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	<title>Comments on: What Do Indian People, Architecture, and Nature Have in Common?</title>
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		<title>By: Mathé Kamsutchom</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mathé Kamsutchom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Anthropologie customer is always represented as the anglo-saxon tourist, I wish for once it was the native.  I&#039;d feel a little more represented, I&#039;d feel like the clothes were made for me as well. They go to Portugal and use the same model, Asia and it&#039;s the same model, these countries have beautiful women!! How gorgeous would a more diverse shoot have been! Still love the brand though!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Anthropologie customer is always represented as the anglo-saxon tourist, I wish for once it was the native.  I&#8217;d feel a little more represented, I&#8217;d feel like the clothes were made for me as well. They go to Portugal and use the same model, Asia and it&#8217;s the same model, these countries have beautiful women!! How gorgeous would a more diverse shoot have been! Still love the brand though!</p>
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		<title>By: Rookie &#187; Literally the Best Thing Ever: M.I.A.</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-562701</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rookie &#187; Literally the Best Thing Ever: M.I.A.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 19:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] even tell you what it meant to me to FINALLY see a photo of a brown woman who wasn’t dressed in “native” or “indigenous” garb, talking about being a Tamil refugee from Sri Lanka and the brutal, systematic, state-sponsored [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] even tell you what it meant to me to FINALLY see a photo of a brown woman who wasn’t dressed in “native” or “indigenous” garb, talking about being a Tamil refugee from Sri Lanka and the brutal, systematic, state-sponsored [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 19:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that the issue here is about the ethical nature of photography. I believe that what we should be focusing on in the discussion is how all three, nature, architecture and people, are used to exoticize and bring contrast between the woman in the photo and the environment that she is being photographed in. Yes, I do agree that the architectural and natural scenes in India are some of the most beautiful in the world, but I think that we need to remember that the country that they are a part of. This country happens to be one of the poorest and most stratified countries in the world. Using this as a way to sell Anthropologie clothing is quite offensive in my opinion. Considering that a third of the world&#039;s poor are believed to be in India, living on less than $2 per day. 


Read more: http://www.articlesbase.com/politics-articles/410-million-indians-living-below-poverty-line-and-they-are-being-acclaimed-as-the-emerging-super-power-2834694.html#ixzz187IClHUU 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that the issue here is about the ethical nature of photography. I believe that what we should be focusing on in the discussion is how all three, nature, architecture and people, are used to exoticize and bring contrast between the woman in the photo and the environment that she is being photographed in. Yes, I do agree that the architectural and natural scenes in India are some of the most beautiful in the world, but I think that we need to remember that the country that they are a part of. This country happens to be one of the poorest and most stratified countries in the world. Using this as a way to sell Anthropologie clothing is quite offensive in my opinion. Considering that a third of the world&#8217;s poor are believed to be in India, living on less than $2 per day. </p>
<p>Read more: <a href="http://www.articlesbase.com/politics-articles/410-million-indians-living-below-poverty-line-and-they-are-being-acclaimed-as-the-emerging-super-power-2834694.html#ixzz187IClHUU" rel="nofollow">http://www.articlesbase.com/politics-articles/410-million-indians-living-below-poverty-line-and-they-are-being-acclaimed-as-the-emerging-super-power-2834694.html#ixzz187IClHUU</a><br />
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		<title>By: More Fetishization of Black Bodies as Fashion Props (Mildly NSFW) &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-292912</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[More Fetishization of Black Bodies as Fashion Props (Mildly NSFW) &#187; Sociological Images]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 15:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] other examples, see the porn producer with a heart of gold, interracial dating as tourism, Indian people as props, Africans as props, and Africa is wild.  var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;       17 Comments     Tags: [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] other examples, see the porn producer with a heart of gold, interracial dating as tourism, Indian people as props, Africans as props, and Africa is wild.  var addthis_language = &#39;en&#39;;       17 Comments     Tags: [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: reena</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-290489</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reena]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 12:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[as an indian i dont really agree with the way you have approached this photo shoot,especially the comments.first of all, brown skin is attractive.may be we have a lot of poor people in our country but that is hardly reason enough to feel sooo sorry for us. there are many more problems in life besides poverty.there may be many village people who are satisfied with their simple lives. the guy on the bicycle is obviously very happy to have a pretty woman sitting besides him.aren&#039;t men the same everywhere? even indian fashion designers often take such pictures.no need to feel so guilty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as an indian i dont really agree with the way you have approached this photo shoot,especially the comments.first of all, brown skin is attractive.may be we have a lot of poor people in our country but that is hardly reason enough to feel sooo sorry for us. there are many more problems in life besides poverty.there may be many village people who are satisfied with their simple lives. the guy on the bicycle is obviously very happy to have a pretty woman sitting besides him.aren&#8217;t men the same everywhere? even indian fashion designers often take such pictures.no need to feel so guilty.</p>
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		<title>By: asada</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-290177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[asada]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[sigh...I didnt even have to read to know it was anthropologie. Ugh.
I just...saw it. It looked so much like anthro.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sigh&#8230;I didnt even have to read to know it was anthropologie. Ugh.<br />
I just&#8230;saw it. It looked so much like anthro.</p>
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		<title>By: Three Things &#171; Lindsey in Feminism</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-290083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Three Things &#171; Lindsey in Feminism]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 17:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Second: Do you like shopping at Anthropologie? Next time you want to go there, remember this. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Second: Do you like shopping at Anthropologie? Next time you want to go there, remember this. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dissenter</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-290041</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dissenter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 15:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s fine, we can go on documenting and archiving instances such as these.

