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		<title>By: cheap bras</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jan 2012 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing write-up! This could aid plenty of people find out more about this particular issue. Are you keen to integrate video clips coupled with these? It would absolutely help out. Your conclusion was spot on and thanks to you; I probably won’t have to describe everything to my pals. I can simply direct them here!</description>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jun 2011 02:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my context (grad school), I don&#039;t see that happening as often as I see &quot;assertive&quot; women cutting off the women who aren&#039;t as certain of their right to speak or the quality of their thoughts, criticizing the few words that DO from time to time come from these women, and hiding their domination of the silenced (or just quieter) women beneath discourse about male domination of talk. Their &quot;assertiveness,&quot; just like that which is exercised by males, fails to create room for others&#039; speech. Meanwhile, the &quot;assertive&quot; women position themselves as feminist activists, and their aggressive behavior is therefore more difficult to reproach than men&#039;s aggression. Those women (and nonprivileged men) who are struggling under the heaviest weight of male speech privilege are then further weighed down by the &quot;assertive&quot; women&#039;s use of the same old dominance tactics as men have deployed in classrooms in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my context (grad school), I don&#8217;t see that happening as often as I see &#8220;assertive&#8221; women cutting off the women who aren&#8217;t as certain of their right to speak or the quality of their thoughts, criticizing the few words that DO from time to time come from these women, and hiding their domination of the silenced (or just quieter) women beneath discourse about male domination of talk. Their &#8220;assertiveness,&#8221; just like that which is exercised by males, fails to create room for others&#8217; speech. Meanwhile, the &#8220;assertive&#8221; women position themselves as feminist activists, and their aggressive behavior is therefore more difficult to reproach than men&#8217;s aggression. Those women (and nonprivileged men) who are struggling under the heaviest weight of male speech privilege are then further weighed down by the &#8220;assertive&#8221; women&#8217;s use of the same old dominance tactics as men have deployed in classrooms in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 23:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my context (grad school), I don&#039;t see that happening as often as I see &quot;assertive&quot; women cutting off the women who aren&#039;t as certain of their right to speak or the quality of their thoughts, criticizing the few words that DO from time to time come from these women, and hiding their domination of the silenced (or just quieter) women beneath discourse about male domination of talk. Their &quot;assertiveness,&quot; just like that which is exercised by males, fails to create room for others&#039; speech. Meanwhile, the &quot;assertive&quot; women position themselves as feminist activists, and their aggressive behavior is therefore more difficult to reproach than men&#039;s aggression. Those women (and nonprivileged men) who are struggling under the heaviest weight of male speech privilege are then further weighed down by the &quot;assertive&quot; women&#039;s use of the same old dominance tactics as men have deployed in classrooms in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my context (grad school), I don&#8217;t see that happening as often as I see &#8220;assertive&#8221; women cutting off the women who aren&#8217;t as certain of their right to speak or the quality of their thoughts, criticizing the few words that DO from time to time come from these women, and hiding their domination of the silenced (or just quieter) women beneath discourse about male domination of talk. Their &#8220;assertiveness,&#8221; just like that which is exercised by males, fails to create room for others&#8217; speech. Meanwhile, the &#8220;assertive&#8221; women position themselves as feminist activists, and their aggressive behavior is therefore more difficult to reproach than men&#8217;s aggression. Those women (and nonprivileged men) who are struggling under the heaviest weight of male speech privilege are then further weighed down by the &#8220;assertive&#8221; women&#8217;s use of the same old dominance tactics as men have deployed in classrooms in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author cited above is not the same as Deborah Tannen.</description>
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		<title>By: Jenny T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenny T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jan 2011 05:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have ADD (not the hyperactive version).  While I can see that taking the photos out of context might tell a story you don&#039;t like.....I hate to tell you that they tell the truth about women with ADD.  If you are the hyperactive version that goes around seeking stimulus in ways that create even less appropriate views of women, then you tend to be a talker, gossiper, party organizer and a stirrer of social mess.  The mess is an entertaining outlet.  A chaos that calms. 

