<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:creativeCommons="http://backend.userland.com/creativeCommonsRssModule"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Media, Race, &amp; Web 2.0</title>
	<atom:link href="http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/</link>
	<description>Sociological Images encourages people to exercise and develop their sociological imaginations with discussions of compelling visuals that span the breadth of sociological inquiry.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 May 2012 20:40:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	
	<item>
		<title>By: Miss M</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-256693</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 11:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-256693</guid>
		<description>This is one point I was trying to make. Of course it&#039;s still not much better, but at least when we categorize by country of origin as opposed to race, we&#039;re lumping people together into a culture and a general way of life rather than lumping them in to a generic name that doesn&#039;t come close to explaining anything about the people. The concept of race, as is, baffles me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one point I was trying to make. Of course it&#8217;s still not much better, but at least when we categorize by country of origin as opposed to race, we&#8217;re lumping people together into a culture and a general way of life rather than lumping them in to a generic name that doesn&#8217;t come close to explaining anything about the people. The concept of race, as is, baffles me.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lemmons998</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-256520</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemmons998</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-256520</guid>
		<description>... not that either is good of course, but all this discussion is speaking about it as if the main characters were random, generic black people, and it was specifically about Jamaica and Jamaicans. 

... or maybe I&#039;m just weird in that I categorized them by country instead of color? But really, I feel that if we were talking about a movie solely about the Irish or something, I feel like we wouldn&#039;t be talking about people&#039;s attitudes towards &quot;white people,&quot; it would be about people&#039;s attitudes towards &quot;Irish people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; not that either is good of course, but all this discussion is speaking about it as if the main characters were random, generic black people, and it was specifically about Jamaica and Jamaicans. </p>
<p>&#8230; or maybe I&#8217;m just weird in that I categorized them by country instead of color? But really, I feel that if we were talking about a movie solely about the Irish or something, I feel like we wouldn&#8217;t be talking about people&#8217;s attitudes towards &#8220;white people,&#8221; it would be about people&#8217;s attitudes towards &#8220;Irish people.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lemmons998</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-256519</link>
		<dc:creator>Lemmons998</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Apr 2010 05:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-256519</guid>
		<description>A little late on the commenting here, but from my (white American) perspective of loving the movie as a kid, I definitely formed stereotypes of Jamaican people rather than a generic &quot;black people.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little late on the commenting here, but from my (white American) perspective of loving the movie as a kid, I definitely formed stereotypes of Jamaican people rather than a generic &#8220;black people.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-255004</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Mar 2010 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-255004</guid>
		<description>There was another blog post here about an increase of black-face costumes, particularly in college parties. Here in Ireland where we do not have US race dynamics, something similar is happening with chav-parties, where middle to upper class students dress and act like lower-class stereotypes. 

I think this trend of being knowingly offensive is not exclusive to race, but rather a growing trend towards breaking norms on what is vulgar or bad in society primarily for the sake of breaking the norm.

South Park summarises this nicely. They choose to insult the sensibilities of everyone, including whites, lower/upper class groups, various nationalities and races; the list is long. I am not saying South Park is responsible, but rather it is reflective of a growing hunger to reject what is broadly described as political correctness (a term which is increasingly used as a slur). This desire to be entirely insensitive is also visible in the majority of anonymous internet comments, which usually degrade to outrageous flaming.

Im not entirely sure though, I&#039;d love to hear peoples thoughts on this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was another blog post here about an increase of black-face costumes, particularly in college parties. Here in Ireland where we do not have US race dynamics, something similar is happening with chav-parties, where middle to upper class students dress and act like lower-class stereotypes. </p>
<p>I think this trend of being knowingly offensive is not exclusive to race, but rather a growing trend towards breaking norms on what is vulgar or bad in society primarily for the sake of breaking the norm.</p>
<p>South Park summarises this nicely. They choose to insult the sensibilities of everyone, including whites, lower/upper class groups, various nationalities and races; the list is long. I am not saying South Park is responsible, but rather it is reflective of a growing hunger to reject what is broadly described as political correctness (a term which is increasingly used as a slur). This desire to be entirely insensitive is also visible in the majority of anonymous internet comments, which usually degrade to outrageous flaming.</p>
<p>Im not entirely sure though, I&#8217;d love to hear peoples thoughts on this</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Miss M</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-253136</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 21:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-253136</guid>
		<description>&quot;Does it strike you, though, as precisely the dynamic that Dr. Walcott is addressing that you lived in an exclusively white place, yet were taught that Canada was multicultural, while never expecting that any of those theoretical multicultural people might be expected to live in your own town? Isn’t this precisely what he means about the assumption that black people do not truly belong?&quot;

