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	<title>Comments on: The Role of Photography in Fat Acceptance</title>
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		<title>By: Dom P</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-203182</link>
		<dc:creator>Dom P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comments here are amazing. I never realized there were so many different views on &quot;Fat Acceptance&quot;. Thank you all for enlightening me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comments here are amazing. I never realized there were so many different views on &#8220;Fat Acceptance&#8221;. Thank you all for enlightening me.</p>
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		<title>By: fatadelic</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-195651</link>
		<dc:creator>fatadelic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 12:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Garbage, Jamie. 99.99% of fat acceptance sites are about body acceptance at all sizes - whether you are slim, supersize or inbetween. I have never actually seen these mythological slim-bashing fat acceptance sites - much like I have never seen unicorns, manticores or sphinxes.

Misrepresentation like this really gets my goat.

Having said that, however, in a world where fat people are discriminated against and reviled, where our headless images are used to illustrated moral panic scare stories about obesity, is it any wonder that the images Substantia Jones has chosen to reclaim are the images or larger women. Her choice of subject captures the beauty of fat women, but does not invalidate the beauty of women of other sizes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garbage, Jamie. 99.99% of fat acceptance sites are about body acceptance at all sizes &#8211; whether you are slim, supersize or inbetween. I have never actually seen these mythological slim-bashing fat acceptance sites &#8211; much like I have never seen unicorns, manticores or sphinxes.</p>
<p>Misrepresentation like this really gets my goat.</p>
<p>Having said that, however, in a world where fat people are discriminated against and reviled, where our headless images are used to illustrated moral panic scare stories about obesity, is it any wonder that the images Substantia Jones has chosen to reclaim are the images or larger women. Her choice of subject captures the beauty of fat women, but does not invalidate the beauty of women of other sizes.</p>
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		<title>By: heather leila</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-188345</link>
		<dc:creator>heather leila</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 17:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I just found an interesting article which seems to address the &quot;Why do they always have to be naked?&quot; question. A &quot;plus-size&quot; model recreates a fashion spread (in which no one got naked) and pretty much proves the clothes and the model look just as good in the &quot;plus-size&quot; version.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1237677/Plus-size-Crystal-Renn-takes-traditional-model-prove-fashion-flatter-figure.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I just found an interesting article which seems to address the &#8220;Why do they always have to be naked?&#8221; question. A &#8220;plus-size&#8221; model recreates a fashion spread (in which no one got naked) and pretty much proves the clothes and the model look just as good in the &#8220;plus-size&#8221; version.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1237677/Plus-size-Crystal-Renn-takes-traditional-model-prove-fashion-flatter-figure.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1237677/Plus-size-Crystal-Renn-takes-traditional-model-prove-fashion-flatter-figure.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kink On Tap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kink On Tap 24: You&#8217;d Be Amazed What Can Fit</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-188309</link>
		<dc:creator>Kink On Tap &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Kink On Tap 24: You&#8217;d Be Amazed What Can Fit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 16:34:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] upcoming featured guests. Is V Magazine making a fashion mag faux-pas by ghettoizing fat models? Some people think so. Also, sex toy snake oil merchants want women to dye their labia, submissive men struggle against [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] upcoming featured guests. Is V Magazine making a fashion mag faux-pas by ghettoizing fat models? Some people think so. Also, sex toy snake oil merchants want women to dye their labia, submissive men struggle against [...]</p>
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		<title>By: V magazine gets big &#171; Uplift Magazine</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-188222</link>
		<dc:creator>V magazine gets big &#171; Uplift Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what counts as a healthy figure. The other editorial that has been released Curves Ahead features 4 plus sized models photographed in a various stages of dress, beautifully proving V&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what counts as a healthy figure. The other editorial that has been released Curves Ahead features 4 plus sized models photographed in a various stages of dress, beautifully proving V&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: B Adu</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-187155</link>
		<dc:creator>B Adu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Fat acceptance pages hold no appeal to me either, because they mostly end up being just that – fat acceptance, not body acceptance.&lt;/em&gt;

A fat person&#039;s body, is a body. If a fat person sees themselves as a human being, equal to others, when they say, fat acceptance, they are automatically referrign to the acceptance of all bodies, because the the fat body is currently the most reviled.

