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	<title>Comments on: Best Buy Assumes All Customers Are Male</title>
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		<title>By: Traitorfish</title>
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		<dc:creator>Traitorfish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 18:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m up in the air as to whether the ad is an example of &quot;masculine is neutral&quot;, or whether the article is an example of &quot;neutral is masculine&quot;. I&#039;m leaning towards the former, obviously, but I can&#039;t but feel that the latter isn&#039;t *entirely* incorrect; even if a tie can be assumed to be masculine, I wouldn&#039;t see a camera as such, especially not in the context of the audience of an electronics retailer. Cameras, are, in fact, one of the electronic products I would&#039;ve considered to be free of the stereotypical association with the &quot;male gadget-geek&quot; demographic.

I also think it&#039;s possible that there isn&#039;t really a female equivalent to the stereotypical male Bad Gifts of ties and socks; the generic female gift is perfume or bath products, which are, to a lot of people, not so much &quot;bad&quot; as &quot;not particularly thoughtful&quot;. (My GF and an old school friend have an understanding that they exchange just such gifts at Christmas, something which I can&#039;t imagine anyone doing in regards to a tie.) It may simply be that our culture lacks the appropriate gender-neutral language for communicating the concept of the generic &quot;bad gift&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m up in the air as to whether the ad is an example of &#8220;masculine is neutral&#8221;, or whether the article is an example of &#8220;neutral is masculine&#8221;. I&#8217;m leaning towards the former, obviously, but I can&#8217;t but feel that the latter isn&#8217;t *entirely* incorrect; even if a tie can be assumed to be masculine, I wouldn&#8217;t see a camera as such, especially not in the context of the audience of an electronics retailer. Cameras, are, in fact, one of the electronic products I would&#8217;ve considered to be free of the stereotypical association with the &#8220;male gadget-geek&#8221; demographic.</p>
<p>I also think it&#8217;s possible that there isn&#8217;t really a female equivalent to the stereotypical male Bad Gifts of ties and socks; the generic female gift is perfume or bath products, which are, to a lot of people, not so much &#8220;bad&#8221; as &#8220;not particularly thoughtful&#8221;. (My GF and an old school friend have an understanding that they exchange just such gifts at Christmas, something which I can&#8217;t imagine anyone doing in regards to a tie.) It may simply be that our culture lacks the appropriate gender-neutral language for communicating the concept of the generic &#8220;bad gift&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is likely the fault of the email marketing team that sends out Best Buy&#039;s emails, NOT best buy. Big corporations pay email marketers to segment and deploy and sometimes create/design their emails. Looks like the box for Sex in their database was either M for some reason or the segment pulled was wrong. I&#039;m just saying, if Best Buy knows about this, they are already asking for a credit or a database udpate asap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is likely the fault of the email marketing team that sends out Best Buy&#8217;s emails, NOT best buy. Big corporations pay email marketers to segment and deploy and sometimes create/design their emails. Looks like the box for Sex in their database was either M for some reason or the segment pulled was wrong. I&#8217;m just saying, if Best Buy knows about this, they are already asking for a credit or a database udpate asap.</p>
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		<title>By: Male as the Neutral Default &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-300336</link>
		<dc:creator>Male as the Neutral Default &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 16:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] non-default one. For instance, &#8220;regular&#8221; t-shirts are men&#8217;s, Best Buy assumes customers are male, stick figures on signs are generally male, and default avatars tend to be [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] non-default one. For instance, &#8220;regular&#8221; t-shirts are men&#8217;s, Best Buy assumes customers are male, stick figures on signs are generally male, and default avatars tend to be [...]</p>
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		<title>By: SimWebb</title>
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		<dc:creator>SimWebb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 22:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cuz men (as with white, straight, and middle-class) is what is known as the Unmarked Category.  Considered normal, it doesn&#039;t need to be mentioned.  It&#039;s worth noting if someone&#039;s black, but if they&#039;re white, their race is much less-frequently pointed out- think of someone describing to you one of their friends who you don&#039;t know.  You wouldn&#039;t expect them to mention sexuality or race, especially, unless they were other than straight, white.
Gender and class are a bit different in this context (gender would definitely be mentioned, class rarely) but most of culture, e.g. books, videos, etc. is usually implicitly addressed to the unmarked category unless EXPLICITLY stated otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cuz men (as with white, straight, and middle-class) is what is known as the Unmarked Category.  Considered normal, it doesn&#8217;t need to be mentioned.  It&#8217;s worth noting if someone&#8217;s black, but if they&#8217;re white, their race is much less-frequently pointed out- think of someone describing to you one of their friends who you don&#8217;t know.  You wouldn&#8217;t expect them to mention sexuality or race, especially, unless they were other than straight, white.<br />
Gender and class are a bit different in this context (gender would definitely be mentioned, class rarely) but most of culture, e.g. books, videos, etc. is usually implicitly addressed to the unmarked category unless EXPLICITLY stated otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Who Buys For the Family? &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-144192</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Buys For the Family? &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A. sent in a Zellers sale flyer that is really interesting in light of the recent post we did on a Best Buy promotion. Whereas the Best Buy promotion was aimed directly at men, you&#8217;ll see that this flyer, for a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A. sent in a Zellers sale flyer that is really interesting in light of the recent post we did on a Best Buy promotion. Whereas the Best Buy promotion was aimed directly at men, you&#8217;ll see that this flyer, for a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pink sparkly linkspam (November 16th, 2009) &#124; Geek Feminism Blog</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-142907</link>
		<dc:creator>Pink sparkly linkspam (November 16th, 2009) &#124; Geek Feminism Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:09:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] apps for girls, Best Buy assumes all customers are male, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: bobsfrankenbeans</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobsfrankenbeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:47:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[*of* a tie] - whups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[*of* a tie] &#8211; whups.</p>
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		<title>By: bobsfrankenbeans</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-141862</link>
		<dc:creator>bobsfrankenbeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 17:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>but... maybe the issue is that they imply that the tie would be a bad gift because she IS a woman, and only men would receive (and not enjoy the gift) or a tie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but&#8230; maybe the issue is that they imply that the tie would be a bad gift because she IS a woman, and only men would receive (and not enjoy the gift) or a tie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: McT</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-141557</link>
		<dc:creator>McT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 01:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.wildties.com/browse/accessories/womens_accessories/womens_neckties