I&#039;m not sure I understand this. To clarify, are you saying that it&#039;s wrong that we were taught to be accepting of other cultures while not living in a multicultural town? Because I&#039;m not quite sure what could have been done to encourage more multiculturalism in a town. I know that multiculturalism was slowly spreading to my town because of people trying to move out of the Toronto suburbs, but I&#039;m not really sure why my experiences are being invalidated because I grew up in a town that wasn&#039;t as multicultural as I&#039;d have liked.

And yes, of course, everyone has their own experiences, no matter what race or culture they&#039;re from. It&#039;s likely that the professor has experienced racism; to what degree, only they could say. However, he&#039;s living in an extremely diverse city in a country that boasts about its &#039;mixed salad&#039; approach to different cultures, and I&#039;d like to hope that the Canadians aren&#039;t so closed minded as that.

Perhaps I worded myself poorly: I wrote most of this in my head as I was falling asleep last night, and wrote it up first thing in the morning. I do believe that Canada has problematic thinking, and it of course has many of the same institutions that need analyzing and dismantling as stated. And yes, of course there&#039;s issues with the white majority and the power they hold, and that will continue to be a problem for a very, very long time.

I&#039;ve just never felt that people of another race or culture don&#039;t belong here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Does it strike you, though, as precisely the dynamic that Dr. Walcott is addressing that you lived in an exclusively white place, yet were taught that Canada was multicultural, while never expecting that any of those theoretical multicultural people might be expected to live in your own town? Isn’t this precisely what he means about the assumption that black people do not truly belong?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand this. To clarify, are you saying that it&#8217;s wrong that we were taught to be accepting of other cultures while not living in a multicultural town? Because I&#8217;m not quite sure what could have been done to encourage more multiculturalism in a town. I know that multiculturalism was slowly spreading to my town because of people trying to move out of the Toronto suburbs, but I&#8217;m not really sure why my experiences are being invalidated because I grew up in a town that wasn&#8217;t as multicultural as I&#8217;d have liked.</p>
<p>And yes, of course, everyone has their own experiences, no matter what race or culture they&#8217;re from. It&#8217;s likely that the professor has experienced racism; to what degree, only they could say. However, he&#8217;s living in an extremely diverse city in a country that boasts about its &#8216;mixed salad&#8217; approach to different cultures, and I&#8217;d like to hope that the Canadians aren&#8217;t so closed minded as that.</p>
<p>Perhaps I worded myself poorly: I wrote most of this in my head as I was falling asleep last night, and wrote it up first thing in the morning. I do believe that Canada has problematic thinking, and it of course has many of the same institutions that need analyzing and dismantling as stated. And yes, of course there&#8217;s issues with the white majority and the power they hold, and that will continue to be a problem for a very, very long time.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just never felt that people of another race or culture don&#8217;t belong here.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Caravelle</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252727</link>
		<dc:creator>Caravelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 15:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252727</guid>
		<description>I&#039;m not Canadian so I can&#039;t speak to the racism there or to white Canadians&#039; identification with &lt;i&gt;Cool Runnings&lt;/i&gt; but the claim that they identify with it because it shows how black people don&#039;t belong in Canada seems off to me. The whole point of the movie is that everyone tries to exclude the Jamaican team and they all get proven wrong and end up cheerleading for them.

I understand people that are sensitive to the whole &quot;fish out of water&quot; storyline and see it as racist; I&#039;m also sure that a lot of Canadians don&#039;t think black people belong there, if only subconsciously. I just don&#039;t see why those Canadians would identify with &lt;i&gt;Cool Runnings&lt;/i&gt;.