It&#039;s not the acceptance of fatness so much as the acceptance of a person and their body that happens to be fat, that matters.

I didn&#039;t think that would have to be spelled out, because I take for granted that fat people are human beings.

In the same way, if a thin person speaks of being happy with themselves and their body, I warm to that, and feel inspired. I don&#039;t need them to point my body type out specifically. I take it as read that it applies to me because I respond to it.

If on the other hand you don&#039;t see fat bodies as representing humanity, then that feeling is less available to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Fat acceptance pages hold no appeal to me either, because they mostly end up being just that – fat acceptance, not body acceptance.</em></p>
<p>A fat person&#8217;s body, is a body. If a fat person sees themselves as a human being, equal to others, when they say, fat acceptance, they are automatically referrign to the acceptance of all bodies, because the the fat body is currently the most reviled.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the acceptance of fatness so much as the acceptance of a person and their body that happens to be fat, that matters.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t think that would have to be spelled out, because I take for granted that fat people are human beings.</p>
<p>In the same way, if a thin person speaks of being happy with themselves and their body, I warm to that, and feel inspired. I don&#8217;t need them to point my body type out specifically. I take it as read that it applies to me because I respond to it.</p>
<p>If on the other hand you don&#8217;t see fat bodies as representing humanity, then that feeling is less available to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Ivo Robotnik</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-186375</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Ivo Robotnik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 15:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I&#039;ve always found the emphasis on &quot;FAT&quot; in &quot;Fat Acceptance&quot; problematic. I realize that the thin have it easier, but there&#039;s still thin people who suffer from the same kind of mockery shit we on the heavy end of the scale suffer from. Same goes, I guess, with every body type. I much prefer &quot;SIZE acceptance&quot; because I feel it represents everyone, and in body politics, everyone needs to be represented.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve always found the emphasis on &#8220;FAT&#8221; in &#8220;Fat Acceptance&#8221; problematic. I realize that the thin have it easier, but there&#8217;s still thin people who suffer from the same kind of mockery shit we on the heavy end of the scale suffer from. Same goes, I guess, with every body type. I much prefer &#8220;SIZE acceptance&#8221; because I feel it represents everyone, and in body politics, everyone needs to be represented.</p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-186149</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There are cultures that have developed appreciation for fatter bodies; furthermore, the evolutionarily-selected preference is actually FOR fatter people. That’s why we have them. That’s why America has fat people.

In a society awash with cheap, easily-available, calorically-dense food, people have gotten larger. Because bodies EVOLVED to be that way.&lt;/i&gt;

This sounds a little backwards, actually. Our bodies evolved to *try* to get fat under difficult, low-calorie circumstances. It wasn&#039;t easy to actually *accomplish* though. Unlike historical borderline-starvation conditions, having an excess of calorie-dense food is far too novel for us to have evolved perfectly to compensate. If anything we&#039;re a little fish-out-of-water with all these great nutrients (and not-so-great other stuff) because our bodies still scrape and fight to prepare for a famine that never comes.

