppression as an explicit motivation? I have heard women give that reason, but since most smokers start as teens, I don&#8217;t know if that is part of the initial motivation.</p>
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		<title>By: zo</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[zo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 03:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[humbug I say. I&#039;ve been smoking for over a year now (not very much mind you 2 a day at most) and I&#039;ve gained weight.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>humbug I say. I&#8217;ve been smoking for over a year now (not very much mind you 2 a day at most) and I&#8217;ve gained weight.</p>
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		<title>By: Leif</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Leif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 02:15:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did anyone else notice that the earlier ads (above Virginia Slims) show figures that are fuller than the very very slender figures in the Virginia Slims ads? This series shows the shifting ideal weight expectations in U.S. society.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone else notice that the earlier ads (above Virginia Slims) show figures that are fuller than the very very slender figures in the Virginia Slims ads? This series shows the shifting ideal weight expectations in U.S. society.</p>
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		<title>By: thewhatifgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[thewhatifgirl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 00:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It probably did keep her alive.  This is, of course, anecdotal, but my grandmother (born in the 30s sometime) refused to stop smoking because she didn&#039;t want to get fat.  She died about 5 years ago from complications from smoking.  All of the other women in my family, who either smoked much less than she did or not at all, lived at least into their late 80s.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It probably did keep her alive.  This is, of course, anecdotal, but my grandmother (born in the 30s sometime) refused to stop smoking because she didn&#8217;t want to get fat.  She died about 5 years ago from complications from smoking.  All of the other women in my family, who either smoked much less than she did or not at all, lived at least into their late 80s.</p>
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		<title>By: Meera</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meera]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 21:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of course smoking helps keep you slim -- how many people with lung cancer are able to gain weight?

Actually, the significant reduction in smoking rates over the past several decades is thought by many to be a factor in the small increase in average body adult weight (as well as the increase in average lifespan) during that same period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course smoking helps keep you slim &#8212; how many people with lung cancer are able to gain weight?</p>
<p>Actually, the significant reduction in smoking rates over the past several decades is thought by many to be a factor in the small increase in average body adult weight (as well as the increase in average lifespan) during that same period.</p>
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		<title>By: moose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[moose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 20:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My mom started smoking in the 1950s on the advice of her doctor, who told her it would help her keep her weight down.

She quit, cold turkey [the only way, really, at the time] in 1967.  Probably wouldn&#039;t be alive today if she&#039;d kept going.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom started smoking in the 1950s on the advice of her doctor, who told her it would help her keep her weight down.</p>
<p>She quit, cold turkey [the only way, really, at the time] in 1967.  Probably wouldn&#8217;t be alive today if she&#8217;d kept going.</p>
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		<title>By: Nijuro</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nijuro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol I&#039;M toasted!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol I&#8217;M toasted!</p>
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		<title>By: andie</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kind of funny that years later people recommend candy and gum to help avoid smoking.  How the tables have turned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kind of funny that years later people recommend candy and gum to help avoid smoking.  How the tables have turned.</p>
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