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		<title>By: tinseltown</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tinseltown]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 01:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[omg my prof at college had a pic of this on his wall, and I&#039;ve been trying to track down a print ever since. Any ideas where I can score this poster?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>omg my prof at college had a pic of this on his wall, and I&#8217;ve been trying to track down a print ever since. Any ideas where I can score this poster?</p>
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		<title>By: The Law Defeated &#171; Magneto Was Right</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-225144</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Law Defeated &#171; Magneto Was Right]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] era of talking pictures that had started in 1927 and was known as Pre-Code Hollywood. . . . Over at Sociological Images, Gwen Sharp has uncovered a photo from the era that intentionally incorporates the code’s top 10 [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] era of talking pictures that had started in 1927 and was known as Pre-Code Hollywood. . . . Over at Sociological Images, Gwen Sharp has uncovered a photo from the era that intentionally incorporates the code’s top 10 [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Hays Code protest</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-214693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hays Code protest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 20:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Socialogical Images has a great post &amp; resulting conversation regarding this photo done in protest of the old Hollywood Hays Code. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Socialogical Images has a great post &amp; resulting conversation regarding this photo done in protest of the old Hollywood Hays Code. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Dawn.</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-213702</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dawn.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Hays Code was bananas, but the way the MPAA rates films now is ridiculous. What upsets me the most about the MPAA is how heteronormative it is. It affects a lot of filmmakers whose films contain GLBTQ content.

BTW, &lt;i&gt;This Film is Not Yet Rated&lt;/i&gt; is one of my all-time favorite documentaries. If anyone doubts the MPAA&#039;s pervasive influence and/or lack of credibility, please watch this documentary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hays Code was bananas, but the way the MPAA rates films now is ridiculous. What upsets me the most about the MPAA is how heteronormative it is. It affects a lot of filmmakers whose films contain GLBTQ content.</p>
<p>BTW, <i>This Film is Not Yet Rated</i> is one of my all-time favorite documentaries. If anyone doubts the MPAA&#8217;s pervasive influence and/or lack of credibility, please watch this documentary.</p>
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		<title>By: DovS</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-212605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DovS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my gosh! She&#039;s smoking a cigarette! Now THAT is scandalous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my gosh! She&#8217;s smoking a cigarette! Now THAT is scandalous.</p>
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		<title>By: 3 Million Years - links for 2010-02-08</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[3 Million Years - links for 2010-02-08]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Making Fun of the MPAA Hays Code In 1934 the MPAA voluntarily passed the Motion Picture Production Code, more generally known as the Hays Code, largely to avoid governmental regulation. The code prohibited certain plotlines and imagery from films and in publicity materials produced by the MPAA. Among others, there was to be no cleavage, no lace underthings, no drugs or drinking, no corpses, and no one shown getting away with a crime. (tags: film censorship) [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Making Fun of the MPAA Hays Code In 1934 the MPAA voluntarily passed the Motion Picture Production Code, more generally known as the Hays Code, largely to avoid governmental regulation. The code prohibited certain plotlines and imagery from films and in publicity materials produced by the MPAA. Among others, there was to be no cleavage, no lace underthings, no drugs or drinking, no corpses, and no one shown getting away with a crime. (tags: film censorship) [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Sair</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-212350</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 00:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There was a similar picture floating around for Batman: The Animated Series. It showed the Joker committing all the acts the writers weren&#039;t allowed to show onscreen -- does anyone happen to have a copy of the image? I remember the things depicted ranging from somewhat understandable (given the age of target audience) to completely ridiculous.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was a similar picture floating around for Batman: The Animated Series. It showed the Joker committing all the acts the writers weren&#8217;t allowed to show onscreen &#8212; does anyone happen to have a copy of the image? I remember the things depicted ranging from somewhat understandable (given the age of target audience) to completely ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Noelley B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noelley B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how the MPAA&#039;s power will continue as more and more people get their movies from sources with little regard for their ratings.  When I watched This Film is Not Yet Rated, I made a list of every movie mentioned and added them to my Netflix cue.  More and more, you see unrated versions of even mainstream films out on DVD, at least, and theater ticket sales have been declining for years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how the MPAA&#8217;s power will continue as more and more people get their movies from sources with little regard for their ratings.  When I watched This Film is Not Yet Rated, I made a list of every movie mentioned and added them to my Netflix cue.  More and more, you see unrated versions of even mainstream films out on DVD, at least, and theater ticket sales have been declining for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Noelley B</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Noelley B]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 22:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think ratings can be useful,especially if you are choosing a film or other media for young children.  The MPAA rating system is pretty wonked, but it&#039;s better than nothing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think ratings can be useful,especially if you are choosing a film or other media for young children.  The MPAA rating system is pretty wonked, but it&#8217;s better than nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Licorice Lain</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/02/06/making-fun-of-the-mpaa-hays-code/comment-page-1/#comment-212019</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Licorice Lain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 12:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was watching iFC&#039;s sex documentary and during one of the parts, I believe it was taboos, they went in depth with the topic of this post.

All directors were affected by this, even those known for their restraint. One classic example is Alfred Hitchcock.