It&#039;s more like we have evolved to *attempt* fatness rather than to actually *be* fat -- just like a toddler is supposed to attempt to toddle all over the place and reach for things on the kitchen counter but it wouldn&#039;t be so great for the counter to suddenly be toddler-height with all those knives and dishes and hot pans easily accessible. Then a well-evolved organism&#039;s environment would have changed too quickly for the organism to compensate and the child would get burned. (To shrink evolution into a sort of child development time frame, which is heinous.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There are cultures that have developed appreciation for fatter bodies; furthermore, the evolutionarily-selected preference is actually FOR fatter people. That’s why we have them. That’s why America has fat people.</p>
<p>In a society awash with cheap, easily-available, calorically-dense food, people have gotten larger. Because bodies EVOLVED to be that way.</i></p>
<p>This sounds a little backwards, actually. Our bodies evolved to *try* to get fat under difficult, low-calorie circumstances. It wasn&#8217;t easy to actually *accomplish* though. Unlike historical borderline-starvation conditions, having an excess of calorie-dense food is far too novel for us to have evolved perfectly to compensate. If anything we&#8217;re a little fish-out-of-water with all these great nutrients (and not-so-great other stuff) because our bodies still scrape and fight to prepare for a famine that never comes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s more like we have evolved to *attempt* fatness rather than to actually *be* fat &#8212; just like a toddler is supposed to attempt to toddle all over the place and reach for things on the kitchen counter but it wouldn&#8217;t be so great for the counter to suddenly be toddler-height with all those knives and dishes and hot pans easily accessible. Then a well-evolved organism&#8217;s environment would have changed too quickly for the organism to compensate and the child would get burned. (To shrink evolution into a sort of child development time frame, which is heinous.)</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-186142</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  As animals we &lt;i&gt;have&lt;/i&gt; cholesterol, but we won&#039;t die if we don&#039;t ingest it from other sources.  Non-animal sources have no cholesterol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  As animals we <i>have</i> cholesterol, but we won&#8217;t die if we don&#8217;t ingest it from other sources.  Non-animal sources have no cholesterol.</p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-186140</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zero cholesterol? Is that physically possible? I&#039;m no doctor but wouldn&#039;t you die?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zero cholesterol? Is that physically possible? I&#8217;m no doctor but wouldn&#8217;t you die?</p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-186139</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is also maybe being tested on this one dude I read an article about somewhere... He has weird moods and oddly reduced aggression and I think possibly a lowered sex drive. Skinny dispassionate low-energy guy with no libido? Sounds hot! :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is also maybe being tested on this one dude I read an article about somewhere&#8230; He has weird moods and oddly reduced aggression and I think possibly a lowered sex drive. Skinny dispassionate low-energy guy with no libido? Sounds hot! :p</p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-186137</link>
		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 03:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Me neither, but then again I&#039;m not attracted to *lots* of people who I don&#039;t then admonish for not being attractive to me. (Come on, ladies! Grow a dick, wouldya? This straight girl needs eyecandy! And if everyone could try to be dark-eyed brunets in their early 20s, too, that&#039;d be great. I deserve to be surrounded by people I would like to have sex with! Anything less than that is clearly a dangerous epidemic of people-I-wouldn&#039;t-bang. /snark)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Me neither, but then again I&#8217;m not attracted to *lots* of people who I don&#8217;t then admonish for not being attractive to me. (Come on, ladies! Grow a dick, wouldya? This straight girl needs eyecandy! And if everyone could try to be dark-eyed brunets in their early 20s, too, that&#8217;d be great. I deserve to be surrounded by people I would like to have sex with! Anything less than that is clearly a dangerous epidemic of people-I-wouldn&#8217;t-bang. /snark)</p>
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		<title>By: paolo de andreis</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-185906</link>
		<dc:creator>paolo de andreis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More than everything else thanks to Substantia Jones! Her work allows us not to feel ugly for once and stimulates each one of us to enjoy life and ourselves.

I feel sorry, instead, for those who can not understand what it means, today, at every latitude, to be obese and how much of a burden their hatred puts on us. Fortunately I read here many more with great ideas and values!

Thanks again for posting.

Paolo
(Italy)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More than everything else thanks to Substantia Jones! Her work allows us not to feel ugly for once and stimulates each one of us to enjoy life and ourselves.</p>
<p>I feel sorry, instead, for those who can not understand what it means, today, at every latitude, to be obese and how much of a burden their hatred puts on us. Fortunately I read here many more with great ideas and values!</p>
<p>Thanks again for posting.</p>
<p>Paolo<br />
(Italy)</p>
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		<title>By: P</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-1/#comment-185876</link>
		<dc:creator>P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 16:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently, &quot;obesity is associated with poor health&quot; is a social construction and therefore invalid; while the social construction &quot;running a marathon is associated with good health&quot; is perfectly valid and can be used freely to argue the former, as in: &quot;obese people can&#039;t be more likely to experience poor health because &lt;i&gt;some obese people run marathons&lt;/i&gt;.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently, &#8220;obesity is associated with poor health&#8221; is a social construction and therefore invalid; while the social construction &#8220;running a marathon is associated with good health&#8221; is perfectly valid and can be used freely to argue the former, as in: &#8220;obese people can&#8217;t be more likely to experience poor health because <i>some obese people run marathons</i>.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2010/01/02/role-of-photography-in-fat-acceptance/comment-page-2/#comment-185640</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 00:56:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bingo!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bingo!  :)</p>
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