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		<title>By: Keri</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 21:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a black female and just signed up with OKcupid. My responses on that site are nothing compared to the other sites I&#039;ve tried out. I see that a lot of white men check out my profile but don&#039;t reply as much as I expect. On dating sites such as Blackpeoplemeet, Afroromance(interracial site),singleparentmeet, BBpeoplemeet, craigslist and eHarmanoy. I&#039;ve gotten a much larger response from white men. But I haven&#039;t been on Okcupid for longer then a week so maybe I&#039;m speaking too soon. Compared to the response from the other sites at this time was unexpected. I haven&#039;t completed my profile like I did on other sites so sure that plays a part in it. They should compared the top ten most popular sites for sociologial images. I&#039;m sure there would be a different (probably larger) response percentage with black women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a black female and just signed up with OKcupid. My responses on that site are nothing compared to the other sites I&#8217;ve tried out. I see that a lot of white men check out my profile but don&#8217;t reply as much as I expect. On dating sites such as Blackpeoplemeet, Afroromance(interracial site),singleparentmeet, BBpeoplemeet, craigslist and eHarmanoy. I&#8217;ve gotten a much larger response from white men. But I haven&#8217;t been on Okcupid for longer then a week so maybe I&#8217;m speaking too soon. Compared to the response from the other sites at this time was unexpected. I haven&#8217;t completed my profile like I did on other sites so sure that plays a part in it. They should compared the top ten most popular sites for sociologial images. I&#8217;m sure there would be a different (probably larger) response percentage with black women.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Smith</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-300886</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 06:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, 

I just visited your website and noticed that you don&#039;t have a one-on-one footer chat bar for your users. 

I would like to introduce you to CometChat - a Facebook style floating chat bar. CometChat includes some great features such as video chat and 2-player games. It also integrates seamlessly with your website. 

I can assure you that your users will spend more time on your website once you get CometChat. Do have a look at our website for more information: 

http://www.cometchat.com/?ref=CCS2

Please feel free to e-mail me if you have any queries whatsoever. 

Warm Regards, 

Aaron Smith 
CometChat Sales</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>
<p>I just visited your website and noticed that you don&#8217;t have a one-on-one footer chat bar for your users. </p>
<p>I would like to introduce you to CometChat &#8211; a Facebook style floating chat bar. CometChat includes some great features such as video chat and 2-player games. It also integrates seamlessly with your website. </p>
<p>I can assure you that your users will spend more time on your website once you get CometChat. Do have a look at our website for more information: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.cometchat.com/?ref=CCS2" rel="nofollow">http://www.cometchat.com/?ref=CCS2</a></p>
<p>Please feel free to e-mail me if you have any queries whatsoever. </p>
<p>Warm Regards, </p>
<p>Aaron Smith<br />
CometChat Sales</p>
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		<title>By: So There You Have It: Older Women Want More Sex &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-225807</link>
		<dc:creator>So There You Have It: Older Women Want More Sex &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 16:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from OK Cupid: the racial politics of dating, what women want, and men&#8217;s preference for younger women.  var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;       [...]</description>
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		<title>By: OK Cupid Data on Sex, Desirability, and Age &#187; Sociological Images</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-223110</link>
		<dc:creator>OK Cupid Data on Sex, Desirability, and Age &#187; Sociological Images</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 17:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] from OK Cupid: the racial politics of dating and what women want.  var addthis_language = &#039;en&#039;;       Leave a Comment     Tags: age/aging, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Philip N. Cohen: What Ails Black Women, Part 3: Discrimination and Repercussions &#124; News from: The Huffington Post - Breaking News and Opinion</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-156494</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip N. Cohen: What Ails Black Women, Part 3: Discrimination and Repercussions &#124; News from: The Huffington Post - Breaking News and Opinion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dating world, where the playing field could be more level, Black women get the worst results. We recently saw the reply rates for different groups of women on the OK Cupid dating site. Despite roughly equal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Philip N. Cohen: What Ails Black Women, Part 3: Discrimination and Repercussions : Giant Link List</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip N. Cohen: What Ails Black Women, Part 3: Discrimination and Repercussions : Giant Link List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 18:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dating world, where the playing field could be more level, Black women get the worst results. We recently saw the reply rates for different groups of women on the OK Cupid dating site. Despite roughly equal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: What ails Black women 3: Discrimination and repercussions &#171; Family Inequality</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-149945</link>
		<dc:creator>What ails Black women 3: Discrimination and repercussions &#171; Family Inequality</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] dating world, where the playing field could be more level, Black women get the worst results. We recently saw the reply rates for different groups of women on the OK Cupid dating site. Despite roughly equal [...]</description>
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		<title>By: collegedating</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-140250</link>
		<dc:creator>collegedating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 18:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article,This site provides  very useful tips,online dating is useful to everyone.Thanks for the greatreading,&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.collegedatingwebsite.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; college dating website &lt;/a&gt;.I will pass this on to our Ira clients to read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article,This site provides  very useful tips,online dating is useful to everyone.Thanks for the greatreading,<a href="http://www.collegedatingwebsite.com/" rel="nofollow"> college dating website </a>.I will pass this on to our Ira clients to read.</p>
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		<title>By: karinova</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-135616</link>
		<dc:creator>karinova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Nov 2009 05:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what?
I&#039;m going to assume you&#039;re not trying to distort data that &lt;i&gt;we can all see&lt;/i&gt; on purpose.