Perhaps we should take a look at another social prejudice against women.  You know, those too ignorant to research, understand, and put it all in the proper context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have ADD (not the hyperactive version).  While I can see that taking the photos out of context might tell a story you don&#8217;t like&#8230;..I hate to tell you that they tell the truth about women with ADD.  If you are the hyperactive version that goes around seeking stimulus in ways that create even less appropriate views of women, then you tend to be a talker, gossiper, party organizer and a stirrer of social mess.  The mess is an entertaining outlet.  A chaos that calms. </p>
<p>Perhaps we should take a look at another social prejudice against women.  You know, those too ignorant to research, understand, and put it all in the proper context.</p>
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		<title>By: AMGunn</title>
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		<dc:creator>AMGunn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 19:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Take a look at the credentials of who wrote the article they based this slideshow on. The woman has ADD or ADHD and has co-written a book for women with ADD/ADHD: Quinn and Nadeau certainly know the territory. Each has ADD. Each is the mother of children who have ADD. And each is a mental-health professional who has spent decades working with ADD families—Quinn as a developmental pediatrician, Nadeau as a psychologist. (Both Quinn and Nadeau are contributors to ADDitude).

Therefore, the author of the article is dealing with this disorder, and the tone taken in the slideshow implies that it&#039;s entirely possible she&#039;s down on herself for having ADD/ADHD. I would go back and read her work and then compare it to this slideshow to determine for yourself whether or not you see her attitude toward ADD/ADHD as being, necessarily, a detriment. She might very well have a prejudice against women who have ADD/ADHD, and be expressing her own frustration with her perceived limitations as applying to all women who have ADD/ADHD.

The interesting thing I&#039;m noticing too is that ADD/ADHD fits so neatly into gendered stereotypes. If that&#039;s the case, I&#039;d want to be EXTREMELY certain I wasn&#039;t being pigeonholed by some doctor who diagnosed ADD/ADHD because of cultural stereotypes about what anxiety, talkativeness, and some of the other more &quot;obviously&quot; female problems associated with ADD imply. Reminds me way too much of doctors 100 years ago (approx.) who diagnosed women with &quot;hysterical wombs&quot; and recommended hysterectomies. A lot of unnecessary hysterectomies were performed because of social prejudice against women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Take a look at the credentials of who wrote the article they based this slideshow on. The woman has ADD or ADHD and has co-written a book for women with ADD/ADHD: Quinn and Nadeau certainly know the territory. Each has ADD. Each is the mother of children who have ADD. And each is a mental-health professional who has spent decades working with ADD families—Quinn as a developmental pediatrician, Nadeau as a psychologist. (Both Quinn and Nadeau are contributors to ADDitude).</p>
<p>Therefore, the author of the article is dealing with this disorder, and the tone taken in the slideshow implies that it&#8217;s entirely possible she&#8217;s down on herself for having ADD/ADHD. I would go back and read her work and then compare it to this slideshow to determine for yourself whether or not you see her attitude toward ADD/ADHD as being, necessarily, a detriment. She might very well have a prejudice against women who have ADD/ADHD, and be expressing her own frustration with her perceived limitations as applying to all women who have ADD/ADHD.</p>
<p>The interesting thing I&#8217;m noticing too is that ADD/ADHD fits so neatly into gendered stereotypes. If that&#8217;s the case, I&#8217;d want to be EXTREMELY certain I wasn&#8217;t being pigeonholed by some doctor who diagnosed ADD/ADHD because of cultural stereotypes about what anxiety, talkativeness, and some of the other more &#8220;obviously&#8221; female problems associated with ADD imply. Reminds me way too much of doctors 100 years ago (approx.) who diagnosed women with &#8220;hysterical wombs&#8221; and recommended hysterectomies. A lot of unnecessary hysterectomies were performed because of social prejudice against women.</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, women tend to want to take responsibility for relationships because society is pushing them to do so. Women are told that they are the sensitive, nurturing gender that are experts in relationships. Men are told that they have trouble with emotions (indeed, real men aren&#039;t supposed to have them at all) and &quot;just don&#039;t get it&quot; when it comes to making their women happy. They don&#039;t understand, according to our cultural myths, what gifts to give a woman, which occasions are worth remembering, or what women like to talk about. Most relationship advice books are targeted toward women. Those that are supposedly targeted toward both sexes, like Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, still place most of the burden of fixing the relationship on women. And while women are being pushed to be the ever-pleasing problem-solvers of relationships, men are increasingly told by our pornified society to be selfish. Advertising, music videos, and television create a fictional world where men, no matter how unattractive or overweight, have flocks of beautiful women running to their side. The result is far too many men that have been led to believe that they have no responsibility when it comes to relationships: the ideal relationship is one where a woman unconditionally accepts him for who he is and he always gets his way.

