Comments on: Halloween Hall of Shame: Fat Lap Dancer Costume http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/ Sociological Images encourages people to exercise and develop their sociological imaginations with discussions of compelling visuals that span the breadth of sociological inquiry. Fri, 25 May 2012 19:25:00 +0000 hourly 1 By: Elessar http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-229820 Elessar Tue, 02 Mar 2010 16:47:33 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-229820 I've never seen anything quite so disturbing, especially considering that there are a ton of plus-size costumes for men and women that don't feel the need to make a racist social commentary. Case in point: http://www.plussizecostumesupercenter.com/womens+plus+size.html You won't find anything quite so politically incorrect in that grouping. You also won't find men wearing a woman's costume like the guy in the picture... Must be the proudest moment of his modeling career. I’ve never seen anything quite so disturbing, especially considering that there are a ton of plus-size costumes for men and women that don’t feel the need to make a racist social commentary. Case in point: http://www.plussizecostumesupercenter.com/womens+plus+size.html

You won’t find anything quite so politically incorrect in that grouping. You also won’t find men wearing a woman’s costume like the guy in the picture… Must be the proudest moment of his modeling career.

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]]> By: plus size costumes – Latest plus size costumes news – I Saw The Perfect Plus Size Halloween Costume For Me « Adrenalina http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-187910 plus size costumes – Latest plus size costumes news – I Saw The Perfect Plus Size Halloween Costume For Me « Adrenalina Tue, 12 Jan 2010 02:34:53 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-187910 [...] Halloween Hall of Shame: Fat Lap Dancer Costume » Sociological Images [...] [...] Halloween Hall of Shame: Fat Lap Dancer Costume » Sociological Images [...]

]]> By: Joey http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-183336 Joey Sat, 02 Jan 2010 20:35:43 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-183336 Nice use of gender neutral pronouns! : D Nice use of gender neutral pronouns! : D

]]> By: Nick http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-136583 Nick Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:21:05 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-136583 awww really just for me? awww really just for me?

]]> By: Nick http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-136582 Nick Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:19:48 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-136582 i meant its absurd because its man is wearing it... i guess i really just have a different sense of you humor than you people i don't think that jokes about race or gender or whatever are offensive because i know that you don't have to take them seriously. i am comfortable with them knowing that i don't consider appearance when judging character. so although this may be offensive to some people it doesn't mean that everyone needs to find it offensive or they're racists. a lot of great comedians make fun of race and gender all the time, that doesn't mean that they consider certain people to be somehow worse than them. there's a lot more offensive shit on the chapelle show and i honestly don't think it degrades anyone except for the people who take it out of context or as somehow a serious offense. so yeah i can see why it offends some people but i don't think theres any fat black strippers out there crying over this. i meant its absurd because its man is wearing it… i guess i really just have a different sense of you humor than you people i don’t think that jokes about race or gender or whatever are offensive because i know that you don’t have to take them seriously. i am comfortable with them knowing that i don’t consider appearance when judging character. so although this may be offensive to some people it doesn’t mean that everyone needs to find it offensive or they’re racists. a lot of great comedians make fun of race and gender all the time, that doesn’t mean that they consider certain people to be somehow worse than them. there’s a lot more offensive shit on the chapelle show and i honestly don’t think it degrades anyone except for the people who take it out of context or as somehow a serious offense. so yeah i can see why it offends some people but i don’t think theres any fat black strippers out there crying over this.

]]> By: withoutscene http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-136381 withoutscene Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:45:08 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-136381 I gotta say that body size is in no way secondary here. Just like race, class, and gender, it's integral. After all, the joke IS the fatness...and the man-dressed-as-woman thing. That's not saying that without the fatness the costume isn't still offensive, but "man dressed as disgusting fat woman who thinks she's sexy (who is typically marginalized by class, race, or ethnicity)" is a prevalent theme in Halloween costumes. I do an class exercise on intersectionality and fat Halloween costumes. Perhaps I'll send it along. I gotta say that body size is in no way secondary here. Just like race, class, and gender, it’s integral. After all, the joke IS the fatness…and the man-dressed-as-woman thing. That’s not saying that without the fatness the costume isn’t still offensive, but “man dressed as disgusting fat woman who thinks she’s sexy (who is typically marginalized by class, race, or ethnicity)” is a prevalent theme in Halloween costumes. I do an class exercise on intersectionality and fat Halloween costumes. Perhaps I’ll send it along.