I have since I watched that documentary wondered how much less subtle his work would have been if the Hays Code did not prohibit so much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was watching iFC&#8217;s sex documentary and during one of the parts, I believe it was taboos, they went in depth with the topic of this post.</p>
<p>All directors were affected by this, even those known for their restraint. One classic example is Alfred Hitchcock.</p>
<p>I have since I watched that documentary wondered how much less subtle his work would have been if the Hays Code did not prohibit so much.</p>
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		<title>By: Kelly Holden</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kelly Holden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it doesn&#039;t tell you if it&#039;s good art, and yes, putting a &#039;lid&#039; on the highest rating as every nation&#039;s rating system seems to is silencing, but I see nothing wrong with wanting some idea how impacting material will be when one sits down to it. 
Most modern fanfiction cultures want material to be labelled with not just a MPAA-style rating, but also often quite detailed warnings, sometimes for distinctly non-impacting content like &#039;fluff&#039; or &#039;het&#039;. Granted, it&#039;s typically self-applied and usually the highest rating is regarded as not having a &#039;lid&#039;, but if ficcers were really silenced by it, there wouldn&#039;t be such a huge conflation of romantic fanfiction and erotic fanfiction.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it doesn&#8217;t tell you if it&#8217;s good art, and yes, putting a &#8216;lid&#8217; on the highest rating as every nation&#8217;s rating system seems to is silencing, but I see nothing wrong with wanting some idea how impacting material will be when one sits down to it.<br />
Most modern fanfiction cultures want material to be labelled with not just a MPAA-style rating, but also often quite detailed warnings, sometimes for distinctly non-impacting content like &#8216;fluff&#8217; or &#8216;het&#8217;. Granted, it&#8217;s typically self-applied and usually the highest rating is regarded as not having a &#8216;lid&#8217;, but if ficcers were really silenced by it, there wouldn&#8217;t be such a huge conflation of romantic fanfiction and erotic fanfiction.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, the MPAA is problematic, but don&#039;t dismiss the power of consumers so casually. Is it not consumers that give the MPAA its clout? After all, the worst thing it can do is refuse to rate a movie. That only means anything because consumers value MPAA ratings. If people stopped caring about that, there wouldn&#039;t be a reason for theaters to care either.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the MPAA is problematic, but don&#8217;t dismiss the power of consumers so casually. Is it not consumers that give the MPAA its clout? After all, the worst thing it can do is refuse to rate a movie. That only means anything because consumers value MPAA ratings. If people stopped caring about that, there wouldn&#8217;t be a reason for theaters to care either.</p>
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		<title>By: AR</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AR]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Basically, yes. Freedom from actual or threatened violence is the only self-consistent basis for rights, because a right to anything more would imply positive obligation on the part of others, which would be a violation of &lt;i&gt;their&lt;/i&gt; rights.

The only way that it could be argued that the MPAA and its associated theaters and movie stores are committing rights violations would be to argue that a movie maker has a human right to other people&#039;s theaters and stores, and by extension the very lives and labor of the people responsible for bringing those theaters and stores into existence.

This isn&#039;t to say that the MPAA isn&#039;t still doing objectionable things, but it does mean that they are within their rights to do so, in the same sense and for the same reasons that we are within our rights to discuss their actions here, and that their actions are objectionable in a different sense than something characteristic of brutally oppressive regimes is objectionable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Basically, yes. Freedom from actual or threatened violence is the only self-consistent basis for rights, because a right to anything more would imply positive obligation on the part of others, which would be a violation of <i>their</i> rights.</p>
<p>The only way that it could be argued that the MPAA and its associated theaters and movie stores are committing rights violations would be to argue that a movie maker has a human right to other people&#8217;s theaters and stores, and by extension the very lives and labor of the people responsible for bringing those theaters and stores into existence.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t to say that the MPAA isn&#8217;t still doing objectionable things, but it does mean that they are within their rights to do so, in the same sense and for the same reasons that we are within our rights to discuss their actions here, and that their actions are objectionable in a different sense than something characteristic of brutally oppressive regimes is objectionable.</p>
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		<title>By: Tinose</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tinose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 03:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Applying pressure with their own resources to influence what films get made is no different than movie consumers choosing what to watch.&lt;/i&gt;

No, because movie consumers only make the decision for themselves, and cannot, on the individual level, make or break a movie.  The MPAA can, if only through their economic clout.  I agree with you insofar as I&#039;d prefer a different term be used for censorship with legal force versus this kind of unofficial censorship through economic power versus even lesser forms of censorship. But when it comes down to it, they&#039;re all the same thing - remove this content or we&#039;ll do what&#039;s in our power to make things unpleasant for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Applying pressure with their own resources to influence what films get made is no different than movie consumers choosing what to watch.</i></p>
<p>No, because movie consumers only make the decision for themselves, and cannot, on the individual level, make or break a movie.  The MPAA can, if only through their economic clout.  I agree with you insofar as I&#8217;d prefer a different term be used for censorship with legal force versus this kind of unofficial censorship through economic power versus even lesser forms of censorship. But when it comes down to it, they&#8217;re all the same thing &#8211; remove this content or we&#8217;ll do what&#8217;s in our power to make things unpleasant for you.</p>
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		<title>By: E</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[E]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 02:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you saying that rights are only violated if violence is used?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you saying that rights are only violated if violence is used?</p>
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