The truth, of course, is that men and women are both responsible for understanding one another and learning to be in a relationship, but unfortunately, both men and women have been led to believe otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, women tend to want to take responsibility for relationships because society is pushing them to do so. Women are told that they are the sensitive, nurturing gender that are experts in relationships. Men are told that they have trouble with emotions (indeed, real men aren&#8217;t supposed to have them at all) and &#8220;just don&#8217;t get it&#8221; when it comes to making their women happy. They don&#8217;t understand, according to our cultural myths, what gifts to give a woman, which occasions are worth remembering, or what women like to talk about. Most relationship advice books are targeted toward women. Those that are supposedly targeted toward both sexes, like Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus, still place most of the burden of fixing the relationship on women. And while women are being pushed to be the ever-pleasing problem-solvers of relationships, men are increasingly told by our pornified society to be selfish. Advertising, music videos, and television create a fictional world where men, no matter how unattractive or overweight, have flocks of beautiful women running to their side. The result is far too many men that have been led to believe that they have no responsibility when it comes to relationships: the ideal relationship is one where a woman unconditionally accepts him for who he is and he always gets his way.</p>
<p>The truth, of course, is that men and women are both responsible for understanding one another and learning to be in a relationship, but unfortunately, both men and women have been led to believe otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Nixon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve Nixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:47:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that women are &quot;being held responsible&quot; for the direction of a relationship rather they tend to want to take responsibility for it. Each person is responsible for the result they achieve out of any given situation so by taking responsibility they increase the chance that they will succeed. If women take more responsibility for their relationships then they have more chance of achieving the relationship they want. Conversely if a man doesn&#039;t take responsibility for his relationships he is going to get less out of it. If you are driving the bus there is more chance you will get to where you want to go. Just a thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that women are &#8220;being held responsible&#8221; for the direction of a relationship rather they tend to want to take responsibility for it. Each person is responsible for the result they achieve out of any given situation so by taking responsibility they increase the chance that they will succeed. If women take more responsibility for their relationships then they have more chance of achieving the relationship they want. Conversely if a man doesn&#8217;t take responsibility for his relationships he is going to get less out of it. If you are driving the bus there is more chance you will get to where you want to go. Just a thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 08:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, absolutely agree with everything you said.  The article was incredibly calloused but women do have very definite issues due to societal expectations as well as how ADHD presents.  I was diagnosed at 41, after living that long with the disorder and not realizing it, being treated for addictions, depression, etc . . . 

   I belong to a couple of women specific ADHD support sites (As well as general) because it&#039;s impossible to escape and untangle social pressures and ADHD for women.  And I come from a pretty non-traditional background.  I can&#039;t imagine how hard it must be for many women who don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, absolutely agree with everything you said.  The article was incredibly calloused but women do have very definite issues due to societal expectations as well as how ADHD presents.  I was diagnosed at 41, after living that long with the disorder and not realizing it, being treated for addictions, depression, etc . . . </p>
<p>   I belong to a couple of women specific ADHD support sites (As well as general) because it&#8217;s impossible to escape and untangle social pressures and ADHD for women.  And I come from a pretty non-traditional background.  I can&#8217;t imagine how hard it must be for many women who don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: j.field</title>
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		<dc:creator>j.field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 00:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This bugs me in a bunch of different ways. For one thing, there are variable types of ADHD and within each type, there are differing levels of severity. In our society, the most frequently diagnosed and the most widely recognized is ADHD hyperactive type, the kind most common in males, it&#039;s also usually obvious earlier in life, which is partly why there&#039;s long-been a connotation of ADHD to young boys (attention deficit disorder has been recognized much longer than most people realize, I believe it&#039;s been diagnosed in some form or another since the late 1800s [sorry, I took my Adderall today, so I&#039;m not distractable enough to look that up right now]).