Is there a link to Rinaldo Walcott&#039;s statement that gives more detail ? Or maybe evidence ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not Canadian so I can&#8217;t speak to the racism there or to white Canadians&#8217; identification with <i>Cool Runnings</i> but the claim that they identify with it because it shows how black people don&#8217;t belong in Canada seems off to me. The whole point of the movie is that everyone tries to exclude the Jamaican team and they all get proven wrong and end up cheerleading for them.</p>
<p>I understand people that are sensitive to the whole &#8220;fish out of water&#8221; storyline and see it as racist; I&#8217;m also sure that a lot of Canadians don&#8217;t think black people belong there, if only subconsciously. I just don&#8217;t see why those Canadians would identify with <i>Cool Runnings</i>.</p>
<p>Is there a link to Rinaldo Walcott&#8217;s statement that gives more detail ? Or maybe evidence ?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Otogizoshi</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252682</link>
		<dc:creator>Otogizoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:56:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252682</guid>
		<description>*Just to clarify, the &#039;racism&#039; I saw towards &quot;white&quot; people were done by others of the same &#039;colour&#039;, but different background. (Their ancestors came from different parts of Europe), and these folks denied the cultural significance and existence of one with Eastern European heritage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Just to clarify, the &#8216;racism&#8217; I saw towards &#8220;white&#8221; people were done by others of the same &#8216;colour&#8217;, but different background. (Their ancestors came from different parts of Europe), and these folks denied the cultural significance and existence of one with Eastern European heritage.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: b</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252680</link>
		<dc:creator>b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252680</guid>
		<description>Thank goodness. I&#039;m white (American), and even I was scrolling through these comments, amazed at the audacity. I don&#039;t think that I, as a member of the majority (even if I happen to be located in a neighborhood or city where whites aren&#039;t the majority), get to decide whether my country is racist or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank goodness. I&#8217;m white (American), and even I was scrolling through these comments, amazed at the audacity. I don&#8217;t think that I, as a member of the majority (even if I happen to be located in a neighborhood or city where whites aren&#8217;t the majority), get to decide whether my country is racist or not.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Otogizoshi</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252679</link>
		<dc:creator>Otogizoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252679</guid>
		<description>Begging your pardon, but how do you even know that all of the above posts are written by &#039;white&#039; people? Of course there is racism, and of course there is white privilege (which is terrible), but I have seen friends of ALL colour experience racism, which is not to say that the white friends can even compare to the daily marginalisation that exists. However, for the sweeping generalisation of that professor to claim that all &#039;white&#039; Canadians don&#039;t think &#039;black&#039; people ought to be in Canada is very unfortunate. That is not to say that he didn&#039;t have personal grounds on which to make that assumption, but it is just as wrong to assume that this type of racism exists in the mind of every &#039;white&#039; Canadian. I too, have been marginalised, and know how it feels to be a minority, and have felt frustrated enough at times to want to think ill of the whole majority, but the fact of the matter is, regardless of situation, any sweeping generalisation is not going to truly answer any questions. It is good to discuss these things, though, because it is easy to fall into the meta-narrative that is &quot;Canadian culture&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begging your pardon, but how do you even know that all of the above posts are written by &#8216;white&#8217; people? Of course there is racism, and of course there is white privilege (which is terrible), but I have seen friends of ALL colour experience racism, which is not to say that the white friends can even compare to the daily marginalisation that exists. However, for the sweeping generalisation of that professor to claim that all &#8216;white&#8217; Canadians don&#8217;t think &#8216;black&#8217; people ought to be in Canada is very unfortunate. That is not to say that he didn&#8217;t have personal grounds on which to make that assumption, but it is just as wrong to assume that this type of racism exists in the mind of every &#8216;white&#8217; Canadian. I too, have been marginalised, and know how it feels to be a minority, and have felt frustrated enough at times to want to think ill of the whole majority, but the fact of the matter is, regardless of situation, any sweeping generalisation is not going to truly answer any questions. It is good to discuss these things, though, because it is easy to fall into the meta-narrative that is &#8220;Canadian culture&#8221;.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ella</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252571</link>
		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 11:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252571</guid>
		<description>&quot;When I was growing up, about an hour outside of Toronto, I lived in almost an exclusively white town. There was hardly any diversity. But I was always taught, in school and by others I knew, that diversity was a good thing and that’s what made Canada great. That we had many other cultures and people that come to Canada, and that we should encourage the differences between us, because difference doesn’t mean bad.&quot;

Does it strike you, though, as precisely the dynamic that Dr. Walcott is addressing that you lived in an exclusively white place, yet were taught that Canada was multicultural, while never expecting that any of those theoretical multicultural people might be expected to live in your own town?  Isn&#039;t this precisely what he means about the assumption that black people do not truly belong?  The assumption that an all-white town is normal and expected even as you assert a belief in multiculturalism demonstrates his point about white Canadians who view Canada as naturally white and all others as visitors who are tolerated by white people.

