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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Men! Dim That &#8216;Face Shine!&#8217;&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Meg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Oct 2009 01:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Which male celebrities these days look like prepubescent boys? Most of the ones I&#039;ve seen look like... men.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Which male celebrities these days look like prepubescent boys? Most of the ones I&#8217;ve seen look like&#8230; men.</p>
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		<title>By: Brandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that there is much more pressure on women to perform daily grooming. Also, the type of grooming is much different since it is usually intended to make women more &quot;attractive&quot; for the male gaze.

However, I don&#039;t think leaving the home without makeup is making a huge statement these days. I work in an office and only one woman there wears makeup everyday. I certainly don&#039;t.

I also attend uni full time, and see just as many women without makeup as with. Both instructors and students.

However, with that being said, it is very rare to see a woman without her hair done, or her clothes impeccable. While I don&#039;t wear makeup I can&#039;t imagine leaving the house without straightening my hair and I am also very conscious of how I look in my clothes..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that there is much more pressure on women to perform daily grooming. Also, the type of grooming is much different since it is usually intended to make women more &#8220;attractive&#8221; for the male gaze.</p>
<p>However, I don&#8217;t think leaving the home without makeup is making a huge statement these days. I work in an office and only one woman there wears makeup everyday. I certainly don&#8217;t.</p>
<p>I also attend uni full time, and see just as many women without makeup as with. Both instructors and students.</p>
<p>However, with that being said, it is very rare to see a woman without her hair done, or her clothes impeccable. While I don&#8217;t wear makeup I can&#8217;t imagine leaving the house without straightening my hair and I am also very conscious of how I look in my clothes..</p>
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		<title>By: thisdesertlife</title>
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		<dc:creator>thisdesertlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was talking about personal preference, which is quite a different thing. Touchy touchy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking about personal preference, which is quite a different thing. Touchy touchy!</p>
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		<title>By: Kafeid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kafeid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting question!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting question!</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
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		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think this post is neglecting that entire obnoxious &quot;metrosexual&quot; trend. Hello, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy?  Makeup/caring about your appearance is for straight women and gay men, and I&#039;d say an enormous amount of advertising lately focuses on getting straight men to spend all that extra money they&#039;ve got thanks to the wage gap on useless products too.

And agreed with all the comments about there being tons of vanity products marketed to men -- they just are trying to capitalize on the necessity to maintain their sense of masculinity, not on the necessity of &#039;being beautiful.&#039;  Men are marginalized + compartmentalized into gender roles through advertising too, just in a very different way than women.

Also, entertained by a lot of the copy there, as pointed out: hammerzied! how manly! and it comes in LARGE and GIANT size, sort of like cars, or maybe penises!

This said, I really wish my $65 Chanel concealer cost 29 cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think this post is neglecting that entire obnoxious &#8220;metrosexual&#8221; trend. Hello, Queer Eye for the Straight Guy?  Makeup/caring about your appearance is for straight women and gay men, and I&#8217;d say an enormous amount of advertising lately focuses on getting straight men to spend all that extra money they&#8217;ve got thanks to the wage gap on useless products too.</p>
<p>And agreed with all the comments about there being tons of vanity products marketed to men &#8212; they just are trying to capitalize on the necessity to maintain their sense of masculinity, not on the necessity of &#8216;being beautiful.&#8217;  Men are marginalized + compartmentalized into gender roles through advertising too, just in a very different way than women.</p>
<p>Also, entertained by a lot of the copy there, as pointed out: hammerzied! how manly! and it comes in LARGE and GIANT size, sort of like cars, or maybe penises!</p>
<p>This said, I really wish my $65 Chanel concealer cost 29 cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Not many guys I know prefer women to wear makeup.&lt;/i&gt;

Not many guys I know known that makeup usually means something along &quot;trying to look like a healthy person&quot; rather than &quot;trying to look like a porn star&quot;. Guys are unable to tell if a woman is wearing natural makeup... which, by the way, involves concealer, foundation and/or powder, blush, a brown/beige/pink eyeshadow, brown eyeliner, brown or transparent mascara and gloss or lipstick in nude or pink colors. All of this after scrubbing and hydrating your face and grooming your eyebrows by tweezing and optionally using an eyebrow pencil, of course.

For what is worth, I usually get out of my home with some concealer under the eyes or people start asking me if I&#039;m ill. At least my skin is even enough that I can skip foundation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not many guys I know prefer women to wear makeup.</i></p>
<p>Not many guys I know known that makeup usually means something along &#8220;trying to look like a healthy person&#8221; rather than &#8220;trying to look like a porn star&#8221;. Guys are unable to tell if a woman is wearing natural makeup&#8230; which, by the way, involves concealer, foundation and/or powder, blush, a brown/beige/pink eyeshadow, brown eyeliner, brown or transparent mascara and gloss or lipstick in nude or pink colors. All of this after scrubbing and hydrating your face and grooming your eyebrows by tweezing and optionally using an eyebrow pencil, of course.</p>
<p>For what is worth, I usually get out of my home with some concealer under the eyes or people start asking me if I&#8217;m ill. At least my skin is even enough that I can skip foundation.</p>
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		<title>By: Uncontrol</title>
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		<dc:creator>Uncontrol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, great idea, let&#039;s counter one gender extreme with another