Women with ADHD face different challenges than men and boys do for a couple of different reasons:
1) They&#039;re often diagnosed later than men, meaning that it has different impacts on indentity formation and their support networks are different. If you&#039;re diagnosed when you&#039;re 10, you&#039;re a child, hopefully with a network of support from family and school. Conversely, if you&#039;re diagnosed at 27, you&#039;ll hopefully still have a support system, but more likely than not, it&#039;s more diffuse and you&#039;re expected to be part of others&#039; support systems.
2) The types of symptoms of the versions of ADHD women/girls have are less obvious than the types that men/boys have. I have a guy-friend with ADHD who was permitted to wander around the classroom in the 4th grade because it was evident that he had ADHD. In the meantime, in the fourth grade, I (a woman with ADHD), constantly was ahead of the reading in my classes, my teacher encouraged me because she thought I was advanced. I was, but in large part, my behavior was driven by my inability to pay attention in class.
   This article stated its arguments (or whatever you want to call them) in some pretty callous ways, but remember, one branch of feminism is devoted to recognizing the differences between women and men&#039;s symptoms. How many women have died from heart attacks because the widely published warning signs of heart attacks are the symptoms more frequent in men? 
3) The expectations for women&#039;s behavior is different. For example,as a previous poster stated, women are usually given a lot of responsibility in society for making relationships work. We&#039;re also supposed to be planners and multitaskers (personally, I do multitask, but 90% of the time it&#039;s by accident, usually because I forgot what I was doing, start something else, find what I was doing before, go back to it, etc. etc.)

As a woman with ADHD, I think that there is a lot of dialogue that should happen. For one, the popular culture version of ADHD as a &quot;Blah,blah, blah, ohh, look, something shiny!&quot; thing has got to go (and cannot go soon enough, ADHD is not cute). In that way, the article was actually a step in the right direction, it recognizes that ADHD actually causes some pretty painful issues, something that the popular paradigm completely neglects. It&#039;s not something that just goes away when you&#039;re out of school and you don&#039;t have to sit behind a desk and raise your hand. For most of us, it&#039;s their when you&#039;re out on dates, it&#039;s there when you have your own kids, and it&#039;s there when you&#039;re cooking (yeah... raise your hand if you&#039;ve set off the fire alarm multiple times). And there&#039;s not many resources out there to help you figure out how to handle those parts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This bugs me in a bunch of different ways. For one thing, there are variable types of ADHD and within each type, there are differing levels of severity. In our society, the most frequently diagnosed and the most widely recognized is ADHD hyperactive type, the kind most common in males, it&#8217;s also usually obvious earlier in life, which is partly why there&#8217;s long-been a connotation of ADHD to young boys (attention deficit disorder has been recognized much longer than most people realize, I believe it&#8217;s been diagnosed in some form or another since the late 1800s [sorry, I took my Adderall today, so I'm not distractable enough to look that up right now]).</p>
<p>Women with ADHD face different challenges than men and boys do for a couple of different reasons:<br />
1) They&#8217;re often diagnosed later than men, meaning that it has different impacts on indentity formation and their support networks are different. If you&#8217;re diagnosed when you&#8217;re 10, you&#8217;re a child, hopefully with a network of support from family and school. Conversely, if you&#8217;re diagnosed at 27, you&#8217;ll hopefully still have a support system, but more likely than not, it&#8217;s more diffuse and you&#8217;re expected to be part of others&#8217; support systems.<br />
2) The types of symptoms of the versions of ADHD women/girls have are less obvious than the types that men/boys have. I have a guy-friend with ADHD who was permitted to wander around the classroom in the 4th grade because it was evident that he had ADHD. In the meantime, in the fourth grade, I (a woman with ADHD), constantly was ahead of the reading in my classes, my teacher encouraged me because she thought I was advanced. I was, but in large part, my behavior was driven by my inability to pay attention in class.<br />
   This article stated its arguments (or whatever you want to call them) in some pretty callous ways, but remember, one branch of feminism is devoted to recognizing the differences between women and men&#8217;s symptoms. How many women have died from heart attacks because the widely published warning signs of heart attacks are the symptoms more frequent in men?<br />
3) The expectations for women&#8217;s behavior is different. For example,as a previous poster stated, women are usually given a lot of responsibility in society for making relationships work. We&#8217;re also supposed to be planners and multitaskers (personally, I do multitask, but 90% of the time it&#8217;s by accident, usually because I forgot what I was doing, start something else, find what I was doing before, go back to it, etc. etc.)</p>
<p>As a woman with ADHD, I think that there is a lot of dialogue that should happen. For one, the popular culture version of ADHD as a &#8220;Blah,blah, blah, ohh, look, something shiny!&#8221; thing has got to go (and cannot go soon enough, ADHD is not cute). In that way, the article was actually a step in the right direction, it recognizes that ADHD actually causes some pretty painful issues, something that the popular paradigm completely neglects. It&#8217;s not something that just goes away when you&#8217;re out of school and you don&#8217;t have to sit behind a desk and raise your hand. For most of us, it&#8217;s their when you&#8217;re out on dates, it&#8217;s there when you have your own kids, and it&#8217;s there when you&#8217;re cooking (yeah&#8230; raise your hand if you&#8217;ve set off the fire alarm multiple times). And there&#8217;s not many resources out there to help you figure out how to handle those parts.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s troubling is when passive, compliant women gang up on assertive women who try to get their share of the floor by ignoring them, cutting them off, paying attention only to men, or otherwise undermining them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s troubling is when passive, compliant women gang up on assertive women who try to get their share of the floor by ignoring them, cutting them off, paying attention only to men, or otherwise undermining them.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read it a long time ago, but I hated Deborah Tannen&#039;s book because, first of all, I did not speak in the tentative way she suggested all women speak, and second, she didn&#039;t address the underlying social reasons why some women speak as she claimed.

