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		<title>By: Badidea1972</title>
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		<dc:creator>Badidea1972</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hiya, just wondered what your opinions might be about this site:

http://shop4dinosaurs.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=222</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya, just wondered what your opinions might be about this site:</p>
<p><a href="http://shop4dinosaurs.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=222" rel="nofollow">http://shop4dinosaurs.co.uk/prodtype.asp?PT_ID=222</a></p>
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		<title>By: Lara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Feb 2011 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just visited the Everything Dinosaur site and they revamped the whole site since this article. One section is now called &#039;Dinosaur Toys for Boys &amp; Girls - Dinosaur Models&#039;, all other sections are gender neutral.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just visited the Everything Dinosaur site and they revamped the whole site since this article. One section is now called &#8216;Dinosaur Toys for Boys &amp; Girls &#8211; Dinosaur Models&#8217;, all other sections are gender neutral.</p>
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		<title>By: Insisting on Boys&#8217; and Girls&#8217; Bikes &#187; Sociological Images</title>
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		<dc:creator>Insisting on Boys&#8217; and Girls&#8217; Bikes &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jun 2010 16:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] or the valuing of masculine things over feminine things, see here, here, here, here, and here.      var object = SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title:&#039;Insisting on Boys&#8217; and Girls&#8217; Bikes&#039;, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or the valuing of masculine things over feminine things, see here, here, here, here, and here.      var object = SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title:&#39;Insisting on Boys&#8217; and Girls&#8217; Bikes&#39;, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#8220;And So Do Girls&#8221;: Girls as an Afterthought &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-172025</link>
		<dc:creator>&#8220;And So Do Girls&#8221;: Girls as an Afterthought &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2009 15:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] today&#8217;s advertising seems equally gendered, with girls thrown in as an afterthought (like in this dinosaur toy website) or neatly segregated (see here, here, and [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] today&#8217;s advertising seems equally gendered, with girls thrown in as an afterthought (like in this dinosaur toy website) or neatly segregated (see here, here, and [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Cassandra</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-166824</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 21:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Because dinosaurs aren’t for girls, you see. Dinosaurs are for boys (which goes without saying), so we have to make an special space full of stuffed animals, origami, diaries, and necklaces for the girls.&quot;

They&#039;re just trying to satisfy all the freaking feminist, all of you. Or a lot of you. I thought that this site was really interesting, I read a couple pages then realized that everything is wrong. Everything, EVERYTHING is discriminatory against women. Do you or don&#039;t you want special treatment? It doesn&#039;t say Anywhere that, &quot;Dinosaurs are for boys&quot; and maybe they had created that girl page so this wouldn&#039;t happen. This is bothering me. Yes, lots of boys do considered, &quot;Girl things&quot; and the other way around. But if more boys do &quot;Boy things&quot;, then wouldn&#039;t it make sense to advertise that way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Because dinosaurs aren’t for girls, you see. Dinosaurs are for boys (which goes without saying), so we have to make an special space full of stuffed animals, origami, diaries, and necklaces for the girls.&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re just trying to satisfy all the freaking feminist, all of you. Or a lot of you. I thought that this site was really interesting, I read a couple pages then realized that everything is wrong. Everything, EVERYTHING is discriminatory against women. Do you or don&#8217;t you want special treatment? It doesn&#8217;t say Anywhere that, &#8220;Dinosaurs are for boys&#8221; and maybe they had created that girl page so this wouldn&#8217;t happen. This is bothering me. Yes, lots of boys do considered, &#8220;Girl things&#8221; and the other way around. But if more boys do &#8220;Boy things&#8221;, then wouldn&#8217;t it make sense to advertise that way?</p>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-158508</link>
		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Total # of &quot;dinosaurs for girls&quot; products: 15
# of items in the &quot;dinos for girls&quot; category not gendered with pink or flowers: 5
# of items that don&#039;t involve crafts or plush toys: 3 (and two are pink, one is a diary, one is a necklace)
Most Ridiculous Product Name: Cuddlekins Utahraptor

Things I would&#039;ve liked to have as a kid (and, okay, maybe now):
Large Flying Reptile
T-Rex/Stegosaurus T-shirt
Dig N Play Lost Jungle Game 
Dinosaur Excavation Game
Bouncy Dinosaur Balls
Cosmic Glow Dinosaur Shapes
Dinobot 
Pretty much any of the models (Baby mammoth 4 lyfe)