Can you also perhaps see that the dynamic of exclusively white people talking about how accepting they are as Canadians of people of other races, while excluding anyone of those other races, is in itself a dynamic of privilege and power? Did you truly learn anything about dismantling systems of white privilege, or about systematic and institutional racism and how they work to exclude others, including thinking about why it is that your town is able to be all white and what that might say about social and economic privilege in Canada?  Speaking about inclusion and difference is all very nice, but means little in the absence of the very people you are supposed to be including.  

And, in fact, as Dr. Walcott expresses, there is a dynamic of white superiority created here, where white people talk about how tolerant and nice and generous they are to other people, in the assumption that those people should be grateful to be in Canada receiving the generosity of the nice white people here who are so much less racist than other white people like those in the States.  

Canada is racist and I&#039;m very tired of seeing thread after thread all over the internet where white Canadians admit to living in all white places and not knowing any people of other races, yet believe their own province isn&#039;t at all racist, and that maybe racism happens somewhere else, but not anyone like me.  This of course marginalizes the experiences of all the Canadian of colour who deal with racism in Canada, and have to deal not only with the experience of racism, but the denial of the huge majority of white Canadians that these experiences even exist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When I was growing up, about an hour outside of Toronto, I lived in almost an exclusively white town. There was hardly any diversity. But I was always taught, in school and by others I knew, that diversity was a good thing and that’s what made Canada great. That we had many other cultures and people that come to Canada, and that we should encourage the differences between us, because difference doesn’t mean bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Does it strike you, though, as precisely the dynamic that Dr. Walcott is addressing that you lived in an exclusively white place, yet were taught that Canada was multicultural, while never expecting that any of those theoretical multicultural people might be expected to live in your own town?  Isn&#8217;t this precisely what he means about the assumption that black people do not truly belong?  The assumption that an all-white town is normal and expected even as you assert a belief in multiculturalism demonstrates his point about white Canadians who view Canada as naturally white and all others as visitors who are tolerated by white people.</p>
<p>Can you also perhaps see that the dynamic of exclusively white people talking about how accepting they are as Canadians of people of other races, while excluding anyone of those other races, is in itself a dynamic of privilege and power? Did you truly learn anything about dismantling systems of white privilege, or about systematic and institutional racism and how they work to exclude others, including thinking about why it is that your town is able to be all white and what that might say about social and economic privilege in Canada?  Speaking about inclusion and difference is all very nice, but means little in the absence of the very people you are supposed to be including.  </p>
<p>And, in fact, as Dr. Walcott expresses, there is a dynamic of white superiority created here, where white people talk about how tolerant and nice and generous they are to other people, in the assumption that those people should be grateful to be in Canada receiving the generosity of the nice white people here who are so much less racist than other white people like those in the States.  </p>
<p>Canada is racist and I&#8217;m very tired of seeing thread after thread all over the internet where white Canadians admit to living in all white places and not knowing any people of other races, yet believe their own province isn&#8217;t at all racist, and that maybe racism happens somewhere else, but not anyone like me.  This of course marginalizes the experiences of all the Canadian of colour who deal with racism in Canada, and have to deal not only with the experience of racism, but the denial of the huge majority of white Canadians that these experiences even exist.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Ella</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252535</link>
		<dc:creator>Ella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252535</guid>
		<description>As a black Canadian why am I not surprised to find an entire thread of white Canadians denying their own racism? 

And of course, even as they deny racism, they dismiss out of hand that a black Canadian might possibly have a sharper perspective than they do on racism, or valid observations to make about how people of colour are marginalized and alienated within Canada.  Keep telling people of colour how to think about or understand racism, white people, because I&#039;m sure you know so much more about experiencing it than people who are actually victimized by racism on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a black Canadian why am I not surprised to find an entire thread of white Canadians denying their own racism? </p>
<p>And of course, even as they deny racism, they dismiss out of hand that a black Canadian might possibly have a sharper perspective than they do on racism, or valid observations to make about how people of colour are marginalized and alienated within Canada.  Keep telling people of colour how to think about or understand racism, white people, because I&#8217;m sure you know so much more about experiencing it than people who are actually victimized by racism on a daily basis.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Miss M</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252511</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 10:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252511</guid>
		<description>Just to add onto my own point: There is a lot of regionalism in Canada. Where you&#039;re from is very important to some people and often times will dictate what people think of you. For example, when I first came to Newfoundland and was working in retail, I would have people tell me that I couldn&#039;t be from Ontario because I was &#039;too nice.&#039;

People in Ontario told me not to come to Newfoundland because they&#039;re all backwards.