;)
Valid point, just thought I would be winding you up a but with the link :)

I tend to be a dreamer and my vision of equality is, as you said, of the &quot;magical society-free vacuum&quot; type.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.wildties.com/browse/accessories/womens_accessories/womens_neckties" rel="nofollow">http://www.wildties.com/browse/accessories/womens_accessories/womens_neckties</a></p>
<p>;)<br />
Valid point, just thought I would be winding you up a but with the link :)</p>
<p>I tend to be a dreamer and my vision of equality is, as you said, of the &#8220;magical society-free vacuum&#8221; type.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-141410</link>
		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well said, Cycles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well said, Cycles.</p>
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		<title>By: Cycles</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-141399</link>
		<dc:creator>Cycles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:35:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nobody is saying individual women cannot wear neckties, or will not start wearing them later. In a magical society-free vacuum, a necktie would just be another piece of cloth.

But in this world, today, a necktie has a meaning. The advertiser used it to represent an idea that&#039;s generally recognized by most viewers. It&#039;s why they chose that particular image. Necktie means &quot;bad gift.&quot; But it also means &quot;something men wear.&quot; 

The next time you walk into a department store, please show me the women&#039;s necktie section. The problem being discussed here isn&#039;t that women don&#039;t wear neckties; it&#039;s that the ad uses a male-coded image to represent a universal idea, and that this particular ad is part of a larger phenomenon where the male identity and experience is treated as the generic default.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is saying individual women cannot wear neckties, or will not start wearing them later. In a magical society-free vacuum, a necktie would just be another piece of cloth.</p>
<p>But in this world, today, a necktie has a meaning. The advertiser used it to represent an idea that&#8217;s generally recognized by most viewers. It&#8217;s why they chose that particular image. Necktie means &#8220;bad gift.&#8221; But it also means &#8220;something men wear.&#8221; </p>
<p>The next time you walk into a department store, please show me the women&#8217;s necktie section. The problem being discussed here isn&#8217;t that women don&#8217;t wear neckties; it&#8217;s that the ad uses a male-coded image to represent a universal idea, and that this particular ad is part of a larger phenomenon where the male identity and experience is treated as the generic default.</p>
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		<title>By: McT</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-140972</link>
		<dc:creator>McT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exactly what I was trying to say, you just did it better and simpler :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly what I was trying to say, you just did it better and simpler :)</p>
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		<title>By: A</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-140892</link>
		<dc:creator>A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 19:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a blog that has a lot of articles show casing sexism in the media, shouldn&#039;t they relink back to this post in the future? Saying that one particular item of clothing and a piece of electronics is for men only, that seems rather sexist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a blog that has a lot of articles show casing sexism in the media, shouldn&#8217;t they relink back to this post in the future? Saying that one particular item of clothing and a piece of electronics is for men only, that seems rather sexist.</p>
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		<title>By: Quijotesca</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-140830</link>
		<dc:creator>Quijotesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:46:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Obamama? Wow. Must&#039;ve been some sort of Freudian typo. ;p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obamama? Wow. Must&#8217;ve been some sort of Freudian typo. ;p</p>
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		<title>By: Quijotesca</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/11/11/best-buy-assumes-all-customers-are-male/comment-page-1/#comment-140829</link>
		<dc:creator>Quijotesca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just get &quot;Obama wants to give moms money!&quot; a lot. I got &quot;Obamama wants to give women&quot; money twice. What I really hate is fertility clinic ads, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just get &#8220;Obama wants to give moms money!&#8221; a lot. I got &#8220;Obamama wants to give women&#8221; money twice. What I really hate is fertility clinic ads, though.</p>
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