# of things in the above list that appear in the girls&#039; section: 0

Le sigh. You know, ED (unfortunate acronym there), if you could find a way to fool sexist parents into thinking that the Dinobot is a toy for girls, I would probably forgive you. Maybe some photos of a little girl using it as a mount for Troll Hunter Barbie? IDK.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Total # of &#8220;dinosaurs for girls&#8221; products: 15<br />
# of items in the &#8220;dinos for girls&#8221; category not gendered with pink or flowers: 5<br />
# of items that don&#8217;t involve crafts or plush toys: 3 (and two are pink, one is a diary, one is a necklace)<br />
Most Ridiculous Product Name: Cuddlekins Utahraptor</p>
<p>Things I would&#8217;ve liked to have as a kid (and, okay, maybe now):<br />
Large Flying Reptile<br />
T-Rex/Stegosaurus T-shirt<br />
Dig N Play Lost Jungle Game<br />
Dinosaur Excavation Game<br />
Bouncy Dinosaur Balls<br />
Cosmic Glow Dinosaur Shapes<br />
Dinobot<br />
Pretty much any of the models (Baby mammoth 4 lyfe)</p>
<p># of things in the above list that appear in the girls&#8217; section: 0</p>
<p>Le sigh. You know, ED (unfortunate acronym there), if you could find a way to fool sexist parents into thinking that the Dinobot is a toy for girls, I would probably forgive you. Maybe some photos of a little girl using it as a mount for Troll Hunter Barbie? IDK.</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-156397</link>
		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They&#039;ve changed. Dinosaurs and science kits are strictly in the boy&#039;s aisles now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They&#8217;ve changed. Dinosaurs and science kits are strictly in the boy&#8217;s aisles now.</p>
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		<title>By: jynja</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-156347</link>
		<dc:creator>jynja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 15:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dinosaurs were in the unisex isle at the store when I was a kid.  Maybe things have changed.  The only reason I didn&#039;t get to play with them before my brother is because they were hard plastic and pointy.  Something I could put in my mouth.  Later I inherited his toys and they were a wonderful expression of imagination for me in the sandbox.

Because I got to play with them as a child.  I could imagine building one as an adult. http://www.jynja.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dinosaurs were in the unisex isle at the store when I was a kid.  Maybe things have changed.  The only reason I didn&#8217;t get to play with them before my brother is because they were hard plastic and pointy.  Something I could put in my mouth.  Later I inherited his toys and they were a wonderful expression of imagination for me in the sandbox.</p>
<p>Because I got to play with them as a child.  I could imagine building one as an adult. <a href="http://www.jynja.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.jynja.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Shae</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-156277</link>
		<dc:creator>Shae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 14:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, I was a kid in the 70&#039;s and that obsession was certainly around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, I was a kid in the 70&#8242;s and that obsession was certainly around.</p>
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		<title>By: Chelsea</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-152593</link>
		<dc:creator>Chelsea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 16:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, I think the whole &quot;search engine&quot; problem could be addressed without pushing girls to the bottom of the list by simply including all of the girls&#039; products in with the rest as well, thus rendering the &quot;girls&quot; section just collecting all of the possibly-girlie things in one place.

I can understand the desire to pander to parents and guardians, but I think there are plenty of other ways to address it.  One way would be to include &quot;boys and girls&quot; in the descriptions, and to throw in pictures of boys AND girls holding/playing with the toys.  What&#039;s with the boy holding the &quot;bed buddy&quot; stegosaurus in *two* pictures?  Why can&#039;t you have one picture of the boy and one picture of the girl?  I think this is just a matter of not trying hard enough and just throwing up their hands and saying &quot;Whatever!  Who cares?!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, I think the whole &#8220;search engine&#8221; problem could be addressed without pushing girls to the bottom of the list by simply including all of the girls&#8217; products in with the rest as well, thus rendering the &#8220;girls&#8221; section just collecting all of the possibly-girlie things in one place.</p>
<p>I can understand the desire to pander to parents and guardians, but I think there are plenty of other ways to address it.  One way would be to include &#8220;boys and girls&#8221; in the descriptions, and to throw in pictures of boys AND girls holding/playing with the toys.  What&#8217;s with the boy holding the &#8220;bed buddy&#8221; stegosaurus in *two* pictures?  Why can&#8217;t you have one picture of the boy and one picture of the girl?  I think this is just a matter of not trying hard enough and just throwing up their hands and saying &#8220;Whatever!  Who cares?!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Feminist Friday Quick Clicks, 10 and Open Thread &#171; Cook &#38; Hook</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-152561</link>
		<dc:creator>Feminist Friday Quick Clicks, 10 and Open Thread &#171; Cook &#38; Hook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 15:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Dinosaurs are for Boys (Girls Allowed)&#8220;-  Sociological Images discussing androcentrism, &#8220;or the idea that boy things are good for everyone but girl things are only good for girls&#8221; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Dinosaurs are for Boys (Girls Allowed)&#8220;-  Sociological Images discussing androcentrism, &#8220;or the idea that boy things are good for everyone but girl things are only good for girls&#8221; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: mc</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/24/dinosaurs-are-for-boys-girls-allowed/comment-page-1/#comment-151742</link>
		<dc:creator>mc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 01:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i totally was obsessed with dinosaurs as a kid. granted my mom was really into encouraging me into sciencey things and discouraged &#039;lame girly stuff&#039; (ah, the disappointment she must feel now knowing i blog mainly about -- the horror! -- fashion) -- but, like, i had a rock collection, and an ass-ton of lil&#039; plastic dinosaurs, and a lot of books about science experiments. and a lot of art supplies. and an american girl doll, and a kitchen playset, and some sort of nontoxic nail polish set for kids. and i did ballet, and i played (co-ed until age 8 or so, when body weight/size became a difference) soccer. american girl doll got along really well with the dinosaurs, let me tell you.  and the giant plastic sunny side up eggs from the kitchen set made awesome volcanoes in dinosaurland. 