Furthermore, many women, including myself, have had the experience of being ignored notwithstanding that they&#039;re direct.  Or they&#039;re criticised for supposedly being bossy when a man would be considered straightforward.  You can&#039;t win.

As I said, it&#039;s about power.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read it a long time ago, but I hated Deborah Tannen&#8217;s book because, first of all, I did not speak in the tentative way she suggested all women speak, and second, she didn&#8217;t address the underlying social reasons why some women speak as she claimed.</p>
<p>Furthermore, many women, including myself, have had the experience of being ignored notwithstanding that they&#8217;re direct.  Or they&#8217;re criticised for supposedly being bossy when a man would be considered straightforward.  You can&#8217;t win.</p>
<p>As I said, it&#8217;s about power.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent piece.  A lot of the &quot;miscommunication&quot; can be explained by disparities of paper.  If you have more power you listen and respond to what you choose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent piece.  A lot of the &#8220;miscommunication&#8221; can be explained by disparities of paper.  If you have more power you listen and respond to what you choose.</p>
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		<title>By: Shana</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 14:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a grown woman with ADD, I annoy the shit out of myself sometimes. I take my Adderall every day, but sometimes even medication cannot overcome my incessant talking, fidgeting, and inattentiveness. I have been married for 12 years and I am sure that I have annoyed my husband to no end at times, however; to paint it as though we are perpetually and insufferably annoying is unfair and damaging in general. I know I have issues. I struggle with them daily. I am also well educated, respected among my colleagues, and successful in my field. The treatment of this topic hearkens back to that lovely ditty from the 1950&#039;s about how a woman should act to please her husband. Reprinted from a Home Ec textbook here : http://plurkfiends.com/?p=503</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a grown woman with ADD, I annoy the shit out of myself sometimes. I take my Adderall every day, but sometimes even medication cannot overcome my incessant talking, fidgeting, and inattentiveness. I have been married for 12 years and I am sure that I have annoyed my husband to no end at times, however; to paint it as though we are perpetually and insufferably annoying is unfair and damaging in general. I know I have issues. I struggle with them daily. I am also well educated, respected among my colleagues, and successful in my field. The treatment of this topic hearkens back to that lovely ditty from the 1950&#8242;s about how a woman should act to please her husband. Reprinted from a Home Ec textbook here : <a href="http://plurkfiends.com/?p=503" rel="nofollow">http://plurkfiends.com/?p=503</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bagelsan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bagelsan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 07:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Or telling them how to gently remind me to stay on topic?&lt;/i&gt;

That seems decent. Or just asking for clarification. My friend is somewhat ADD and occasionally she&#039;ll finish saying something rather long and I&#039;ll just be like: &quot;well, that sounded like a fascinating line of reasoning but I think you skipped a step or 5 in describing your thought process there? The link between walruses and public transportation still escapes me&quot; often shortened to: &quot;wait, what? Say the middle bit again.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Or telling them how to gently remind me to stay on topic?</i></p>
<p>That seems decent. Or just asking for clarification. My friend is somewhat ADD and occasionally she&#8217;ll finish saying something rather long and I&#8217;ll just be like: &#8220;well, that sounded like a fascinating line of reasoning but I think you skipped a step or 5 in describing your thought process there? The link between walruses and public transportation still escapes me&#8221; often shortened to: &#8220;wait, what? Say the middle bit again.&#8221;</p>
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