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	<title>Comments on: Celebrities are Narcissistic!</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-308387</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2010 18:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also worth taking into consideration:  the fact that &quot;Dr. Drew&quot; is a gigantic douchebag!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also worth taking into consideration:  the fact that &#8220;Dr. Drew&#8221; is a gigantic douchebag!</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-307780</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Phil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 23:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d certainly agree. The most talented, and sometimes successful, people I meet are also the most self-effacing. FWIW, I scored 1. There seems to be no satisfactory middle-ground in the quiz - the &#039;narcissist&#039; options all seem, to me, vulgar, arrogant, sociopathic and generally repellent.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d certainly agree. The most talented, and sometimes successful, people I meet are also the most self-effacing. FWIW, I scored 1. There seems to be no satisfactory middle-ground in the quiz &#8211; the &#8216;narcissist&#8217; options all seem, to me, vulgar, arrogant, sociopathic and generally repellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-305444</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 00:57:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For everyone commenting on the quiz/their quiz scores (also highly relevant to the study described in the post): &quot;self-report measures of narcissism show virtually no correlation with [clinician] reports, suggesting considerable biases in the self-descriptions of narcissistic individuals.&quot;
http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/165/11/1473]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For everyone commenting on the quiz/their quiz scores (also highly relevant to the study described in the post): &#8220;self-report measures of narcissism show virtually no correlation with [clinician] reports, suggesting considerable biases in the self-descriptions of narcissistic individuals.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/165/11/1473" rel="nofollow">http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/abstract/165/11/1473</a></p>
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		<title>By: splack</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-305092</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[splack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 18:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I got a 2...  :/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got a 2&#8230;  :/</p>
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		<title>By: eduardo</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eduardo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 09:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This was fun!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha C</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304611</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Samantha C]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 07:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it&#039;s highly possible that people who are already more self-confident are going to have an easier time breaking into a highly competitive creative field. I remember the day that I realized I couldn&#039;t be a professional actress or singer, because at some point too many failed auditions would just kill my self-esteem altogether. I scored a 5 on the test. You have to be very secure in yourself already to be able to brush off the inevitable failures that come before all the success.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s highly possible that people who are already more self-confident are going to have an easier time breaking into a highly competitive creative field. I remember the day that I realized I couldn&#8217;t be a professional actress or singer, because at some point too many failed auditions would just kill my self-esteem altogether. I scored a 5 on the test. You have to be very secure in yourself already to be able to brush off the inevitable failures that come before all the success.</p>
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		<title>By: Ariel</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304607</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ariel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 06:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Among other huge issues with that quiz, I just think its sad that saying you&#039;re a special person puts you into the category &quot;superior.&quot;  I know from the stand point of sociology we&#039;re all not that special, but thinking we are can have its benefits, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among other huge issues with that quiz, I just think its sad that saying you&#8217;re a special person puts you into the category &#8220;superior.&#8221;  I know from the stand point of sociology we&#8217;re all not that special, but thinking we are can have its benefits, right?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304500</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 04:06:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The more interesting finding from that study was that the period in the celebrity&#039;s career had no impact on levels of narcissism. That is to say, the celebrity life didn&#039;t make them narcissists; they came into celebrity with their narcissism already in place and celebrity did nothing to increase it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The more interesting finding from that study was that the period in the celebrity&#8217;s career had no impact on levels of narcissism. That is to say, the celebrity life didn&#8217;t make them narcissists; they came into celebrity with their narcissism already in place and celebrity did nothing to increase it.</p>
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		<title>By: special</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304405</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[special]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 01:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my decent self-esteem just got me one of the highest scores possible  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my decent self-esteem just got me one of the highest scores possible  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Duckrabbit</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Duckrabbit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 01:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[These questions are very poorly worded! For instance, the fifth and sixth items:

The thought of ruling the world frightens the hell out of me.
If I ruled the world it would be a better place.

I can usually talk my way out of anything.
I try to accept the consequences of my behavior.