Every province has their own little grudges and buddies, and where you&#039;re from, regionally, is important. This is something you see no matter what colour the person&#039;s skin is, which I contest just doesn&#039;t matter as much to Canadians as that professor thinks in my personal experiences.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add onto my own point: There is a lot of regionalism in Canada. Where you&#8217;re from is very important to some people and often times will dictate what people think of you. For example, when I first came to Newfoundland and was working in retail, I would have people tell me that I couldn&#8217;t be from Ontario because I was &#8216;too nice.&#8217;</p>
<p>People in Ontario told me not to come to Newfoundland because they&#8217;re all backwards.</p>
<p>Every province has their own little grudges and buddies, and where you&#8217;re from, regionally, is important. This is something you see no matter what colour the person&#8217;s skin is, which I contest just doesn&#8217;t matter as much to Canadians as that professor thinks in my personal experiences.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Miss M</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252496</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 09:49:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252496</guid>
		<description>When I was growing up, about an hour outside of Toronto, I lived in almost an exclusively white town. There was hardly any diversity. But I was always taught, in school and by others I knew, that diversity was a good thing and that&#039;s what made Canada great. That we had many other cultures and people that come to Canada, and that we should encourage the differences between us, because difference doesn&#039;t mean bad.

Toronto is about 55% white. It doesn&#039;t make much sense, to me, that racism is a huge problem in a place where almost half of the city is composed of a &#039;visible minority.&#039;

Further to that, some of the outskirts of Toronto, like Brampton, are composed of 37% white and the rest are a &#039;minority&#039;. They&#039;re 33% South Asian there, which I&#039;m assuming to mean they&#039;re from India.

Yes, I believe we can be more accepting. We can always be better, and do more, and the way we treat our native population is disgusting. But growing up in Canada, I have never felt for a moment that someone of a different colour or culture or religion did not belong in Canada because I was always taught that it was a good thing.

Another aside; I&#039;m currently living in St. John&#039;s, Newfoundland. I am really, really loving Republic of Doyle. It shows a very, very unrealistic St. John&#039;s - our homicide rate, in all of Newfoundland, is about 2-5 a year for the entire province, and that&#039;s including all levels of homicide (like manslaughter), not just first degree murder. The show doesn&#039;t show St. John&#039;s in a terrible light, but it certainly shows it in a &#039;grittier&#039; light that isn&#039;t realistic.

If I was younger, growing up in Newfoundland, and I saw this show on that showed my home town, my province... it would likely be something that I would reflect upon with fond memories. Because it&#039;s nice to see, in popular culture, that yes, Canada does exist and it&#039;s a beautiful and diverse and interesting place and &#039;oh my God, I was at this place before!&#039;

It&#039;s just nice to have something in mainstream media show something with a Canadian view or setting or cast because it is fairly rare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I was growing up, about an hour outside of Toronto, I lived in almost an exclusively white town. There was hardly any diversity. But I was always taught, in school and by others I knew, that diversity was a good thing and that&#8217;s what made Canada great. That we had many other cultures and people that come to Canada, and that we should encourage the differences between us, because difference doesn&#8217;t mean bad.</p>
<p>Toronto is about 55% white. It doesn&#8217;t make much sense, to me, that racism is a huge problem in a place where almost half of the city is composed of a &#8216;visible minority.&#8217;</p>
<p>Further to that, some of the outskirts of Toronto, like Brampton, are composed of 37% white and the rest are a &#8216;minority&#8217;. They&#8217;re 33% South Asian there, which I&#8217;m assuming to mean they&#8217;re from India.</p>
<p>Yes, I believe we can be more accepting. We can always be better, and do more, and the way we treat our native population is disgusting. But growing up in Canada, I have never felt for a moment that someone of a different colour or culture or religion did not belong in Canada because I was always taught that it was a good thing.</p>
<p>Another aside; I&#8217;m currently living in St. John&#8217;s, Newfoundland. I am really, really loving Republic of Doyle. It shows a very, very unrealistic St. John&#8217;s &#8211; our homicide rate, in all of Newfoundland, is about 2-5 a year for the entire province, and that&#8217;s including all levels of homicide (like manslaughter), not just first degree murder. The show doesn&#8217;t show St. John&#8217;s in a terrible light, but it certainly shows it in a &#8216;grittier&#8217; light that isn&#8217;t realistic.</p>
<p>If I was younger, growing up in Newfoundland, and I saw this show on that showed my home town, my province&#8230; it would likely be something that I would reflect upon with fond memories. Because it&#8217;s nice to see, in popular culture, that yes, Canada does exist and it&#8217;s a beautiful and diverse and interesting place and &#8216;oh my God, I was at this place before!&#8217;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just nice to have something in mainstream media show something with a Canadian view or setting or cast because it is fairly rare.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: shale</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252320</link>
		<dc:creator>shale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 05:55:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252320</guid>
		<description>As another Canadian that saw the film in their childhood, I also think that Walcott totally misses the boat in his analysis, but not just because I don&#039;t think Canadians identified that strongly with the film. 