My objection, as I mentioned, is how the Indians are being perceived by the person who posted this and in the comments as well. You treat the Other as a given, solid taken-for-granted category. Using phrases such as &quot;poverty-stricken countries&quot;  &quot;economic contrast&quot; etc., you seem to not have the conceptual nuance to tackle difference. You only seem to see difference through glasses which have economic lenses supported by Western liberal frames. Is the guy on the bike really a backdrop? Come on... Ok, fine, maybe it&#039;s not an easy answer. Who really looks more ridiculous? Who really is the prop here? These aren&#039;t easy to answer.  In this particular shoot, I would question whether people are being used as &quot;backdrop&quot;, and if they are, then what would one say about the Vogue shoot, where the people are front and centre? In perpetually pointing to how &quot;offensive&quot; these images are, perhaps we occlude other ways of understanding what might be going on. 

Also, the quoted statement: “I found it especially insensitive to shoot advertisements for $78 t-shirts in a country that is home to a third of the world’s poor.” It seems like this is the only way you can define my country. And I am offended by THAT. Can we have a different understanding of the Other besides an outdated class-based framework? Not that we need to ignore class/economic categories, but to realise that they are only ONE way of thinking about difference. 

People in India, and dare I say it, people in these images, perhaps do not always define themselves in this way and for you to consistently to do so is an immensely reductive way of understanding what these also photos hint at. Perhaps a little Michel de Certeau would be required here to think through questions of difference. 

As to your point about &quot;tasteless&quot;, well, &quot;taste&quot; is not neutral and is something that might be worth steering clear of. 

My point is, as I have mentioned in my first post, that you seem to reinforce the very narrative that perhaps you could consider critiquing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s fine, we can go on documenting and archiving instances such as these.</p>
<p>My objection, as I mentioned, is how the Indians are being perceived by the person who posted this and in the comments as well. You treat the Other as a given, solid taken-for-granted category. Using phrases such as &#8220;poverty-stricken countries&#8221;  &#8220;economic contrast&#8221; etc., you seem to not have the conceptual nuance to tackle difference. You only seem to see difference through glasses which have economic lenses supported by Western liberal frames. Is the guy on the bike really a backdrop? Come on&#8230; Ok, fine, maybe it&#8217;s not an easy answer. Who really looks more ridiculous? Who really is the prop here? These aren&#8217;t easy to answer.  In this particular shoot, I would question whether people are being used as &#8220;backdrop&#8221;, and if they are, then what would one say about the Vogue shoot, where the people are front and centre? In perpetually pointing to how &#8220;offensive&#8221; these images are, perhaps we occlude other ways of understanding what might be going on. </p>
<p>Also, the quoted statement: “I found it especially insensitive to shoot advertisements for $78 t-shirts in a country that is home to a third of the world’s poor.” It seems like this is the only way you can define my country. And I am offended by THAT. Can we have a different understanding of the Other besides an outdated class-based framework? Not that we need to ignore class/economic categories, but to realise that they are only ONE way of thinking about difference. </p>
<p>People in India, and dare I say it, people in these images, perhaps do not always define themselves in this way and for you to consistently to do so is an immensely reductive way of understanding what these also photos hint at. Perhaps a little Michel de Certeau would be required here to think through questions of difference. </p>
<p>As to your point about &#8220;tasteless&#8221;, well, &#8220;taste&#8221; is not neutral and is something that might be worth steering clear of. </p>
<p>My point is, as I have mentioned in my first post, that you seem to reinforce the very narrative that perhaps you could consider critiquing.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepti</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-290014</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deepti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 14:35:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dissenter, I don&#039;t think that the authors are suggesting that the Indians in these photos are being exploited- in fact, most of them look fairly amused- but that does not make the photos any less tasteless (especially the last one, which is undeniably offensive given the colonialist connotations), or change the fact that the local people are being used as scenery. Soc Images regularly points out the use of non-white people as background for white models; this is merely an examination of reality, and not a product of Western guilt as you suggest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dissenter, I don&#8217;t think that the authors are suggesting that the Indians in these photos are being exploited- in fact, most of them look fairly amused- but that does not make the photos any less tasteless (especially the last one, which is undeniably offensive given the colonialist connotations), or change the fact that the local people are being used as scenery. Soc Images regularly points out the use of non-white people as background for white models; this is merely an examination of reality, and not a product of Western guilt as you suggest.</p>
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		<title>By: Dissenter</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-289475</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dissenter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 16:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find it unfortunate how convenient and lazy this post is. It seems that all you can do is provide us with a data dump of empirical evidence that supports an impeccable, bleeding-heart, (Western) liberal position. Don&#039;t you think that the world works in far more complex ways?  