better yet: let people look however the hell they want. i&#039;ve no interest in looking like a &quot;manly man&quot; and i have a girlfriend and lead a relatively normal life. i&#039;m comfortable in my masculinity and i do not think that physical appearance is all that important in regards to gender identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, great idea, let&#8217;s counter one gender extreme with another</p>
<p>better yet: let people look however the hell they want. i&#8217;ve no interest in looking like a &#8220;manly man&#8221; and i have a girlfriend and lead a relatively normal life. i&#8217;m comfortable in my masculinity and i do not think that physical appearance is all that important in regards to gender identity.</p>
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		<title>By: thisdesertlife</title>
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		<dc:creator>thisdesertlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 12:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, for one, hate this new trend of popular male celebrities not only having no facial hair, but looking like pre-pubescent boys. Embrace your manly facial hair! There are women out there that like it (assuming that&#039;s what you&#039;re into.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, hate this new trend of popular male celebrities not only having no facial hair, but looking like pre-pubescent boys. Embrace your manly facial hair! There are women out there that like it (assuming that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re into.)</p>
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		<title>By: Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 07:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No I agree but don&#039;t women generally wear makeup to please other women? Just as men boast to impress other men? Not many guys I know prefer women to wear makeup. Most women I ask wear it to feel feminine - whether they enjoy that or feel obliged becomes moot. I don&#039;t think it&#039;s so different when men are out-competing each other to feel masculine. Both practices are out to set a pecking order of desirability and worse, they encourage themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No I agree but don&#8217;t women generally wear makeup to please other women? Just as men boast to impress other men? Not many guys I know prefer women to wear makeup. Most women I ask wear it to feel feminine &#8211; whether they enjoy that or feel obliged becomes moot. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s so different when men are out-competing each other to feel masculine. Both practices are out to set a pecking order of desirability and worse, they encourage themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Graves</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graves</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think doubts about body image are roughly analog to performance anxiety? Men seem inclined to the latter but the two might share a common basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think doubts about body image are roughly analog to performance anxiety? Men seem inclined to the latter but the two might share a common basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Elena</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 06:31:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That theory has the disadvantage of being specific to modern Western culture. Two centuries ago Western men applied as much powder and rouge to their faces as women. Men in cultures around the world use body paint as various markers of social status or as artistic expression.

Please do not confuse specifics valid only to your own culture as biological universal imperatives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That theory has the disadvantage of being specific to modern Western culture. Two centuries ago Western men applied as much powder and rouge to their faces as women. Men in cultures around the world use body paint as various markers of social status or as artistic expression.</p>
<p>Please do not confuse specifics valid only to your own culture as biological universal imperatives.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By the way I have a range of natural skin care products for men WWW.himself27.com.au ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way I have a range of natural skin care products for men <a href="http://WWW.himself27.com.au" rel="nofollow">http://WWW.himself27.com.au</a> ;-)</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets face it men have been using skin care products for hundreds of years! just look at the Egyptians, things don&#039;t change much we still use product for the same reasons one of which is the attraction of women..or men.. the other is if they have a specific problem. The point most men miss is the preventative benefits, they tend to be firefighters and attack the issue when its staring them in the face (quite literately)Men are starting to &quot;get it&quot; but education is the key...Cleanse, Exfoliate, Shave and Moisturise that simple!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets face it men have been using skin care products for hundreds of years! just look at the Egyptians, things don&#8217;t change much we still use product for the same reasons one of which is the attraction of women..or men.. the other is if they have a specific problem. The point most men miss is the preventative benefits, they tend to be firefighters and attack the issue when its staring them in the face (quite literately)Men are starting to &#8220;get it&#8221; but education is the key&#8230;Cleanse, Exfoliate, Shave and Moisturise that simple!</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is *so* hot when a guy tells me he&#039;s banged 40 chicks. Wait, no, I mean it&#039;s disgusting.

I think you need to rethink that theory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is *so* hot when a guy tells me he&#8217;s banged 40 chicks. Wait, no, I mean it&#8217;s disgusting.</p>
<p>I think you need to rethink that theory.</p>
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		<title>By: KD</title>
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		<dc:creator>KD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 05:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not nearly the same though. A haircut is a once in a month thing. I&#039;m talking about maintenance every time you leave the house and slipping off to the bathroom every few hours to reapply. For years I&#039;ve watched my husband roll out of bed and neglect shaving for up to three days at a time. No one&#039;s ever said a word. If I go a day without make up, I have to accept that people will judge me because of it, and I&#039;m likely to hear comments like, &quot;You look so washed out,&quot; or &quot;You look tired,&quot; or &quot;You looked so much prettier with make-up on,&quot; or &quot;You would look great if you fixed yourself up.&quot; 

I&#039;m not saying that personal grooming isn&#039;t important for both sexes, but it&#039;s definitely more of a necessity for women. A man that is too well groomed loses masculinity, and if he doesn&#039;t groom at all he&#039;s only more masculine and rugged. It&#039;s the opposite for women.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not nearly the same though. A haircut is a once in a month thing. I&#8217;m talking about maintenance every time you leave the house and slipping off to the bathroom every few hours to reapply. For years I&#8217;ve watched my husband roll out of bed and neglect shaving for up to three days at a time. No one&#8217;s ever said a word. If I go a day without make up, I have to accept that people will judge me because of it, and I&#8217;m likely to hear comments like, &#8220;You look so washed out,&#8221; or &#8220;You look tired,&#8221; or &#8220;You looked so much prettier with make-up on,&#8221; or &#8220;You would look great if you fixed yourself up.&#8221; </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying that personal grooming isn&#8217;t important for both sexes, but it&#8217;s definitely more of a necessity for women. A man that is too well groomed loses masculinity, and if he doesn&#8217;t groom at all he&#8217;s only more masculine and rugged. It&#8217;s the opposite for women.</p>
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