(I better get back to the kitchen before I gets a beatin’.)

So it’s not targeted at people with medical conditions, but rather advertising permanent makeup like the eyeshadow that takes up the majority of the ad? Your wheelchair analogy was just for the lulz and doesn’t apply?

I think that sensible differentiation can be made in between the harmful demeaning pictures and the ones that are not, like this one we have here. Or are you saying that women get some sort of subliminal messages from pictures such as this that make them behave in certain manner?

The “it doesn’t make anybody do anything” is essentially a cop-out for all of sociology and social psychology, and it isn’t really relevant. It’s not about forcing anybody to do anything.

Or that ads some how affects the ideal of women in society and thus push this type of thing into its norms?

That’s what you were saying in the second part of your first post, I’d go with that.

Or are you perhaps saying that an adult person cannot control her impulses consciously with the things that are been shown in ads?

That’s basically the same as your first question, just more ridiculous.

I personally do not submit to this “everything that is viewed is automatically absorbed by the mind” theory. Mainly because it is false and based on pseudo-scientific opinionated nonsense. And no, seeing most definitely is not believing.

I dunno exactly what you mean by “absorbed” but of course everything you see goes through your brain, otherwise you wouldn’t see it. And even images that you don’t consciously think about can affect your behavior.

But regardless, the point of the original blog post was to point out the “natural” part of the ad and the language used to frame the whole thing, not to say that it particularly denigrates women.

You can point to any single ad and say that it by itself doesn’t normalize a certain behavior, and of course it doesn’t, it’s the abundance of similar images that does the trick. This one ad is simply an example of the normalization of makeup, its conflation with beauty, and the original points about language.

That it doesn’t stick out as being particularly harmful to you is nothing more than a measure of its normalization.

What you seem to be saying is that images have effects and normalize certain behaviors. Would you agree with that? Then, after that, you say that it’s up to the individual to not pay attention to the ad. Is that right? So, are these behaviors normalized because of too many people, on an individual basis, accepting advertising claims, which they would not if they had common sense/were in their right mind?

I think that sensible differentiation can be made in between the harmful demeaning pictures and the ones that are not, like this one we have here. Or are you saying that women get some sort of subliminal messages from pictures such as this that make them behave in certain manner? Or that ads some how affects the ideal of women in society and thus push this type of thing into its norms? Or are you perhaps saying that an adult person cannot control her impulses consciously with the things that are been shown in ads?

I personally do not submit to this “everything that is viewed is automatically absorbed by the mind” theory. Mainly because it is false and based on pseudo-scientific opinionated nonsense. And no, seeing most definitely is not believing.

That’s all.

Really? Targeted towards people with medical issues? Maybe the tiny pictures in the bottom right, but what is the woman in the huge picture that makes up most of the rest of the ad suffering from? Eyelidsnotpinkenoughitis?

As for the make up part of it… Everyone here agrees that such constant normative portrayal of women in media has an effect, especially for the younger people. But then again, I take that each member of the female sex has enough sense of sensibility to not take the dispreferred messages to heart. Like an ad like this, there is no way that any person in their right mind would feel that it is threatening or oppressive in any way what so ever. Common sense, applies to feminism too. Hopefully.

So everyone agrees it has an affect, and that’s bad, but not bad in a way that you would want to object to it?

Because people are only affected if they don’t have common sense.

Even though we all agree it affects people, it really shouldn’t affect people, it’s their fault for not being in their right mind. This is what I’m getting from that.

As for the make up part of it… Everyone here agrees that such constant normative portrayal of women in media has an effect, especially for the younger people. But then again, I take that each member of the female sex has enough sense of sensibility to not take the dispreferred messages to heart. Like an ad like this, there is no way that any person in their right mind would feel that it is threatening or oppressive in any way what so ever. Common sense, applies to feminism too. Hopefully.