First, the average reply rate for the men &lt;i&gt;all together&lt;/i&gt; is 42%-- because the unusually low white male reply rate is included. They calculated it for you right there: without the white guys, the average is 48.1%. I&#039;ll do the rest: that&#039;s 19% less often than the non-white guys. That&#039;s a pretty big difference.

Second, I read the &quot;enjoying the adulation&quot; line as saying white guys are enjoying adulation as &lt;i&gt;compared to the other guys.&lt;/i&gt; Which, hello, they are. They enjoy a 29.2% response rate, while the rate for non-white men is 24.1%. In other words, white guys do 21% better.

Sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what?<br />
I&#8217;m going to assume you&#8217;re not trying to distort data that <i>we can all see</i> on purpose.</p>
<p>First, the average reply rate for the men <i>all together</i> is 42%&#8211; because the unusually low white male reply rate is included. They calculated it for you right there: without the white guys, the average is 48.1%. I&#8217;ll do the rest: that&#8217;s 19% less often than the non-white guys. That&#8217;s a pretty big difference.</p>
<p>Second, I read the &#8220;enjoying the adulation&#8221; line as saying white guys are enjoying adulation as <i>compared to the other guys.</i> Which, hello, they are. They enjoy a 29.2% response rate, while the rate for non-white men is 24.1%. In other words, white guys do 21% better.</p>
<p>Sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: olivia</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134933</link>
		<dc:creator>olivia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If anyone is interested in reading a legit research study on this topic, read this: http://www.asian-nation.org/docs/online-dating-study.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If anyone is interested in reading a legit research study on this topic, read this: <a href="http://www.asian-nation.org/docs/online-dating-study.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.asian-nation.org/docs/online-dating-study.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Daily Digest: 2009-10-29 &#171; The Mushkush Digest</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134733</link>
		<dc:creator>Daily Digest: 2009-10-29 &#171; The Mushkush Digest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 13:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Images (again!) has a fascinating but depressing post on race and dating websites that reinforces evidence about the cultural prejudices about race. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134683</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But black males got more responses from black females than from anyone else.

I don&#039;t think these charts prove it, but I suspect that a lot of people use internet dating as a way to expand their options outside of what they perceive as their peer group.

But also, after I posted last, it occurred to me that age is a huge factor here. Whites are clearly the largest demographic group sampled, and in dating sites they are well distributed across age ranges. In contrast, members of smaller minority groups on dating sites - especially those with a more recent history of emigration - are far more likely to be in the younger age brackets. Would we be surprised to find that people under 40 get more replies than older folks?

The usual problem with isolating race data like this is that it often strands us with our stereotypes while obscuring the variables that actually make a difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But black males got more responses from black females than from anyone else.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think these charts prove it, but I suspect that a lot of people use internet dating as a way to expand their options outside of what they perceive as their peer group.</p>
<p>But also, after I posted last, it occurred to me that age is a huge factor here. Whites are clearly the largest demographic group sampled, and in dating sites they are well distributed across age ranges. In contrast, members of smaller minority groups on dating sites &#8211; especially those with a more recent history of emigration &#8211; are far more likely to be in the younger age brackets. Would we be surprised to find that people under 40 get more replies than older folks?</p>
<p>The usual problem with isolating race data like this is that it often strands us with our stereotypes while obscuring the variables that actually make a difference.</p>
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		<title>By: Louche</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134550</link>
		<dc:creator>Louche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On second thought, I doubt it would be primarily that people there are dissatisfied with their own culture since this same-race discrepancy is not nearly as pronounced, where it even appears, for races other than black.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On second thought, I doubt it would be primarily that people there are dissatisfied with their own culture since this same-race discrepancy is not nearly as pronounced, where it even appears, for races other than black.</p>
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		<title>By: Louche</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134536</link>
		<dc:creator>Louche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the interpretations of these charts are very simplistic and isolated. There are so many factors you fail to take into account. For example, the fact that it is more acceptable in our culture for men to make first contact with women than vice versa and the possibility that far more women than men use dating websites (&quot;eHarmony has an uneven Male to Female ratio of 38% to 62%.&quot;). Or the fact that Pacific Islanders may be highly fetishized (just think of the sex slave trade). And some things I cannot explain, such as the high response rate to Middle Easterner females, who I would expect to face a lot of discrimination from people in the West.