To the extent that Canadians would or might have identified with it, I think this would have more to do with the way it shows Caribbean-black people engaged in winter sports (something Canadians do identify with) competing at the Calgary winter Olympics (another thing Canadians identify with). The movie also preaches an idealized notion about accepting differences, tolerance, and multiculturalism (and yet something else that Canadians identify with). 

On the other hand, Canadians are often so proud of how accepting their country is that they tend to overlook the fact that they really aren&#039;t as accepting as they could be. Anyways, to the extent that the film encourages this kind of ignorance is bliss, fine, it&#039;s bad, but to claim that a vast chunk of Canadians are all secretly thinking that black people don&#039;t belong up here, and responding to subtle cues in films like Cool Runnings, is kind of silly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As another Canadian that saw the film in their childhood, I also think that Walcott totally misses the boat in his analysis, but not just because I don&#8217;t think Canadians identified that strongly with the film. </p>
<p>To the extent that Canadians would or might have identified with it, I think this would have more to do with the way it shows Caribbean-black people engaged in winter sports (something Canadians do identify with) competing at the Calgary winter Olympics (another thing Canadians identify with). The movie also preaches an idealized notion about accepting differences, tolerance, and multiculturalism (and yet something else that Canadians identify with). </p>
<p>On the other hand, Canadians are often so proud of how accepting their country is that they tend to overlook the fact that they really aren&#8217;t as accepting as they could be. Anyways, to the extent that the film encourages this kind of ignorance is bliss, fine, it&#8217;s bad, but to claim that a vast chunk of Canadians are all secretly thinking that black people don&#8217;t belong up here, and responding to subtle cues in films like Cool Runnings, is kind of silly.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Otogizoshi</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/03/27/guest-post-media-race-web-2-0/comment-page-1/#comment-252273</link>
		<dc:creator>Otogizoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Mar 2010 04:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=21997#comment-252273</guid>
		<description>* Here being Canada, then Alberta.

I basically mean to say that I agree with Maggie in that if you were to ask Canadians if we strongly relate to the movie, most would probably be confused. 

This movie, produced by Disney, was probably exciting because it featured a location in Canada (that isn&#039;t Toronto), and a major event. If Canadians were to &#039;identify&#039; with something, perhaps it is the fact that the 88 Calgary Olympics were made the setting. Looking at other Disney and Hollywood movies, this is atypical. 

The blackface issue, however, is unfortunately far too common. I also think that these folks (who dressed up and painted their faces) were rather insensitive, especially considering their &#039;knowledge&#039; of blackface. Regardless of their intent, it is still a highly sensitive matter, especially considering the historical and contemporary occurrences and uses of it. For that reason, I think it was in poor taste.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>* Here being Canada, then Alberta.</p>
<p>I basically mean to say that I agree with Maggie in that if you were to ask Canadians if we strongly relate to the movie, most would probably be confused. </p>
<p>This movie, produced by Disney, was probably exciting because it featured a location in Canada (that isn&#8217;t Toronto), and a major event. If Canadians were to &#8216;identify&#8217; with something, perhaps it is the fact that the 88 Calgary Olympics were made the setting. Looking at other Disney and Hollywood movies, this is atypical. </p>
<p>The blackface issue, however, is unfortunately far too common. I also think that these folks (who dressed up and painted their faces) were rather insensitive, especially considering their &#8216;knowledge&#8217; of blackface. Regardless of their intent, it is still a highly sensitive matter, especially considering the historical and contemporary occurrences and uses of it. For that reason, I think it was in poor taste.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