Can&#039;t both be true?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These questions are very poorly worded! For instance, the fifth and sixth items:</p>
<p>The thought of ruling the world frightens the hell out of me.<br />
If I ruled the world it would be a better place.</p>
<p>I can usually talk my way out of anything.<br />
I try to accept the consequences of my behavior.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t both be true?</p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304371</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ted]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 00:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This survey fails for its low N on some of the professions.  You need at least and N of 30 (others are 120) for it to be considered a sample representative of the population.  With an N of less than 30 you need to assume normal distribution, and I&#039;m not sure if Loveline guests are exactly normally distributed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This survey fails for its low N on some of the professions.  You need at least and N of 30 (others are 120) for it to be considered a sample representative of the population.  With an N of less than 30 you need to assume normal distribution, and I&#8217;m not sure if Loveline guests are exactly normally distributed.</p>
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		<title>By: b</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 00:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, the higher up you go on any scale of ability or achievement of any kind - from IQ to driving - the more people tend to underestimate their own abilities. While people who are average or a bit below tend to overestimate themselves (people who are very low often have a slightly more realistic view, I guess at some point it gets hard to lie to yourself). So even if someone who is at the top of their field sees themselves as truly exceptional, while it is realistic it is also somewhat abnormal.

Also, only a couple of the subscales apply to someone who just sees themselves as very capable/talented - heck, I scored high on that one and thought I&#039;d score as narcissistic overall, but wound up with an 11 total. I just think I&#039;m really smart. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the higher up you go on any scale of ability or achievement of any kind &#8211; from IQ to driving &#8211; the more people tend to underestimate their own abilities. While people who are average or a bit below tend to overestimate themselves (people who are very low often have a slightly more realistic view, I guess at some point it gets hard to lie to yourself). So even if someone who is at the top of their field sees themselves as truly exceptional, while it is realistic it is also somewhat abnormal.</p>
<p>Also, only a couple of the subscales apply to someone who just sees themselves as very capable/talented &#8211; heck, I scored high on that one and thought I&#8217;d score as narcissistic overall, but wound up with an 11 total. I just think I&#8217;m really smart. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Kate</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304112</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Or maybe you are an exceptional realist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Or maybe you are an exceptional realist.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Kate</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304110</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dr Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This also ignores the fact that it isn&#039;t exactly odd for people who have accomplished a great deal and excel in certain areas of life to rate themselves as exceptional - because they are!  If you have the grades and scores to get into an MBA program, or you have managed to become famous for your artistic accomplishments, or you have a 200IQ and a PhD from a prestigious research program, why is it narcissistic to acknowledge that?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This also ignores the fact that it isn&#8217;t exactly odd for people who have accomplished a great deal and excel in certain areas of life to rate themselves as exceptional &#8211; because they are!  If you have the grades and scores to get into an MBA program, or you have managed to become famous for your artistic accomplishments, or you have a 200IQ and a PhD from a prestigious research program, why is it narcissistic to acknowledge that?</p>
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		<title>By: Acediance</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/28/breaking-news-celebrities-are-narcissistic/comment-page-1/#comment-304087</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Acediance]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 19:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know how much this quiz can actually tell you.  I&#039;ve met a few narcissistic types in my life and the trouble is that they don&#039;t see themselves as narcissistic.  They think they&#039;re doing the world a favor, and they may have SUCH a distorted vision of themselves that they picture themselves as saintly and fill out the questions accordingly.  I scored a 9 (lol, low), but that doesn&#039;t tell me anything.  I could have a very low sense of self.  On the other hand, if I were really narcissistic, I could be subconsciously lying to myself and filling out the form to my own benefit, knowing what answers I *should* pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how much this quiz can actually tell you.  I&#8217;ve met a few narcissistic types in my life and the trouble is that they don&#8217;t see themselves as narcissistic.  They think they&#8217;re doing the world a favor, and they may have SUCH a distorted vision of themselves that they picture themselves as saintly and fill out the questions accordingly.  I scored a 9 (lol, low), but that doesn&#8217;t tell me anything.  I could have a very low sense of self.  On the other hand, if I were really narcissistic, I could be subconsciously lying to myself and filling out the form to my own benefit, knowing what answers I *should* pick.</p>
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