]]> By: Village Idiot http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-136276 Village Idiot Mon, 02 Nov 2009 16:29:35 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-136276 Well, if perversion in this context means a sexual pathology, if we are physiologically hard-wired to desire sex, and if we posses specialized anatomy just for that purpose then it seems to me that not having any kind of sex at all is much more contrary to our nature than objectification or exploitation. I'm going with a clinical interpretation more so than a social one, I guess. And I should add that I don't consider a mere lack of sex to qualify as pathological; I'm talking about intentionally and arbitrarily avoiding sex altogether. Well, if perversion in this context means a sexual pathology, if we are physiologically hard-wired to desire sex, and if we posses specialized anatomy just for that purpose then it seems to me that not having any kind of sex at all is much more contrary to our nature than objectification or exploitation. I’m going with a clinical interpretation more so than a social one, I guess. And I should add that I don’t consider a mere lack of sex to qualify as pathological; I’m talking about intentionally and arbitrarily avoiding sex altogether.

]]> By: rachel http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135853 rachel Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:09:22 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135853 what it's "meant" to do is of little consequence, there, nick...fact of the matter is the end result is that is DOES degrade poor black women. just because the costume's creator might've been an insensitive, ignorant asshole, who didn't realize the implications of the costume, does not mean that hir actions don't have real social consequences. a "fat stripper", and black, too, can only be considered "absurd" in a universe where fat, black women are considered "absurd"...and if YOU think they are, then I'm sorry to inform you, you are a bigot. what it’s “meant” to do is of little consequence, there, nick…fact of the matter is the end result is that is DOES degrade poor black women. just because the costume’s creator might’ve been an insensitive, ignorant asshole, who didn’t realize the implications of the costume, does not mean that hir actions don’t have real social consequences. a “fat stripper”, and black, too, can only be considered “absurd” in a universe where fat, black women are considered “absurd”…and if YOU think they are, then I’m sorry to inform you, you are a bigot.

]]> By: Lex http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135645 Lex Sun, 01 Nov 2009 06:48:13 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135645 Not having sex is more 'perverted' than objectifying or exploiting someone? Somehow I don't think so. Not having sex is more ‘perverted’ than objectifying or exploiting someone? Somehow I don’t think so.

]]> By: Lex http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135564 Lex Sun, 01 Nov 2009 02:08:04 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135564 @Jillian. What? I don't even live in the US. Regardless, the structures in place which allow industries like the one we're talking about only occur in a specific setting - one that is exploitive and objectifying, one that sees someone's sexuality as irrelevant for another, one in which it is seen as acceptable to trade humans for other humans sexual pleasure. @Jillian. What? I don’t even live in the US. Regardless, the structures in place which allow industries like the one we’re talking about only occur in a specific setting – one that is exploitive and objectifying, one that sees someone’s sexuality as irrelevant for another, one in which it is seen as acceptable to trade humans for other humans sexual pleasure.

]]> By: rachel http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135435 rachel Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:54:40 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135435 what's wrong with us: we're not racist, misogynist assholes. what’s wrong with us: we’re not racist, misogynist assholes.

]]> By: Village Idiot http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135398 Village Idiot Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:01:01 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135398 Perhaps, but going to them is nowhere near as perverted as vows of chastity, or abstinence. Perhaps, but going to them is nowhere near as perverted as vows of chastity, or abstinence.

]]> By: Stuff Rachel Fucking Hates « Heather and Rachel Have Feelings http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135373 Stuff Rachel Fucking Hates « Heather and Rachel Have Feelings Sat, 31 Oct 2009 19:04:34 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135373 [...] and political correctness and Halloween. Okay, so I’m pretty sure that stuff like this is racist/inappropriate/indefensibly wrong, and that dressing up your nine-year-old sister as Zsa [...] [...] and political correctness and Halloween. Okay, so I’m pretty sure that stuff like this is racist/inappropriate/indefensibly wrong, and that dressing up your nine-year-old sister as Zsa [...]

]]> By: Jillian C. York http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/30/halloween-hall-of-shame-fat-lap-dancer-costume/comment-page-1/#comment-135229 Jillian C. York Sat, 31 Oct 2009 14:20:26 +0000 http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/?p=15027#comment-135229 The structure of the industry "in the United States" right? You mean, your narrow view of the way one country does things? The structure of the industry “in the United States” right? You mean, your narrow view of the way one country does things?

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