Did anyone else notice the bizarrely low levels of same-race response in some cases? The lowest response by black males was to black females, and the lowest response by black females was to black males. Could it be that people who use dating websites are more likely to be dissatisfied with people of their own culture or race? White females received lowest number of responses from white males. And of course white men are going to respond less if they&#039;re getting more hits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the interpretations of these charts are very simplistic and isolated. There are so many factors you fail to take into account. For example, the fact that it is more acceptable in our culture for men to make first contact with women than vice versa and the possibility that far more women than men use dating websites (&#8220;eHarmony has an uneven Male to Female ratio of 38% to 62%.&#8221;). Or the fact that Pacific Islanders may be highly fetishized (just think of the sex slave trade). And some things I cannot explain, such as the high response rate to Middle Easterner females, who I would expect to face a lot of discrimination from people in the West.</p>
<p>Did anyone else notice the bizarrely low levels of same-race response in some cases? The lowest response by black males was to black females, and the lowest response by black females was to black males. Could it be that people who use dating websites are more likely to be dissatisfied with people of their own culture or race? White females received lowest number of responses from white males. And of course white men are going to respond less if they&#8217;re getting more hits.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2009/10/28/race-response-and-dating-websites/comment-page-1/#comment-134444</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 02:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;To sum, white men appear to have the most dating capital in the online dating world, while black women seem to have the least. &quot;

Um...according to what? Not that they really prove anything, but if you&#039;re going by these charts, it would appear that Middle Eastern and Pacific Islander females (49.5% and 46% mean reply rate, respectively) have substantially more &quot;dating capital&quot; than males of any hue (27.6%). And White men (29.2%) have only a slight edge over Native American men (27.8%). You could stand to be a little more observant when you put that Ph.D. next to your name.

It is interesting, though, to see how much these figures DON&#039;T line up with some common stereotypes about ethnic prejudices and conflicts. If you have Hindu/Muslim tensions in mind, for example, you might be surprised that Indians and Middle Easterners aren&#039;t particularly less likely than average to respond to each other.  And if you&#039;re thinking about notions of tribalism among ethnic groups (i.e. the cliches of minority parents urging their young to marry within the culture) you might be surprised at how little impact it seems to make here. I can see this launching an interesting inquiry into whether people might be less race-(or status-)conscious in the privacy of their own internet than when dating among their peers.

In short - thanks for posting these really interesting charts, but maybe try reading the data before assessing it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;To sum, white men appear to have the most dating capital in the online dating world, while black women seem to have the least. &#8221;</p>
<p>Um&#8230;according to what? Not that they really prove anything, but if you&#8217;re going by these charts, it would appear that Middle Eastern and Pacific Islander females (49.5% and 46% mean reply rate, respectively) have substantially more &#8220;dating capital&#8221; than males of any hue (27.6%). And White men (29.2%) have only a slight edge over Native American men (27.8%). You could stand to be a little more observant when you put that Ph.D. next to your name.</p>
<p>It is interesting, though, to see how much these figures DON&#8217;T line up with some common stereotypes about ethnic prejudices and conflicts. If you have Hindu/Muslim tensions in mind, for example, you might be surprised that Indians and Middle Easterners aren&#8217;t particularly less likely than average to respond to each other.  And if you&#8217;re thinking about notions of tribalism among ethnic groups (i.e. the cliches of minority parents urging their young to marry within the culture) you might be surprised at how little impact it seems to make here. I can see this launching an interesting inquiry into whether people might be less race-(or status-)conscious in the privacy of their own internet than when dating among their peers.</p>
<p>In short &#8211; thanks for posting these really interesting charts, but maybe try reading the data before assessing it!</p>
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