also, i am SO SO SO SO HAPPY to see all this discussion on the one-sided view of sexism, and am so agreed on this -- i love when people here remember to point out the double problem of the gender standard, which is that it&#039;s detrimental to BOYS too. when i made a fried egg a volcano my parents praised me for my creativity, but if a boy stole his sister&#039;s toy fried egg, his parents would probably be embarrassed and tell him not to play with girl stuff. and in the long run, this sucks for basically everyone.  as an adamant feminist, i still get so angry about so much feminism being all about men-and-society-do-bad-things-to-women when in reality, it&#039;s current-system-sucks-for-all-of-us-regardless-of-gender. sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i totally was obsessed with dinosaurs as a kid. granted my mom was really into encouraging me into sciencey things and discouraged &#8216;lame girly stuff&#8217; (ah, the disappointment she must feel now knowing i blog mainly about &#8212; the horror! &#8212; fashion) &#8212; but, like, i had a rock collection, and an ass-ton of lil&#8217; plastic dinosaurs, and a lot of books about science experiments. and a lot of art supplies. and an american girl doll, and a kitchen playset, and some sort of nontoxic nail polish set for kids. and i did ballet, and i played (co-ed until age 8 or so, when body weight/size became a difference) soccer. american girl doll got along really well with the dinosaurs, let me tell you.  and the giant plastic sunny side up eggs from the kitchen set made awesome volcanoes in dinosaurland. </p>
<p>also, i am SO SO SO SO HAPPY to see all this discussion on the one-sided view of sexism, and am so agreed on this &#8212; i love when people here remember to point out the double problem of the gender standard, which is that it&#8217;s detrimental to BOYS too. when i made a fried egg a volcano my parents praised me for my creativity, but if a boy stole his sister&#8217;s toy fried egg, his parents would probably be embarrassed and tell him not to play with girl stuff. and in the long run, this sucks for basically everyone.  as an adamant feminist, i still get so angry about so much feminism being all about men-and-society-do-bad-things-to-women when in reality, it&#8217;s current-system-sucks-for-all-of-us-regardless-of-gender. sigh.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Meara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Meara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, of course not. Was just emphasising the second point because I thought it was an interesting, less explored side of the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, of course not. Was just emphasising the second point because I thought it was an interesting, less explored side of the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 10:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading the reply from &quot;Everything Dinosaur&quot;, it strikes me that this is really just positive discrimination -- there is a section for everyone, and then there&#039;s a subsection specifically dedicated to girls.
Is that much different from having specific resources for women in engineering, computer science, or physics?
Of course that doesn&#039;t mean that this doesn&#039;t have the unintended effect you&#039;re describing in those areas too, but I&#039;d think in those cases we tend to be a little more prepared to say that it&#039;s a difficult and subtle debate with no simple answers?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading the reply from &#8220;Everything Dinosaur&#8221;, it strikes me that this is really just positive discrimination &#8212; there is a section for everyone, and then there&#8217;s a subsection specifically dedicated to girls.<br />
Is that much different from having specific resources for women in engineering, computer science, or physics?<br />
Of course that doesn&#8217;t mean that this doesn&#8217;t have the unintended effect you&#8217;re describing in those areas too, but I&#8217;d think in those cases we tend to be a little more prepared to say that it&#8217;s a difficult and subtle debate with no simple answers?</p>
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		<title>By: Seegz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seegz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was speaking for the benefit of people who aren&#039;t as therapodally-literate as you and I. Yeah, Deinonychus is twice the badass that Velociraptor could ever hope to be.

Even though I&#039;m partial to the abeliosaurids. Carnotaurus was a monster.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was speaking for the benefit of people who aren&#8217;t as therapodally-literate as you and I. Yeah, Deinonychus is twice the badass that Velociraptor could ever hope to be.</p>
<p>Even though I&#8217;m partial to the abeliosaurids. Carnotaurus was a monster.</p>
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