Let me say that I do not care much at all for these images and what they are trying to do/sell nor am I excited by the manner in which they are trying to do it. You are aware, I&#039;m sure, of the Vogue India shoot from last year (?). This particular set of photographs is hardly as offensive. Although I can see part of your point. However, there is a lot that this point of view obscures.

What I am particularly struck by, is the manner in which you approach anything that is &quot;Other&quot; to you. Could you put aside the guilt-ridden glasses for just a minute and just LOOK at these images? What does a response such as this add to what we already know? Perhaps it is something this blog should reflect upon.  

My main problem is that you (and most of the comments here) seem to only view the Other as passive, &quot;poverty-stricken&quot;, &quot;a glamorous backdrop&quot; or, even worse, &quot;poor&quot;. It is almost as if anyone who is dark or dressed differently from you or from a &quot;poverty stricken country&quot; = any of the above. Do not get me wrong, I certainly understand the need for sensitivity towards the Other, and am aware that the &#039;whole world becomes visible at the same time that it becomes appropriable&#039;, however, when you consistently view and frame the Other as passive, lacking agency, exploited etc. you seem to be re-constructing precisely the narrative that you aim to critique. You consistently strip them of the dignity and intelligence that you would want to assign to them, rendering them mute.

I don&#039;t mean to offend anyone here, I am a regular visitor to this blog... however, I just HAD to say this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it unfortunate how convenient and lazy this post is. It seems that all you can do is provide us with a data dump of empirical evidence that supports an impeccable, bleeding-heart, (Western) liberal position. Don&#8217;t you think that the world works in far more complex ways?  </p>
<p>Let me say that I do not care much at all for these images and what they are trying to do/sell nor am I excited by the manner in which they are trying to do it. You are aware, I&#8217;m sure, of the Vogue India shoot from last year (?). This particular set of photographs is hardly as offensive. Although I can see part of your point. However, there is a lot that this point of view obscures.</p>
<p>What I am particularly struck by, is the manner in which you approach anything that is &#8220;Other&#8221; to you. Could you put aside the guilt-ridden glasses for just a minute and just LOOK at these images? What does a response such as this add to what we already know? Perhaps it is something this blog should reflect upon.  </p>
<p>My main problem is that you (and most of the comments here) seem to only view the Other as passive, &#8220;poverty-stricken&#8221;, &#8220;a glamorous backdrop&#8221; or, even worse, &#8220;poor&#8221;. It is almost as if anyone who is dark or dressed differently from you or from a &#8220;poverty stricken country&#8221; = any of the above. Do not get me wrong, I certainly understand the need for sensitivity towards the Other, and am aware that the &#8216;whole world becomes visible at the same time that it becomes appropriable&#8217;, however, when you consistently view and frame the Other as passive, lacking agency, exploited etc. you seem to be re-constructing precisely the narrative that you aim to critique. You consistently strip them of the dignity and intelligence that you would want to assign to them, rendering them mute.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to offend anyone here, I am a regular visitor to this blog&#8230; however, I just HAD to say this.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 21:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[so glad to know i&#039;m not the only one who got a little queasy over the current anthropologie catalogue.  not cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so glad to know i&#8217;m not the only one who got a little queasy over the current anthropologie catalogue.  not cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Vidya</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-288986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vidya]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 20:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a Hindu, I find the use of religious buildings as &#039;backdrops&#039; for fashion modeling quite offensive. Even worse, at least a couple of those photos feature scantily clad (short skirts, sleeveless tops) women in/near temples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Hindu, I find the use of religious buildings as &#8216;backdrops&#8217; for fashion modeling quite offensive. Even worse, at least a couple of those photos feature scantily clad (short skirts, sleeveless tops) women in/near temples.</p>
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		<title>By: Anu</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 15:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah I have to agree. I love Anthropologie&#039;s clothes but was extremely disappointed by this last catalog, especially as an Indian girl who was actually a little excited that they were featuring India in this month&#039;s catalog. I meant to bring it to your attention as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah I have to agree. I love Anthropologie&#8217;s clothes but was extremely disappointed by this last catalog, especially as an Indian girl who was actually a little excited that they were featuring India in this month&#8217;s catalog. I meant to bring it to your attention as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Deepti</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/05/07/what-do-indian-people-architecture-and-nature-have-in-common/comment-page-1/#comment-288797</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deepti]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 13:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The last picture is INCREDIBLY insensitive, given India&#039;s colonial history.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last picture is INCREDIBLY insensitive, given India&#8217;s colonial history.</p>
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		<title>By: Vanessa</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vanessa]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 05:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps the woman and young girl in the final photo are reacting to how utterly inappropriate the model&#039;s clothing is in India.  Having studied abroad there for a time, I can&#039;t imagine walking around with uncovered ankles, uncovered shoulders, tight shirts, and without a long scarf.  Not to mention wearing a bathing suit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the woman and young girl in the final photo are reacting to how utterly inappropriate the model&#8217;s clothing is in India.  Having studied abroad there for a time, I can&#8217;t imagine walking around with uncovered ankles, uncovered shoulders, tight shirts, and without a long scarf.  Not to mention wearing a bathing suit.</p>
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